September 2023 - tz - lists.iana.org

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by Cool Gab19 05 Sep '24

05 Sep '24

can you add Philippine Daylight Time on your Database I think it was missing from the list of the time zones please reply immediately if solved thanks...

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Re: [tz] Time for a Lunar time zone? -Brooks
by Paul Eggert 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

On 3/2/23 09:51, Brooks Harris wrote: > Will we need DST on the Moon? :-) I hope not! The Moon's axis tilts only 1.5°, much less than the 23.5° of Earth's axis, so seasonal effects on sunlight duration are much less intense on the Moon and there should be less need for Earth-like DST. A more pressing issue is that the length of day (including daytime and nighttime) varies more on the Moon. Local Earth days vary by at most 0.008 hours from the mean of 24 hours (this variation is due to the eccentricity of the Earth orbit and the obliquity of the ecliptic). So people who think that every local Earth day is exactly 24 hours are not far off. Local lunar days, in contrast, are roughly 29.5 ± 0.25 Earth days (again, this includes both lunar daytime and lunar nighttime). That's more slop to deal with, relatively speaking, and dealing with varying-length days could be a bit of a problem for civil time on the Moon. Presumably ESA's boffins are on top of this.....

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Ministry of Digital Development and Communications, the Government of Mongolia
by fr 07 Jan '24

07 Jan '24

Dear Sir/Ma'am, As we sent an inquiry regarding the switching time to the regular summer time matter earlier, could you please provide us some recommendations on below. The Government of Mongolia is planning to switch to the regular summer time from 22-26 March, 2024. Currently, the discussions are made within the Government as well as at the Parliament. We expect that final decision will be made in the October. Therefore, is it possible to arrange the switching process in the next 5 months? Is there any extraordinary cases like us or not? Or shall we make our changes in the September 2024? Thank you for your kind consideration in advance and hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, Ms. Ariuntuul --- Foreign Cooperation Division Ministry of Digital Development and Communications The Government of Mongolia Tel: +976 51 260636 www.mddc.gov.mn

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Did Greenland abolish daylight saving from 2024 on?
by Paul Eggert 20 Nov '23

20 Nov '23

This week several English-language news sources reported that Greenland has moved its clocks forward for the last time. These reports disagree with current TZDB[1], which follows Thomas M. Steenholdt's December email[2] saying that although in November Greenlanders voted to not fall back this fall, they also voted to continue to observe daylight saving time (DST) next year, effectively moving their time zone one hour east instead of abolishing DST. There's no disagreement about timekeeping this year. The first point of disagreement is March 30, 2024 at 23:00, when TZDB says Nuuk, Greenland will spring forward to 24:00, whereas the recent news reports say clocks will neither spring forward nor fall back during 2024. So who's right: Steenholdt in December, or these several recent news reports? Currently TZDB goes with Steenholdt. After all, he cited the relevant Greenland legislation and his email address ends in ".gl". I suppose another possibility, though, is that Greenland's government has changed its mind since November. However, if so I'd like to see citations to the newer legislation. The earliest recent news story I found on this topic was a week ago by Lebawit Lily Girma[3], senior travel news reporter for Bloomberg Pursuits. I'm taking the liberty of bcc'ing Girma to see if she can help get to the bottom of the situation. [1]: https://iana.org/tz [2]: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2022-December/032402.html [3]: Girma LL. Greenland Solves the Daylight Saving Time Debate. Bloomberg. 2023-03-24. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-24/greenland-keeps-daylight… Here are some of the other news reports I found. Greenland to stay in daylight saving time forever. AP. 2023-03-27. https://apnews.com/article/greenland-daylight-saving-summertime-utc-gmt-3b5… Martin M. Greenland is keeping daylight saving time permanently. NPR. 2023-03-28. https://www.wunc.org/2023-03-28/greenland-is-keeping-daylight-saving-time-p… Selcho M. Here’s why Greenland is permanently keeping daylight saving time. Deseret News. 2023-03-28. https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2023/3/28/23660379/why-greenland-keeping-… Jerusalem Post staff. Greenland changed their clocks to daylight savings for the last time. Jerusalem Post. 2023-03-29. https://www.jpost.com/international/article-735751 Carpineti A. Greenland Has Changed Its Clocks For The Last Time, Embracing Daylight Savings Forever. IFLScience. 2023-03-29. https://www.iflscience.com/greenland-has-changed-its-clocks-for-the-last-ti…

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DST in Fiji this year
by Almaz Mingaleev 06 Oct '23

06 Oct '23

In 2022f Fiji's DST was suspended <https://github.com/eggert/tz/blob/861b58589c66b1db6aedbae70961446d86b6f808/…> indefinitely (original post was about 2022-2023 only). Does anyone know what is Fiji's government plan for 2023-2024? Thanks, Almaz

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Notification for daylight saving time in SYRIA
by Radio Frequency Spectrum, SyTPRA 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

Dear Madam/Sir, Please find attached a correspondence from Syrian Administration. Best regards MHD Atef AL Dairy Deputy Director General, SyTPRA The focal point at Syrian Telecommunication & Post Regulatory Authority

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2023c install issue
by Rune Torgersen 18 Sep '23

18 Sep '23

Hi , trying to update tzdata/code on an embedded device. Last install I did was in 2016, so been a while. System is an old linux system (GCC 4.1.2, GLIBC 2.5), with some updates over the years. However I get a zic error on installing the zone files: ./zic: Can't link /usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Abidjan to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Accra: Invalid argument Complete output: make CFLAGS='-std=gnu99' TZDIR=/usr/share/zoneinfo install VERSION=`cat version` && sed \ -e 's|#!/bin/bash|#!/bin/bash|g' \ -e 's|AWK=[^}]*|AWK='\''awk'\''|g' \ -e 's|$PKGVERSION$=.*|\1='\''(tzcode) '\''|' \ -e 's|$REPORT_BUGS_TO$=.*|\1=tz(a)iana.org|' \ -e 's|TZDIR=[^}]*|TZDIR=/usr/share/zoneinfo|' \ -e 's|$TZVERSION$=.*|\1='"$VERSION"'|' \ <tzselect.ksh >tzselect.out chmod +x tzselect.out mv tzselect.out tzselect VERSION=`cat version` && printf '%s\n' \ 'static char const PKGVERSION[]="(tzcode) ";' \ "static char const TZVERSION[]=\"$VERSION\";" \ 'static char const REPORT_BUGS_TO[]=tz(a)iana.org<mailto:tz@iana.org>;' \ >version.h.out mv version.h.out version.h cc -DTZDIR='"/usr/share/zoneinfo"' -std=gnu99 -c -o zic.o zic.c cc -DTZDIR='"/usr/share/zoneinfo"' -o zic -std=gnu99 zic.o cc -DTZDIR='"/usr/share/zoneinfo"' -std=gnu99 -c -o zdump.o zdump.c cc -DTZDIR='"/usr/share/zoneinfo"' -std=gnu99 -c -o localtime.o localtime.c localtime.c: In function 'tzloadbody': localtime.c:698: warning: comparison is always false due to limited range of data type localtime.c:708: warning: comparison is always false due to limited range of data type cc -DTZDIR='"/usr/share/zoneinfo"' -std=gnu99 -c -o asctime.o asctime.c cc -DTZDIR='"/usr/share/zoneinfo"' -std=gnu99 -c -o strftime.o strftime.c cc -DTZDIR='"/usr/share/zoneinfo"' -o zdump -std=gnu99 zdump.o localtime.o asctime.o strftime.o cc -DTZDIR='"/usr/share/zoneinfo"' -std=gnu99 -c -o difftime.o difftime.c rm -f libtz.a ar -rc libtz.a localtime.o asctime.o difftime.o strftime.o : libtz.a awk \ -v DATAFORM=`expr main.zi : '$.*$.zi'` \ -v PACKRATDATA='' \ -v PACKRATLIST='' \ -f ziguard.awk \ africa antarctica asia australasia europe northamerica southamerica etcetera factory backward >main.zi.out mv main.zi.out main.zi version=`sed 1q version` && \ LC_ALL=C awk \ -v dataform='main' \ -v deps='ziguard.awk africa antarctica asia australasia europe northamerica southamerica etcetera factory backward zishrink.awk' \ -v redo='posix_right' \ -v version="$version" \ -f zishrink.awk \ main.zi >tzdata.zi.out mv tzdata.zi.out tzdata.zi awk \ -v DATAFORM=`expr vanguard.zi : '$.*$.zi'` \ -v PACKRATDATA='' \ -v PACKRATLIST='' \ -f ziguard.awk \ africa antarctica asia australasia europe northamerica southamerica etcetera factory backward >vanguard.zi.out mv vanguard.zi.out vanguard.zi awk \ -v DATAFORM=`expr rearguard.zi : '$.*$.zi'` \ -v PACKRATDATA='' \ -v PACKRATLIST='' \ -f ziguard.awk \ africa antarctica asia australasia europe northamerica southamerica etcetera factory backward >rearguard.zi.out mv rearguard.zi.out rearguard.zi make BACKWARD='backward' DESTDIR='' LEAPSECONDS='' PACKRATDATA='' PACKRATLIST='' TZDEFAULT='/etc/localtime' TZDIR='/usr/share/zoneinfo' ZIC='./zic ' LEAPSECONDS= install_data make[1]: Entering directory `/vmfs/devroot/tz' ./zic -d '/usr/share/zoneinfo' tzdata.zi ./zic: Can't link /usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Abidjan to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/Accra: Invalid argument make[1]: *** [install_data] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/vmfs/devroot/tz' make: *** [posix_only] Error 2 Rune Torgersen Senior Engineer Innovative Systems LLC

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TZ patch to fix broken link
by Matthew Boynes 11 Sep '23

11 Sep '23

Hello TZ group, Attached is a patch to fix a broken link in the africa file. Following the guidelines in the contributions file <https://github.com/eggert/tz/blob/main/CONTRIBUTING>, it sounded like this was the preferred place to email the patch, but please redirect me if it should go elsewhere. Thanks! Matt Boynes

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Danish standard time will probably officially be based on UTC
by Jonas Nyrup 09 Sep '23

09 Sep '23

Since 1893-03-29 Danish standard time has been defined as "the mean solar time for the 15th degree of longitude east of Greenwich" (machine translated of the offical law). With the introduction of UTC we didn't update that law, but we did start using UTC+1 as standard time in practice. So for around 50 years maybe only astronomers have been following the law. The Minister of Transportation has now proposed a bill to update the law to define Danish standard time as UTC+1 to keep up with reality. At the first reading all political parties expressed their support and jokingly noted that "it was about time". The updated law is expected to take effect on 2023-03-26. The current law: https://www.retsinformation.dk/eli/lta/1893/83 The bill: https://www.ft.dk/samling/20222/lovforslag/l19/index.htm Tom Scott on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRz-Dl60Lfc Jonas Nyrup

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Turkey name change
by Letu Yang 07 Sep '23

07 Sep '23

I understand this has been discussed last year, but since then both UN and US had adopted the name change from “Turkey” to “ Türkiye”. https://turkiye.un.org/en/184798-turkeys-name-changed-t%C3%BCrkiye Turkey's name changed to Türkiye turkiye.un.org https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/05/world/middleeast/turkey-spelling-change.… For the State Department, Now It’s Türkiye, Not Turkey nytimes.com Recently Unicode CLDR data has updated the name in CLDR 43 as well. https://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-43 The Turkish government recently asked businesses operating in Türkiye to adopt the new name before the end of the 2023. I think it might be the time for the Turkey Time to be changed to Türkiye Time in tzdata. Letu Yang

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