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Internet address change for elsie.nci.nih.gov
by ado Nov. 25, 1994

Nov. 25, 1994

The Internet address for elsie.nci.nih.gov has changed from 128.231.16.1 to 165.112.73.1; assuming the name servers do their things, this change should be invisible to folks who use the name rather than the address. --ado

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Re: Canadian bilingual time zone names
by ado Nov. 23, 1994

Nov. 23, 1994

> I think probably the best thing is to leave this to the multilingual > handling stuff each system has. > > In message catalog systems, I think it is easy to use the current zone names > as the key to language-specialized message catalogs of time zone names. One thing the multilingual handling stuff might not handle well would be the names of time zone files, which are what's used to establish the time zone to be used. A possibility here would be to take the tack used with the "backward" file in the distribution: set up a file (named, for example, "espanol") with lines such as Link America/Mexico_City America/Ciudad_Mejico and provide instructions on how system administrators can zic espanol to generate language-specific stuff. --ado

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Canadian bilingual time zone names
by eggert＠twinsun.com Nov. 16, 1994

Nov. 16, 1994

I enclose below (with permission) copies of Usenet articles written by Alain LaBont<e'>, which cover the Canadian standard for multilingual time zone names. (I've told him about the tz tables.) At first I thought I'd propose to duplicate all the Canadian Zone and Rule lines, one copy for English and one copy for French. But now I'm not so sure, since this practice would greatly balloon the tables if we did it for all multilingual locations. The topic of multilingual time zone names seems to have slipped through the standardization cracks, since the LC_TIME environment variable doesn't address this issue. One way out of the problem would be to extend the syntax of the TZ environment variable to allow optional specification of the names of the standard and daylight zone names before the name of the file. E.g. `TZ=America/Halifax,HNA,HAA' for people in <I^>les-de-la-Madeleine who want French time zone names. This is a bit of a hack, since it doesn't address the issue of double-daylight zone names, or changes in zone names over time, but it may be the most practical solution. Another way would be to extend LC_TIME somehow to cover time zone names. This sounds less plausible to me, since there are dozens of time zones and most locales don't care about names of time zones on the other side of the planet. From: ALB(a)immedia.ca Newsgroups: comp.software.international Date: 14 Nov 1994 14:39:23 -0500 Message-ID: <3a8edb$781(a)senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Now as promised, I post here the time zone abbreviations standardized in Canada for both English and French in CAN/CSA-Z234.4-89 standard (I have added notes and corrected minor typos still in the standard/ the abbreviations and numeric and alphabetic time zones are correct in the standard, what I corrected would not change any technical content). Table A2 - Canadian Time Zones Abbreviations (Abr<e'>viations des fuseaux horaires pour le Canada) Standard Time Daylight Saving Time ITU Designator Hours West French English French English of UTC HN- -ST HA- -DT 2-1/2 - - HAT NDT - 3 - - HAA ADT P 3-1/2 HNT NST - - - 4 HNA AST HAE EDT Q 5 HNE EST HAC CDT R 6 HNC CST HAR MDT S 7 HNR MST HAP PDT T 8 HNP PST HAY YDT U 9 HNY YST - - V HN stands for "Heure normale"/HA stands for "Heure avanc<e'>e" ST stands for "Standard Time"/DT stands for "Dailight saving Time" Prefix/Suffix meaning (note from ALB: I added the appropriate prepositions and articles "du, de l', des, de" for non-French speakers, so that the information of the standard be completed for them - this data is not in any version of the std.): A: Atlantic/de l'Atlantique C: Central/du Centre E: Eastern/de l'Est M: Mountain (note from ALB: see R for French) N: Newfoundland (note from ALB: see T for French) P: Pacific/du Pacifique R: des Rocheuses (note from ALB: see M for English) T: de Terre-Neuve (note from ALB: see N for English) Y: Yukon/du Yukon Note: The standard says (I cite the English version textually): "Although there is no ISO standard on time zone designators, the letters given in table A1 have been adopted by the International Telecommunication Union (ITU/[UIT in French]), a UN ["Nations Unies" in the French version, normally abbreviated ONU] special agency having the status of treaty organization regarding radio operations and regulations. Within North America the abbreviations given in table A2 are also used." The standard also deals with all-numeric dates and times (Repr<e'>sentation num<e'>rique de la date et de l'heure). I invite those who want non-time-zone-related information on this subject to buy the standard from CSA (Canadian Standards Association/Association canadienne de normalisation) sales offices throughout the world. I only cited here the full table A2. Table A1 starts with Z for UTC, goes from A to M East of UTC (with M as a half-zone) and N to Y West of UTC (with Y as a half-zone); the Newfoundland half-zone does not seem covered by ITU/UIT, despite it is on the soil where the first transatlantic (first long range) radio transmissions were done by Marconi. Quarter zones are not covered either by ITU, even if this does not affect Canada, but certain countries. I also think that what would be good to document would be the dates on which standard and daylight-saving time changes are done throughout the world. I have not found that data in any place. I think it can *not* be done only on ITU designators, as it has to take into account at least Northern/Sourthern hemisphere and even national/multinational conventions and laws (for example, this fall, Britain, Europe and North America have all switched to Standard Time at different dates [3 dates...], sometimes at weeks of interval !!!) For other countries it is quite problematic... from time to time, laws change too. Perhaps there is a need for a worldwide registration authority for that matter. Alain LaBont<e'> Gouvernement du Qu<e'>bec Secr<e'>tariat du Conseil du tr<e'>sor Service de la prospective et de la francisation ----------- end of message 1 ----------- start of message 2 Destinat. (CA-JTC1-SC2(a)MICROSTAR.COM, CPWG-MAIL(a)REVCAN.CA, SC22WG20(a)DKUUG.DK) Objet : Mnemonics for the ITU assigned time zone codes... Envoyeur: RNET (ALB(a)immedia.ca) Date : 11/15/94 Time : 21:17 ---------- It is interesting to note that there is a mnemonic way to remember the time zone codes attributed by ITU for North America. Q applies to at least one of the two time zones of Quebec at any time of the year (Eastern Daylight Time in the summer, Atlantic Standard Time in the winter). Remember "Quebec in the summer", the most beautiful time of the year... For R, remember "Rivi<e`>re-du-loup West of the Atlantic": (see below) 4 HNA AST HAE EDT Q 5 HNE EST HAC CDT R FYI: Atlantic time zone used to begin West in Rivi<e`>re-du-loup when I was a teenager (to respect exact time zone calculations that divides the world into 24 equal parts). For convenience, all continental Quebec is on Eastern Time all the time now while the Atlantic Time Zone, because it is quite far East, applies to <I^>les-de-la-Madeleine, which is predominently-French-speaking Quebec even if you have to cross 2 other provinces (NB and PEI) to access it (it was populated by deported Acadians, and more recently by St.Pierrans and Miqueloners [from "neighbouring" St-Pierre-et-Miquelon, France]). On the continent, in Canada, you cross the Eastern zone to the Atlantic zone when you cross the bridge between Quebec and New Brunswick (between Matap<e'>dia and Campbelton). Interesting to note also that in the aviation jargon worldwide, the letter Q is pronounced Quebec (ALPHA... BRAVO... ... QUEBEC ... TANGO ... ZULU). When taking my first flight lessons at the Quebec airport in the eighties, I was puzzled about why they were identifying the control tower by "QUEBEC BRAVO" ("Why were they adding BRAVO?", I did not know... at the second lesson I heard it was the standard way of identifying the airport, whose code is YQB! [Y is for Canada and is obvious, it seems]) Z (i.e. ZULU) is assigned to UTC time zone (i.e. the time zone whose centre is at the Greenwich Observatory Meridian). Alain LaBont<e'> Gouvernement du Qu<e'>bec Secr<e'>tariat du Conseil du tr<e'>sor Service de la prospective et de la francisation

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DST hits police blotter
by ado Oct. 31, 1994

Oct. 31, 1994

The "Names & Faces" column in the Monday, October 31, 1994 Washington (DC) Post, page D3 (compiled from staff and wire reports by Marla Harper) contains a "Daylight-Saving Bust" item. Erik (son of Kirk) Douglas was arrested after arguing with a Denny's manager who wouldn't serve him a drink. "...Douglas had insisted he be served, saying the one-hour shift to Pacific Standard Time made it 1 a.m.-- and within the 2 a.m. cutoff for alcohol sales..." --ado

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DST article in Washington Post
by ado Oct. 27, 1994

Oct. 27, 1994

The article "What Time Is It Anyway? It Depends on Your Location & the Season" with a sidebar "Brief History of Daylight Savings" appears in the Thursday, October 27, 1994 Washington (DC) Post, page D5. The author is Cathy Grubman, who relies extensively on Joanne Petrie ("Mother Time") of the US Department of Transportation. --ado

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Confirmation of data for Estonia
by Peter Ilieve Oct. 15, 1994

Oct. 15, 1994

I apologise in advance to whoever produced the data for Estonia in the 93e data as they may have known it was authoritative, but there is no source given. A relative in Tallinn confirms the accuracy of the data for 1989 onwards and gives the legal authority for it, a regulation of the Government of Estonia, No. 111 of 1989. It is interesting to me that changing their timezone arrangements was one of the first things they did in the process of getting out from under 50 years of Soviet occupation. My source doesn't know if any changes will be made in 1996 and beyond to track the change in EU dates specified in the European 7th directive. Even though the dates are currently the same the Estonians change an hour before the EU, at midnight GMT. Peter Ilieve peter(a)memex.co.uk

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New Daylight Savings dates for South Australia
by John Warburton Oct. 7, 1994

Oct. 7, 1994

Hello, I belive that the timezone files are being centrally managed by you. You will be interested to know that the new Daylight Savings dates for South Australia (zone Australia/Adelaide*) was gazetted in the Government Hansard on Sep 26 1994. start: Sunday 30 October end: Sunday 26 March i.e. start on last Sunday in October and end in last sunday in March. (*) Just a note of concern. Vendor distributed timezone file that I have seen (SunOS, UnixWare) describe timezones by Australian state eg Australia/South, Australias/Tasmania etc, rather than this new method of naming zones by the capital city. I'm just wondering where it came from & is it really correct, as timezone affect the whole stae and not just the capital city. John (who fears daylight savings each year...) -- John Warburton jwarb(a)SACBH.com.au ASPECT Computing email address valid until 31/12/94 You miss the vendor... The vendor hits! The vendor hits! The vendor hits! --More-- You die...

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[bugs@freebsd.org: Re: Timezone bug in 1.1R]
by Garrett Wollman Sept. 25, 1994

Sept. 25, 1994

I will fix this in FreeBSD; here is the problem for the benefit of other TZ users... ------- start of forwarded message (RFC 934) ------- Message-Id: <199409250603.GAA18199(a)apu.fi> Precedence: bulk From: Hannu Strang <chs(a)apu.fi> Sender: bugs-owner(a)freebsd.org To: bugs(a)freebsd.org Subject: Re: Timezone bug in 1.1R Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 06:03:37 GMT > Well, here in Helsinki we're just changing from summer time to > regular one, and it's supposed to change at 4am... > This 1.1R box just changed the time, and it's now only 3am. > So the change is off by one hour... Not that it matters too > much, just felt like reporting it. > > Is the timezone code changed in 1.1.5.1 or 2.0? > >lrwxrwxr-x 1 root 35 Jun 10 22:09 /etc/localtime -> >/usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Helsinki There seems to be an error in /usr/src/share/zoneinfo/europe also in 2.0. Zone for Finland (Europe/Helsinki) ends up with line 2:00 M-Eur EET%s which should be 2:00 E-Eur EET%s instead. Zone EET (which I have been using) is correct. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Greece, Moldova, Romania, Turkey, Ukraine (Europe/Kiev) look suspicious the same way but I don't know about them. ------- end -------

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South Australia fools around with it's timezone again
by Mark Prior Sept. 21, 1994

Sept. 21, 1994

Just when I thought the politicians had got some sort of system into our magic roundabout of a timezone they play about with it again! It appears that even though there is no Adelaide Festival next year we are ending daylight saving on March 26 (ie we are using the even year rule in an odd year). Apparently we are doing this to stay in line with Victoria and Tasmania so maybe this is for Moomba or something. NSW and ACT are finishing daylight saving as usual on March 5. At least they haven't played with the start of daylight saving which is still the last Sunday in October. So next year's rule is Rule AS 1995 only - Mar 26 2:00 0 - Mark.

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time zone map
by ado Sept. 4, 1994

Sept. 4, 1994

A time zone map of unknown pedigree is available from wuarchive.wustl.edu; the file is multimedia/images/jpeg/unindexed/940901/timezon2.jpg. --ado

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