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Re: China time zone
by An Yang Aug. 18, 2011

Aug. 18, 2011

Dear Arthur, Thanks a lot. At first, let me show you some data: Population of Beijing in 2011 is 22,634,722, data from http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/population_of_beijing_in_2011 And population of Shanghai in 2011 is 22,447,529, data from http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/population_of_shanghai_in_2011 And of cause, you can check the population of Beijing and Shanghai in 1996, Beijing is 2,069,722, and Shanghai is 1,188,721. If your data source is http://www.world-gazetteer.com/wg.php?x=1263073253&men=gcis&lng=en&des=game… and http://www.citypopulation.de/world/Agglomerations.html What I can say, the data is wrong absolutely. The following is the data from the China Gov (Chinese only): http://www.shanghai.gov.cn/shanghai/node2314/node2319/node12344/u26ai25463.… http://www.bjstats.gov.cn/rkpc_6/pcsj/201105/t20110506_201580.htm All of these data is different, what should we trust? Let me try to explain it, frankly say, it's difficult to count the exact population of a city which have more than 20,000,000, especially in China. The population data from government, it just include the people who have the locale ID ( hukou ), do not include people without locale ID (hukou). So maybe 20-30% people lost, I think the data from http://www.trueknowledge.com is more accurate, which reflect the real number of people who live in the city. My conclusion is both Beijing and Shanghai are big city in China, and have almost the similar populations. According to the rule: Among locations with similar populations, pick the best-known location, e.g. prefer `Rome' to `Milan'. I think the best-known location is Beijing, no matter from Chinese view or from the foreigner's view. I have read all the messages about Beijing Time in ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz, and notice that all the voice from China is the same, Beijing should represent China. So trust the people who live there and use Beijing time everyday maybe the best choice. Bests, An Yang 在 2011-06-29三的 06:30 -0400，Arthur Olson写道： > I've added you to the time zone mailing list. > > You may want to check out the old mailing list archives in... > ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz > ...for past discussions of the Shanghai/Beijing matter (it does come > up every few years). > > --ado

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Changes in Chile??
by richard_gombert＠goodyear.com Aug. 18, 2011

Aug. 18, 2011

I just found out that Chile will be going on Daylight Savings Time This coming weekend. I looked back through this discussion group and I found no previous discussion of this. Sunday, August 21, 2011 at 12:00:00 Midnight clocks are turned forward 1 hour to Sunday, August 21, 2011 at 1:00:00 AM local daylight time instead According to the patch applied earlier this year it was (originally) scheduled for October 9, 2011. America/Santiago -9223372036854775808 = NULL America/Santiago -9223372036854689408 = NULL America/Santiago Sun Apr 4 02:59:59 2010 UTC = Sat Apr 3 23:59:59 2010 CLST isdst=1 gmtoff=-10800 America/Santiago Sun Apr 4 03:00:00 2010 UTC = Sat Apr 3 23:00:00 2010 CLT isdst=0 gmtoff=-14400 America/Santiago Sun Oct 10 03:59:59 2010 UTC = Sat Oct 9 23:59:59 2010 CLT isdst=0 gmtoff=-14400 America/Santiago Sun Oct 10 04:00:00 2010 UTC = Sun Oct 10 01:00:00 2010 CLST isdst=1 gmtoff=-10800 America/Santiago Sun Mar 13 02:59:59 2011 UTC = Sat Mar 12 23:59:59 2011 CLST isdst=1 gmtoff=-10800 America/Santiago Sun Mar 13 03:00:00 2011 UTC = Sat Mar 12 23:00:00 2011 CLT isdst=0 gmtoff=-14400 America/Santiago Sun Oct 9 03:59:59 2011 UTC = Sat Oct 8 23:59:59 2011 CLT isdst=0 gmtoff=-14400 America/Santiago Sun Oct 9 04:00:00 2011 UTC = Sun Oct 9 01:00:00 2011 CLST isdst=1 gmtoff=-10800 America/Santiago 9223372036854689407 = NULL America/Santiago 9223372036854775807 = NULL ========================================================================= Richard Gombert Senior Technical Specialist Manufacturing Systems and Infrastructure 330.796.4036 GTN: 447-4036 Mailing address: PO Box 3531 (200 S Martha Ave) Akron, OH 44309-3531 Shipping address: Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. Receiving D/530A, Bldg. 72 Attn: Richard Gombert, D/450D 1376 Tech Way Drive Akron, Ohio 44306 Contains Confidential and/or Proprietary Information. May Not Be Copied or Disseminated Without Express Consent of The Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company =========================================================================

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proposed time zone package changes (South Sudan, Samoa, Newfoundland...)
by Arthur David Olson Aug. 17, 2011

Aug. 17, 2011

Proposed changes to the time zone package appear at the end of this message; here's the executive summary: africa Add Africa/Juba (South Sudan) zone. australasia Samoa skips over 2011-12-30 (thanks to David Zuelke and Mark Sim-Smith). europe Use KALT as abbreviation for Europe/Kalinigrad from spring 2011 forward (thanks to Yoshito Umaoka). northamerica Newfoundland changes time of day for DST start and end to 2:00 a.m. starting fall 2011 and forward (thanks to Michael Pelley). Change America/Resolute use of EST to 2006-2007 only (thanks to Chris Walton). Assume Metlakatla abandoned use of daylight saving as a result of its 1983 vote. Avoid unnecessary use of US rule in America/Honolulu; fix two typos in America/Honolulu comments. iso3166.tab Add SS (South Sudan) entry. zone.tab Change America/Resolute entry to Central Standard Time. (thanks to Chris Walton). Add SS (South Sudan, Africa/Juba) entry. Providentially South Sudan's largest is also its capital city; I hope there's no zone naming controversy. I plan to update the ftp site on 2011-08-29 with these changes (modulo any corrections provided by folks on the time zone mailing list). --ado diff -r -c old/africa new/africa *** old/africa Wed Jun 15 06:43:13 2011 --- new/africa Wed Aug 17 13:47:14 2011 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)africa 8.31 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)africa 8.32 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 956,961 **** --- 956,966 ---- Zone Africa/Khartoum 2:10:08 - LMT 1931 2:00 Sudan CA%sT 2000 Jan 15 12:00 3:00 - EAT + + # South Sudan + Zone Africa/Juba 2:06:24 - LMT 1931 + 2:00 Sudan CA%sT 2000 Jan 15 12:00 + 3:00 - EAT # Swaziland # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] diff -r -c old/australasia new/australasia *** old/australasia Wed Jun 15 06:53:04 2011 --- new/australasia Wed Aug 17 11:55:06 2011 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)australasia 8.23 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)australasia 8.24 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 529,540 **** # Margaret Fruean ACTING CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER MINISTRY OF COMMERCE, # INDUSTRY AND LABOUR 28th February 2011 Zone Pacific/Apia 12:33:04 - LMT 1879 Jul 5 -11:26:56 - LMT 1911 -11:30 - SAMT 1950 # Samoa Time -11:00 - WST 2010 Sep 26 -11:00 1:00 WSDT 2011 Apr 2 4:00 ! -11:00 - WST # Solomon Is # excludes Bougainville, for which see Papua New Guinea --- 529,585 ---- # Margaret Fruean ACTING CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER MINISTRY OF COMMERCE, # INDUSTRY AND LABOUR 28th February 2011 + # From David Zuelke (2011-05-09): + # Subject: Samoa to move timezone from east to west of international date line + # + # <a href="http://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/markets/newsfeeditem.aspx?id=138501958347963"> + # http://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/markets/newsfeeditem.aspx?id=138501958347963 + # </a> + + # From Mark Sim-Smith (2011-08-17): + # I have been in contact with Leilani Tuala Warren from the Samoa Law + # Reform Commission, and she has sent me a copy of the Bill that she + # confirmed has been passed...Most of the sections are about maps rather + # than the time zone change, but I'll paste the relevant bits below. But + # the essence is that at midnight 29 Dec (UTC-11 I suppose), Samoa + # changes from UTC-11 to UTC+13: + # + # International Date Line Bill 2011 + # + # AN ACT to provide for the change to standard time in Samoa and to make + # consequential amendments to the position of the International Date + # Line, and for related purposes. + # + # BE IT ENACTED by the Legislative Assembly of Samoa in Parliament + # assembled as follows: + # + # 1. Short title and commencement-(1) This Act may be cited as the + # International Date Line Act 2011. (2) Except for section 5(3) this Act + # commences at 12 o'clock midnight, on Thursday 29th December 2011. (3) + # Section 5(3) commences on the date of assent by the Head of State. + # + # [snip] + # + # 3. Interpretation - [snip] "Samoa standard time" in this Act and any + # other statute of Samoa which refers to 'Samoa standard time' means the + # time 13 hours in advance of Co-ordinated Universal Time. + # + # 4. Samoa standard time - (1) Upon the commencement of this Act, Samoa + # standard time shall be set at 13 hours in advance of Co-ordinated + # Universal Time for the whole of Samoa. (2) All references to Samoa's + # time zone and to Samoa standard time in Samoa in all legislation and + # instruments after the commencement of this Act shall be references to + # Samoa standard time as provided for in this Act. (3) Nothing in this + # Act affects the provisions of the Daylight Saving Act 2009, except that + # it defines Samoa standard time.... + Zone Pacific/Apia 12:33:04 - LMT 1879 Jul 5 -11:26:56 - LMT 1911 -11:30 - SAMT 1950 # Samoa Time -11:00 - WST 2010 Sep 26 -11:00 1:00 WSDT 2011 Apr 2 4:00 ! -11:00 - WST 2011 Dec 30 ! +13:00 - WST # Solomon Is # excludes Bougainville, for which see Papua New Guinea diff -r -c old/europe new/europe *** old/europe Wed Jun 15 07:31:00 2011 --- new/europe Wed Aug 17 12:52:01 2011 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)europe 8.33 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)europe 8.34 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 2034,2040 **** 2:00 Poland CE%sT 1946 3:00 Russia MSK/MSD 1991 Mar 31 2:00s 2:00 Russia EE%sT 2011 Mar 27 2:00s ! 3:00 - EET # # From Oscar van Vlijmen (2001-08-25): [This region consists of] # Respublika Adygeya, Arkhangel'skaya oblast', --- 2034,2040 ---- 2:00 Poland CE%sT 1946 3:00 Russia MSK/MSD 1991 Mar 31 2:00s 2:00 Russia EE%sT 2011 Mar 27 2:00s ! 3:00 - KALT # # From Oscar van Vlijmen (2001-08-25): [This region consists of] # Respublika Adygeya, Arkhangel'skaya oblast', diff -r -c old/iso3166.tab new/iso3166.tab *** old/iso3166.tab Wed Jun 15 18:41:48 2011 --- new/iso3166.tab Wed Aug 17 13:24:18 2011 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)iso3166.tab 8.9 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. # ISO 3166 alpha-2 country codes --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)iso3166.tab 8.10 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. # ISO 3166 alpha-2 country codes *************** *** 21,29 **** # # Lines beginning with `#' are comments. # ! # From Arthur David Olson (2011-06-15): ! # Resynchronized today with the ISO3116 site ! # (deleting AN and adding BQ, CW, and SX). # #country- #code country name --- 21,28 ---- # # Lines beginning with `#' are comments. # ! # From Arthur David Olson (2011-08-17): ! # Resynchronized today with the ISO3116 site (adding SS for South Sudan). # #country- #code country name *************** *** 234,239 **** --- 233,239 ---- SN Senegal SO Somalia SR Suriname + SS South Sudan ST Sao Tome & Principe SV El Salvador SX Sint Maarten diff -r -c old/northamerica new/northamerica *** old/northamerica Wed Jun 15 07:05:20 2011 --- new/northamerica Wed Aug 17 13:49:32 2011 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)northamerica 8.42 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)northamerica 8.46 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. *************** *** 468,473 **** --- 468,477 ---- # own time. I asked about daylight saving; they said it wasn't used. I # did not inquire about practices in the past. + # From Arthur David Olson (2011-08-17): + # For lack of better information, assume that Metlakatla's + # abandonment of use of daylight saving resulted from the 1983 vote. + # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone America/Juneau 15:02:19 - LMT 1867 Oct 18 -8:57:41 - LMT 1900 Aug 20 12:00 *************** *** 493,499 **** -8:00 US P%sT 1946 -8:00 - PST 1969 -8:00 US P%sT 1983 Oct 30 2:00 ! -8:00 US MeST Zone America/Yakutat 14:41:05 - LMT 1867 Oct 18 -9:18:55 - LMT 1900 Aug 20 12:00 -9:00 - YST 1942 --- 497,503 ---- -8:00 US P%sT 1946 -8:00 - PST 1969 -8:00 US P%sT 1983 Oct 30 2:00 ! -8:00 - MeST Zone America/Yakutat 14:41:05 - LMT 1867 Oct 18 -9:18:55 - LMT 1900 Aug 20 12:00 -9:00 - YST 1942 *************** *** 593,600 **** -10:30 - HST 1933 Apr 30 2:00 #Laws 1933 -10:30 1:00 HDT 1933 May 21 12:00 #Laws 1933+12 -10:30 - HST 1942 Feb 09 2:00 #Schmitt&Cox+2 ! -10:30 1:00 HDT 1945 Sep 30 2:00 #Schmitt&Fox+2 ! -10:30 US H%sT 1947 Jun 8 2:00 #Schmitt&Fox+2 -10:00 - HST # Now we turn to US areas that have diverged from the consensus since 1970. --- 597,604 ---- -10:30 - HST 1933 Apr 30 2:00 #Laws 1933 -10:30 1:00 HDT 1933 May 21 12:00 #Laws 1933+12 -10:30 - HST 1942 Feb 09 2:00 #Schmitt&Cox+2 ! -10:30 1:00 HDT 1945 Sep 30 2:00 #Schmitt&Cox+2 ! -10:30 - HST 1947 Jun 8 2:00 #Schmitt&Cox+2 -10:00 - HST # Now we turn to US areas that have diverged from the consensus since 1970. *************** *** 1163,1174 **** # From Paul Eggert (2000-10-02): # INMS (2000-09-12) says that, since 1988 at least, Newfoundland switches # at 00:01 local time. For now, assume it started in 1987. Rule StJohns 1987 only - Apr Sun>=1 0:01 1:00 D Rule StJohns 1987 2006 - Oct lastSun 0:01 0 S Rule StJohns 1988 only - Apr Sun>=1 0:01 2:00 DD Rule StJohns 1989 2006 - Apr Sun>=1 0:01 1:00 D ! Rule StJohns 2007 max - Mar Sun>=8 0:01 1:00 D ! Rule StJohns 2007 max - Nov Sun>=1 0:01 0 S # # St John's has an apostrophe, but Posix file names can't have apostrophes. # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] --- 1167,1205 ---- # From Paul Eggert (2000-10-02): # INMS (2000-09-12) says that, since 1988 at least, Newfoundland switches # at 00:01 local time. For now, assume it started in 1987. + + # From Michael Pelley (2011-08-05): + # The Government of Newfoundland and Labrador has pending changes to + # modify the hour for daylight savings time to come into effect in + # November 2011. This modification would change the time from 12:01AM to + # 2:00AM on the dates of the switches of Daylight Savings Time to/from + # Standard Time. + # + # As a matter of reference, in Canada provinces have the authority of + # setting time zone information. The legislation has passed our + # legislative body (The House of Assembly) and is awaiting the + # proclamation to come into effect. You may find this information at: + # <a href="http://www.assembly.nl.ca/legislation/sr/lists/Proclamation.htm"> + # http://www.assembly.nl.ca/legislation/sr/lists/Proclamation.htm + # </a> + # and + # search within that web page for Standard Time (Amendment) Act. The Act + # may be found at: + # <a href="http://www.assembly.nl.ca/business/bills/Bill1106.htm"> + # http://www.assembly.nl.ca/business/bills/Bill1106.htm + # </a> + # ... + # MICHAEL PELLEY | Manager of Enterprise Architecture - Solution Delivery + # Office of the Chief Information Officer Executive Council Government of + # Newfoundland & Labrador P.O. Box 8700, 40 Higgins Line, St. John's NL + # A1B 4J6 + Rule StJohns 1987 only - Apr Sun>=1 0:01 1:00 D Rule StJohns 1987 2006 - Oct lastSun 0:01 0 S Rule StJohns 1988 only - Apr Sun>=1 0:01 2:00 DD Rule StJohns 1989 2006 - Apr Sun>=1 0:01 1:00 D ! Rule StJohns 2007 2011 - Mar Sun>=8 0:01 1:00 D ! Rule StJohns 2007 2010 - Nov Sun>=1 0:01 0 S # # St John's has an apostrophe, but Posix file names can't have apostrophes. # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] *************** *** 1178,1184 **** -3:30:52 StJohns N%sT 1935 Mar 30 -3:30 StJohns N%sT 1942 May 11 -3:30 Canada N%sT 1946 ! -3:30 StJohns N%sT # most of east Labrador --- 1209,1216 ---- -3:30:52 StJohns N%sT 1935 Mar 30 -3:30 StJohns N%sT 1942 May 11 -3:30 Canada N%sT 1946 ! -3:30 StJohns N%sT 2011 Nov ! -3:30 Canada N%sT # most of east Labrador *************** *** 1924,1944 **** # daylight saving.... # http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/2006-11/nov13_06none.html ! # From Chris Walton (2007-03-14): ! # Today I phoned the "hamlet office" to find out what Resolute was doing with ! # its clocks. # ! # The individual that answered the phone confirmed that the clocks did not ! # move at the end of daylight saving on October 29/2006. He also told me that ! # the clocks did not move this past weekend (March 11/2007).... - # From Chris Walton (2008-11-13): - # ...the residents of Resolute believe that they are changing "time zones" - # twice a year. In winter months, local time is qualified with "Eastern - # Time" which is really "Eastern Standard Time (UTC-5)". In summer - # months, local time is qualified with "Central Time" which is really - # "Central Daylight Time (UTC-5)"... - # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule NT_YK 1918 only - Apr 14 2:00 1:00 D Rule NT_YK 1918 only - Oct 27 2:00 0 S --- 1956,2025 ---- # daylight saving.... # http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/2006-11/nov13_06none.html ! # From Chris Walton (2011-03-21): ! # Back in 2007 I initiated the creation of a new "zone file" for Resolute ! # Bay. Resolute Bay is a small community located about 900km north of ! # the Arctic Circle. The zone file was required because Resolute Bay had ! # decided to use UTC-5 instead of UTC-6 for the winter of 2006-2007. # ! # According to new information which I received last week, Resolute Bay ! # went back to using UTC-6 in the winter of 2007-2008... ! # ! # On March 11/2007 most of Canada went onto daylight saving. On March ! # 14/2007 I phoned the Resolute Bay hamlet office to do a "time check." I ! # talked to somebody that was both knowledgeable and helpful. I was able ! # to confirm that Resolute Bay was still operating on UTC-5. It was ! # explained to me that Resolute Bay had been on the Eastern Time zone ! # (EST) in the winter, and was now back on the Central Time zone (CDT). ! # i.e. the time zone had changed twice in the last year but the clocks ! # had not moved. The residents had to know which time zone they were in ! # so they could follow the correct TV schedule... ! # ! # On Nov 02/2008 most of Canada went onto standard time. On Nov 03/2008 I ! # phoned the Resolute Bay hamlet office...[D]ue to the challenging nature ! # of the phone call, I decided to seek out an alternate source of ! # information. I found an e-mail address for somebody by the name of ! # Stephanie Adams whose job was listed as "Inns North Support Officer for ! # Arctic Co-operatives." I was under the impression that Stephanie lived ! # and worked in Resolute Bay... ! # ! # On March 14/2011 I phoned the hamlet office again. I was told that ! # Resolute Bay had been using Central Standard Time over the winter of ! # 2010-2011 and that the clocks had therefore been moved one hour ahead ! # on March 13/2011. The person I talked to was aware that Resolute Bay ! # had previously experimented with Eastern Standard Time but he could not ! # tell me when the practice had stopped. ! # ! # On March 17/2011 I searched the Web to find an e-mail address of ! # somebody that might be able to tell me exactly when Resolute Bay went ! # off Eastern Standard Time. I stumbled on the name "Aziz Kheraj." Aziz ! # used to be the mayor of Resolute Bay and he apparently owns half the ! # businesses including "South Camp Inn." This website has some info on ! # Aziz: ! # <a href="http://www.uphere.ca/node/493"> ! # href="http://www.uphere.ca/node/493 ! # </a> ! # ! # I sent Aziz an e-mail asking when Resolute Bay had stopped using ! # Eastern Standard Time. ! # ! # Aziz responded quickly with this: "hi, The time was not changed for the ! # 1 year only, the following year, the community went back to the old way ! # of "spring ahead-fall behind" currently we are zulu plus 5 hrs and in ! # the winter Zulu plus 6 hrs" ! # ! # This of course conflicted with everything I had ascertained in November 2008. ! # ! # I sent Aziz a copy of my 2008 e-mail exchange with Stephanie. Aziz ! # responded with this: "Hi, Stephanie lives in Winnipeg. I live here, You ! # may want to check with the weather office in Resolute Bay or do a ! # search on the weather through Env. Canada. web site" ! # ! # If I had realized the Stephanie did not live in Resolute Bay I would ! # never have contacted her. I now believe that all the information I ! # obtained in November 2008 should be ignored... ! # I apologize for reporting incorrect information in 2008. # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule NT_YK 1918 only - Apr 14 2:00 1:00 D Rule NT_YK 1918 only - Oct 27 2:00 0 S *************** *** 1965,1978 **** -6:00 Canada C%sT 2000 Oct 29 2:00 -5:00 Canada E%sT # aka Qausuittuq - # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S - Rule Resolute 2006 max - Nov Sun>=1 2:00 0 ES - Rule Resolute 2007 max - Mar Sun>=8 2:00 0 CD Zone America/Resolute 0 - zzz 1947 Aug 31 # Resolute founded -6:00 NT_YK C%sT 2000 Oct 29 2:00 -5:00 - EST 2001 Apr 1 3:00 -6:00 Canada C%sT 2006 Oct 29 2:00 ! -5:00 Resolute %sT # aka Kangiqiniq Zone America/Rankin_Inlet 0 - zzz 1957 # Rankin Inlet founded -6:00 NT_YK C%sT 2000 Oct 29 2:00 --- 2046,2057 ---- -6:00 Canada C%sT 2000 Oct 29 2:00 -5:00 Canada E%sT # aka Qausuittuq Zone America/Resolute 0 - zzz 1947 Aug 31 # Resolute founded -6:00 NT_YK C%sT 2000 Oct 29 2:00 -5:00 - EST 2001 Apr 1 3:00 -6:00 Canada C%sT 2006 Oct 29 2:00 ! -5:00 - EST 2007 Mar 11 3:00 ! -6:00 Canada C%sT # aka Kangiqiniq Zone America/Rankin_Inlet 0 - zzz 1957 # Rankin Inlet founded -6:00 NT_YK C%sT 2000 Oct 29 2:00 diff -r -c old/zone.tab new/zone.tab *** old/zone.tab Wed Jun 15 18:33:42 2011 --- new/zone.tab Wed Aug 17 13:36:43 2011 *************** *** 1,5 **** # <pre> ! # @(#)zone.tab 8.45 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. # --- 1,5 ---- # <pre> ! # @(#)zone.tab 8.47 # This file is in the public domain, so clarified as of # 2009-05-17 by Arthur David Olson. # *************** *** 120,126 **** CA +4823-08915 America/Thunder_Bay Eastern Time - Thunder Bay, Ontario CA +6344-06828 America/Iqaluit Eastern Time - east Nunavut - most locations CA +6608-06544 America/Pangnirtung Eastern Time - Pangnirtung, Nunavut ! CA +744144-0944945 America/Resolute Eastern Standard Time - Resolute, Nunavut CA +484531-0913718 America/Atikokan Eastern Standard Time - Atikokan, Ontario and Southampton I, Nunavut CA +624900-0920459 America/Rankin_Inlet Central Time - central Nunavut CA +4953-09709 America/Winnipeg Central Time - Manitoba & west Ontario --- 120,126 ---- CA +4823-08915 America/Thunder_Bay Eastern Time - Thunder Bay, Ontario CA +6344-06828 America/Iqaluit Eastern Time - east Nunavut - most locations CA +6608-06544 America/Pangnirtung Eastern Time - Pangnirtung, Nunavut ! CA +744144-0944945 America/Resolute Central Standard Time - Resolute, Nunavut CA +484531-0913718 America/Atikokan Eastern Standard Time - Atikokan, Ontario and Southampton I, Nunavut CA +624900-0920459 America/Rankin_Inlet Central Time - central Nunavut CA +4953-09709 America/Winnipeg Central Time - Manitoba & west Ontario *************** *** 361,366 **** --- 361,367 ---- SN +1440-01726 Africa/Dakar SO +0204+04522 Africa/Mogadishu SR +0550-05510 America/Paramaribo + SS +0451+03136 Africa/Juba ST +0020+00644 Africa/Sao_Tome SV +1342-08912 America/El_Salvador SX +180305-0630250 America/Lower_Princes

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Which tzdata zones have complete pre-1970 history?
by Alois Treindl Aug. 17, 2011

Aug. 17, 2011

With some colleagues who are like myself interested in a complete pre-1970 timezone history in a tzdata compatible file format, I have started a project whose goals is the following: a) complete existing tzdata zone files with incomplete pre-1970 history, so that they become historically complete. b) create additional tzdata zone files which represent zones where tzdata currently fails to differentiate between areas with different pre-1970 history. The motivation for this effort is that astrology needs complete timezone histories, for each point on the globe where registered birth data are likely to exist. I am aware that the design goal of tzdata is only to represent complete and correct timezone information beginning with 1 January 1970. I do not question this design goal. Still, there is a community of tzdata users who need more than that, and who are missing an open source database with complete timezone histories. For example, Switzerland needs an extra zone Europe/Geneva to represent Geneva timezone between 1851 and 1894. Germany needs about 13 different zones to represent the timezone history of different parts of the country. The matter there is even mor complicated because Germany changed size repeatedly in the 19th and 20th century, parts were added or removed from it and assigned to other countries. By the way, it is excellent that tzdata zone names are based on cities and not on countries, as this avoids a lot of political issues. I think it would be a good start investigating for which of the approx. 400 tzdata zones the pre-1970 history can be considered complete and correct. We have no absolute reliable measure what 'complete and correct' means. But a comparison with a recent revision of Shanks/Pottenger American and International atlas would already serve to a large extent. As a working definition I propose: Those tzdata zones whose history details are equivalent or better than the corresponding history lists by Shanks & Pottenger should be considered complete and correct. ---------------------------- Example: Switzerland Switzerland is not historically complete in tzdata. tzdata zone Europe/Zurich is correct, but a separate zone Europe/Geneva is missing. The canton of Geneva had Geneva mean time 6E0915 between 1851 and the introduction of standard time on 1 June 1894 (SOURCE: GABRIEL, TRAITE DE L'HEURE DANS LE MONDE, edition 1991) Shanks/Pottenger have a separate table for this canton, but it contains a small error as well: it assigns LMT until 1894, while in fact it should be Geneva city observatory mean time (24m37s east of Greenwich) between 1851 and 1894. The error is small because this canton is not big, and the most distance any other town has from the Geneva meridian is 4 minutes of arc.

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Re: colloquium on Future of UTC
by Yann Droneaud Aug. 17, 2011

Aug. 17, 2011

Hi, Regarding this subject, the IERS is running a survey about UTC definition change. The survey was announced in the latest C bulletin (42) available at ftp://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/bulletinc.42 " IMPORTANT: After years of discussions, a proposal to fundamentally redefine UTC will come to a conclusive vote in January 2012 at the ITU-R in Geneva. This proposal would halt the intercalary adjustments known as leap seconds that maintain UTC as a form of Universal Time. The Earth Orientation Center of the IERS organizes a survey online with the objective to find out the strength of opinion for maintaining or changing the present system. Link to the questionnaire: http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc/index.php?index=questionnaire Your response is appreciated before 30 August 2011 " Regards. -- Yann Droneaud

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timezone-2010 license
by Yellow Huang 黃詠仁 (52245) Aug. 17, 2011

Aug. 17, 2011

hi David, I am CyberTAN Technology, Inc. engineer, May I ask you which license of your timezone(2010) code? because we plan to include your code into our business project. BTW, Of cause that we still follow open source rule to release our project. Best Regards, Yellow ==================================================================== This e-mail transmission originated at CyberTAN Technology, Inc., and may contain privileged or confidential information that is the property of CyberTAN and protected by law from disclosure.If you are not an intended recipient of this transmission and you received it in error, please inform the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this and all other copies of this transmission to which you have access. Thank you.

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South Sudan
by Paw Nielsen Aug. 17, 2011

Aug. 17, 2011

Now that South Sudan is represented in the iso 3166 database it would be useful to add 'Africa/Juba' time zone. Kind regards, Paw

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colloquium on Future of UTC
by Steve Allen Aug. 16, 2011

Aug. 16, 2011

On behalf of the co-chairs I announce a colloquium about the implications of possible changes to the definition of UTC which is scheduled for a vote by delegates to the Radiocommunication Assembly in January. The draft under consideration by the ITU-R would redefine the notions of time and calendar day in ways that would have broad side effects. The website for the colloquium is http://futureofutc.org/ Abstracts already received include contributions from national observatories, international agencies, geophysics and navigation communities. Software and operating systems remain underrepresented. I invite contributions from members of the time zone community and anyone who may have code, systems, or products which could be affected by changes in the definition of the radio broadcast time signals which underly them. -- Steve Allen <sla(a)ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High Street Voice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064 http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/ Hgt +250 m

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Samoa to move timezone from east to west of international date line
by David Zülke Aug. 16, 2011

Aug. 16, 2011

http://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/markets/newsfeeditem.aspx?id=138501958347963 David

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FW: Fingerprinting timezones
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Aug. 15, 2011

Aug. 15, 2011

I'm forwarding this message from Conrad Irwin, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Conrad Irwin [mailto:conrad.irwin@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 7:59 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Fingerprinting timezones Hello there, Thank you for the timezone database - it is a phenomenal resource. The problem I would like to solve is that of having to ask a user of a web-app for their timezone. While there is no way to directly query for the user's timezone, the javascript engine in their web-browser is capable of telling me the offset from UTC at any date. It seems like, by selecting some number of dates to query, I should be able to gather enough information to uniquely identify any given timezone (or at least make a very good guess for a large proportion of the user-base). Before I embarked on doing this, I wanted to ask if anyone has seen a similar attempt in the past? Are there some "gotchas" that mean that this isn't actually as feasible as I naïvely hope? Conrad

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