June 2023 - tz - lists.iana.org

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by Cool Gab19 05 Sep '24

05 Sep '24

can you add Philippine Daylight Time on your Database I think it was missing from the list of the time zones please reply immediately if solved thanks...

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Re: [tz] Time for a Lunar time zone? -Brooks
by Paul Eggert 11 Jul '24

11 Jul '24

On 3/2/23 09:51, Brooks Harris wrote: > Will we need DST on the Moon? :-) I hope not! The Moon's axis tilts only 1.5°, much less than the 23.5° of Earth's axis, so seasonal effects on sunlight duration are much less intense on the Moon and there should be less need for Earth-like DST. A more pressing issue is that the length of day (including daytime and nighttime) varies more on the Moon. Local Earth days vary by at most 0.008 hours from the mean of 24 hours (this variation is due to the eccentricity of the Earth orbit and the obliquity of the ecliptic). So people who think that every local Earth day is exactly 24 hours are not far off. Local lunar days, in contrast, are roughly 29.5 ± 0.25 Earth days (again, this includes both lunar daytime and lunar nighttime). That's more slop to deal with, relatively speaking, and dealing with varying-length days could be a bit of a problem for civil time on the Moon. Presumably ESA's boffins are on top of this.....

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Did Greenland abolish daylight saving from 2024 on?
by Paul Eggert 20 Nov '23

20 Nov '23

This week several English-language news sources reported that Greenland has moved its clocks forward for the last time. These reports disagree with current TZDB[1], which follows Thomas M. Steenholdt's December email[2] saying that although in November Greenlanders voted to not fall back this fall, they also voted to continue to observe daylight saving time (DST) next year, effectively moving their time zone one hour east instead of abolishing DST. There's no disagreement about timekeeping this year. The first point of disagreement is March 30, 2024 at 23:00, when TZDB says Nuuk, Greenland will spring forward to 24:00, whereas the recent news reports say clocks will neither spring forward nor fall back during 2024. So who's right: Steenholdt in December, or these several recent news reports? Currently TZDB goes with Steenholdt. After all, he cited the relevant Greenland legislation and his email address ends in ".gl". I suppose another possibility, though, is that Greenland's government has changed its mind since November. However, if so I'd like to see citations to the newer legislation. The earliest recent news story I found on this topic was a week ago by Lebawit Lily Girma[3], senior travel news reporter for Bloomberg Pursuits. I'm taking the liberty of bcc'ing Girma to see if she can help get to the bottom of the situation. [1]: https://iana.org/tz [2]: https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2022-December/032402.html [3]: Girma LL. Greenland Solves the Daylight Saving Time Debate. Bloomberg. 2023-03-24. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-24/greenland-keeps-daylight… Here are some of the other news reports I found. Greenland to stay in daylight saving time forever. AP. 2023-03-27. https://apnews.com/article/greenland-daylight-saving-summertime-utc-gmt-3b5… Martin M. Greenland is keeping daylight saving time permanently. NPR. 2023-03-28. https://www.wunc.org/2023-03-28/greenland-is-keeping-daylight-saving-time-p… Selcho M. Here’s why Greenland is permanently keeping daylight saving time. Deseret News. 2023-03-28. https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2023/3/28/23660379/why-greenland-keeping-… Jerusalem Post staff. Greenland changed their clocks to daylight savings for the last time. Jerusalem Post. 2023-03-29. https://www.jpost.com/international/article-735751 Carpineti A. Greenland Has Changed Its Clocks For The Last Time, Embracing Daylight Savings Forever. IFLScience. 2023-03-29. https://www.iflscience.com/greenland-has-changed-its-clocks-for-the-last-ti…

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Danish standard time will probably officially be based on UTC
by Jonas Nyrup 09 Sep '23

09 Sep '23

Since 1893-03-29 Danish standard time has been defined as "the mean solar time for the 15th degree of longitude east of Greenwich" (machine translated of the offical law). With the introduction of UTC we didn't update that law, but we did start using UTC+1 as standard time in practice. So for around 50 years maybe only astronomers have been following the law. The Minister of Transportation has now proposed a bill to update the law to define Danish standard time as UTC+1 to keep up with reality. At the first reading all political parties expressed their support and jokingly noted that "it was about time". The updated law is expected to take effect on 2023-03-26. The current law: https://www.retsinformation.dk/eli/lta/1893/83 The bill: https://www.ft.dk/samling/20222/lovforslag/l19/index.htm Tom Scott on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRz-Dl60Lfc Jonas Nyrup

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Error in Scandinavian tz data
by Anders Rosendahl 28 Jun '23

28 Jun '23

Hello! I'm developing an application using the JavaScript Intl API (which is relying on the IANA tz db) for converting between local time and UTC. I started receiving error reports from users about wrong calculations (particularly from Denmark in the 1940's), and I discovered that in some cases daylight saving time was applied in a way not in accordance to historical facts. I investigated the IANA tz database files and I discovered that a change has happened in version 2022b (in the file "europe"). Compared to the earlier version (2022a), 4 zones seem to have their rules removed and instead linked to Europe/Berlin: Link Europe/Berlin Arctic/Longyearbyen Link Europe/Berlin Europe/Copenhagen Link Europe/Berlin Europe/Oslo Link Europe/Berlin Europe/Stockholm This, evidently, is not correct, and will result in erroneous results for these zones. Best wishes, Anders Rosendahl

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Re: [tz] [libc-coord] thread-safe localtime() for an arbitrary timezone
by Paul Eggert 21 Jun '23

21 Jun '23

On 2023-06-15 10:03, enh wrote: > any thoughts on either renaming `struct state` (i went with `struct > __timezone_t` to match the typedef to timezone_t for the pointer) or having > a knob for that (i added a `#define state __timezone_t` in the `#if > NETBSD_INSPIRED` in private.h)? why do i care? because tzcode pulls in the > system <time.h>, which is actually fine for the tzcode code, but breaks the > OpenBSD wcsftime(). We could rename 'struct state', but I'm a bit lost as to what the problem is, as I don't see mention of 'state' or 'timezone_t' in openbsd/lib/libc/time/wcsftime.c. Although there is a 'struct state' in openbsd/lib/libc/time/localtime.c I assume you're replacing that with tzcode's localtime.c somehow. User apps (which tzcode is, by default) shouldn't define symbols like __timezone_t because these symbols are reserved to the system. We could easily rename 'struct state' to 'struct timezone_struct' so that you could compile with -Dtimezone_struct=__timezone_t, though I'm still curious about why 'struct state' causes problems. I'll cc this to the tz mailing list to see whether other people there have insight into this issue. For those new to the discussion, the original thread is archived here: https://www.openwall.com/lists/libc-coord/2023/06/14/1

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Iran Time Zone is Incorrect in Your Database
by Mohammad Ahmadian 02 Jun '23

02 Jun '23

Hello, Thanks for your service. This year, the Iran government decided to cancel the daylight time zone. So they did not change the time zone to 04:30. It is now 03:30. I updated my tablet via this application to the latest version of your database successfully: https://github.com/meefik/tzupdater But the time zone is wrongly 04:30 again. Please change your database. Let me know what you think and do. Thank you

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Tzdb build issue
by Naveen kumar 01 Jun '23

01 Jun '23

Hi Team, I am facing this issue while compiling the tzdata latest version tzdb-2023c.I attached the log for your reference. Thanks, Naveen.

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[PROPOSED] Update tzselect comment
by Paul Eggert 31 May '23

31 May '23

* tzselect.ksh: Update comment, as Oracle has extended the end-of-life date for Solaris 10. --- tzselect.ksh | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/tzselect.ksh b/tzselect.ksh index 9a91acfc..98774c03 100644 --- a/tzselect.ksh +++ b/tzselect.ksh @@ -21,7 +21,7 @@ REPORT_BUGS_TO=tz(a)iana.org # MirBSD Korn Shell <http://www.mirbsd.org/mksh.htm> # # For portability to Solaris 10 /bin/sh (supported by Oracle through -# January 2024) this script avoids some POSIX features and common +# January 2025) this script avoids some POSIX features and common # extensions, such as $(...) (which works sometimes but not others), # $((...)), ! CMD, ${#ID}, ${ID##PAT}, ${ID%%PAT}, and $10. -- 2.39.2

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