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FW: New Location request
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Dec. 22, 2008

Dec. 22, 2008

I'm forwarding this message from Marek Hajduczenia, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado From: Marek Hajduczenia [mailto:marek_haj@2com.pl] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 3:30 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: New Location request Dear Sir/Madam, I am writing to You with a small request. Is it possible to add one location to time zone data base app i.e. Howland Island (see: http://www.worldtimezone.com/time/wtzresult.php?CiID=42242) It is used heavily in IEEE ballots as the Anywhere On Earth time locator and it would be nice to have. Me and my colleagues use various plugins which in turns use this data base for reference and currently this location is not available. I do realize that this is not an inhabited island though there is some point of merit in adding it to the list. Alternatively, adding any location which has GMT-12 hrs would be of use, no matter what the name is. It would be most useful for IEEE community (I am speaking here as its member only). If You have any comments, please let me know. Kindest regards Marek Hajduczenia

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tzdata for Switzerland 1940 - 1942 probably incorrect - PS
by Alois Treindl Dec. 16, 2008

Dec. 16, 2008

I forgot to correct the begin times. These must be according to the meteorological federal office: The rules must be changed to Rule Swiss 1941 1942 - May Mon>=1 1:00 1:00 S Rule Swiss 1941 1942 - Oct Mon>=1 2:00 0 - or made explicit for these two years, 1941 and 1942. The rule for 1940 must be deleted. Best regards Alois Treindl -- || Dr. Alois Treindl, Astrodienst AG, mailto:alois@astro.com || Zollikon/Zurich, Switzerland || Free astrological charts at http://www.astro.com/ || SWISS EPHEMERIS Free Edition at http://www.astro.com/swisseph/

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tzdata for Switzerland 1940 - 1942 probably incorrect
by Alois Treindl Dec. 15, 2008

Dec. 15, 2008

Hello tzdata currently has these rules for Switzerland: # From Whitman (who writes ``Midnight?''): Rule Swiss 1940 only - Nov 2 0:00 1:00 S Rule Swiss 1940 only - Dec 31 0:00 0 - # From Shanks & Pottenger: Rule Swiss 1941 1942 - May Sun>=1 2:00 1:00 S Rule Swiss 1941 1942 - Oct Sun>=1 0:00 0 - These are most likely incorrect. I have been practicing astrology in Switzerland since 1980 (in recent years running the website www.astro.com) and have never come upon any source which claimed DST in Switzerland for 1940. A current source is for example metas.ch/metasweb/Themen/sommerzeit;internal which is the Federal office for meteorology. This page has (near the bottom) Sommerzeit 1941 bis 1942 Bei Beginn wurden die Uhren von 01:00 auf 02:00 Uhr vorgestellt und am Ende entsprechend von 02:00 auf 01:00 h zurückgestellt. (begin at 1 am, clocks shifted to 2am; end 2am, clocks shifted to 1 am) 1942 begin 4. Mai end 5. Oktober 1941 begin 5. Mai end 6. Oktober This is what Shanks has in the International Atlas, all editions. He is wrongly quoted in tzdata. 5 may 1941 is a monday, 6 Oct 1942 is a monday. 4 may 1942 and 5 Oct 1942 are also mondays. The rules must either be changed to Rule Swiss 1941 1942 - May Mon>=1 2:00 1:00 S Rule Swiss 1941 1942 - Oct Mon>=1 0:00 0 - or made explicit for these two years, 1941 and 1942. The rule for 1940 must be deleted. Best regards Alois Treindl -- || Dr. Alois Treindl, Astrodienst AG, mailto:alois@astro.com || Zollikon/Zurich, Switzerland || Free astrological charts at http://www.astro.com/ || SWISS EPHEMERIS Free Edition at http://www.astro.com/swisseph/

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time during standard to DST transition
by Jennifer Wang (jennifwa) Dec. 11, 2008

Dec. 11, 2008

Hello, We ran into a problem when setting time to the "missing hour" during transition from standard time to DST time. For example, setting time to Mar 8, 2009 at 2:10am using America/Los_Angeles time zone results in error. Should mktime() skip forward in this case and set the time to Mar 8, 2009 3:10am? Jennifer

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Mahe India TZ off 1 hr 30 min
by Julie Delany Dec. 11, 2008

Dec. 11, 2008

Hi, I found that Mahe, India (Mahe is the only city in India in the TZ? It's all one timezone anyway) has an error in the tz database. Per the world clock's meeting time program (using the TZ?): http:// www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html? month=12&day=17&year=2008&p1=44&p2=224&p3=179&p4=-1 If it is 10:00 am Los Angeles time Wednesday Dec 17th, 2008, it is 11:30 p.m. in Mahe/Mumbai/India. But when I'm using the TZ in my perl program I get 10:00 p.m. Could you check that out for me? I've had to update my perl script to add 1 hour & 30 min. Thanks, julie

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FW: Wrong Argentinian DST introduced in version 2008f
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Dec. 10, 2008

Dec. 10, 2008

I'm forwarding this message from Aurelien Jarno, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Aurelien Jarno [mailto:aurelien@aurel32.net] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:29 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Wrong Argentinian DST introduced in version 2008f Hi, tzdata version 2008f introduced a rule for Argentinian DST based on http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_argentina03.html and http://www.impulsobaires.com.ar/nota.php?id=57832 Unfortunately those links only speak about rumors of a DST change, there is nothing fixed officially, and according to some Argentinian people DST may even not happen this year. Until an official decision is taken it is probably a lot better to remove any DST rule for year 2008. Please find attached a patch to do that. Regards, Aurelien -- .''`. Aurelien Jarno | GPG: 1024D/F1BCDB73 : :' : Debian developer | Electrical Engineer `. `' aurel32(a)debian.org | aurelien(a)aurel32.net `- people.debian.org/~aurel32 | www.aurel32.net

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Fwd: zdump loop problem
by Jonathan Leffler Dec. 10, 2008

Dec. 10, 2008

Originally sent to the wrong email address - sorry. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jonathan Leffler <jonathan.leffler(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:14 PM Subject: Re: zdump loop problem To: Robbin Kawabata <Robbin.Kawabata(a)sun.com> Cc: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov, a.radke(a)arcor.de On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Robbin Kawabata <Robbin.Kawabata(a)sun.com>wrote: > I ran ado's fix against all the timezones, and got good results. > > This is the diff: > > *** zdump_loop.c Tue Dec 2 11:17:01 2008 > --- zdump_fix_ado.c Tue Dec 2 12:49:05 2008 > *************** > *** 312,322 **** > (void) strncpy(buf, abbr(&tm), sizeof (buf) - 1); > } > for (;;) { > ! if (t >= cuthitime) > break; > newt = t + SECSPERHOUR * 12; > - if (newt >= cuthitime) > - break; > if (newt <= t) > break; > newtmp = localtime(&newt); > --- 312,320 ---- > (void) strncpy(buf, abbr(&tm), sizeof (buf) - 1); > } > for (;;) { > ! if (t >= cuthitime || t >= cuthitime - SECSPERHOUR > * 12) > break; > Isn't that code equivalent to just: if (t >= cuthitime - SECSPERHOUR * 12) I've not followed all the details of the thread, but AFAIUI, this code is protecting against overflow on positive quantities (rather than underflow on negative ones), and the double test is redundant unless cuthitime is within 12 * SECPERHOUR of the smallest (most negative) integer. > newt = t + SECSPERHOUR * 12; > if (newt <= t) > break; > newtmp = localtime(&newt); > > > However, isn't the check for "if (newt <= t) break" no longer needed? > Probably... > ----- Begin Forwarded Message ----- > > Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:21:00 -0500 > From: "Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E]" <olsona(a)dc37a.nci.nih.gov> > Subject: Re: zdump loop problem > To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov > Cc: Andreas Radke <a.radke(a)arcor.de> > > So...in the real world, does changing the zic.c lines reading... > if (t >= cuthitime) > break; > newt = t + SECSPERHOUR * 12; > if (newt >= cuthitime) > break; > ...to read... > if (t >= cuthitime || t >= cuthitime - > SECSPERHOUR * 12) > break; > newt = t + SECSPERHOUR * 12; > ...result in working code? I'd particularly appreciate feedback from > Andreas Radke or other ArchLinux users. > > ----- End Forwarded Message ----- > -- Jonathan Leffler <jonathan.leffler(a)gmail.com> #include <disclaimer.h> Guardian of DBD::Informix - v2008.0513 - http://dbi.perl.org "Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves, for we shall never cease to be amused."

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FW: Cuba 2004-2006
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Dec. 10, 2008

Dec. 10, 2008

I'm forwarding this message from hsv(a)tbbs.net, who is not on the time zone mailing list (at least not at that address). Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. Hsv is correct that there's no real shift in April 2005 or April 2006. While the current rules do the right thing, I plan to include a change from... Rule Cuba 2000 2006 - Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D ...to... Rule Cuba 2000 2004 - Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D ...in the next bundle of changes for clarity. --ado -----Original Message----- From: hsv(a)tbbs.net [mailto:hsv@tbbs.net] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 12:19 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Cuba 2004-2006 This looks queer: Rule Cuba 1998 2003 - Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S Rule Cuba 2000 2006 - Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D Rule Cuba 2006 max - Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S I take the foregoing for something like this: ... 2003 Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D 2003 Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S 2004 Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D 2005 Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D 2006 Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D 2006 Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S ... but at those Aprils in 2005 and 2006 there is no real shift. Is this right?

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Brazil rule issue
by Alain Petit Dec. 9, 2008

Dec. 9, 2008

Hi I am looking in the Brazil rules and I was wondering if this was expected: <snapshot> Rule Brazil 2007 only - Oct Sun>=8 0:00 1:00 S # From Frederico A. C. Neves (2008-09-10): # Acording to this decree # <a href="http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/_Ato2007-2010/2008/Decreto/D6558.htm"> # http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/_Ato2007-2010/2008/Decreto/D6558.htm # </a> # [t]he DST period in Brazil now on will be from the 3rd Oct Sunday to the # 3rd Feb Sunday. There is an exception on the return date when this is # the Carnival Sunday then the return date will be the next Sunday... Rule Brazil 2008 max - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S Rule Brazil 2008 2011 - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2012 only - Feb Sun>=22 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2013 2014 - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2015 only - Feb Sun>=22 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2016 2022 - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2023 only - Feb Sun>=22 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2024 2025 - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2026 only - Feb Sun>=22 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2027 2033 - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2034 only - Feb Sun>=22 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2035 2036 - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Rule Brazil 2037 only - Feb Sun>=22 0:00 0 - # From Arthur David Olson (2008-09-29): # The next is wrong in some years but is better than nothing. Rule Brazil 2038 max - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - </snapshot> There is 2 'max' entry for Brazil, one for 2008, and one for 2038. Rule Brazil 2008 max - Oct Sun>=15 0:00 1:00 S Rule Brazil 2038 max - Feb Sun>=15 0:00 0 - Reading the entries for 2012+ I feel that the one for 2008 should be a 'only' rather than 'max'. Is that correct? Thanks Alain Petit

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Re: Timezones and Holidays
by Sue Williams Dec. 9, 2008

Dec. 9, 2008

> > Hello All, > > Anyone have information on a location that would describe local/official > holidays in some sort of global format like the timezones? > > Bill Raymond > braymond <at> arinc.com Q++ Studio is another website offering comprehensive worldwide public holiday information. http://www.qppstudio.net/publicholidays.htm Here's another organization that focusses on Bank holidays: http://www.bank-holidays.com/ With a little searching, there may be more. I'm not aware of any open community effort to maintain such information. Perhaps someone else knows of something. Good luck. Susan J Williams

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