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tzdata2009o.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Oct. 19, 2009

Oct. 19, 2009

The file... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009o.tar.gz ...is now available; this reflects the Samoa (commentary only), Paikstan, and Bangladesh changes circulated last week on the time zone mailing list. I plan to send out proposed changes for South America in two days, with tzdata2009p.tar.gz appearing in seven days; some folks may want to wait a week before updating. --ado

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[Fwd: Fwd: Please stop the change to Argentina's summer time.]
by Mariano Absatz - El Baby Oct. 19, 2009

Oct. 19, 2009

Hi, Margarita is not on the tz mailing list and she asked me to forward this to you.... if you want replies to reach her, don't forget to add her address to the Cc: As this paper news (http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1187055 <http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1187055>) that Arnaldo just sent to the list, confirms, there will be no DST change in Argentina this weekend (although the Decree wasn't published in time). I checked Margarita's patch and it seems OK to me (for what I read last year, she works with the Debian people helping them maintain the tzdata package at least in stuff related to Argentina). Regards. -- Mariano Absatz - "El Baby" baby(a)baby.com.ar www.clueless.com.ar ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Margarita Manterola <margamanterola(a)gmail.com> Date: Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 10:30 AM Subject: Please stop the change to Argentina's summer time. To: tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov It looks like it's almost certain that no change will take place on Sunday: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1186963&pid=7542694&toi=6275 "El Gobierno suspende el cambio de hora" -> Government postpones the time change. http://www.boletinsantafesino.com.ar/noticia.php?subaction=showfull&id=1255… "El domingo no cambiará la hora oficial, el gobierno nacional dio marcha atrás" -> the time won't change on Sunday, national government has changed its mind. And several others like that. I'm really sorry for living in such a stupid country that can't take decisions like these with more than 2 days of anticipation. The worse thing is that the news say that they might finally decide to implement it later on, and I'm sure it'll be done with the same amount of time of anticipation :(. I'm attaching a patch to fix it for now, until they decide to tell us when the time will change, if it changes. -- Besos, Marga -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- - Theory is when you know something but it doesn't work. - Practice is when something works but you don't know why. - Usually we combine theory and practice: Nothing works and we don't know why. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org

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New initiative for DST in Juarez, Chihuahua (Mexico)
by Alexander Krivenyshev Oct. 19, 2009

Oct. 19, 2009

There is a new initiative or intention to redeem the proposal ("frozen" in the previous legislature) to approve the new DST schedule in the municipality of Juarez, Chihuahua state (Mexico): (Spanish) http://www.diario.com.mx/nota.php?notaid=26d0da68d4e7efd3e7c7f4fed0b6c466 (Spanish) A eso se le añadiría “en el caso del municipio de Juárez, en el estado de Chihuahua, esta aplicación surtirá efecto desde las dos horas del segundo domingo de marzo y concluirá a las dos horas del primer domingo de noviembre”. or (English) http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_mexico05.html …would add "in the municipality of Juarez, Chihuahua State, the DST application shall take from two hours the second Sunday in March and end at two hours the first Sunday in November." DST starts in El Paso, USA (second Sunday in March) 3 weeks before DST starts in Juarez, Mexico (First Sunday in April). DST ends in El Paso, USA (first Sunday in November) 1 week after DST ends in Juarez, Mexico (Last Sunday in October). 4 weeks of DST mismatch in USA and Mexico (3 weeks in spring and 1 week in autumn) is affecting communities on both sides of the border. -------------------- Alexander Krivenyshev (World Time Zone) http://www.worldtimezone.com

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Regarding Argentina/San_Luis
by Mariano Absatz - El Baby Oct. 18, 2009

Oct. 18, 2009

Hi, this one I missed... Besides today's breaking news about Argentina not changing to DST this summer, the Province of San Luis is a case in itself. The Law at http://www.diputadossanluis.gov.ar/diputadosasp/paginas/verNorma.asp?NormaI… is ambiguous because establishes a calendar from the 2nd Sunday in October at 0:00 thru the 2nd Saturday in March at 24:00 and the complement of that starting on the 2nd Sunday of March at 0:00 and ending on the 2nd Saturday of March at 24:00. This clearly breaks every time the 1st of March or October is a Sunday. IMHO, the "spirit of the Law" is to make the changes at 0:00 on the 2nd Sunday of October and March. The problem is that the changes in the rest of the Provinces that did change in 2007/2008, were made according to the Federal Law and Decrees that did so on the 3rd Sunday of October and March. In fact, San Luis actually switched from UTC-4 to UTC-3 last Sunday (October 11th) at 0:00. So I guess a new set of rules, besides "Arg", must be made and the last America/Argentina/San_Luis entries should change to use these... I'm enclosing a patch that does what I say... regretfully, the San Luis timezone must be called "WART/WARST" even when most of the time (like, right now) WARST == ART... that is, since last Sunday, all the country is using UTC-3, but in my patch, San Luis calls it "WARST" and the rest of the country calls it "ART". The patch includes the previous patch from Margarita. Of course, there is no indication that any time soon, the Federal Government says anything about what will happen next year... probably they will decide by mid-October 2010 :-( Regards. -- Mariano Absatz - "El Baby" baby(a)baby.com.ar www.clueless.com.ar -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Justify my text? I'm sorry but it has no excuse. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org

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Argentina 2009-2010: No DST officialy
by Full Inet Oct. 18, 2009

Oct. 18, 2009

As announced in http://www.argentina.gob.ar/argentina/portal/paginas.dhtml?pagina=356 (an official .gob.ar) under title: "Sin Cambio de Hora" (english: "No hour change") "Por el momento, el Gobierno Nacional resolvió no modificar la hora oficial, decisión que estaba en estudio para su implementación el domingo 18 de octubre. Desde el Ministerio de Planificación se anunció que la Argentina hoy, en estas condiciones meteorológicas, no necesita la modificación del huso horario, ya que 2009 nos encuentra con crecimiento en la producción y distribución energética." So, the database should be updated.

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Talks about DST in Nepal
by Steffen Thorsen Oct. 16, 2009

Oct. 16, 2009

According to the Nepali Times, there has been a discussion about observing DST in Nepal: "Daylight saving time (DST) has been discussed before in the Nepal Electricity Authority and the Ministry of Environment, but plans have since gathered dust. If enacted, DST would delay sunset and sunrise by 1 hour and 15 minutes, reducing light use during evening peak hours" Also from the article, it seems that the 15 minute difference to India is not that popular, although having DST will not exactly make it easier (1.5 hour difference to India): http://www.nepalitimes.com/issue/2009/10/16/Nation/16397 Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com

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No "Summer Time" for Argentina 2009-2010
by Alexander Krivenyshev Oct. 16, 2009

Oct. 16, 2009

Seems that Argentina will not implement "Summer Time" this year (2009-2010). Just some media reports, however no official info from any gov.ar site available at this point. (Spanish): "El Gobierno no cambiaría la hora oficial el próximo domingo" http://www.infobae.com/contenidos/478091-101275-0-El-Gobierno-no-cambiar%C3… la-hora-el-pr%C3%B3ximo-domingo "The Government would not change the official time on Sunday" or (Spanish): "AL FINAL NO HABRA CAMBIO DE HORA" http://www.diarioshow.com/notas/2009/10/15/20067-al-final-no-habra-cambio-d… hora.html THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE AT THE END OF TIME") or http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_argentina07.html Alexander Krivenyshev (World Time Zone) http://www.worldtimezone.com

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Please stop the change to Argentina's summer time.
by Margarita Manterola Oct. 16, 2009

Oct. 16, 2009

It looks like it's almost certain that no change will take place on Sunday: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1186963&pid=7542694&toi=6275 "El Gobierno suspende el cambio de hora" -> Government postpones the time change. http://www.boletinsantafesino.com.ar/noticia.php?subaction=showfull&id=1255… "El domingo no cambiará la hora oficial, el gobierno nacional dio marcha atrás" -> the time won't change on Sunday, national government has changed its mind. And several others like that. I'm really sorry for living in such a stupid country that can't take decisions like these with more than 2 days of anticipation. The worse thing is that the news say that they might finally decide to implement it later on, and I'm sure it'll be done with the same amount of time of anticipation :(. I'm attaching a patch to fix it for now, until they decide to tell us when the time will change, if it changes. -- Besos, Marga

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Samoa DST postponed to 2010
by Steffen Thorsen Oct. 16, 2009

Oct. 16, 2009

We have been in contact with the government of Samoa again, and received the following info: "Cabinet has now approved Daylight Saving to be effected next year commencing from the last Sunday of September 2010 and conclude first Sunday of April 2011." Background info: http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/samoa-dst-plan-2009.html Samoa's Daylight Saving Time Act 2009 is available here, but does not contain any dates: http://www.parliament.gov.ws/documents/acts/Daylight%20Saving%20Act%20%2020… Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com

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growing opposition to DST in many Argentine Provinces
by Alexander Krivenyshev Oct. 15, 2009

Oct. 15, 2009

We have to anticipate some last moment changes in DST rules for Argentine Provinces again. >From various news- there is a growing opposition to the Daylight Saving Time on October 18 in many Argentine Provinces: Cordoba, Entre Rios, Tucuman, Santiago del Estero, Santa Fe ... (Spanish) http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1180908 Crece la oposición al cambio de hora Además de las quejas de comerciantes bonaerenses y porteños, cinco provincias ya adelantaron que no adherirán a la medida (English) Growing opposition to the change of time In addition to complaints of merchants of Buenos Aires and Buenos Aires, five provinces and advanced that they do not adhere DST. http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_argentina07.html province Cordoba: Cordova examines whether adheres to the time change http://www.fmazul.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4218&Itemid… Córdoba analiza si adhiere al cambio horario province Entre Rios: There is resistance to change time zone in Entre Rios http://www.eldiariodeparana.com.ar/textocomp.asp?id=179076 Hay resistencia al cambio de huso horario en Entre Ríos province Tucuman: Some provinces do not want another time http://www.losandes.com.ar/notas/2009/10/1/sociedad-449004.asp Algunas provincias no quieren otro huso ".... in Tucumán, the governor surprised everyone by stating that it will consider in coming days whether or not the province adheres to the time change plan" province Santiago del Estero: The time change does not benefit anything http://www.nuevodiarioweb.com.ar/VerNota.aspx? id=142267&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 “El cambio de hora no beneficia en nada” province Santa Fe: Santa Fe will join the discussion if time change http://www.rafaela.com/portal/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=18576 Santa Fe debate si se sumará al cambio de horario Minister of Water, Utilities and Environment of the province Santa Fe said that "we are trying to unify positions with other provinces and we have not set our own ..." --------------------- See current Time Zones map for Argentina: http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-argentina24.php Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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