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Bangladesh to continue DST indefinitely
by Steffen Thorsen Oct. 13, 2009

Oct. 13, 2009

IANS (Indo-Asian News Service) now reports: Bangladesh has decided that the clock advanced by an hour to make maximum use of daylight hours as an energy saving measure would “continue for an indefinite period”. One of many places where it is published: http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/bangladesh-to-continue-indefin… Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com

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Pakistan data incorrect?
by Andy Heninger Oct. 12, 2009

Oct. 12, 2009

Pinging the Pakistan question again, the current (2009n) data for Pakistan appears to be incorrect for the date for the end of daylight savings time for this year, 2009n says Rule Pakistan 2009 only - Oct 1 0:00 0 - Should be Rule Pakistan 2009 only - Nov 1 0:00 0 - I've independently received reports that Pakistan is still on Daylight time, but if someone located there could confirm it, that would be good. (I'm not there.) And then, of course, the data wants to be updated. Thanks, -- Andy

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tzdata2009m.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Oct. 12, 2009

Oct. 12, 2009

The file... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009m.tar.gz ...is now available; this reflects the changes circulated last week on the time zone mailing list (added commentary for Argentina and a change to the end of DST in 2009 in Pakistan). I'll wait for reports on what actually happens in Bangladesh on October 1 before making any changes there, but a tzdata2009n can be expected sometime within a month. --ado

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Pakistan confirmed back to ST on Oct 1, Bangladesh not
by Alexander Krivenyshev Oct. 8, 2009

Oct. 8, 2009

According to Associated Press Of Pakistan, it is confirmed that Pakistan clocks across the country would be turned back by an hour from October 1, 2009. "Clocks to go back one hour from 1 Oct" http://www.app.com.pk/en_/index.php? option=com_content&task=view&id=86715&Itemid=2 or http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_pakistan07.htm Also, Bangladesh won't go back to Standard Time from October 1, 2009, instead it will continue DST measure till the cabinet makes a decision. Following report by same newspaper- "The Daily Star Friday": "DST change awaits cabinet decision- Clock won't go back by 1-hr from Oct 1" http://www.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=107021 or http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_bangladesh04.html Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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FW: tz-art.htm
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Oct. 7, 2009

Oct. 7, 2009

-----Original Message----- From: Mark Brader [mailto:msb@vex.net] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 6:27 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: tz-art.htm I am not on the TZ mailing list. Please direct responses appropriately. * The 1953 railway comedy movie "The Titfield Thunderbolt" includes a play on words on British Double Summer Time. Valentine's wife wants him to leave the pub and asks him, "Do you know what time it is?" And he, happy where he is, replies: "Yes, my love. Summer double time." IMDB page: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0046436/ * The premise of the 1999 caper movie "Entrapment" involves computers in an international banking network being shut down briefly at midnight in each time zone to avoid any problems at the transition from the year 1999 to 2000 in that zone. (Hmmmm.) If this shutdown is extended by 10 seconds, it will create a one-time opportunity for a gigantic computerized theft. To achieve this, at one location the crooks interfere with the microwave system supplying time signals to the computer, advancing the time by 0.1 second each minute over the last hour of 1999. (So this movie teaches us that 0.1 x 60 = 10.) IMDB page: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0137494/ And while I'm writing: the item about "A Matter of Life and Death" is missing the word "movie" or similar, and does not mention its other title, which it's known by in the US: "Stairway to Heaven". -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "In cyberspace, the lunatics not only run the asylum, msb(a)vex.net | but they helped build it..." --Richard Kadrey

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Korea and Japan are considering implementation of DST in 2010.
by Alexander Krivenyshev Oct. 7, 2009

Oct. 7, 2009

Korea and Japan are considering implementation of Daylight Saving Time in 2010. Korea, Japan Mull Daylight Saving Time Next Year: http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=050000&biid=2009100756898 or http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_korea07.html Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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Korea and Japan are considering implementation of DST in 2010.
by Alexander Krivenyshev Oct. 7, 2009

Oct. 7, 2009

Korea and Japan are considering implementation of Daylight Saving Time in 2010. Korea, Japan Mull Daylight Saving Time Next Year: http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?bicode=050000&biid=2009100756898 or http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_korea07.html Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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Samoa earthquake and tsunami- Daylight Saving Bill 2009 ?
by Alexander Krivenyshev Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

First, my deepest condolences to people of Samoa islands and all families and loved ones around the world who lost their lives in the earthquake and tsunami. Considering the recent devastation on Samoa by earthquake and tsunami and that many government offices/ ministers are closed- not sure if "Daylight Saving Bill 2009" will be implemented in next few days- on October 4, 2009. Here is reply from Consulate-General of Samoa in New Zealand --------------------------- Consul General consulgeneral(a)samoaconsulate.org.nz Talofa Alexander, Thank you for your sympathy for our country but at this time we have not been informed about the Daylight Savings Time Change. Most Ministries in Apia are closed or relocating due to weather concerns. When we do find out if they are still proceeding with the time change we will advise you soonest. Kind Regards, Lana for: Consul General -------------------------- Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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FW: Timezone files - Tru64
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Nick Bishop, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. (This matter was discussed last year on the list; note that using "23:59:59" rather than "23:59" as a workaround reduces the cheat.) --ado -----Original Message----- From: Bishop, Nick [mailto:nick.bishop@logica.com] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:10 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Timezone files - Tru64 Hi, The timezone files from ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ are useful for systems at end of life. Thanks. May I draw your attention to this line in the @(#)asia 8.41 file from tzdata2009n.tar.gz: 1165: Rule Jordan 2002 max - Mar lastThu 24:00 1:00 S The Tru64 version of the zic command is not able to process this line. # zic -d asia "asia", line 1165: invalid time of day As a crude workaround I replaced the 24:00 with 23:59, making a line that reads 1165: Rule Jordan 2002 max - Mar lastThu 23:59 1:00 S You've probably got a better way of dealing with the problem (my solution will be incorrect for one minute prior to changeover), so I'll refrain from sending a patchfile. I have encountered this problem for these versions of Tru64 * Tru64 5.1 (uname -a => OSF1 creaky.old.machine V5.1 732 alpha) * Tru64 5.1B-4 (uname -a => OSF1 a.newer.machine V5.1 2650 alpha) Regards, Nick Bishop Analyst Programmer Services Division _________________________________________ Logica Ground Floor, 436 Elgar Road Box Hill VIC 3128 Australia T: +61 3 9892 0497 (direct) F: +61 3 9898 6270 M: +61 438 366 342 E: mailto:nick.bishop@logica.com http://www.logica.com Please help Logica to respect the environment by not printing this email / Pour contribuer comme Logica au respect de l'environnement, merci de ne pas imprimer ce mail / Bitte drucken Sie diese Nachricht nicht aus und helfen Sie so Logica dabei, die Umwelt zu schützen. / Por favor ajude a Logica a respeitar o ambiente nao imprimindo este correio electronico. This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.

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Timezone files - Tru64
by Bishop, Nick Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

Hi, The timezone files from ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ are useful for systems at end of life. Thanks. May I draw your attention to this line in the @(#)asia 8.41 file from tzdata2009n.tar.gz: 1165: Rule Jordan 2002 max - Mar lastThu 24:00 1:00 S The Tru64 version of the zic command is not able to process this line. # zic -d asia "asia", line 1165: invalid time of day As a crude workaround I replaced the 24:00 with 23:59, making a line that reads 1165: Rule Jordan 2002 max - Mar lastThu 23:59 1:00 S You've probably got a better way of dealing with the problem (my solution will be incorrect for one minute prior to changeover), so I'll refrain from sending a patchfile. I have encountered this problem for these versions of Tru64 * Tru64 5.1 (uname -a => OSF1 creaky.old.machine V5.1 732 alpha) * Tru64 5.1B-4 (uname -a => OSF1 a.newer.machine V5.1 2650 alpha) Regards, Nick Bishop Analyst Programmer Services Division _________________________________________ Logica Ground Floor, 436 Elgar Road Box Hill VIC 3128 Australia T: +61 3 9892 0497 (direct) F: +61 3 9898 6270 M: +61 438 366 342 E: mailto:nick.bishop@logica.com http://www.logica.com Please help Logica to respect the environment by not printing this email / Pour contribuer comme Logica au respect de l'environnement, merci de ne pas imprimer ce mail / Bitte drucken Sie diese Nachricht nicht aus und helfen Sie so Logica dabei, die Umwelt zu schützen. / Por favor ajude a Logica a respeitar o ambiente nao imprimindo este correio electronico. This e-mail and any attachment is for authorised use by the intended recipient(s) only. It may contain proprietary material, confidential information and/or be subject to legal privilege. It should not be copied, disclosed to, retained or used by, any other party. If you are not an intended recipient then please promptly delete this e-mail and any attachment and all copies and inform the sender. Thank you.

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[Fwd: Re: [Question #68852]: Ottawa not listed in time zone cities?]
by Norm MacNeil Oct. 5, 2009

Oct. 5, 2009

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Bangladesh government will continue DST until further announcement.
by Alexander Krivenyshev Oct. 4, 2009

Oct. 4, 2009

Bangladesh government said it would continue DST until further announcement. Minister rules out DST change http://bdnews24.com/details.php?id=144065&cid=2 or http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_bangladesh04.html Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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tz-art.htm
by msb＠vex.net Oct. 2, 2009

Oct. 2, 2009

I am not on the TZ mailing list. Please direct responses appropriately. * The 1953 railway comedy movie "The Titfield Thunderbolt" includes a play on words on British Double Summer Time. Valentine's wife wants him to leave the pub and asks him, "Do you know what time it is?" And he, happy where he is, replies: "Yes, my love. Summer double time." IMDB page: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0046436/ * The premise of the 1999 caper movie "Entrapment" involves computers in an international banking network being shut down briefly at midnight in each time zone to avoid any problems at the transition from the year 1999 to 2000 in that zone. (Hmmmm.) If this shutdown is extended by 10 seconds, it will create a one-time opportunity for a gigantic computerized theft. To achieve this, at one location the crooks interfere with the microwave system supplying time signals to the computer, advancing the time by 0.1 second each minute over the last hour of 1999. (So this movie teaches us that 0.1 x 60 = 10.) IMDB page: http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0137494/ And while I'm writing: the item about "A Matter of Life and Death" is missing the word "movie" or similar, and does not mention its other title, which it's known by in the US: "Stairway to Heaven". -- Mark Brader, Toronto | "In cyberspace, the lunatics not only run the asylum, msb(a)vex.net | but they helped build it..." --Richard Kadrey

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Clock changes on the first in Pakistan or Bangladesh?
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Oct. 1, 2009

Oct. 1, 2009

Can anyone with boots on the ground in Pakistan or Bangladesh report on what actually happened to clocks there the morning of the first? Thanks for any light you can shed. --ado

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proposed time zone package changes: Pakistan DST end; Argentina comment
by Arthur David Olson Sept. 28, 2009

Sept. 28, 2009

Below find proposed time zone packages for "asia" (end of DST in Pakistan in 2009, as provided by Petr Machata with very slight normalization) and "southamerica" (adding comments on the situation in Argentina for 2009-2010 from Alexander Krivenyshev and yours truly). If no problems are found, expect these changes to show up in the ftpable archive on 2009-09-28. --ado ------- asia ------- *** /tmp/geta29860 Tue Sep 22 15:05:39 2009 --- /tmp/getb29860 Tue Sep 22 15:05:39 2009 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)asia 8.40 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)asia 8.41 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 1674,1681 **** # advance clocks in the country by one hour from April 15 to # conserve energy" ! # From Arthur David Olson (2009-04-10): ! # Assume for now that Pakistan will end DST in 2009 as it did in 2008. # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Pakistan 2002 only - Apr Sun>=2 0:01 1:00 S --- 1674,1688 ---- # advance clocks in the country by one hour from April 15 to # conserve energy" ! # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-09-17): ! # "The News International," Pakistan reports that: "The Federal ! # Government has decided to restore the previous time by moving the ! # clocks backward by one hour from October 1. A formal announcement to ! # this effect will be made after the Prime Minister grants approval in ! # this regard." ! # <a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=87168"> ! # http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=87168 ! # </a> # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Pakistan 2002 only - Apr Sun>=2 0:01 1:00 S *************** *** 1683,1689 **** Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Nov 1 0:00 0 - Rule Pakistan 2009 only - Apr 15 0:00 1:00 S ! Rule Pakistan 2009 only - Nov 1 0:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Asia/Karachi 4:28:12 - LMT 1907 5:30 - IST 1942 Sep --- 1690,1696 ---- Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Pakistan 2008 only - Nov 1 0:00 0 - Rule Pakistan 2009 only - Apr 15 0:00 1:00 S ! Rule Pakistan 2009 only - Oct 1 0:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Asia/Karachi 4:28:12 - LMT 1907 5:30 - IST 1942 Sep ------- southamerica ------- *** /tmp/geta29962 Tue Sep 22 15:13:41 2009 --- /tmp/getb29962 Tue Sep 22 15:13:41 2009 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)southamerica 8.36 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)southamerica 8.37 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 397,403 **** --- 397,433 ---- # is that "The province will most likely follow the next daylight saving schedule, # which is planned for the second Sunday in October." + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-09-19): + # Some Argentinian Provinces (Buenos Aires, Entre Ríos) are opposing to the + # Daylight Saving Time for the 2009-2010 season. # + # (Spanish) + # "El cambio de huso horario en Entre Ríos deberá ser aprobado por la + # Legislatura": + # <a href="http://www.analisisdigital.com.ar/noticias.php?ed=1&di=0&no=110168"> + # http://www.analisisdigital.com.ar/noticias.php?ed=1&di=0&no=110168 + # </a> + # English translation - "The time zone change in Entre Rios must be approved by + # the Legislature." + # + # (Spanish) + # "Mar del Plata no quiere cambiar la hora." + # <a href="http://www.mensajeroweb.com.ar/index.php?x=nota/33861/1/mar-del-plata-no-qu…"> + # http://www.mensajeroweb.com.ar/index.php?x=nota/33861/1/mar-del-plata-no-qu… + # </a> + # English translation - "Mar del Plata is not to change the time" + # + # or + # (some English translation) + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_argentina07.html"> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_argentina07.html + # </a> + + # From Arthur David Olson (2009-09-22): + # "Mar del Plata no quiere cambiar la hora" translates to + # "Mar del Plata doesn't want to change the time" + # (less definitive than "is not to"). + # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] # # Buenos Aires (BA), Capital Federal (CF),

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FW: days difference software
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Sept. 27, 2009

Sept. 27, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Mike Berger, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: news [mailto:news@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 11:01 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: days difference software I am looking for software in C or C++ for use in a Linux system that computes the number of days between two dates. It must work at lease from 1900 to present. Thanks for your advice,. Mike.

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days difference software
by Mike -- EMAIL IGNORED Sept. 25, 2009

Sept. 25, 2009

I am looking for software in C or C++ for use in a Linux system that computes the number of days between two dates. It must work at lease from 1900 to present. Thanks for your advice,. Mike.

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FW: Successor for the TZ database
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Sept. 23, 2009

Sept. 23, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Rami Goraly, who was not on the time zone mailing list when it was sent (Rami has since subscribed). --ado From: Rami Goraly [mailto:rami@scheduleonce.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 To: Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Subject: Successor for the TZ database Hi David, Please allow me to introduce myself. I am the founder of ScheduleOnce (www.scheduleonce.com) and www.daylight-savings-time.info It came to my attention that you are looking for a successor to manage the database and I wanted to have an initial discussion to explore if this is something that we may want to take on. I look forward to hearing from you. Best Regards, Rami -- Rami Goraly | ScheduleOnce | rami(a)scheduleonce.com Phone: +972.54.460.0194 www.scheduleonce.com

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FW: I found a broken link on your page: http://web.mit.edu/~netbsd/src/lib/libc/time/tz-link.htm
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Sept. 23, 2009

Sept. 23, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Caitlin Walters, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: caitlin(a)studentsandteachers.org [mailto:caitlin@studentsandteachers.org] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:51 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: I found a broken link on your page: http://web.mit.edu/~netbsd/src/lib/libc/time/tz-link.htm Hi, I'm sorry to bother you, but my name is Caitlin Walters and I'm a Geography Teacher in a small school in New England. While I was doing some research in preparing a lesson plan, I noticed that on this page...http://web.mit.edu/~netbsd/src/lib/libc/time/tz-link.htm, you have a link to http://www.phys.uu.nl/~vgent/idl/idl.htm. I don't think that page exists any longer, or maybe the site was down when I tried it. In my research I found this page...http://www.watch-inc.com/articles/historyoftheinternational.html, which has some very good resources and information on the international date line. I think it could make a good addition, or replacement of the link that didn't work, for your page. Hope this helps and sorry again to be a bother. Thanks! Caitlin :)

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Pakistan turns back clocks on October 1
by Steffen Thorsen Sept. 22, 2009

Sept. 22, 2009

"The News International", Pakistan reports that: "The Federal Government has decided to restore the previous time by moving the clocks backward by one hour from October 1. A formal announcement to this effect will be made after the Prime Minister grants approval in this regard." http://www.thenews.com.pk/updates.asp?id=87168 We will keep this page updated, as we get more info and the formal announcement: http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/pakistan-ends-dst09.html Best regards, Steffen - timeanddate.com

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I found a broken link on your page: http://web.mit.edu/~netbsd/src/lib/libc/time/tz-link.htm
by caitlin＠studentsandteachers.org Sept. 21, 2009

Sept. 21, 2009

Hi, I'm sorry to bother you, but my name is Caitlin Walters and I'm a Geography Teacher in a small school in New England. While I was doing some research in preparing a lesson plan, I noticed that on this page...http://web.mit.edu/~netbsd/src/lib/libc/time/tz-link.htm, you have a link to http://www.phys.uu.nl/~vgent/idl/idl.htm. I don't think that page exists any longer, or maybe the site was down when I tried it. In my research I found this page...http://www.watch-inc.com/articles/historyoftheinternational.html, which has some very good resources and information on the international date line. I think it could make a good addition, or replacement of the link that didn't work, for your page. Hope this helps and sorry again to be a bother. Thanks! Caitlin :)

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Argentinian Provinces (Buenos Aires, Entre Ríos) are opposing DST 2009-2010
by Alexander Krivenyshev Sept. 19, 2009

Sept. 19, 2009

Some Argentinian Provinces (Buenos Aires, Entre Ríos) are opposing to the Daylight Saving Time for the 2009-2010 season. (Spanish) "El cambio de huso horario en Entre Ríos deberá ser aprobado por la Legislatura": http://www.analisisdigital.com.ar/noticias.php?ed=1&di=0&no=110168 English translation - "The time zone change in Entre Rios must be approved by the Legislature." (Spanish) "Mar del Plata no quiere cambiar la hora." http://www.mensajeroweb.com.ar/index.php?x=nota/33861/1/mar-del-plata-no-qu… English translation - "Mar del Plata is not to change the time" or (some English translation) http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_argentina07.html Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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TZ project
by jrl Sept. 17, 2009

Sept. 17, 2009

Paul, I'd like to be added to the mailing list. Regards, Jamie (James Longstreet) <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/james-longstreet/14/462/940>

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New home for time zone stuff by 2012?
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Sept. 8, 2009

Sept. 8, 2009

I'll be eligible to start drawing a pension in mid-2012. Since I'm accustomed to slow-moving Quaker process, that makes it time to get serious about finding a new home for time zone stuff. There are several pieces of the puzzle (some of which haven't seen much work of late): Data maintenance Data distribution Code maintenance Code distribution Mailing list maintenance Mailing list hosting Standards work (for example, tweaking POSIX TZ environment variables so Godthab can be represented) Code enhancement (for example, year zero work and Julian calendar work) There are different types of landing place: Governmental organizations Non-governmental organizations Commercial entities Volunteers Everything could be moved under one new roof or different pieces might go different places. While I'm happy to continue time zone work in the future, I also understand that it may be best for others to do the work. Anyone? Bueller? --ado

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tzdata2009m.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Sept. 8, 2009

Sept. 8, 2009

The file... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009m.tar.gz ...is now available; it reflects the Samoa and Palestine changes circulated last week on the time zone mailing list. --ado

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