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Greenwich Time and Longitude
by Brian Inglis Feb. 6, 2014

Feb. 6, 2014

On 2014-02-06 03:58, David Malone wrote: > I think a version of this story is included in Derek Howse's > "Greenwich Time and Longitude" book, in relation to the shutting > down of the telegraph-based time service from Greenwich. See > here, on page 115: > > https://archive.org/details/GreenwichTime > > He even gives a reference for the story. > > David. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts(a)febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. Forwarded from comp.time.nuts - the link is to an online and downloadable document comprehensively referencing the histories of the distribution of standard times, the establishment of standard time zones, and some of the absurdities uncovered. -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis

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Re: [tz] CIA confused about Cedros Island time zone?
by Steve Jones Feb. 5, 2014

Feb. 5, 2014

At 15:48 2/5/2014, vanadovv(a)hetnet.nl wrote: >My 2 cents: >(1) Isla Cedros is part of Ensenada, Baja California ><http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Cedros>http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Cedros Correct. Baja is Pacific time, Baja Sur is mountain time. >(2) The aeroport seems to be on UTC-7 ><http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=MX00386&sch=MM10>http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=MX00386&sch=MM10 I believe there is a good chance that record is incorrect. If so it probably has its roots in the original CIA error. http://www.gcmap.com/airport/CDI shows it to be Pacific Time, UTC-8 (DST-7). I've sent an email to the two airlines that report offering charter service to the Island, seeking clarification. The airport itself appears to be just an unmanned paved airstrip, so I don't know who else to contact for confirmation. Regards, Steve Jones []

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CIA confused about Cedros Island time zone?
by vanadovv＠hetnet.nl Feb. 5, 2014

Feb. 5, 2014

Re: [tz] CIA confused about Cedros Island time zone? Steve Jones stevejones at OnTimeZone.com Sun Feb 2 23:41:18 UTC 2014 ....... That map, and the maps it was derived from (including the original source, the CIA) show Cedros Island as being UTC-7 (as if it were in Baja Sur, not Baja). The border between Baja and Baja Sur is on the 28th parallel, which lies south of Cedros Island. Baja is in the Pacific Time zone, UTC-8. Baja Sur is in the Mountain time zone, UTC-7. I find multiple references confirming that Cedros Island is part of Baja, thus UTC-8. I find no references making any allusion to the official or unofficial observed time on the island to be other than UTC-8. .... My 2 cents: (1) Isla Cedros is part of Ensenada, Baja California http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Cedros (2) The aeroport seems to be on UTC-7 http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=MX00386&sch=MM10 Oscar van Vlijmen

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CIA confused about Cedros Island time zone?
by Steve Jones Feb. 5, 2014

Feb. 5, 2014

At 07:38 2/2/2014, Arthur David Olson wrote: > From Randy Olson (no known relation), a map of solar time versus clock time: > ><https://twitter.com/randal_olson/statuses/429969774831882242>https://twitter.com/randal_olson/statuses/429969774831882242 That map, and the maps it was derived from (including the original source, the CIA) show Cedros Island as being UTC-7 (as if it were in Baja Sur, not Baja). The border between Baja and Baja Sur is on the 28th parallel, which lies south of Cedros Island. Baja is in the Pacific Time zone, UTC-8. Baja Sur is in the Mountain time zone, UTC-7. I find multiple references confirming that Cedros Island is part of Baja, thus UTC-8. I find no references making any allusion to the official or unofficial observed time on the island to be other than UTC-8. This seems to be a significant error, not I presume the type the CIA normally makes... so I am wondering if I've missed something. Thoughts? Regards, Steve Jones, St. Louis, MO Emacs!

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credit for "right" zone code
by Steve Allen Feb. 5, 2014

Feb. 5, 2014

I want to be sure to give credit where credit is due for the code that handles leap seconds in the "right" zones. The comments in tzcode indicate that Arthur David Olson and Bradley White are two who deserve credit. Are there others who have contributed to that capability? -- Steve Allen <sla(a)ucolick.org> WGS-84 (GPS) UCO/Lick Observatory--ISB Natural Sciences II, Room 165 Lat +36.99855 1156 High Street Voice: +1 831 459 3046 Lng -122.06015 Santa Cruz, CA 95064 http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/ Hgt +250 m

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question about Asia/Urumqi: why Guangdong
by Alois Treindl Feb. 2, 2014

Feb. 2, 2014

In the commentary for zone Asia/Urumqi one reads # Xin-zang Time ("Xinjiang-Tibet Time") # The Gansu counties Aksay, Anxi, Dunhuang, Subei; west Qinghai; # the Guangdong counties Xuwen, Haikang, Suixi, Lianjiang, # Zhanjiang, Wuchuan, Huazhou, Gaozhou, Maoming, Dianbai, and Xinyi; # east Tibet, including Lhasa, Chamdo, Shigaise, Jimsar, Shawan and Hutubi; # east Xinjiang, including Urumqi, Turpan, Karamay, Korla, Minfeng, Jinghe, # Wusu, Qiemo, Xinyan, Wulanwusu, Jinghe, Yumin, Tacheng, Tuoli, Emin, # Shihezi, Changji, Yanqi, Heshuo, Tuokexun, Tulufan, Shanshan, Hami, # Fukang, Kuitun, Kumukuli, Miquan, Qitai, and Turfan. Question: what is the rationale for having the Guangdong counties listed for this zone? Guangdong is the province around Hongkong, with latitude around 20n and longitude around 115e. This is geographically very far away from east Tibet and east Xinjiang, altitude around 40n and loangitude less than 82e. What is the source for listing Guangdong here? I presume that this is an error.

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[PATCH] Mention Maggiolo's map of solar vs standard time.
by Paul Eggert Feb. 2, 2014

Feb. 2, 2014

* tz-link.htm: Add URL and description. (Thanks to Arthur David Olson.) * NEWS: Document this. --- NEWS | 3 +++ tz-link.htm | 6 +++++- 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/NEWS b/NEWS index 46b0160..bbc2b74 100644 --- a/NEWS +++ b/NEWS @@ -30,6 +30,9 @@ Unreleased, experimental changes CLDR data is available in both XML and JSON form. + Mention Maggiolo's map of solar vs standard time. + (Thanks to Arthur David Olson.) + Update two links. (Thanks to Oscar van Vlijmen.) Fix some formatting glitches, e.g., remove random newlines from diff --git a/tz-link.htm b/tz-link.htm index 57ada61..596a82a 100644 --- a/tz-link.htm +++ b/tz-link.htm @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ <meta http-equiv="Content-type" content='text/html; charset="US-ASCII"'> <meta name="DC.Creator" content="Eggert, Paul"> <meta name="DC.Contributor" content="Olson, Arthur David"> -<meta name="DC.Date" content="2014-01-30"> +<meta name="DC.Date" content="2014-02-02"> <meta name="DC.Description" content="Sources of information about time zones and daylight saving time"> <meta name="DC.Identifier" @@ -429,6 +429,10 @@ has several fancy time zone maps; it covers Russia particularly well. The maps' pictorial quality is not quite as good as the <abbr>CIA</abbr>'s but the maps are more up to date.</li> +<li><a href="http://poisson.phc.unipi.it/~maggiolo/index.php/2014/01/how-much-is-time-wr…">How +much is time wrong around the world?</a> maps the difference between +mean solar and standard time, highlighting areas such as western China +where the two differ greatly.</li> </ul> <h2>Time zone boundaries</h2> <ul> -- 1.8.3.2

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URL change OvV
by vanadovv＠hetnet.nl Jan. 29, 2014

Jan. 29, 2014

Hello! I would like to inform you that my timezone pages will move from telfort.nl to kpn.nl. Two of my pages are listed on tz-link.htm, part of the TZ distribution. (1) href="http://home.telfort.nl/~t876506/TZworld.html" Complete timezone information for all countries - displays tables of DST rules. New URL: http://home.kpn.nl/vanadovv/time/TZworld.html (2) href="http://home.telfort.nl/~t876506/Multizones.html" Time zone boundaries for multizone countries - summarizes legal boundaries between time zones within countries. New URL: http://home.kpn.nl/vanadovv/time/Multizones.html The move is in effect as of now. My web site at telfort.nl will be shut down per 01 Feb. 2014. Please change your bookmarks and references. Thanks! Oscar van Vlijmen

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Europe/Pristina
by Morgan Sowden Jan. 28, 2014

Jan. 28, 2014

Hi There, Apologies if this issue has already been raised, but I couldn't find any references in the mailing list's archives. We run a high traffic website and have just updated it so that we can send out emails at the time set by the user. We thus implemented PyTZ as we have users from all over the world. We included Kosovo as a country in our country list (requested by some users) but there is no matching timezone for it in the DB. We're assuming that the convention would dictate the one should add "Europe/Pristina" (the capital) and then it could use the same rules as for "Europe/Belgrade" or "Europe/Tirana" regarding the setting of time. There is no official ISO code for Kosovo yet, though KS seems to be evolving as a standard. Feedback welcome. Kind Regards

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Correct Time in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan
by Keith Jones Jan. 27, 2014

Jan. 27, 2014

To Whom It May Concern, If you have the authority to make changes to the time zone database or know who does have the authority, please be informed that Jordan's time is now the same as Eastern European Standard Time. The government of Jordan decided this year (last year, too) to not follow Daylight Savings Time, but then after much pressure from many sides and some unfortunate events decided to change time (this happened December 19/20). Unfortunately, computers and devices relying on automatic times and zones have yet to make this adjustment. If you could help correct this, certainly hundreds of thousands and probably millions would be very grateful. Thank you! Keith Jones Amman, Jordan PS - Strange thing... an older IPhone 3GS running 6.1.3 (10B329) gets the time right, but our iPhone 5's and iPads running iOS 7.?? are off and hour. Strange.

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