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Gaza in 2013 -- anything official?
by Petr Machata Feb. 20, 2013

Feb. 20, 2013

Hi there, timeanddate.com lists for Gaza in 2013 what appears to be extension of 2012 rules[1]. The pattern in the last several years has been mostly that there is no pattern. The dates were all over the place, Ramadan even kicked in once. I take it that the dates at [1] are simply a guess, but by any chance, does anyone have an information about what should the rules in 2013 be? [1] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/clockchange.html?n=702 Thanks, PM

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Official information about Chile daytime changes
by Felipe Sologuren Feb. 18, 2013

Feb. 18, 2013

http://www.horaoficial.cl/cambio.htm http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es-419&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2F… -- Felipe Sologuren Newtenberg.com

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Chile DST extended
by Steffen Thorsen Feb. 17, 2013

Feb. 17, 2013

According to several news sources, Chile has extended DST this year, they will end DST later and start DST earlier than planned. They hope to save energy. The new end date is 2013-04-28 00:00 and new start date is 2013-09-08 00:00. One such news source: http://www.elboyaldia.cl/node/21913 Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com

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Chile time changes announced
by Glenn Eychaner Feb. 15, 2013

Feb. 15, 2013

http://www.diarioeldia.cl/articulo/entregan-fechas-cambio-hora-este-2013 http://www.emol.com/noticias/economia/2013/02/15/584242/horario-de-invierno… http://papel.doe.cl/20130215/ In short, the clocks will go back at the midnight between Saturday the 27th and Sunday the 28th of April, and forward the midnight between Saturday the 7th and Sunday the 8th of September. Added two additional links to the more widely read El Mercurio, and to the Diario Oficial (flash-app) for 15 Feb, which conatins the actual text of the Decreto Supremo and clarifies that indeed this change is for this year only yet again. I will prepare a patch Monday if no one else does so first. -G. -- Glenn Eychaner (geychaner(a)lco.cl) Telescope Systems Programmer, Las Campanas Observatory

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Chile time changes announced
by Glenn Eychaner Feb. 15, 2013

Feb. 15, 2013

http://www.diarioeldia.cl/articulo/entregan-fechas-cambio-hora-este-2013 In short, the clocks will go back at the midnight between Saturday the 27th and Sunday the 28th of April, and forward the midnight between Saturday the 7th and Sunday the 8th of September. I will prepare a patch Monday if no one else does so first. -G. -- Glenn Eychaner (geychaner(a)lco.cl) Telescope Systems Programmer, Las Campanas Observatory

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[Chile] DST dates changed (again)
by Juan Correa Feb. 15, 2013

Feb. 15, 2013

It's been just published the official decree, stating new dates for the end and start of DST Daylight Saving time will end on "last saturday of april at 24:00" (27/Apr) and shall start on "first saturday of september" (07/Sep) at the same hour. Also, the decree says these rules will be valid only on 2013 Source: Decreto 153/2013, Ministerio del Interior y Seguridad Pública (LeyChile: www.leychile.cl/Consulta/m/norma_plana?idNorma=1048851&org=bleyes_r%3Ft_n%3…, in Spanish)

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Change 2013 timezone rules for Chile
by Felipe Sologuren Feb. 15, 2013

Feb. 15, 2013

http://www.minenergia.cl/ministerio/noticias/generales/gobierno-anuncia-fec… -- Felipe Sologuren Newtenberg.com

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Re: [tz] TZ file comments UTF-8?
by Shawn Steele Feb. 14, 2013

Feb. 14, 2013

> With that, I hope that you will quickly find UTF-8 perfectly acceptable now in source code. > Markus > i prefer plain ascii because i get trouble from time to time with mixed code > documentation. (last week some wired 16bit thing). being conservative seems > the most practical way. > wh I'd prefer UTF-8 if there's non-ASCII information to be had. Opening in an ASCII editor ASCII would just lose that extra information for whomever was using an ASCII editor, whereas forcing ASCII on the file loses that information for everyone. When I open UTF-8 in a non-UTF-8 editor, I can usually glean the content and just ignore the few mojibake-y characters. (Either that or convert everything to XML so that there's a good escaping mechanism so the file's still parsable and readable, which would be far more breaking). -Shawn

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Fw: Asia/Jakarta timezone acronym is misleading [RECAP]
by Benny Feb. 14, 2013

Feb. 14, 2013

Sorry if this topic has been discussed many times before: [1] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2002-February/011863.html Indonesia time zones [2] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2002-March/011897.html indonesia time zone correction [3] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.glibc/8955/focus=283 [4] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2008-November/015288.html Incorrect time zone abbreviations for Indonesia [5] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2009-April/015565.html Jakarta is Indonesia West Time Not Central Time [6] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2009-May/015626.html [7] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2009-May/015627.html [8] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2009-May/015628.html [9] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2009-May/015629.html [10] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2009-May/015633.html and elsewhere Arthur David Olson[6] commented: The challenge here is that abbreviations of English-language names are used consistently for time zones around the globe. For Indonesia we have abbreviations WIT (Western Indonesian Time), CIT (Central Indonesian Time), and EIT (Eastern Indonesian Time). Improvidently, one of these English-language abbreviations (WIT) is also the native-language abbreviation of a different time zone. There's been discussion on the mailing list in the past about abbreviations; past consensus was that producing native-language abbreviations was an internationalization matter rather than a time zone matter. A case could be made for translating the native time zone names (Waktu Indonesia Barat, Waktu Indonesia Tengah, and Waktu Indonesia Timur) into English and using abbreviations based on the translated names. While I understand the need for English abbreviation, but in Indonesian case, it's misleading and thus have an undesirable effect, that is confusing to some people that's not aware that the acronym is in English. As for the Indonesian acronym, I think there's no question anymore about its validity (attested by http://time.kim.lipi.go.id/, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indonesia, and others) As for the English names, I propose they're changed into Western Time of Indonesia (WTI), Central Time of Indonesia (CTI), Eastern Time of Indonesia (CTI). According to http://www.statoids.com/tid.html the English equivalent (translation) are: Western Indonesia Standard Time (WIST), Central Indonesia Standard Time (CIST), Eastern Indonesia Standard Time (EIST). Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_in_Indonesia#Historical_usage) noted on the history of [[Time in Indonesia]]: Jakarta Standard Time (JST), Bali Standard Time (BST), Jayapura Time (JT) respectively. Tim Diggins[8] asked and replied by Robert Elz[9]: | Maybe I'm missing something - can someone explain what the | abbreviations are used for They're just part of the standard output data that the ctime() related functions are expected to provide. As you noted, the abbreviations themselves are essentially useless, and applications using them for any more than decoration are generally broken, but what applications decide to do is outside our control. A TZ abbreviation has been available from libc essentially forever, and we need to keep on providing one. But in our case with Wikipedia, it's not just for decoration purposes. As you might already know, Wikipedia translated the interface into many languages, and in the case of Indonesian Wikipedias (there are many editions of them), the discussion in article talk pages and user talk pages are done by people who left their signatures (name and timestamp), which carries the aforementioned "WIT", and has led to some unexplained confusion. Therefore we're asking it to be changed if possible. ___________________ Regards, benny ________________________________ From: Benny <bknliem(a)yahoo.com> To: "tz(a)iana.org" <tz(a)iana.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:17 PM Subject: [tz] Asia/Jakarta timezone acronym is misleading The acronym used in Asia/Jakarta timezone is WIT (Western Indonesian Time), where in Indonesian language, WIT means Waktu Indonesia Timur (Eastern Indonesian Time), so it's rather confusing, especially if the conversation (say in Indonesian Wikipedia) is done in Indonesian language, and the user add a signature with the timemark, it will assume WIT is the Indonesian abbreviation, which is of course not. Noted in: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44758 First noted in: http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=791 (2005) ___________________ Regards, benny

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Busingen revisited
by Arthur David Olson Feb. 14, 2013

Feb. 14, 2013

With the new year, a revised attempt to handle the German exclave of Busingen (which followed Zurich rather than Berlin in 1980). These changes are relative to the latest github.com/eggert/tz versions; they are both below (with tabs mangled) and attached. --ado *** old/europe 2013-01-07 08:05:19.093905100 -0500 --- europe 2013-01-07 08:13:01.260316900 -0500 *************** *** 1239,1244 **** --- 1239,1265 ---- 1:00 Germany CE%sT 1980 1:00 EU CE%sT + # From Tobias Conradi (2011-09-12): + # The German enclave of Büsingen + # <a href=http://www.buesingen.de> + # (http://www.buesingen.de) + # </a> + # surrounded by the Swiss canton Schaffhausen, + # did not start observing DST in 1980 as the rest of DE + # (West Germany at that time) and DD (East Germany at that time) did. + # DD merged into DE, the area is currently covered by code DE in ISO 3166-1, + # which in turn is covered by the zone Europe/Berlin. + # + # Source for the time in Büsingen 1980: + # <a href=" http://www.videoportal.sf.tv/video?id=c012c029-03b7-4c2b-9164-aa5902cd58d3"> + # http://www.videoportal.sf.tv/video?id=c012c029-03b7-4c2b-9164-aa5902cd58d3 + # </a> + + # From Arthur David Olson (2012-03-03): + # Büsingen and Zurich have shared clocks since 1970. + + Link Europe/Zurich Europe/Busingen + # Georgia # Please see the "asia" file for Asia/Tbilisi. # Herodotus (Histories, IV.45) says Georgia north of the Phasis (now Rioni) *** old/zone.tab 2013-01-07 08:05:21.511909300 -0500 --- zone.tab 2013-01-07 08:18:15.587807500 -0500 *************** *** 159,165 **** CX -1025+10543 Indian/Christmas CY +3510+03322 Asia/Nicosia CZ +5005+01426 Europe/Prague ! DE +5230+01322 Europe/Berlin DJ +1136+04309 Africa/Djibouti DK +5540+01235 Europe/Copenhagen DM +1518-06124 America/Dominica --- 159,166 ---- CX -1025+10543 Indian/Christmas CY +3510+03322 Asia/Nicosia CZ +5005+01426 Europe/Prague ! DE +5230+01322 Europe/Berlin Germany except Busingen ! DE +4742+00841 Europe/Busingen Busingen Germany DJ +1136+04309 Africa/Djibouti DK +5540+01235 Europe/Copenhagen DM +1518-06124 America/Dominica

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