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proposed time zone package changes (Samoa, Factory, et al.)
by Arthur David Olson 28 Aug '19

28 Aug '19

Below find proposed time zone package changes; the executive summary: * Makefile Change LOCALTIME default from "Factory" to "GMT"; do not compile "factory" file (but keep it in the distribution). * Theory Remove reference to "Factory" zone. * australasia Change end of DST in Samoa in 2011 from 2011-04-03 0:00 to 2011-04-03 1:00 (thanks to Raymond Hughes for a reference). * localtime.c Initialize ttinfo structures filled by tzparse (thanks to Ravindra for reporting a valgrind warning). * zic.c Fix generation of POSIX strings for zones with rules using "weekday<=n" forms of dates (thanks to Lei Liu for finding the problem). Also, limit output for non-POSIX-specificable zones defined to follow the same rules every year. (Note that no zones of either of the above types appear in the distribution; these changes cater to add-on zones). If no problems are found, 2010n will appear on 2010-10-25. --ado diff -r -c old/Makefile new/Makefile *** old/Makefile Mon Sep 27 09:24:25 2010 --- new/Makefile Tue Oct 12 12:36:50 2010 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)Makefile 8.8 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)Makefile 8.9 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 12,18 **** # make zonenames # to get a list of the values you can use for LOCALTIME. ! LOCALTIME= Factory # If you want something other than Eastern United States time as a template # for handling POSIX-style time zone environment variables, --- 12,18 ---- # make zonenames # to get a list of the values you can use for LOCALTIME. ! LOCALTIME= GMT # If you want something other than Eastern United States time as a template # for handling POSIX-style time zone environment variables, *************** *** 262,269 **** DOCS= README Theory $(MANS) date.1 Makefile PRIMARY_YDATA= africa antarctica asia australasia \ europe northamerica southamerica ! YDATA= $(PRIMARY_YDATA) pacificnew etcetera factory backward ! NDATA= systemv SDATA= solar87 solar88 solar89 TDATA= $(YDATA) $(NDATA) $(SDATA) TABDATA= iso3166.tab zone.tab --- 262,269 ---- DOCS= README Theory $(MANS) date.1 Makefile PRIMARY_YDATA= africa antarctica asia australasia \ europe northamerica southamerica ! YDATA= $(PRIMARY_YDATA) pacificnew etcetera backward ! NDATA= systemv factory SDATA= solar87 solar88 solar89 TDATA= $(YDATA) $(NDATA) $(SDATA) TABDATA= iso3166.tab zone.tab diff -r -c old/Theory new/Theory *** old/Theory Mon Sep 27 09:24:25 2010 --- new/Theory Tue Oct 12 12:36:50 2010 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! @(#)Theory 8.4 This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,4 ---- ! @(#)Theory 8.5 This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 287,294 **** See the file `backward' for most of these older names (e.g. `US/Eastern' instead of `America/New_York'). The other old-fashioned names still supported are ! `WET', `CET', `MET', `EET' (see the file `europe'), ! and `Factory' (see the file `factory'). ----- Time zone abbreviations ----- --- 287,293 ---- See the file `backward' for most of these older names (e.g. `US/Eastern' instead of `America/New_York'). The other old-fashioned names still supported are ! `WET', `CET', `MET', and `EET' (see the file `europe'). ----- Time zone abbreviations ----- diff -r -c old/australasia new/australasia *** old/australasia Mon Sep 27 09:24:27 2010 --- new/australasia Tue Oct 12 13:14:56 2010 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)australasia 8.18 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)australasia 8.19 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 487,497 **** # http://www.parliament.gov.ws/documents/acts/Daylight%20Saving%20Act%20%2020… # </a> Zone Pacific/Apia 12:33:04 - LMT 1879 Jul 5 -11:26:56 - LMT 1911 -11:30 - SAMT 1950 # Samoa Time -11:00 - WST 2010 Sep 26 ! -11:00 1:00 WSDT 2011 Apr 3 -11:00 - WST # Solomon Is --- 487,507 ---- # http://www.parliament.gov.ws/documents/acts/Daylight%20Saving%20Act%20%2020… # </a> + # From Raymond Hughes (2010-10-07): + # Please see + # <a href="http://www.mcil.gov.ws"> + # http://www.mcil.gov.ws + # </a>, + # the Ministry of Commerce, Industry and Labour (sideframe) "Last Sunday + # September 2010 (26/09/10) - adjust clocks forward from 12:00 midnight + # to 01:00am and First Sunday April 2011 (03/04/11) - adjust clocks + # backwards from 1:00am to 12:00am" + Zone Pacific/Apia 12:33:04 - LMT 1879 Jul 5 -11:26:56 - LMT 1911 -11:30 - SAMT 1950 # Samoa Time -11:00 - WST 2010 Sep 26 ! -11:00 1:00 WSDT 2011 Apr 3 1:00 -11:00 - WST # Solomon Is diff -r -c old/localtime.c new/localtime.c *** old/localtime.c Mon Sep 27 09:24:26 2010 --- new/localtime.c Tue Oct 12 12:36:51 2010 *************** *** 5,11 **** #ifndef lint #ifndef NOID ! static char elsieid[] = "@(#)localtime.c 8.14"; #endif /* !defined NOID */ #endif /* !defined lint */ --- 5,11 ---- #ifndef lint #ifndef NOID ! static char elsieid[] = "@(#)localtime.c 8.15"; #endif /* !defined NOID */ #endif /* !defined lint */ *************** *** 914,919 **** --- 914,920 ---- register unsigned char * typep; register char * cp; register int load_result; + static struct ttinfo zttinfo; INITIALIZE(dstname); stdname = name; *************** *** 986,991 **** --- 987,993 ---- /* ** Two transitions per year, from EPOCH_YEAR forward. */ + sp->ttis[0] = sp->ttis[1] = zttinfo; sp->ttis[0].tt_gmtoff = -dstoffset; sp->ttis[0].tt_isdst = 1; sp->ttis[0].tt_abbrind = stdlen + 1; *************** *** 1099,1106 **** } /* ** Finally, fill in ttis. - ** ttisstd and ttisgmt need not be handled. */ sp->ttis[0].tt_gmtoff = -stdoffset; sp->ttis[0].tt_isdst = FALSE; sp->ttis[0].tt_abbrind = 0; --- 1101,1108 ---- } /* ** Finally, fill in ttis. */ + sp->ttis[0] = sp->ttis[1] = zttinfo; sp->ttis[0].tt_gmtoff = -stdoffset; sp->ttis[0].tt_isdst = FALSE; sp->ttis[0].tt_abbrind = 0; *************** *** 1113,1118 **** --- 1115,1121 ---- dstlen = 0; sp->typecnt = 1; /* only standard time */ sp->timecnt = 0; + sp->ttis[0] = zttinfo; sp->ttis[0].tt_gmtoff = -stdoffset; sp->ttis[0].tt_isdst = 0; sp->ttis[0].tt_abbrind = 0; diff -r -c old/zic.c new/zic.c *** old/zic.c Mon Sep 27 09:24:26 2010 --- new/zic.c Tue Oct 12 13:37:29 2010 *************** *** 3,9 **** ** 2006-07-17 by Arthur David Olson. */ ! static char elsieid[] = "@(#)zic.c 8.22"; #include "private.h" #include "locale.h" --- 3,9 ---- ** 2006-07-17 by Arthur David Olson. */ ! static char elsieid[] = "@(#)zic.c 8.24"; #include "private.h" #include "locale.h" *************** *** 1881,1896 **** register int week; if (rp->r_dycode == DC_DOWGEQ) { ! week = 1 + rp->r_dayofmonth / DAYSPERWEEK; ! if ((week - 1) * DAYSPERWEEK + 1 != rp->r_dayofmonth) return -1; } else if (rp->r_dycode == DC_DOWLEQ) { if (rp->r_dayofmonth == len_months[1][rp->r_month]) week = 5; else { ! week = 1 + rp->r_dayofmonth / DAYSPERWEEK; ! if (week * DAYSPERWEEK - 1 != rp->r_dayofmonth) return -1; } } else return -1; /* "cannot happen" */ (void) sprintf(result, "M%d.%d.%d", --- 1881,1896 ---- register int week; if (rp->r_dycode == DC_DOWGEQ) { ! if ((rp->r_dayofmonth % DAYSPERWEEK) != 1) return -1; + week = 1 + rp->r_dayofmonth / DAYSPERWEEK; } else if (rp->r_dycode == DC_DOWLEQ) { if (rp->r_dayofmonth == len_months[1][rp->r_month]) week = 5; else { ! if ((rp->r_dayofmonth % DAYSPERWEEK) != 0) return -1; + week = rp->r_dayofmonth / DAYSPERWEEK; } } else return -1; /* "cannot happen" */ (void) sprintf(result, "M%d.%d.%d", *************** *** 2018,2023 **** --- 2018,2024 ---- register char * envvar; register int max_abbr_len; register int max_envvar_len; + register int prodstic; /* all rules are min to max */ max_abbr_len = 2 + max_format_len + max_abbrvar_len; max_envvar_len = 2 * max_abbr_len + 5 * 9; *************** *** 2032,2037 **** --- 2033,2039 ---- timecnt = 0; typecnt = 0; charcnt = 0; + prodstic = zonecount == 1; /* ** Thanks to Earl Chew ** for noting the need to unconditionally initialize startttisstd. *************** *** 2053,2058 **** --- 2055,2062 ---- updateminmax(rp->r_loyear); if (rp->r_hiwasnum) updateminmax(rp->r_hiyear); + if (rp->r_lowasnum || rp->r_hiwasnum) + prodstic = FALSE; } } /* *************** *** 2075,2080 **** --- 2079,2094 ---- if (max_year <= INT_MAX - YEARSPERREPEAT) max_year += YEARSPERREPEAT; else max_year = INT_MAX; + /* + ** Regardless of any of the above, + ** for a "proDSTic" zone which specifies that its rules + ** always have and always will be in effect, + ** we only need one cycle to define the zone. + */ + if (prodstic) { + min_year = 1900; + max_year = min_year + YEARSPERREPEAT; + } } /* ** For the benefit of older systems,

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proposed tz change for Latvia, Lithuania
by Paul Eggert 25 May '15

25 May '15

It's March Madness time for daylight-saving rule changes. Here's a proposed change to the tz database to keep up with the latest political development, which affects time stamps starting March 29: * Latvia and Lithuania will not observe DST, starting this year. Thanks to Andrei Ivanov for this info. =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/europe,v retrieving revision 2000.3 retrieving revision 2000.3.0.1 diff -pu -r2000.3 -r2000.3.0.1 --- europe 2000/03/04 15:31:08 2000.3 +++ europe 2000/03/08 17:48:59 2000.3.0.1 @@ -1135,6 +1135,12 @@ Link Europe/Rome Europe/San_Marino # 1997-01-21 on transition to Summer time ... established the same order of # daylight savings time settings as in the States of the European Union. +# From Andrei Ivanov (2000-03-06): +# This year Latvia will not switch to Daylight Savings Time (as specified in +# <a href="http://www.lv-laiks.lv/wwwraksti/2000/071072/vd4.htm"> +# The Regulations of the Cabinet of Ministers of the Rep. of Latvia of +# 29-Feb-2000 (#79)</a>, in Latvian for subscribers only). + # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Latvia 1989 1996 - Mar lastSun 2:00s 1:00 S Rule Latvia 1989 1996 - Sep lastSun 2:00s 0 - @@ -1151,7 +1157,8 @@ Zone Europe/Riga 1:36:24 - LMT 1880 3:00 Russia MSK/MSD 1989 Mar lastSun 2:00s 2:00 1:00 EEST 1989 Sep lastSun 2:00s 2:00 Latvia EE%sT 1997 Jan 21 - 2:00 EU EE%sT + 2:00 EU EE%sT 2000 Feb 29 + 2:00 - EET # Liechtenstein # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] @@ -1178,6 +1185,11 @@ Zone Europe/Vaduz 0:38:04 - LMT 1894 Jun # motion to give up shifting to summer time in spring, as it was # already done by Estonia. +# From Andrei Ivanov (2000-03-06): +# I've heard that Ministers of three Baltic countries on their summit +# somewhere in February decided not to switch to summer time starting from +# this spring. + # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Europe/Vilnius 1:41:16 - LMT 1880 1:24:00 - WMT 1917 # Warsaw Mean Time @@ -1192,7 +1204,8 @@ Zone Europe/Vilnius 1:41:16 - LMT 1880 2:00 C-Eur EE%sT 1998 2:00 - EET 1998 Mar 29 1:00u 1:00 EU CE%sT 1999 Oct 31 1:00u - 2:00 EU EE%sT + 2:00 EU EE%sT 2000 Feb + 2:00 - EET # Luxembourg # Whitman disagrees with most of these dates in minor ways; go with Shanks.

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Adding Asia/Beijing timezone into the database
by Daoming Qiu 06 Dec '14

06 Dec '14

"Beijing Time" is the standard time used for China region, so it is very strange that tzdatabase doesn't have timezone called Asia/Beijing. Strongly suggest to add "Asia/Beijing" zone into the database, and its information is very similar with "Asia/Shanghai".

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a patch for zic.c to allow 'follow rules'
by Alois Treindl 10 Sep '13

10 Sep '13

Dear Arthur, I have been preparing a small modification for zic.c which will allow it to understand a 'follow rule' in zone files, like this: # experimental table for Geneva, to test the 'follow' mechanism Zone Europe/Geneva 0:24:37 - LMT 1848 Sep 12 0:24:37 - GET 1894 Jun # Geneva MTime 0 follow Europe/Zurich For test purposes, one can simply insert this zone in the europe file. The feature is helpful in the extension of tzdata to cover complete timezone history. For this purpose, about 1000 additional zone files need to be written, and to be maintained. The process to do so has started in the astrological community, as it needs a complete pre-1970 timezone history. I will not bother you with details. I intend to help creating and maintaining a set of files like 'europe_hist', 'asia_hist' etc which contain the additional zones. The 'follow rule' will allow to keep these extra zone files very small, as usually the additional zones will all have a cross-over moment into a regular tzdata zone. I have for the moment called the modified zic source file zicx.c and prepared a patch file for zic.c to implement the 'follow rule' feature. I have tried to keep the modification very small. Please have a look at the patch, and check for the errors I have probably made. Description of the code: ------------------------ The follow rule must be the last line in a zone, and recursion is not allowed. It is parsed in inzsub() which reacts on GMTOFF = 0 and the word 'follow' in the RULE field. The zone line is stored in zones[] with a special value z_gmtoff = FOLLOW_MARK and the zone_name to follow in field z_rule (which is abused for this purpose). Before the call to outzone() the two sets of zone lines are patched together in a temporary array, so that outzone() and all functions deeper down() need not be modified. Patch ----- --- zic.c 2011-03-09 20:41:27.000000000 +0100 +++ zicx.c 2011-08-25 16:09:04.000000000 +0200 @@ -262,6 +262,17 @@ static int typecnt; #define YR_MAXIMUM 1 #define YR_ONLY 2 +/* +** follow rules, added by Alois Treindl August 2011 +** Zones may end with a line: 0 follow zone_name +** which the parser will represent with FOLLOW_MARK in z_gmtoff, +** and the zone name in z_rule. +** Before the call to outzone() the zone and its follow zone will be +** patched together, so that outzone() sees a regular zone array. +** To keep zone files readable, follow rules cannot be used recursively. +*/ +#define FOLLOW_MARK 999999 + static struct rule * rules; static int nrules; /* number of rules */ @@ -589,7 +600,48 @@ _("%s: More than one -L option specified */ for (j = i + 1; j < nzones && zones[j].z_name == NULL; ++j) continue; - outzone(&zones[i], j - i); + if (zones[j -1].z_gmtoff == FOLLOW_MARK) { + /* copy zone and follow zone into one new array */ + int k,n,m, nrows; + struct zone *xzones, *zp; + nrows = j - i - 1; + zp = &zones[j - 1]; /* line with the follow rule */ + xzones = (struct zone *) (void *) emalloc((int) (nrows * sizeof *xzones)); + for (k = 0; k < nrows; k++) + xzones[k] = zones[i + k]; + /* now find the follow zone in array zones[] */ + for (m = 0; m < nzones; m++) { + if (zones[m].z_name != NULL && strcmp(zp->z_rule, zones[m].z_name) == 0) break; + } + if (m == nzones) { /* error, follow zone not found */ + char *cp; + cp = emalloc(80 + strlen(zp->z_rule) + strlen(zones[i].z_name));; + sprintf(cp, "For zone %s follow zone %s not found, no zonefile created.", zones[i].z_name, zp->z_rule); + eat(zp->z_filename, zp->z_linenum); + error(cp); + ifree(cp); + ifree((void *)xzones); + } + /* now find the next date in the follow zone */ + for (n = m + 1; n < nzones; n++) { + if (zp->z_untiltime < zones[n].z_untiltime) break; + } + /* missing errorcode for case n == nzones, + * assume we are still in same follow zone. + * The follow zone part we need starts at zones[n]. + * Now find where follow zone ends, will be m. + */ + for (m = n; m < nzones && zones[m].z_name == NULL; ++m) + continue; + xzones = (struct zone *) (void *) erealloc((char *) xzones, (int) ((nrows + m - n) * sizeof *xzones)); + for (k = 0; k < m - n; k++) + xzones[nrows + k] = zones[n + k]; + nrows += m - n; + outzone(&xzones[0], nrows); + ifree((void *) xzones); + } else { + outzone(&zones[i], j - i); + } } /* ** Make links. @@ -784,7 +836,7 @@ associate(void) } for (i = 0; i < nzones; ++i) { zp = &zones[i]; - if (zp->z_nrules == 0) { + if (zp->z_nrules == 0 && zp->z_gmtoff != FOLLOW_MARK) { /* ** Maybe we have a local standard time offset. */ @@ -1079,11 +1131,23 @@ const int iscont; return FALSE; } } - z.z_rule = ecpyalloc(fields[i_rule]); - z.z_format = ecpyalloc(fields[i_format]); - if (max_format_len < strlen(z.z_format)) - max_format_len = strlen(z.z_format); - hasuntil = nfields > i_untilyear; + /* check for 0 follow zonename + ** zonename must contain at least one /, and follow must be + * 'follow' or an abbreviation thereof. + */ + if (z.z_gmtoff == 0 && strchr(fields[i_format], '/') != NULL + && itsabbr(fields[i_rule], "follow")) { + z.z_gmtoff = FOLLOW_MARK; + z.z_rule = ecpyalloc(fields[i_format]); + z.z_format = ""; + hasuntil = FALSE; /* no continue of zone now */ + } else { + z.z_rule = ecpyalloc(fields[i_rule]); + z.z_format = ecpyalloc(fields[i_format]); + if (max_format_len < strlen(z.z_format)) + max_format_len = strlen(z.z_format); + hasuntil = nfields > i_untilyear; + } if (hasuntil) { z.z_untilrule.r_filename = filename; z.z_untilrule.r_linenum = linenum;

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Fiji DST for 2012-2013 announced
by Steffen Thorsen 06 Sep '12

06 Sep '12

According the the Fiji Government Online Portal, "The Minister for Labour, Industrial Relations and Employment Mr Jone Usamate today confirmed that Fiji will start daylight savings at 2 am on Sunday 21st October 2012 and end at 3 am on Sunday 20th January 2013." http://www.fiji.gov.fj/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6702:da… Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com

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Typo in 2012e Theory file
by Jonathan Leffler 31 Aug '12

31 Aug '12

There is a typo 'simplifes' for 'simplifies' in the Theory file in the 2012e release. -- Jonathan Leffler <jonathan.leffler(a)gmail.com> #include <disclaimer.h> Guardian of DBD::Informix - v2011.0612 - http://dbi.perl.org "Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves, for we shall never cease to be amused."

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[PATCH 0/1] Add Asia/Beijing
by James M Leddy 19 Aug '12

19 Aug '12

I know this is a controversial topic, but I've been asked to submit this, and have decided to do so for a few reasons: * We'll stop getting questions of why Beijing Time is not included. * People that want to ship their own modified version of tzdata can take this patch. * The common proposed fix is that we should be using "human presentable" names and have a mapping from these names to the actual timezones. Since that proposal, indeed since the inception of desktop Linux/Unix, no one (as far as I know) has actually done this, leading to continued confusion from users. * I've seen it argued that we have to keep the the database pristine, yet the bar for entry does not actually seem that high. For example, we have a link from the Vatican to Rome, even though it should be pretty obvious that they're the same time zone. And we have a Link for people that can't seem to figure out if Nicosia is in Europe or Asia. * This really does seem to confuse users. "Eastern Time" includes both Washington, D.C. and New York City. The justification is that we never added Washington to the list, so we shouldn't add Beijing. But this is really not a fair comparison. It's called "Beijing Time". I'm sure if ET was called "Washington Time", it would at least give me pause to select New York time, even though I'm a New Yorker. No one gets confused that they have to pick New York, or Madrid instead of Barcelona, so that argument doesn't hold water.

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Fwd: tz code 2012-e: Compilation issues on MacOS X 10.8
by Carlo Dapor 17 Aug '12

17 Aug '12

Hello TZ maintainers Paul Eggert asked asked me to forward the e-Mail below to tz(a)iana.org. Can you incorporate the suggested change, please ? A feedback is most welcome, thanks. Regards, -- Carlo ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Carlo Dapor <catull(a)gmail.com> Date: 5 August 2012 12:35 Subject: tz code 2012-e: Compilation issues on MacOS X 10.8 To: Paul Eggert <eggert(a)cs.ucla.edu> Hello Paul I built the latest tz code on MacOS X 10.8. However, in localtime.c two methods are re-defined void tzsetwall (void) - line 1167 void tzset (void) - line 1190 Not sure this is the correct way, I placed an "#if !defined (__APPLE__) && !defined (__MACH__)" on lines 1167 and 1190. And on lines 1188 and 1233 an "#endif /* ! __APPLE__ && ! __MACH__ */". For completeness, see the two compilation attempts before this change. #1 cc -DTZDIR=\"/usr/local/etc/zoneinfo\" -c -o localtime.o localtime.c localtime.c:1167:1: error: static declaration of 'tzsetwall' follows non-static declaration tzsetwall(void) ^ /usr/include/time.h:150:6: note: previous declaration is here void tzsetwall(void); ^ 1 error generated. gmake: *** [localtime.o] Error 1 #2 cc -DTZDIR=\"/usr/local/etc/zoneinfo\" -c -o localtime.o localtime.c localtime.c:1190:1: error: static declaration of 'tzset' follows non-static declaration tzset(void) ^ /usr/include/time.h:136:6: note: previous declaration is here void tzset(void); ^ 1 error generated. gmake: *** [localtime.o] Error 1 Regards, -- Carlo

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Re: [tz] [PATCH 0/1] Add Asia/Beijing
by Alan Mintz 15 Aug '12

15 Aug '12

At 2012-08-15 09:32, Paul_Koning(a)Dell.com wrote: >That's a perfectly valid wish but it's a UI matter, and it belongs in >systems that have the space for such databases. We could draw an arbitrary line to keep the number small. For example, there are (I think) about 540 existing IDs in the database, including all the links. If you draw that line at population 500,000, there are a little over 1000 cities that qualify, probably meaning (rough guess) the addition of 700-800 links - less than 80KB. I can't imagine that's an issue for any current embedded system, is it? Here's a sampling of the (mostly-not-well-known) cities on the 500K "bubble": Denpasar, Indonesia Lipetsk, Russia Dengta, China Tuxtla Gutiérrez, Mexico Songkhla, Thailand Mariupol, Ukraine Danjiangkou, China Chiclayo, Peru COPENHAGEN, Denmark Penglai, China Oaxaca de Juárez, Mexico Aba, Nigeria Astrakhan, Russia MACAO, China : Macao SAR Eskisehir, Turkey Shishi, China Kannur, India Ananindeua, Brazil Bokaro Steel City, India SAN SALVADOR, El Salvador Kolhapur, India Xinzhou, China Joinville, Brazil Dangyang, China Londrina, Brazil There might be cause to add some others below that line, like capital/commercial capital status, top "n" within a country (depending on area maybe), etc. It could also be completely or partially optional (e.g. 500k+, 100-500k, 50-100k pop files), allowing the specific implementation to choose to include as much or as little as they have room for. Include specific support for a "local" file that can override the stock database, and the implementation and user can do whatever they want. -- Alan Mintz <Alan_Mintz+TZ_IANA(a)Earthlink.net>

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Re: [tz] [PATCH 0/1] Add Asia/Beijing
by Alan Mintz 13 Aug '12

13 Aug '12

At 2012-08-13 12:49, James M Leddy wrote: >...For > example, we have a link from the Vatican to Rome, even though it > should be pretty obvious that they're the same time zone... IIRC, given the history of time and calendars, it makes sense to have a separate time zone for the Vatican, even though it is currently the same :) Cultural enclaves often observe their own rules regarding time zones, as evidenced by several Native American entities in the US (Navajo, Hopi within Navajo, and Metlakatla come to mind). There has always been an issue with having identifiers named by cities only. Some of the US identifiers are not familiar to many people, even when they are within their own state. IMO, a separate table, containing links from at least the commercial capital of each country to its time zone, would seem to be the best solution. Specific support for a local version of the table (that would be preserved across updates) would be good, too. Save changes to the main rule files for real changes in parameters, not synonyms. -- Alan Mintz <Alan_Mintz+TZ_IANA(a)Earthlink.net>

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