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Re: [tz] Anecdotal discrepancy for Navajo nation in Arizona
by Steve Jones May 25, 2016

May 25, 2016

At 10:53 PM 5/24/2016, Brian Inglis wrote: >Federal facilities and areas within AZ are subject to federal >legislation so they too observe DST. Federal legislation deals with time zone borders, not DST observance. DST observance is a state (and Indian) matter. Only AZ and HI have decided not to observe. Federal facilities located in those states therefore do not observe DST. Everything from national parks to post offices to federal polling places. Indian nations are deemed to have similar authority - and that it supersedes that of the state in which they are located. So on reservation lands the Navajo decision to observe DST trumps the AZ decision not to. Federal facilities inside the Navajo reservation observe time per the Navajo authority instead of the AZ authority. There are also exceptions to federal facilities deviating from official local time. The only one I knew of before today was Guadalupe Mountains National Park, which observes Mountain time despite being mostly located in the Central time zone. Today I learned of the Dangling Rope Marina exception. Regards, Steve Jones Emacs!

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Re: [tz] Anecdotal discrepancy for Navajo nation in Arizona
by Sterling Udell May 25, 2016

May 25, 2016

> Federal facilities and areas within AZ are subject to federal > legislation so they too observe DST. That's not correct. I'm currently at Pipe Spring National Monument (a federal facility in AZ), and despite being just a few miles from the Utah border, it follows the bulk of AZ in *not* observing DST. I can tell you the same is true for Grand Canyon National Park, Petrified Forest NP, Organ Pipe Cactus NP, and other NPS locations here. On the other hand, Hubbell Trading Post National Historic Site - which is surrounded by the Navajo reservation - follows the Navajo in observing DST. In general, NPS sites in Arizona observe the time of their surrounding areas. I would strongly expect that the same is true for other federal facilities in Phoenix, Tucson, or wherever - it would just be too disruptive for the time zone to be different in a single building.

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Re: [tz] Anecdotal discrepancy for Navajo nation in Arizona
by Steve Jones May 25, 2016

May 25, 2016

At 05:55 PM 5/24/2016, Arthur David Olson wrote: > > ...it might be worth checking if anyone has any sources inside > the Navajo nation. > >The source used back in 1987 (using--ahem--snail mail) was the Inter >Tribal Council of Arizona: <http://itcaonline.com/>http://itcaonline.com/. A very complex area: From http://ontimezone.com/exceptions.php: Even though Arizona does not observe Daylight Saving Time, the Navajo Indian Reservation (which takes up most of northeastern AZ) does observe DST. To add to the confusion, the Hopi Indian Reservation, which is wholly enclosed within the Navajo Reservation, does NOT observe DST. Confused? We're just getting started. * Consider also that the Navajos have an enclave containing the village of Jeddito, entirely within the Hopi reservation. And that the Hopi reservation has an exclave at Moenkopi, just south of Tuba City. Still not confused? * Some of the businesses in Tuba city (within the Navajo Reservation) reportedly do not observe Daylight Saving time, so as to avoid confusing the tourists. Good luck with that. At least that puts them in sync with their Hopi neighbors across highway 160 in Moenkopi. Got it? http://ontimezone.com/images/az_tribal.php Emacs! Steve Jones Emacs!

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Re: [tz] tz Digest, Vol 56, Issue 13
by Uri Ramirez May 23, 2016

May 23, 2016

Help On May 23, 2016 5:00 AM, <tz-request(a)iana.org> wrote: > Send tz mailing list submissions to > tz(a)iana.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/tz > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tz-request(a)iana.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tz-owner(a)iana.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of tz digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Morocco confirms Ramadan DST dates (Milamber) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 22 May 2016 17:18:17 +0200 > From: Milamber <milamberspace(a)gmail.com> > To: Matt Johnson <mj1856(a)hotmail.com>, Time Zone Mailing List > <tz(a)iana.org> > Subject: Re: [tz] Morocco confirms Ramadan DST dates > Message-ID: <5741CDB9.9040900(a)gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > Yes you are probably right, the arabic version seems have the good hour > (2:00 am) to the change. > Thanks. > > On 22/05/2016 04:54, Matt Johnson wrote: > > Thanks, but this appears to be a translation error. The Arabic version > on the same site says 2:00 instead of 3:00. See > http://mmsp.gov.ma/ar/actualites.aspx?id=1057 > > > > Given the history from previous years, I'm inclined to believe the > Arabic version. > > > > -Matt > > ________________________________________ > > From: Milamber <milamberspace(a)gmail.com> > > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:24 PM > > To: Matt Johnson > > Subject: Re: [tz] Morocco confirms Ramadan DST dates > > > > Hello, > > > > The official link from the Ministry of Public service and Administration > > Modernization (in French): > > > > http://mmsp.gov.ma/fr/actualites.aspx?id=1056 > > > > Google Translation: > > "Back to the standard time of the Kingdom (GMT). > > The Ministry of Public Service and Modernization of Administration > > announces the return to standard time of the Kingdom (GMT). So time will > > be delayed for 60 minutes from 3:00 am Sunday, June 5, 2016. She will be > > advanced by 60 minutes (GMT + 1) from 3:00 am Sunday, July 10, 2016." > > > > > > One question: > > > > "She will be advanced by 60 minutes (GMT + 1) from 3:00 am Sunday, July > > 10, 2016." > > > > meaning this on zdump (current tzdata)? > > > > Africa/Casablanca Sun Jul 10 01:59:59 2016 UT = Sun Jul 10 01:59:59 > > 2016 WET isdst=0 gmtoff=0 > > Africa/Casablanca Sun Jul 10 02:00:00 2016 UT = Sun Jul 10 03:00:00 > > 2016 WEST isdst=1 gmtoff=3600 > > > > At 02am go to 03am or at 03am go to 04am? > > > > Milamber > > > > > > On 19/05/2016 06:30, Matt Johnson wrote: > >> > http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/05/186863/morocco-goes-back-to-gmt-tim… > >> > >> Our guesses appear to be validated. > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > tz mailing list > tz(a)iana.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/tz > > > End of tz Digest, Vol 56, Issue 13 > ********************************** >

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Re: [tz] Morocco confirms Ramadan DST dates
by Milamber May 22, 2016

May 22, 2016

Yes you are probably right, the arabic version seems have the good hour (2:00 am) to the change. Thanks. On 22/05/2016 04:54, Matt Johnson wrote: > Thanks, but this appears to be a translation error. The Arabic version on the same site says 2:00 instead of 3:00. See http://mmsp.gov.ma/ar/actualites.aspx?id=1057 > > Given the history from previous years, I'm inclined to believe the Arabic version. > > -Matt > ________________________________________ > From: Milamber <milamberspace(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2016 3:24 PM > To: Matt Johnson > Subject: Re: [tz] Morocco confirms Ramadan DST dates > > Hello, > > The official link from the Ministry of Public service and Administration > Modernization (in French): > > http://mmsp.gov.ma/fr/actualites.aspx?id=1056 > > Google Translation: > "Back to the standard time of the Kingdom (GMT). > The Ministry of Public Service and Modernization of Administration > announces the return to standard time of the Kingdom (GMT). So time will > be delayed for 60 minutes from 3:00 am Sunday, June 5, 2016. She will be > advanced by 60 minutes (GMT + 1) from 3:00 am Sunday, July 10, 2016." > > > One question: > > "She will be advanced by 60 minutes (GMT + 1) from 3:00 am Sunday, July > 10, 2016." > > meaning this on zdump (current tzdata)? > > Africa/Casablanca Sun Jul 10 01:59:59 2016 UT = Sun Jul 10 01:59:59 > 2016 WET isdst=0 gmtoff=0 > Africa/Casablanca Sun Jul 10 02:00:00 2016 UT = Sun Jul 10 03:00:00 > 2016 WEST isdst=1 gmtoff=3600 > > At 02am go to 03am or at 03am go to 04am? > > Milamber > > > On 19/05/2016 06:30, Matt Johnson wrote: >> http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/05/186863/morocco-goes-back-to-gmt-tim… >> >> Our guesses appear to be validated. >> >

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Morocco confirms Ramadan DST dates
by Matt Johnson May 19, 2016

May 19, 2016

http://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2016/05/186863/morocco-goes-back-to-gmt-tim… Our guesses appear to be validated.

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Getting offset for each time zones
by kailash kumar May 19, 2016

May 19, 2016

Hi All, I wanted to get UTC offset for each time zone which is present under zoneinfo folder. basically I wanted to create a drop down for all timezones with UTC offset, where user can select timezone. Please let me know if it is possible to get UTC offset for all time zones in tz database. Thanks, KAILASH KUMAR JAIN Legal Warning: This message may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient or for any reason think that this message may have been address to you or reached you as a mistake, its requested that you must not disseminate,copy or take any action in reliance on it and I ask you to delete all copies from your mail box and computer system and also notify me immediately by return e-mail.

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South Australia not changing time zones, again
by Gilmore Davidson May 18, 2016

May 18, 2016

Last year saw a proposal by the South Australian government to move clocks forward 30 minutes to align with Australia's eastern states, which was discussed on this mailing list. Ultimately that proposal was rejected by the opposition after a lack of support among the general public. Now a minor party's upper house representative, Robert Brokenshire, has introduced a bill to move the clocks 30 minutes in the other direction, towards a "true" central time. This bill was resoundingly defeated by both the government and major opposition party, so the clocks will remain at UTC+09:30 for a while yet. I get the feeling this won't be the end of the discussion though. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-19/attempt-to-shift-south-australian-tim… Mr Brokenshire said he remained passionate about the idea. "I learnt a bit about arithmetic and I'm not going to actually beat the two major parties but we will be back," he said. "At an appropriate time I will bring this debate back to Parliament."

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Time Zone Database Update
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May 18, 2016

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