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Civil suit; ftp shutdown; mailing list shutdown
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 12, 2012

Feb. 12, 2012

A civil suit was filed on September 30 in federal court in Boston; I'm a defendant; the case involves the time zone database. The ftp server at elsie.nci.nih.gov has been shut down. The mailing list will be shut down after this message. Electronic mail can be sent to me at arthurdavidolson(a)gmail.com. I hope there will be better news shortly. --ado

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Armenia to no longer observe DST
by Steffen Thorsen Feb. 10, 2012

Feb. 10, 2012

Many Armenian news sources report that Armenia will not observe DST this year, but rather stay on UTC+4 through the year. Example: "Armenia’s Economy Minister announced that this year the country will not switch its time. " http://news.am/eng/news/90743.html Our brief version: http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/armenia-ends-dst.html Best regards, Steffen Thorsen - timeanddate.com

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Re: [tz] Australian time zone abbreviations
by Shaun Bouckaert Feb. 10, 2012

Feb. 10, 2012

On 8 November 2011 15:55, Shaun Bouckaert <shaun.bouckaert(a)gmail.com> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shaun Bouckaert <shaun.bouckaert(a)gmail.com> > Date: 8 November 2011 15:31 > Subject: Re: [tz] Australian time zone abbreviations > To: tz(a)iana.org > > > On 8 November 2011 15:20, Shaun Bouckaert <shaun.bouckaert(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks for the research Edwin. >> >> Considering that the Federal Government, ABC, SBS, Bureau of >> Meteorology, and several large national newspapers (with a few >> anomolies) all use the same notation, I would say that a fairly well >> established standard exists. Perhaps it is the ambiguity caused by the >> absence of the 'A' that lead to organisations coming up with things >> like ADST. Given the existing use of the Axxx acronyms, the fact that >> the Federal Government itself has defined the timezones as such and >> the fact that there are bugs in software due to the ambiguity with the >> American timezones, and finally, the fact that the only arguments >> against it have been that the states haven't defined them in >> legislation (was this proposed as if it somehow invalidated the >> federal governments opinion?), it's hard to argue against it. As for >> the confusion you've encountered Greg, perhaps if the Axxx labels were >> used, less people would be confused and not be making up acronyms like >> ADST. >> >> [snip] >> > > I meant to also add, probably a significant amount of the current > usage of EST is due to the fact that that is how it is currently > expressed in the tzdata, as opposed to any conscious decision or style > guide. > > Shaun Whilst updating my address on my license after a recent move I found an example of the Queensland Government using the abbreviation AEST for the timezone in the TOS of the Queensland Transport website. https://www.service.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/QtTerms.jsp "Time is provided in Australian Eastern Standard Time (AEST) as it exists in Brisbane, Australia (GMT + 10:00). Please note that Brisbane does not have daylight saving time during summer." Considering both federal guidelines and state government usage agree, I can see no reason for this not to be changed. Shaun

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Europe/Taunton?
by Zefram Jan. 20, 2012

Jan. 20, 2012

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-16611058 Mr Rees-Mogg has tabled an amendment to the proposed legislation suggesting the "the county of Somerset as defined by the Lieutenants Act shall revert to the customary time used prior to the Great Western Railway time established in 1840". Jacob Ress-Mogg MP is quite a character, and it's a very conservative character. He has that special skill of being nostalgic not only for a time before he was born, but for a time before his great-great-grandparents were born. His amendment is extremely unlikely to be adopted, but its prospective consequences bear some thinking about. He'd make Somerset the only place on Earth where the timezone is not a multiple of five minutes offset from UT. In fact, it wouldn't even be an exact multiple of *one* minute, if implemented in full. And since the pre-1840 custom was for every town to have its own time, we wouldn't just need Europe/Taunton, but potentially several other new zones for different Somerset towns. If any form of the Rees-Mogg amendment were to be adopted, it would more likely be a single timezone for the whole county, an integral number of minutes offset from UT. Taunton (largest town in, and capital of, Somerset) is at some 3.1 degrees west, suggesting a 12 minute offset. -zefram

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Re: [tz] Russia may scrap time change
by Zoidiasoft Tech Jan. 20, 2012

Jan. 20, 2012

A year ago when Russia scrapped the seasonal switch and decided to advance an hour "permanently", I said to myself "finally someone in the Russian Govt "gets it"". I guess not any more... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaakko Hyvätti" <jaakko.hyvatti(a)foreca.com> To: "Zoidiasoft Tech" <tech(a)astrology-x-files.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [tz] Russia may scrap time change > > I guess the point was that the Russians watch Western European games. I > think English football league is not going to listen to Russians in this > matter. > > Jaakko > > On Thu, 19 Jan 2012, Zoidiasoft Tech wrote: > >> Are people really so stupid that they can't change their schedule to have >> their silly little football game to be an hour earlier? Instead they >> want everyone else to change their clocks to fit their own agenda... >> >>> Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin promised to convey to President >>> Dmitry >>> Medvedev suggestions from Russian football fans about the cancellation >>> of the >>> transition to winter time. >> >> > > -- > Foreca Ltd > Jaakko.Hyvatti(a)foreca.com > Tammasaarenkatu 5, FI-00180 Helsinki, Finland http://www.foreca.com

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Russia may scrap time change
by Alexander Krivenyshev Jan. 20, 2012

Jan. 20, 2012

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin promised to convey to President Dmitry Medvedev suggestions from Russian football fans about the cancellation of the transition to winter time. During an informal conversation with the head of government organizations, football fans raised the issue that the cancellation of the transition to winter creates uncomfortable conditions. In particular, it leaves less time for sleep. If, for example, a football match is broadcast rather late in European time, due to the time difference it makes getting up early for work difficult. Interfax news (in Russian) http://www.interfax.ru/society/news.asp?id=226801 or (English) http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_russia40.html Alexander Krivenyshev- WorldTimeZone.com http://www.worldtimezone.com

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Moldova in zone.tab
by Zefram Jan. 20, 2012

Jan. 20, 2012

Now that Moldova has split into two timezones, the zones need descriptions in zone.tab. However, tzdata2011m only gives a description for the new Europe/Tiraspol, leaving the old Europe/Chisinau with no description. This violates the format of zone.tab. (Which makes my automatic repackaging for CPAN protest.) Following examples such as Chile and Greenland, I believe the appropriate description for Europe/Chisinau is "most locations". -zefram

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leap seconds reprieved until 2015
by Zefram Jan. 19, 2012

Jan. 19, 2012

The ITU couldn't reach consensus on leap seconds, and has deferred the issue until 2015. UTC continues with leap seconds for the time being. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16625614 -zefram

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Posix time zone question
by Donald MacQueen Jan. 17, 2012

Jan. 17, 2012

Hi all, I am adding time zone support to our multi-platform application and there are still a few things I cannot figure out. 1) What is the difference between America/Detroit and posix/America/Detroit? The test cases I have written return what looks like the same DST record for a given date no matter which one I use. Under what circumstances would I use posix/America/Detroit? 2) Where is the format of the tz source filesdescribed? Specifically what do SAVE and Letter/S mean below? I am also interested in what the Link format is. # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Nic 1979 1980 - Mar Sun>=16 0:00 1:00 D Rule Nic 1979 1980 - Jun Mon>=23 0:00 0 S 3) AIX machines use their own wacky format such at TZ=EST5EDT. Is there any decent mapping to real names? I have googled my brains out on this and searched the comp.time.tz archives on gmane with no luck. Thanks in advance, Donald

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Tokelau crossing date line
by Gwillim Law Jan. 17, 2012

Jan. 17, 2012

A correspondent informed me that Tokelau, like Samoa, will be skipping December 31 this year, thereby changing its time zone from UTC-10 to UTC+14. When I tried to verify this statement, I found a confirming article in Time magazine online (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2103243,00.html) The Wikipedia article on Tokelau also mentions the change. To the best of my knowledge, this hasn't been reported to the tz list yet. Yours, Gwillim Law

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