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Doubt Regarding DST Patches
by Thiyagu Venki Feb. 22, 2007

Feb. 22, 2007

Hello , The following steps are done by me in RHEL 4 machine 1. I have downloaded Only tzdata2007a.tar.gz from ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/ 2. And I compiled using zic as Example: zic -d zoneinfo/ northamerica -L leapseconds -y yearistype.sh where zoneinfo is my temporary directory 3. And replaced the files to /usr/share/zoneinfo directory 4. Deleted Existing /etc/localtime 4. Copied the new zoneinfo Timezone as cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Los_Angeles /etc/localtime 5. After the above execution I tested using zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 I found the result as Mar & Nov Correctly please tell me that 1. The above timezonedata .. i.e. tzdata2007a.tar.gz is enough for to update below listed OS List Of Linux ~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ Redhat ES 4 Redhat ES 3 Enteprise Version ES 3. Enterprise Version WS 3 Enterprise Version 3 Linux 7.1 Redhat ES 4 update 3 Redhat ES 4 update 3 Redhat 7.1 2. Is Im required to download tzcode2007a.tar.gz and update with zic.c that is available in the tzcode2007a.tar.gz With Regards, Thiyagu

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FW: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 21, 2007

Feb. 21, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Nirav Vora, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the tme zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado ________________________________ From: Nirav Jk Vora [mailto:nirav.vora@in.ibm.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:52 PM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Fw: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey Importance: High Hi All, Just following up to see if someone could provide some inputs to my previous mail which is below. Just wanted to check as this is urgent for the customer. With Warm Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nirav J Vora Team member, JVM L3 Support(AIX) IBM India Software Lab, Bangalore ( Office: +91-8025094142 È Mobile: +91-9945383481 + e-Mail: nirav.vora(a)in.ibm.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ JVM Diagnostics Reference @ IBM Internal: http://w3.hursley.ibm.com/java/jim/j2se/ibmproduceddocumentation/javadiagno… External: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Forwarded by Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM on 02/14/2007 08:19 AM ----- Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM 02/10/2007 08:41 AM To tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov cc Subject Re: DST rules for Istanbul, TurkeyLink <Notes://d23m0066/6525701E0082C7B6/691A46CAF425A77B6525727500111FC3/9DB5E329E2A52B24652572750034A74E> Hi All, Thank you all for your replies. I have gone back conveying the same to the customer. Here is what they have had to say: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to following link; http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/turkey/ turkey time zone settings are as follow which is valid now. Standard Time = GMT+2 Summer Time = GMT+3 According to following link; http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=107&syear=2000 29 Ekim 2006 Pazar, 01:59:59 1 hour +3 hours EEST 29 Ekim 2006 Pazar, 01:00:00 No +2 hours EET DST ends 25 Mart 2007 Pazar, 00:59:59 No +2 hours EET 25 Mart 2007 Pazar, 02:00:00 1 hour +3 hours EEST DST starts which is consistent with the previous information. To support the below information,I have taken the official newspaper of the government which had declared to regulate the time settings.I have talked with the staff of the government. They said that this declaration is the last daylight saving declaration announced by the government with official newspaper and today rules are valid for this declaration. I am sending the image of the fax that is sent by the government. The newspaper is normally in Turkish. I want to explain it briefly: "26 Mart 2000 Pazar günü saat 01:00'den itibaren bir saat ileri al?nmas?" means "clocks will be set 1 hour forward (will be GMT+3 ) on 26 March 2000 Sunday at 01:00" 01:00 is the local time (23:00 GMT Saturday) and "29 Ekim 200 Pazar günü saat 02:00'den itibaren bir saat geri al?nmas?" means "clocks will be set 1 hour back (will be GMT+2 ) on 29 October 2000 Sunday at 02:00" 02:00 is the local time (23:00 GMT Satruday) I think these documents are enough to show the daylight saving policy of Turkey is: Standard Time = GMT+2 Summer Time = GMT+3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So to summarize, the customer has provided a citation from the turkish government which tells about the latest DST rules. I have attached the jpg in this mail. Please review the same and provide your inputs as to whether this information would suffice to change the database timezone rules for Turkey. With Warm Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nirav J Vora Team member, JVM L3 Support(AIX) IBM India Software Lab, Bangalore ( Office: +91-8025094142 È Mobile: +91-9945383481 + e-Mail: nirav.vora(a)in.ibm.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ JVM Diagnostics Reference @ IBM Internal: http://w3.hursley.ibm.com/java/jim/j2se/ibmproduceddocumentation/javadiagno… External: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Ilieve <peter(a)aldie.co.uk> 02/01/2007 02:58 PM To Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM@IBMIN cc tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject Re: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey > Thanks, but that link says Turkish DST starts at 01:00 GMT (i.e., at > 03:00 local time) and ends at 01:00 GMT (i.e., at 04:00 local time). > This agrees with the current tz database. But Amar Devegowda reported > that Turkish DST actually starts at 01:00 local time and ends at 02:00 > local time. Steffen Thorsen of timeanddate.com agreed, and cited > Turkish newspaper reports from 1996 through 2001. > > I'm inclined to go with Devegowda and Thorsen, but what would be > helpful is an official source (e.g., a citation from Turkish law) that > says exactly when this practice started. So far, all we know is that > the current Turkish practice started before 1996, which is a bit > vague. I don't have any authoritative source but I can add a little context to this. Turkey is attempting to join the European Union (it's listed as a candidate country on the <http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/> page). This is proving a long and painful process. It may be that Turkey has officially switched to the EU 01:00 UTC clock change time recently as part of this EU application process. It may be that the website is just confused, showing all pages under the european-union directory as using EU rules even if they don't. I would also go with Devegowda and Thorsen, mainly on the basis that I think it's very unlikely that a country that far east would use 01:00 UTC unless forced to by something like EU rules. Newspaper reports of 01:00 local time are much more credible. Peter Ilieve peter(a)aldie.co.uk

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FW: Jordan daylight savings
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Hilal Malawi, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list, should direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: hsm6second(a)mac.com [mailto:hsm6second@mac.com] Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:06 AM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Jordan daylight savings A local newspaper article this past Wednesday here in Amman listed Jordan's policy regarding daylight saving as follows: DST starts at midnight on the last Thursday in March (i.e. midnight wed/thu) DST ends at 1:00 am on the last Friday in October This first went into effect in 2006 (see Sept 2006 messages from Steffen Thorsen and myself in TZ mailing list archive) Please note that TZ's current settings need to be updated for DST end. Thanks. Hilal Malawi

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FW: Using Tru64 cc, compile problems tzcode2007.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Donald White, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado ________________________________ From: Donald.White(a)l-3com.com [mailto:Donald.White@l-3com.com] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:14 PM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Using Tru64 cc, compile problems tzcode2007.tar.gz can compile Makefile using gcc just fine. When compile using Dec Tru64 cc get the following error message. example cc: Error: zic.c, line 2647: In the definition of the function "mkdirs", the promoted type of agrname is incompatible with the type of the corresponding parameter in a prior declaration. char * const argname ------^ " any thoughts..?? Thanks - Don -

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FW: Pulaski County, Indiana changes time zone effective March 11, 2007
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 20, 2007

Feb. 20, 2007

I'm forwarding this message from Nathan Stratton Treadway, who is not on the time zone mailing list (at least not at the address shown below). Those of you who are on the time zone mailing list should direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Stratton Treadway [mailto:nathanst@ontko.com] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:01 PM To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Pulaski County, Indiana changes time zone effective March 11, 2007 As a followup to the discussion on Feb 10: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/1396/focus=1490 here's the DOT ruling related to Pulaski County, Indiana's change from from Central To Eastern effective March 11, 2007: http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.cfm?documentid=450729&docketid=26442 Nathan p.s. I noticed the mailing list archive file at ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz was last updated on "02/05/07 15:36:00", two weeks ago. Is it normal for the archive to be that far out of date? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Nathan Stratton Treadway - nathanst(a)ontko.com - Mid-Atlantic region Ray Ontko & Co. - Software consulting services - http://www.ontko.com/ GPG Key: http://www.ontko.com/~nathanst/gpg_key.txt ID: 1023D/ECFB6239 Key fingerprint = 6AD8 485E 20B9 5C71 231C 0C32 15F3 ADCD ECFB 6239

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Pulaski County, Indiana changes time zone effective March 11, 2007
by Nathan Stratton Treadway Feb. 19, 2007

Feb. 19, 2007

As a followup to the discussion on Feb 10: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.time.tz/1396/focus=1490 here's the DOT ruling related to Pulaski County, Indiana's change from from Central To Eastern effective March 11, 2007: http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.cfm?documentid=450729&docketid=26442 Nathan p.s. I noticed the mailing list archive file at ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzarchive.gz was last updated on "02/05/07 15:36:00", two weeks ago. Is it normal for the archive to be that far out of date? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nathan Stratton Treadway - nathanst(a)ontko.com - Mid-Atlantic region Ray Ontko & Co. - Software consulting services - http://www.ontko.com/ GPG Key: http://www.ontko.com/~nathanst/gpg_key.txt ID: 1023D/ECFB6239 Key fingerprint = 6AD8 485E 20B9 5C71 231C 0C32 15F3 ADCD ECFB 6239

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Using Tru64 cc, compile problems tzcode2007.tar.gz
by Donald.White＠l-3com.com Feb. 19, 2007

Feb. 19, 2007

can compile Makefile using gcc just fine. When compile using Dec Tru64 cc get the following error message. example cc: Error: zic.c, line 2647: In the definition of the function "mkdirs", the promoted type of agrname is incompatible with the type of the corresponding parameter in a prior declaration. char * const argname ------^ " any thoughts..?? Thanks - Don -

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Jordan daylight savings
by hsm6second＠mac.com Feb. 18, 2007

Feb. 18, 2007

A local newspaper article this past Wednesday here in Amman listed Jordan's policy regarding daylight saving as follows: DST starts at midnight on the last Thursday in March (i.e. midnight wed/thu) DST ends at 1:00 am on the last Friday in October This first went into effect in 2006 (see Sept 2006 messages from Steffen Thorsen and myself in TZ mailing list archive) Please note that TZ's current settings need to be updated for DST end. Thanks. Hilal Malawi

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Question on naming convention
by Sameer Tyagi Feb. 17, 2007

Feb. 17, 2007

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Fw: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey
by Nirav Jk Vora Feb. 14, 2007

Feb. 14, 2007

Hi All, Just following up to see if someone could provide some inputs to my previous mail which is below. Just wanted to check as this is urgent for the customer. With Warm Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nirav J Vora Team member, JVM L3 Support(AIX) IBM India Software Lab, Bangalore ( Office: +91-8025094142 È Mobile: +91-9945383481 + e-Mail: nirav.vora(a)in.ibm.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ JVM Diagnostics Reference @ IBM Internal: http://w3.hursley.ibm.com/java/jim/j2se/ibmproduceddocumentation/javadiagno… External: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Forwarded by Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM on 02/14/2007 08:19 AM ----- Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM 02/10/2007 08:41 AM To tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov cc Subject Re: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey Hi All, Thank you all for your replies. I have gone back conveying the same to the customer. Here is what they have had to say: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- According to following link; http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/turkey/ turkey time zone settings are as follow which is valid now. Standard Time = GMT+2 Summer Time = GMT+3 According to following link; http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/timezone.html?n=107&syear=2000 29 Ekim 2006 Pazar, 01:59:59 1 hour +3 hours EEST 29 Ekim 2006 Pazar, 01:00:00 No +2 hours EET DST ends 25 Mart 2007 Pazar, 00:59:59 No +2 hours EET 25 Mart 2007 Pazar, 02:00:00 1 hour +3 hours EEST DST starts which is consistent with the previous information. To support the below information,I have taken the official newspaper of the government which had declared to regulate the time settings.I have talked with the staff of the government. They said that this declaration is the last daylight saving declaration announced by the government with official newspaper and today rules are valid for this declaration. I am sending the image of the fax that is sent by the government. The newspaper is normally in Turkish. I want to explain it briefly: "26 Mart 2000 Pazar günü saat 01:00'den itibaren bir saat ileri al?nmas?" means "clocks will be set 1 hour forward (will be GMT+3 ) on 26 March 2000 Sunday at 01:00" 01:00 is the local time (23:00 GMT Saturday) and "29 Ekim 200 Pazar günü saat 02:00'den itibaren bir saat geri al?nmas?" means "clocks will be set 1 hour back (will be GMT+2 ) on 29 October 2000 Sunday at 02:00" 02:00 is the local time (23:00 GMT Satruday) I think these documents are enough to show the daylight saving policy of Turkey is: Standard Time = GMT+2 Summer Time = GMT+3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So to summarize, the customer has provided a citation from the turkish government which tells about the latest DST rules. I have attached the jpg in this mail. Please review the same and provide your inputs as to whether this information would suffice to change the database timezone rules for Turkey. With Warm Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nirav J Vora Team member, JVM L3 Support(AIX) IBM India Software Lab, Bangalore ( Office: +91-8025094142 È Mobile: +91-9945383481 + e-Mail: nirav.vora(a)in.ibm.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ JVM Diagnostics Reference @ IBM Internal: http://w3.hursley.ibm.com/java/jim/j2se/ibmproduceddocumentation/javadiagno… External: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/diagnosis/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Ilieve <peter(a)aldie.co.uk> 02/01/2007 02:58 PM To Nirav Jk Vora/India/IBM@IBMIN cc tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject Re: DST rules for Istanbul, Turkey > Thanks, but that link says Turkish DST starts at 01:00 GMT (i.e., at > 03:00 local time) and ends at 01:00 GMT (i.e., at 04:00 local time). > This agrees with the current tz database. But Amar Devegowda reported > that Turkish DST actually starts at 01:00 local time and ends at 02:00 > local time. Steffen Thorsen of timeanddate.com agreed, and cited > Turkish newspaper reports from 1996 through 2001. > > I'm inclined to go with Devegowda and Thorsen, but what would be > helpful is an official source (e.g., a citation from Turkish law) that > says exactly when this practice started. So far, all we know is that > the current Turkish practice started before 1996, which is a bit > vague. I don't have any authoritative source but I can add a little context to this. Turkey is attempting to join the European Union (it's listed as a candidate country on the <http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/european-union/> page). This is proving a long and painful process. It may be that Turkey has officially switched to the EU 01:00 UTC clock change time recently as part of this EU application process. It may be that the website is just confused, showing all pages under the european-union directory as using EU rules even if they don't. I would also go with Devegowda and Thorsen, mainly on the basis that I think it's very unlikely that a country that far east would use 01:00 UTC unless forced to by something like EU rules. Newspaper reports of 01:00 local time are much more credible. Peter Ilieve peter(a)aldie.co.uk

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