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Request for change to the tz database
by Nadia Kobyliak Feb. 9, 2021

Feb. 9, 2021

Dear Arthur and Paul, I would like to draw your attention to one of the names of the UTC+2 time zone: Europe/Kiev . And suggest changing it to Europe/Kyiv. This name is derived from the name of Ukrainian capital “Київ”. Its official transliteration(1) is “Kyiv” and not “Kiev”. The transliteration “Kyiv” was approved by the Tenth United Nations Conference on Standardization of Geographical Names(2). This is a warranty of the campaign KyivNotKiev launched by Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine(3). This is a very important issue for Ukrainians in establishing our national identity in times of an armed conflict and hybrid war by propaganda and misinformation. “To appreciate the significance of the “Kyiv vs. Kiev” debate, one must first step back and view it in terms of the deep-rooted national identity crisis caused by centuries of Tsarist and Soviet russification.” (4) It would make a huge difference if you considered this suggestion! And please let me know, if there is something else I should do to substantiate this proposal. References: 1. According to the rules approved by Governmental decree from 27 January 2010 №55: https://www.kmu.gov.ua/npas/243262567 This particular example could be found there. 2. Resolution X/9. Romanization of Ukrainian geographical names could be found in the Report of the Conference: https://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/UNGEGN/docs/10th-uncsgn-docs/econf/E_CO… Document approved by the resolution: “Romanization System in Ukraine” https://unstats.un.org/unsd/geoinfo/UNGEGN/docs/10th-uncsgn-docs/econf/E_CO… 1. It may also be interesting for you to find out more about the movement on Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KyivNotKiev 2. An article on this matter in English could be found on Atlantic Council web-site: https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/kyiv-not-kiev-why-spelli… Kind regards, Nadia Kobyliak [Изображение выглядит как знак Автоматически созданное описание] Nadia Kobyliak Senior project manager SOEs and Corporate Governance reform ________________________________ cell.: +38 097 642 35 29 12/2 Hrushevskoho str. me.gov.ua<http://www.me.gov.ua/> kobyliak.nadia(a)gmail.com<mailto:kobyliak.nadia@gmail.com> 01008 Kyiv Twitter<http://twitter.com/mineconomdev> NKobyliak(a)me.gov.ua<mailto:NKobyliak@me.gov.ua> Ukraine Facebook<http://facebook.com/mineconomdev>

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Re: [tz] Request for change to the tz database
by Hal Murray Feb. 8, 2021

Feb. 8, 2021

tim(a)timtimeonline.com said: > Yes, and as the proposal moves forward, we could provide the IANA moderators > with updated boilerplate as necessary. I'd expect the boilerplate to be a pointer to a FAQ entry. I think a note on the page about the list would be helpful and friendly. https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/tz -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

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Re: [tz] South Sudan to change time zone?
by Paul Eggert Feb. 8, 2021

Feb. 8, 2021

On 2/7/21 10:16 AM, Hayo Schmidt wrote: > you created a new > edge case by defining 00:00 of a day and then shifting back the date by > one day (and 23 hours forward). This sort of edge case is not new to Africa/Juba. For example, it occurred on 2020-03-22 at 00:00 in America/Asuncion, and is scheduled to occur again on 2021-03-28 at 00:00 at the same location. > A datum could have been created when reaching the first time exactly > 00:00:00.000. This is modeled in tzdb by the clock ticking 23:59:59.999999999 (as many 9s as you like) followed by 23:00:00.000000000 (the same number of 0s). That is, all the timestamps from 23:00:00.000000000 through 23:59:59.999999999 occur twice, but 00:00:00.000000000 the next day occurs only once. In this sense, there's no difference between a transition at 24:00, and one at 02:00. You can seem more details by running the command "zdump -v Africa/Juba".

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Fwd: Timezone issue
by Yaroslav Bilko Feb. 5, 2021

Feb. 5, 2021

Hi, hope you're doing great! I've noticed some libraries use quite an irrelevant name for the capital of Ukraine: "Timezone: Europe/Kiev". And it comes from TZDB. C'mon lads, everybody in the whole civilized world knows that Kiev is wrong but you use it for some reason (only bloody russians talk like this and without any permission from our country (ukrainians), they push that name just because they want conquer our country and erase ukrainnian culture and you help them to achieve this goal!), the only one official name of this city is Kyiv! Yes, many people say "Kiev" even in Ukraine, but their number is getting down very fast. People start to figure it out. And the most important thing - they use it in non-public conversations. In all public places all information must be written Ukrainian (sometimes dubbing with English and that's it). It is protected by the law ( https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/2704-19#Text) All Latin transliteration of our cities written in this law: https://zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/z0957-14#Text [image: image.png] No Kiev as you can see. Only Kyiv. Soviet name "Kiev" disappeared 30 years ago. There's no need to exhume this corpse from the grave. Ukraine started a official campaign ( https://mfa.gov.ua/news/67521-correctua-mzs-ukrajini-zvertajetysya-do-svitu… ) some time ago to show other countries and mass media that Kyiv is only one true name. Even Google accepted it and maps show the correct name. That hit me and my friends and colleagues right in a heart! We hope you find some time to fix this little typo, but this is little only for first look! Hope for your care.

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Names of Areas
by Andrea Boyle Feb. 3, 2021

Feb. 3, 2021

Hello, I am writing to you to request a small but significant change to the area options that are currently listed in the database. Recently I used software that uses the database for the area and location information and I was initially very puzzled when trying to find Canada. America was there but no other country in the North or South American continents. After a little research I realized that the database has America represent both. The trouble I have is that America is also a well used name for the United States and represents the name of a country rather than the two continents. I will be honest that it definitely rubbed the wrong way to have to choose America to find a city in Canada and I would also bet that outside of the US it would not be intuitive to choose America when looking for other countries within North and South America. To that end, I think it would be a great improvement to update the area to "Americas" or "the Americas" so that it was much clearer that it represents more than just one country. Thank you -- Andrea Boyle

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(Near) UNIX epoch in the wild
by Arthur David Olson Feb. 1, 2021

Feb. 1, 2021

Today at the Paul S. Sarbanes Silver Spring (Maryland) Transit Center. https://twitter.com/dashdashado/status/1356321947005628418 @dashdashado

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Re: [tz] CCTF survey on Time and Frequency Metrology - Telecom
by Hal Murray Feb. 1, 2021

Feb. 1, 2021

Brian.Inglis(a)SystematicSw.ab.ca said: > My reply suggested they divorce the time scales to allow business systems to > use approximate POSIX like common law legal solar time as they ignore leap > seconds one way or another; allow scientific systems to use atomic time and > ignore legal solar time; and just ignore the ITU as broadcast radio time > signals (DCF/JJY/MSF/WWV/B/H) are unavailable most places, may need > equipment no longer commonly available, and too low accuracy for modern > needs; other commonly available sources are delayed to uselessness by > digital processing. Could you please say more about the "delayed to uselessness"? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

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How can I add a new time zone: 'America/Joao Pessoa'?
by Fabrício Cabral Jan. 31, 2021

Jan. 31, 2021

Hi all! How can I add a new time zone? I'd like add 'America/Joao Pessoa'. Joao Pessoa[1] is the capital of Paraiba state, in Brazil. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo%C3%A3o_Pessoa,_Para%C3%ADba Best Regards, -- --fx

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Re: [tz] South Sudan to change time zone?
by Chris Hill Jan. 30, 2021

Jan. 30, 2021

On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 19:04, Paul Eggert <eggert at cs.ucla.edu> wrote: > > This article says the change will take place at "midnight, February 1": > > > > http://southsudan24news.com/south-sudan-change-its-time-zone-in-february-1-… > > The version I now see says, "The change will occur at 00:00 (midnight) > on February 1, when clocks will be set back 1 hour to 23:00 (11:00 pm)." > This is a bit confusing, because if the change is indeed at 00:00 on > February 1, the quoted text should have ended in "23:00 (11:00 pm) the > previous day" to avoid confusion. > > Perhaps the official announcement (if one is made and someone can > .provide it) will be less confusing. The official announcement (accessible without a Facebook account at https://www.facebook.com/www.motps.goss.org/videos/3770463003014509/ concurs with this: 08:23 'So, from the 1st of February, we are going back to our actual Greenwich Mean Time. We are going back to our local zone, of 2 hours' difference between Greenwich Mean Time, which is the zero hour, and our local time which will be 2 hours, which will be Greenwich Mean Time plus 2 hours' 09:43 'On the 31st, and the morning starts, that morning will not start at 12, but when it is 12 midnight of the 31st of January, it will be 11 o'clock. And you continue like that... Our 12 midnight of the 31st January will repeat itself; it will be 11, and then you go again for 12 midnight. That is when it becomes according to our time now.' We're based in South Sudan so was keen to get this right. Hope it helps. Kind regards, -- Chris Hill IT Officer Mission Aviation Fellowship International T +44 (0)1233 895517 F +44 (0)1233 895570 Operations Centre, Henwood, Ashford, Kent TN24 8DH Mission Aviation Fellowship International. A company Limited by guarantee, registered in England & Wales Registered Charity Number: 1058226. Registered Company Number: 3144199. Registered Office: Operations Centre, Henwood, Ashford, Kent TN24 8DH https://www.mafint.org/ "NOTICE: Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the individual and not necessarily the company. This email (and any attachment) is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, forward, copy, print or retain this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender before deleting it from your computer system. Email transmissions may not be completely secure, may be intercepted or corrupted and may arrive late or not at all. The sender accepts no liability for viruses and we recommend that you scan all emails for viruses before opening them. For more information please contact dataprotection(a)mafint.org<mailto:dataprotection@mafint.org>. To view our Privacy Notice click Here<https://www.mafint.org/privacy-notice.html>. To view our Terms and Conditions click Here<https://www.mafint.org/terms-and-conditions.html>."

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Old London Meridian
by Tim Jacobs Jan. 29, 2021

Jan. 29, 2021

Lines 106 to 125 of tz/europe mention the old meridian before Greenwich. The estimated position is 51° 28' 30" N, 0° 18' 45" W, which would put it north of the river in the grounds of Syon House. The meridian markers are in fact all south of the river, and can be seen by walking the Thames Path on the south bank. The meridian passes through the King's Observatory, with obelisks to the north and south. The map on the information boards shows a total of four obelisks marking the meridian. The website for the King's Observatory quotes the following: "This task was later transferred to Greenwich Observatory but not before three obelisks had been erected in the Old Deer Park in June 1778 to assist in the exact alignment of instruments in the Observatory. The northern one and the western one of the southern pair are on the true north-south meridian line passing through the west room of the Observatory which housed a tracking telescope. The southern obelisk is due south from the east room that at the time housed its great mural quadrant." The position of the King's Observatory is given on Wikipedia as 51°28′08″N 0°18′53″W, which would give STDOFF = -0:01:15.53 I don't suppose anyone is particularly concerned about this, but I thought I would point it out.

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