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FW: Corrections to web page
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] March 12, 2007

March 12, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Bruce Rossi, who is not on the time zone mailing ist. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: data2doc [mailto:data2doc@fastmail.com.au] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:21 AM To: Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Subject: Re: FW: Corrections to web page Hi Arthur, Sorry, I should have included references: The Bureau of Meteorology: <http://www.bom.gov.au/> Wikipedia definition: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteorology> A bit of history which illustrates the name origin: <http://www.bartleby.com/64/C004/035.html>

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DST in the news
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] March 12, 2007

March 12, 2007

"Countdown to Confusion: Daylight Saving Time Comes Early This Year, But Will Your Computer Know When to Switch?" appeared on page D1 (front of the business section) of the Saturday, March 3 Washington Post. Prime nugget: "The newsletter of the Los Alamos National Laboratory recently reminded employees to reset clocks on coffeemakers that are programmed to start brewing while the owner is waking up, showering[,] or dressing. The nation's most vital atomic secrets, it seems, should not be entrusted to scientists running low on java. --ado

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yearistype.sh
by John Kolvereid March 12, 2007

March 12, 2007

Hi, I am using Linux RedHat v9. I have downloaded the latest tzcode using: wget 'ftp://elsit.nci.nih.gov/pub/tz*.tar.gz' and ran the following commands: gzip -dc tgcode*.tar.gz | tar -xf - gzip -dc tgcode*.tar.gz | tar -xf - make TOPDIR=$HOME/tzdir install but got the fatal response: sed \ -e 's|AWK=[^}]*|AWK=nawk|g' \ -e 's|TZDIR=[^}]*|TZDIR=/root/tzdir/etc/zoneinfo|' \ <tzselect.ksh >tzselect chmod +x tzselect cc -DTZDIR=\"/root/tzdir/etc/zoneinfo\" -c -o zic.o zic.c cc -DTZDIR=\"/root/tzdir/etc/zoneinfo\" -c -o localtime.o localtime.c localtime.c: In function `differ_by_repeat': localtime.c:331: warning: comparison is always false due to limited range of data type cc -DTZDIR=\"/root/tzdir/etc/zoneinfo\" -c -o asctime.o asctime.c cc -DTZDIR=\"/root/tzdir/etc/zoneinfo\" -c -o scheck.o scheck.c cc -DTZDIR=\"/root/tzdir/etc/zoneinfo\" -c -o ialloc.o ialloc.c make: *** No rule to make target `yearistype.sh', needed by `yearistype'. Stop. I have no idea what to do about the script 'yearistype.sh' Any suggestions. Pls advise. Thx. -- John Kolvereid odin(a)op.net www.akaodin.com 610.296.4485 610.389.2201 (cell)

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Corrections to web page
by data2doc March 9, 2007

March 9, 2007

Hi, I've spotted an error on the page <http://www.twinsun.com/tz/tz-link.htm> Under the heading "National histories of legal time" is: Australia The Parliamentary Library has commissioned research note on daylight saving time in Australia. The Bureau of ***Metrology*** publishes a list of Implementation Dates of Daylight Savings Time within Australia. The Bureau of Metrology should be The Bureau of Meteorology Metrology is the science of measurement while Meteorology is the science of weather. -- Regards, Bruce Rossi Data To Documents data2docSAFE at URLfastmail.com.au (Please modify to reply)

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Two tzcode fixes
by Petr Baudis March 7, 2007

March 7, 2007

(Resending with correct mailing list address.) Hi, when checking a diff between tzcode2006o and the current glibc CVS, I've noticed two changes in glibc which were AFAICS never pushed upstream. Both were committed by Ulrich Drepper: [PATCH] (tofile;): Fix typo in symlink creation. Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:55:45 +0000 timezone/zic.c | 2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) diff --git a/timezone/zic.c b/timezone/zic.c index 57dc531..4e3f42f 100644 --- a/timezone/zic.c +++ b/timezone/zic.c @@ -650,7 +650,7 @@ const char * const tofile; "../"); symlinkcontents = ecatalloc(symlinkcontents, - fromfile); + fromname); result = symlink(symlinkcontents, toname); if (result == 0) [PATCH] Fix spelling in message. Thu, 21 Sep 2006 03:57:30 +0000 timezone/zdump.c | 2 +- 8 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) diff --git a/timezone/zdump.c b/timezone/zdump.c index 45ce641..d525da1 100644 --- a/timezone/zdump.c +++ b/timezone/zdump.c @@ -389,7 +389,7 @@ _("%s: usage is %s [ --version ] [ -v ] } if (fflush(stdout) || ferror(stdout)) { (void) fprintf(stderr, "%s: ", progname); - (void) perror(_("Error writing standard output")); + (void) perror(_("Error writing to standard output")); exit(EXIT_FAILURE); } exit(EXIT_SUCCESS); -- Petr "Pasky" Baudis Stuff: http://pasky.or.cz/ The meaning of Stonehenge in Traflamadorian, when viewed from above, is: "Replacement part being rushed with all possible speed." -- Kurt Vonnegut, Sirens from Titan

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March madness continues in U.S., Canada, etc.
by Paul Eggert March 6, 2007

March 6, 2007

For the next week or so we can expect to see a lot more publicity about the impending daylight-saving change in the U.S., Canada, etc., which first hits our clocks Sunday (typically at 02:00). Google News currently lists about 1700 news articles on the subject of "daylight saving", and we can expect that number to climb. Nobody has time to read all this stuff, but here are a few selected items, if you care for this sort of thing. (Disclaimer: I contributed to some of them.) Lists of vendor advisories: http://www.calconnect.org/dstlinks.html http://www.reganfamily.ca/dst/ There is now a Wikipedia page just for this event, which contains more vendor advisories (one for the tz database itself!): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y2K7#Zoneinfo A good summary of Y2K7, suitable for non-techies, is: Steve Lohr, "Time change a 'mini-Y2K in tech terms", New York Times <http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/05/technology/05daylight.html?em&ex=11733300…> (2007-03-05). Gartner has estimated IT costs between $500 million and $1 billion; see Ben Arnoldy, "Latest computer glitch: daylight saving time", Christian Science Monitor <http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0307/p02s01-stct.html> (2007-03-07). In an informal poll taken yesterday at a Computerworld IT conference, 52% of respondents said that they were done with upgrading, 39% said they're not done yet, 4% said they hadn't even started (!), and 4% said they didn't know the change was coming (!!). The related story said that Microsoft is still issuing patches. Todd R. Weiss, "Premier 100: Conference attendees deal with daylight-saving time fixes from afar", Computerworld <http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&art…> (2007-03-06). PG&E, the main utility in northern California, estimated that it'd take $38 million for them to upgrade their meters to account for daylight-saving time. Instead, they got permission from the California Public Utilities Commission to change their billing algorithm during the affected period -- i.e., they changed the rules rather than fixing their clocks. Paul McDougall, "PG&E Says Patching Meters For An Early Daylight-Saving Time Will Cost $38 Million", InformationWeek <http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=197700487> (2007-03-01)

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FW: Brazil DST Rules for 2007
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] March 6, 2007

March 6, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Amar Devegowda, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zne mailing list should direct repllies appropriately. --ado ________________________________ From: Amar Devegowda [mailto:ADEVEGOW@in.ibm.com] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 6:20 AM To: Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Subject: Brazil DST Rules for 2007 Importance: High Hi Arthur, This is Amar Devegowda from IBM India Software Labs. It has been brought to our notice that the DST rules provided in Olsen Time Zone Database and actual DST rules in Brazil for year 2007 and beyond are different. In 2007, as per the Olsen the DST starts on the first Sunday that comes on or after November 1st. However, the actual DST rule states that the DST starts on Oct 21st in 2007. Here are a couple of web sites that show these new DST rules upto 2009. http://www.worldtimezone.com/daylight.html http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=45&syear=2000 Hence, could you please update the time zone database with the new rules for Brazil in 2007 and beyond at the earliest ? Regards, Amar Amar Devegowda Java L3 Support for Windows, Java Technology Center, IBM India Software Labs, Bangalore, India Telephone 91-80-25094151

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FW: Atlantic/Faroe DST
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] March 5, 2007

March 5, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Michael, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: michael [mailto:crozierm@consumption.net] Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:40 AM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Atlantic/Faroe DST Hello, According to wikipedia authors, DST is observed in Faroe Islands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroe_islands According to TZ, it is not: Atlantic/Faroe Sat Dec 14 20:45:52 1901 UTC = Sat Dec 14 20:45:52 1901 Atlantic/Faroe isdst=0 gmtoff=0 Atlantic/Faroe Mon Jan 18 03:14:07 2038 UTC = Mon Jan 18 03:14:07 2038 Atlantic/Faroe isdst=0 gmtoff=0 Atlantic/Faroe Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 UTC = Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 Atlantic/Faroe isdst=0 gmtoff=0 I don't have any additional evidence to say which is correct, but I thought it worth noting. Thanks, Michael

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RE: Microsoft exec says Namibia and Iran have recently changed DSTrules
by Jesper Norgaard Welen March 5, 2007

March 5, 2007

John Gray, thanks for the quick feedback. Concerning problems in 2009 I think that many people loading the timezone updates in 2007 will not do so in 2009 if there were no actual rule changes since - so I recommend getting it right now. Namibia: I must admit I had not seen the -1.00 in Daylight Bias: My first comment is: this will work technically, as you claim! But is it the best way to do it? Actually "hora de verano de Namibia" means "summertime of Namibia", which will apply between April and September. Note that this use of summertime/wintertime is opposite to all other countries (I think) and also to the web links you sent. However, when you look it up in the list, all other countries are also listed for their wintertime, the GMT offset when not applying DST. Putting Windhoek as (GMT+02:00) is therefore a bit like reporting the revenue of 250 companies before tax, and 1 company after tax - it is just impractical for most purposes. Therefore if you want to call the period something different, for instance calling it summertime between April and September, better do the change only in the Abbreviations, so that Time Zone Name is (GMT+01:00) Windhoek, Abbreviation(1) is "Namibia summertime", Offset from GMT is +1:00, Start Day and Last Day are inversed, Daylight Bias is +1:00 and Abbreviation(2) is "Namibia wintertime". This will confuse less people, I think. Regards, - Jesper Nørgaard Welen >-----Original Message----- >From: John Gray [mailto:johngray@winse.microsoft.com] >Sent: Domingo, 04 de Marzo de 2007 20:23 >To: Jesper Norgaard Welen >Subject: RE: Microsoft exec says Namibia and Iran have recently changed DSTrules >Jesper, thanks for the info. Yes, we have been working very hard to get this all in place and still have a long way to go for some issues. >It looks like we may have a minor issue for 2009 but we should be able to address it with a custom set for that year. I've forwarded your observations to the people that own the >detailed specifics of our DST data for Windows. >For Namibia, oddly enough we have an internal email on file confirming this is the official preference of the government - note that we have a "-1 hour" offset for the DST period so the clocks and offsets will be correct, it is just the name that is in dispute (e.g. which period of the year to call "daylight saving"). From some of their websites, it looks like they simply use "summer time" and "winter time" without referring to either one as a "saving" time per-se. It is also entirely possible different organizations within their government may have different preferences here. >http://www.grnnet.gov.na/News/Archive/2001/March2001/Week4/release_winter_t ime.htm >http://www.grnnet.gov.na/News/Archive/2001/August/Week4/summer.htm >For Chile, yes I am aware we worked hard to get it right. Apparently their official documents defined the change to happen at "24:00" hours, which never actually occurs (I'm not sure if they ever fixed this). A classic case of we know what they meant, but causes us to do strange things in the digital world. >For the rest I'll have to wait for the experts to investigate. >Thanks again, >John Gray >Director, Windows Sustainability Engineering Services

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Mongolia not on DST in 2007
by Jesper Norgaard Welen March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

Ganbold was kind enough to send me this link in Mongolian about Mongolia not applying DST this year. I guess it's the only web reference we have about this at the moment: >Good question. It wasn't Parliament resolution, it was >Mongolian government resolution and government members >made decision not to have daylight-saving. I couldn't access >Mongolian Government web site, I could only find some >mongolian references which I guess is not helpful to anybody >other than Mongolian. > >http://www.mongolnews.mn/index.php?module=unuudur&sec=view&id=15742 Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Welen Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Project Leader (Líder de Proyecto) Software CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT Int. c/o Jesper Nørgaard Km. 45, Carretera México-Veracruz El Batán Texcoco, Edo. de México CP 56130 MEXICO Tel.: +52 (55) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (55) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 Download the shareware program World Time Explorer, I made: http://www.worldtimeexplorer.com/index.html

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Microsoft exec says Namibia and Iran have recently changed DST rules
by Paul Eggert March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

In an interview Microsoft published yesterday <http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2007/mar07/03-01DaylightSaving.…> Rich Kaplan, Vice President of Microsoft Customer Service, Partners and Automation said "Namibia and Iran ratified changes even more recently" than December 2006. Has anyone else heard about this, or was Mr. Kaplan merely misinformed? Kaplan is also quoted as saying that Brazil and Israel are not on the Gregorian calendar, so I'm inclined to think the information got garbled a bit in translation....

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Cuba changing DST spring switch date this year to equal the US
by Paul Eggert March 3, 2007

March 3, 2007

On Wednesday, Granma, the official organ of the central committee of the Communist Party of Cuba, wrote that this year Cuba will advance its clocks on midnight, March 10. See <http://www.granma.cubaweb.cu/english/news/art89.html>. The official announcement was published (in Spanish) yesterday <http://www.granma.cubaweb.cu/2007/03/01/nacional/artic01.html>. The announcement doesn't say when the clocks switch back, but for lack of better info I guess we should assume that Cuba will use the US dates for spring and autumn, but switch at midnight standard time, which is their recent tradition. I'll send out a proposed patch soon. PS. I still haven't been able to find any official confirmation for the theory that Haiti will not observe DST this year. The IATA and timeanddate.com are consistent with this theory, but worldtimezone.com disagrees.

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Nunavut (2007)
by Chris Walton March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

Looks like Nunavut (Territory in northern Canada) has finally decided to follow the rest of Canada and the United States. An amendment to the Interpretation Act was registered on February 19/2007. See page 18 of February's the Nunavut Gazette: http://action.attavik.ca/home/justice-gn/attach/2007/gaz02part2.pdf All of the assumptions that were made in the TZ database are now correct; no further changes are required. As per usual, I have updated my Canadian DST web page at http://www3.sympatico.ca/c.walton/canada_dst.html P.S. I came accross a little news article from Northern News Services dated November 13/2006. It claims that the community of Resolute (located on Conrnwallis Island in Nunavut) moved from Central Time to Eastern Time last November. Basically the community did not change its clocks at the end of daylight saving. It is not clear whether or not the clocks will change again on March 11 of if they will stay fixed on Eastern Standard Time. Technically this requires a new zone. Ouch. Is it worth it for a population of of 215 people? http://www.nnsl.com/frames/newspapers/2006-11/nov13_06none.html -chris

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Atlantic/Faroe DST
by michael March 2, 2007

March 2, 2007

Hello, According to wikipedia authors, DST is observed in Faroe Islands. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faroe_islands According to TZ, it is not: Atlantic/Faroe Sat Dec 14 20:45:52 1901 UTC = Sat Dec 14 20:45:52 1901 Atlantic/Faroe isdst=0 gmtoff=0 Atlantic/Faroe Mon Jan 18 03:14:07 2038 UTC = Mon Jan 18 03:14:07 2038 Atlantic/Faroe isdst=0 gmtoff=0 Atlantic/Faroe Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 UTC = Tue Jan 19 03:14:07 2038 Atlantic/Faroe isdst=0 gmtoff=0 I don't have any additional evidence to say which is correct, but I thought it worth noting. Thanks, Michael

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zdump -v segfault on alpha
by Gilles Espinasse Feb. 28, 2007

Feb. 28, 2007

zdump -v does not correctly work on alpha. cat /proc/cpuinfo cpu : Alpha cpu model : EV45 cpu variation : 7 cpu revision : 0 cpu serial number : system type : Avanti system variation : 0 system revision : 0 system serial number : AY cycle frequency [Hz] : 267895671 est. timer frequency [Hz] : 1024.00 page size [bytes] : 8192 phys. address bits : 34 max. addr. space # : 63 BogoMIPS : 529.40 kernel unaligned acc : 0 (pc=0,va=0) user unaligned acc : 0 (pc=0,va=0) platform string : AlphaServer 300 4/266 Tested with zdump 7.64 and the last available version 8.3 on tzcode2007b.tar.gz My report is #412569 against libc-2.3.2.ds1-22sarge5 and gcc-3.3.5-13 on debian BTS After compilation of zdump from tzcode2007b.tar.gz with make zdump alpha300:~# ./zdump --version @(#)zdump.c 8.3 alpha300:~# ./zdump -v /etc/localtime /etc/localtime -9223372036854775808 = NULL /etc/localtime -9223372036854689408 = NULL As it fail too with this last zdump available, I would think I need to report it there too. I find other report related to 64bits arch on debian BTS #266438: zdump -v causes core dump on IA64 Linux Package: libc6.1 (2.2.5-11.2; fixed: glibc 2.3.5-3); #402776: zdump -v errors on 64 bit architectures Package: libc6.1 (glibc 2.3.6.ds1-8, 2.3.6.ds1-10); Gilles

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FW: New DST Rules for 2007
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 27, 2007

Feb. 27, 2007

I'm forwarding this message form Bryan O'Neill, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado ________________________________ From: Bryan O'Neill, President [mailto:support@wake123.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:08 AM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: New DST Rules for 2007 Ladies & Gentlemen, I asked a question on linuxquestions.org about what exact commands I would need to install your patch that will update the new DST rules on my RH 8.0 pc. One guy responded with the following: ]$ cd /tmp && { mkdir tz && cd tz || exit 1; } wget -q 'ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tz*.tar.gz' || exit ]$ gzip -dc tzcode*.tar.gz | tar -xf - ]$ gzip -dc tzdata*.tar.gz | tar -xf - ]$ which nawk >/dev/null 2>&1|| { sed -i 's|nawk|gawk|g' Makefile || exit 1; } ]$ LOCALTIMEVAR0=`grep ^ZONE= /etc/sysconfig/clock 2>/dev/null| awk -F'=' '{print $2}'|tr -d '"'` ]$ LOCALTIMEVAR1=`make zonenames 2>/dev/null|grep -m1 $LOCALTIMEVAR0|awk '{print $1}'` ]$ [ -n $LOCALTIMEVAR1 ] || exit 1 && { sed -i "s|Factory|$LOCALTIMEVAR1|g" Makefile \ && make install; echo 'Done!'; } The blue code I've already done and I understand. But what about the green code? Do you see anything there that may create something malcious or unsecure? I don't think so but I wanted to get your more educated & trusted opinion. Is it correct for east coast time zone (New York)? Thanks! -Bryan

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New DST Rules for 2007
by Bryan O'Neill, President Feb. 27, 2007

Feb. 27, 2007

GlacierLadies & Gentlemen, I asked a question on linuxquestions.org about what exact commands I would need to install your patch that will update the new DST rules on my RH 8.0 pc. One guy responded with the following: ]$ cd /tmp && { mkdir tz && cd tz || exit 1; } wget -q 'ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tz*.tar.gz' || exit ]$ gzip -dc tzcode*.tar.gz | tar -xf - ]$ gzip -dc tzdata*.tar.gz | tar -xf - ]$ which nawk >/dev/null 2>&1|| { sed -i 's|nawk|gawk|g' Makefile || exit 1; } ]$ LOCALTIMEVAR0=`grep ^ZONE= /etc/sysconfig/clock 2>/dev/null| awk -F'=' '{print $2}'|tr -d '"'` ]$ LOCALTIMEVAR1=`make zonenames 2>/dev/null|grep -m1 $LOCALTIMEVAR0|awk '{print $1}'` ]$ [ -n $LOCALTIMEVAR1 ] || exit 1 && { sed -i "s|Factory|$LOCALTIMEVAR1|g" Makefile \ && make install; echo 'Done!'; } The blue code I've already done and I understand. But what about the green code? Do you see anything there that may create something malcious or unsecure? I don't think so but I wanted to get your more educated & trusted opinion. Is it correct for east coast time zone (New York)? Thanks! -Bryan

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No more daylight saving time in Mongolia
by Ganbold Feb. 27, 2007

Feb. 27, 2007

Dear sir, Sorry for making trouble. Parliament of Mongolia has just changed the daylight-saving rule in February. They decided not to adopt daylight-saving time. Could you please make appropriate changes to asia zone file? Following lines: Rule Mongol 2001 max - Sep lastSat 2:00 0 - Rule Mongol 2002 max - Mar lastSat 2:00 1:00 S could be changed to: Rule Mongol 2001 2006 - Sep lastSat 2:00 0 - Rule Mongol 2002 2006 - Mar lastSat 2:00 1:00 S Maybe I'm wrong here. Please let me know if you have any questions. sincerely, Ganbold Ts. Mongolia

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mid-atlantic zoneinfo
by Jing Jiang Feb. 26, 2007

Feb. 26, 2007

Hi there, I couldn't find the zoneinfo about Mid-Atlantic. Do we miss this zone info? Where can I find this information? Thanks, Jing Jiang Senior Software Engineer Converged Access Inc 309 - 1100 NW Compton Drive Beaverton, OR 97006 Web: http://www.convergedaccess.com <http://www.convergedaccess.com/>

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FW: Addition to tz compiler list
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 26, 2007

Feb. 26, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Doug Day who's not on the time zone mailing list (at least not at the address show below). Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado ________________________________ From: Doug Day [mailto:doug@ddaysoftware.com] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 1:52 PM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Addition to tz compiler list I've created a tz-database converter called tziCal which takes the tz database files and compiles them into a single iCalendar (.ics) file that is compliant with RFC 2445. This program is similar to VZIC, except it is built with the .NET Framework 2.0, and has a pre-built tool for compiling these files. I just wanted to let everyone know another tool existed. Thanks, -Doug Day CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. This information should not be read, given or made accessible to anyone else. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately via the address shown. Thank you for your compliance.

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FW: Where is the US location
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 26, 2007

Feb. 26, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from David Cyl, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: David Cyl [mailto:davecyl@aps.anl.gov] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 6:34 PM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Where is the US location I was successful in compiling the timezones for north America but I did not get a directory for US where the Central, Pacific etc data is kept. Am I doing something wrong? Dave Cyl

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FW: Change history for tzdata
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 26, 2007

Feb. 26, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Paul Beadle who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado ________________________________ From: Paul Beadle [mailto:paul.beadle@orchestria.com] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:43 AM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Change history for tzdata Can anyone help me find the change history for tz data? I'd like to know which tzdata updates contain which changes. Paul Beadle Principal Software Engineer Orchestria Good Controls are Good Business

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Tzcode2007c.tar.gz and tzdata2007c.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 26, 2007

Feb. 26, 2007

The files... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2007c.tar.gz ...and... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2007c.tar.gz ...are now available; these reflect the proposed changes circulated on the time zone mailing list last week by Paul Eggert. --ado

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FW: tziCal
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 26, 2007

Feb. 26, 2007

A second message from Doug Day. --ado ________________________________ From: Doug Day [mailto:doug@ddaysoftware.com] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 1:53 PM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: tziCal I forgot to add - tziCal is a SourceForge project, located at http://sf.net/projects/tzical. Thanks, -Doug Day CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic transmission may contain confidential information. This information is intended for the use of the individual(s) or entity to whom it is intended, even if addressed incorrectly. This information should not be read, given or made accessible to anyone else. Please delete it from your files if you are not the intended recipient. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately via the address shown. Thank you for your compliance.

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Fw: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey
by Nirav Jk Vora Feb. 26, 2007

Feb. 26, 2007

Hi All, Please can someone provide their inputs here? With Warm Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nirav J Vora Team member, JVM L3 Support(AIX) IBM India Software Lab, Bangalore ( Office: +91-8025094142 È Mobile: +91-9945383481 + e-Mail: nirav.vora(a)in.ibm.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ JVM Diagnostics Reference @ IBM Internal: http://w3.hursley.ibm.com/java/jim/j2se/ibmproduceddocumentation/javadiagno… External: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ----- Forwarded by Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM on 02/26/2007 08:59 AM ----- Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM 02/21/2007 09:57 AM To "Olson, Arthur David $NIH/NCI$ [E]" <olsona(a)dc37a.nci.nih.gov> cc tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject Re: FW: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey Hi All, Your inputs here will be greatly appreciated. Having not heard from a long time, could someone please comment on the below mail? With Warm Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nirav J Vora Team member, JVM L3 Support(AIX) IBM India Software Lab, Bangalore ( Office: +91-8025094142 È Mobile: +91-9945383481 + e-Mail: nirav.vora(a)in.ibm.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ JVM Diagnostics Reference @ IBM Internal: http://w3.hursley.ibm.com/java/jim/j2se/ibmproduceddocumentation/javadiagno… External: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Olson, Arthur David $NIH/NCI$ [E]" <olsona(a)dc37a.nci.nih.gov> 02/15/2007 07:23 PM To <tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov> cc Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM@IBMIN Subject FW: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey I'm forwarding this message from Nirav Vora, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the tme zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado ________________________________ From: Nirav Jk Vora [mailto:nirav.vora@in.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:52 PM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Fw: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey Importance: High Hi All, Just following up to see if someone could provide some inputs to my previous mail which is below. Just wanted to check as this is urgent for the customer. With Warm Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nirav J Vora Team member, JVM L3 Support(AIX) IBM India Software Lab, Bangalore ( Office: +91-8025094142 È Mobile: +91-9945383481 + e-Mail: nirav.vora(a)in.ibm.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ JVM Diagnostics Reference @ IBM Internal: http://w3.hursley.ibm.com/java/jim/j2se/ibmproduceddocumentation/javadiagno… External: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Forwarded by Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM on 02/14/2007 08:19 AM ----- Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM 02/10/2007 08:41 AM To tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov cc Subject Re: DST rules for Istanbul, TurkeyLink < Notes://d23m0066/6525701E0082C7B6/691A46CAF425A77B6525727500111FC3/9DB5E329E2A52B24652572750034A74E > Hi All, Thank you all for your replies. I have gone back conveying the same to the customer. Here is what they have had to say: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to following link; http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/turkey/ turkey time zone settings are as follow which is valid now. Standard Time = GMT+2 Summer Time = GMT+3 According to following link; http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=107&syear=2000 29 Ekim 2006 Pazar, 01:59:59 1 hour +3 hours EEST 29 Ekim 2006 Pazar, 01:00:00 No +2 hours EET DST ends 25 Mart 2007 Pazar, 00:59:59 No +2 hours EET 25 Mart 2007 Pazar, 02:00:00 1 hour +3 hours EEST DST starts which is consistent with the previous information. To support the below information,I have taken the official newspaper of the government which had declared to regulate the time settings.I have talked with the staff of the government. They said that this declaration is the last daylight saving declaration announced by the government with official newspaper and today rules are valid for this declaration. I am sending the image of the fax that is sent by the government. The newspaper is normally in Turkish. I want to explain it briefly: "26 Mart 2000 Pazar günü saat 01:00'den itibaren bir saat ileri al?nmas?" means "clocks will be set 1 hour forward (will be GMT+3 ) on 26 March 2000 Sunday at 01:00" 01:00 is the local time (23:00 GMT Saturday) and "29 Ekim 200 Pazar günü saat 02:00'den itibaren bir saat geri al?nmas?" means "clocks will be set 1 hour back (will be GMT+2 ) on 29 October 2000 Sunday at 02:00" 02:00 is the local time (23:00 GMT Satruday) I think these documents are enough to show the daylight saving policy of Turkey is: Standard Time = GMT+2 Summer Time = GMT+3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So to summarize, the customer has provided a citation from the turkish government which tells about the latest DST rules. I have attached the jpg in this mail. Please review the same and provide your inputs as to whether this information would suffice to change the database timezone rules for Turkey. With Warm Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nirav J Vora Team member, JVM L3 Support(AIX) IBM India Software Lab, Bangalore ( Office: +91-8025094142 È Mobile: +91-9945383481 + e-Mail: nirav.vora(a)in.ibm.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ JVM Diagnostics Reference @ IBM Internal: http://w3.hursley.ibm.com/java/jim/j2se/ibmproduceddocumentation/javadiagno… External: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Ilieve <peter(a)aldie.co.uk> 02/01/2007 02:58 PM To Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM@IBMIN cc tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject Re: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey > Thanks, but that link says Turkish DST starts at 01:00 GMT (i.e., at > 03:00 local time) and ends at 01:00 GMT (i.e., at 04:00 local time). > This agrees with the current tz database. But Amar Devegowda reported > that Turkish DST actually starts at 01:00 local time and ends at 02:00 > local time. Steffen Thorsen of timeanddate.com agreed, and cited > Turkish newspaper reports from 1996 through 2001. > > I'm inclined to go with Devegowda and Thorsen, but what would be > helpful is an official source (e.g., a citation from Turkish law) that > says exactly when this practice started. So far, all we know is that > the current Turkish practice started before 1996, which is a bit > vague. I don't have any authoritative source but I can add a little context to this. Turkey is attempting to join the European Union (it's listed as a candidate country on the <http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/> page). This is proving a long and painful process. It may be that Turkey has officially switched to the EU 01:00 UTC clock change time recently as part of this EU application process. It may be that the website is just confused, showing all pages under the european-union directory as using EU rules even if they don't. I would also go with Devegowda and Thorsen, mainly on the basis that I think it's very unlikely that a country that far east would use 01:00 UTC unless forced to by something like EU rules. Newspaper reports of 01:00 local time are much more credible. Peter Ilieve peter(a)aldie.co.uk

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