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Fiji and Tonga has stopped using DST
by Steffen Thorsen Dec. 5, 2000

Dec. 5, 2000

Risto Nykänen <ristonykanen(a)luukku.com> has reported to me that both Tonga and Fiji has stopped using DST. I have tried to research this a little bit further, and found an official statement about Fiji: from http://www.fiji.gov.fj/core/press/2000_09_26_4.html > The interim government has decided not to introduce "daylight saving" > this year. > > A spokesman for the Ministry of Labour said the decision follows > strong opposition from some commercial enterprises and the Ministry of > Education who were concerned about the disruptions caused to school > children, especially during the examination periods. > This means that as from Sunday 4th, November, there will be no change > as normal standard time will keep on operating. I have not found anything for Tonga, but it is actually no surprise if they have stopped using DST, as the "first into year 2000" hype has ended. Back in March I found a notice on the website http://www.tongaonline.com that Tonga changed back to standard time one month early, on March 19 instead of the original reported date April 16. Unfortunately, the article is no longer available on the site, and I did not make a copy of the text, and I have forgotten to report it here. (Original URL was: http://www.tongaonline.com/news/march162000.htm ) Regards, Steffen -- Steffen Thorsen <steffen(a)thorsen.priv.no> <steffent(a)pvv.ntnu.no> http://www.thorsen.priv.no

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TZ and DST changes for East Timor and Dominican Republic
by Steffen Thorsen Dec. 5, 2000

Dec. 5, 2000

* East Timor seems to have changed time zone from GMT+8 to GMT+9, around the end of September. * The Dominican Republic is now using the same time zone as Eastern US with DST during summer (EST/EDT). detail information: East Timor: Charles C. Schlegel" <chucks(a)bkk3.loxinfo.co.th> reported this: > I have just returned from East Timor, and have discovered that the UN > Transitional Authority there has decided to change the time zone of > the country. I think it took effect at the end of September. E. > Timor time is now 2 hours ahead of Bangkok, not one hour as before. > > I don't know just who you could contact to get formal confirmation of > this. The political/administrative structure in E. Timor is still > very much in a state of evolution. The legal governing body at > present is = the UN Transitional Authority for East Timor (UNTAET). Dominican Republic: Enrique Morales <emorales(a)pnud.org.do> reported to me that the Dominican Republic has changed the time zone to Eastern Standard Time as of Sunday 29 at 2 am. Some sort of "official" statement is available in Spanish here: http://www.listin.com.do/antes/261000/republica/princi.html Use of http://babelfish.altavista.com to "translate" to English: > Power Executive modified last night decree previous which the next > Sunday 29 arranged to retard in one hour the clocks in all the country > to 12:00 of the midnight, that now will be the same day but to 2:00 of > the dawn, to avoid probable disadvantages in the services of > telecommunications. > > Decree 1011, emitted last night, arranges that > the delay is from the 2:00 of the dawn of the same Sunday 29, instead > of the 12:00 of the midnight of that same day, as it established the > previous one, the 820-00, of the 25 of last September. The new decree > arranges in addition that the Sunday first of April of next year 2001, > to 2:00 of the dawn, all the clocks are advanced in one hour. [continues ...] I have some other tz updates to report as well, I hope to have them ready tomorrow. Best regards, Steffen -- Steffen Thorsen <steffen(a)thorsen.priv.no> <steffent(a)pvv.ntnu.no> http://www.thorsen.priv.no

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RE: Brazil again
by Jesper Nørgaard Dec. 4, 2000

Dec. 4, 2000

The recent changes to abandon DST in the states Pernambuco and Roraima as of October 15, and Alagoas, Sergipe, Paraíba, Rio Grande do Norte, Ceará, Piauí and Maranhão as of October 21, will surely make necessary to invent new time zone items in the TZ database. But I suggest two more changes that are not directly generated from these events. I checked out the pages mentioned by Steffen Thorsen http://pcdsh01.on.br/DecHV.html and found a couple of pages that should be of interest Brazil on Standard Time: http://pcdsh01.on.br/Fusbr.htm Brazil on Daylight Time: http://pcdsh01.on.br/Fusbrhv.htm Unfortunately these two pages have not been updated as per the last changes from 15.th. and 21.st October 2000, but they reflect well how the situation was supposed to be before those dates. NEW TIMEZONE IN AMAZONAS Since the TZ database for Brazil has been elaborated per state, we have an obligation to document the exceptions from that. In the case of Amazonas we only have one entry "America/Manaus" on GMT-4.0 without DST, but according to the pages there is a region of the Amazonas State with GMT-5.0 without DST (like Acre or the "America/Porto_Acre" entry). The city information I have about this follows here: GMT-4.0 without DST @ Brazil - Amazonas East, Manaus,-3.10,-60.00 Borba,-4.39,-59.59 Coarí,-4.11,-63.14 Fonte Boa,-2.53,-66.02 Humaitá,-7.52,-63.02 Lábrea,-7.27,-64.78 Moura,-4.12,-63.42 Bôca do Acre,-8.75,-67.38 Jutaí,-5.18,-68.90 Floriano Peixoto,-9.07,-67.42 GMT-5.0 without DST @ Brazil - Amazonas West, Atalaia do Norte,-4.33,-70.20 Benjamin Constant,-4.37,-70.03 Eirunepé,-6.67,-69.87 Envira,-7.30,-70.22 Ipixuna,-7.57,-72.60 The format is {@ Country/State} City, Latitude, Longitude Therefore I suggest to put a second entry in the TZ database for Amazonas as "America/Atalaia_do_Norte" or something like that. FERNANDO DO NORONHA ON DST According to these official pages, Fernando do Noronha has been on DST for some while back (e.g. before October 15 where the status probably changed). This is as a contrast to other islands like Trindade and Martin Vaz, which have not been on DST according to the pages. This change to the status of Fernando do Noronha could well be linked with the change of status of the islands from being "self ruling" to be under the rule of state Pernambuco. I don't have information when these events should have happened, but the issue is worthwhile investigating. The ironic thing is that at this point when I'm reporting that Fernando do Noronha has been on DST, it most probably is no longer on DST. This is because it now is under Pernambuco State rule, and since Pernambuco abandoned DST on October 15, probably the island did the same. By the way the TZ database is mentioning Fernando do Noronha as "Fernando de Noronha". I believe it should be spelled with "do" instead of "de". Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Programador/Analista CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT, Lisboa 27, 06600 Mexico, D.F. Tel.: +52 (5) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (5) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 CIMMYT home page: http://cimmyt.cgiar.org Check out my Time Zone Converter: http://timezone50.homepage.com ---------- From: Steffen Thorsen[SMTP:straen@thorsen.priv.no] Sent: Martes 31 de Octubre de 2000 17.09 To: Time Zone List Subject: Brazil again I forgot one entry in my last mail: Manoel Andrade <mandrade(a)hotlink.com.br> reported to me that some states/territories in Brazil have stopped using DST, just about a week after the DST period started. Now looking at the official page http://pcdsh01.on.br/DecHV.html : It seems that Pernambuco and Roraima stopped using DST on 15 October at midnight. Then, just one week later, Sergipe, Alagoas, Paraiba, Rio Grande do Norte, Ceará, Piauí and Maranhão stopped using DST on 22 October at midnight. Regards, Steffen -- Steffen Thorsen <steffen(a)thorsen.priv.no> <steffent(a)pvv.ntnu.no> http://www.thorsen.priv.no

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Re: NTP and POSIX Time in conflict?
by Bradley White Dec. 4, 2000

Dec. 4, 2000

> 1. I have heard it claimed that the broken-ness of posix time > prevented NTP from handling leap seconds correctly. Would you care > to comment on this? Specifically, what specific brokenness causes > what problem? POSIX legislates a particular mapping between time_t's and the time of day (e.g., 536457599 shall correspond to "Wed Dec 31 23:59:59 UTC 1986"). So, POSIX time must be adjusted over leap seconds. The premier NTP implementation goes to convoluted lengths to perform that adjustment. The "correct" way to handle leap seconds is a matter of opinion, but `ado-right' stalwarts would contend that using a continuous time base results in a better system, and treating time_t as opaque gets you there. See time2posix(3) in the ado source for more details. Bradley

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RE: Asia/Dacca Spelling
by Olson, Arthur David (NCI) Dec. 4, 2000

Dec. 4, 2000

> The following was reported by Steve Minkin regarding the current time zone > Asia/Dacca. Please note that Steve is not on this distribution list. Should > the spelling for this time zone be changed? Should an alias be defined? > "Please note that about 10 years ago the spelling of the capital of > bangladesh changed from Dacca to Dhaka. No one uses Dacca any more." A search at www.un.org yields 30 hits on Dhaka and one on Dacca. The page http://www.xrefer.com/entry/501998, attributed to "The Macmillan Encyclopedia 2001, © Market House Books Ltd 2000," contains: "Dhaka (name until 1982: Dacca)." So...my sense is that the thing to change "Zone Asia/Dacca" to "Zone Asia/Dhaka" and add a "Link Asia/Dhaka Asia/Dacca" to the "backward" file. --ado

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DST under Linux
by Tomasz Gralewski Dec. 4, 2000

Dec. 4, 2000

Hello, I'm Tomasz How can I set DST under Linux for Polish Time Zone. My TZ=Polish without UTC, time is coded by CET, in this settings the time movement doesn't work propertly. Please help me. Tomasz

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Some older Summer Time Orders now online
by Joseph S. Myers Dec. 3, 2000

Dec. 3, 2000

Some British Government web sites have lately been getting older publications online (mainly so far, I think, data they already had in electronic form but was only available if at all on expensive CD-ROMs or subscription databases) - including Acts back to 1988, Statutory Instruments back to 1987 and Hansard back to 1988. Accordingly, my web page now links to the Summer Time Orders 1988, 1989, 1992 and 1994. http://student.cusu.cam.ac.uk/~jsm28/british-time/ -- Joseph S. Myers jsm28(a)cam.ac.uk

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Rumours about DST changes in Mexico
by Jesper Nørgaard Dec. 3, 2000

Dec. 3, 2000

I found an article that is 1 month old, about a daylight saving change in Mexico which Vicente Fox apparently has suggested before he came to power. No changes have been implemented yet, but the new elected president Vicente Fox seems to agree with his presidential candidate opponent Labastida that daylight saving should not be discontinued, but maybe reduced with a couple of months, e.g. starting one month later and ending one month earlier: http://www.reforma.com/nacional/articulo/044581/ unfortunately the article is in spanish, but it doesn't say much more than what I was referring, at least of interest to this mailing list. The article is from 29.th. of October, e.g. right after leaving daylight saving in Mexico. Details about implementation are not there, and I'm pretty sure the decision has not been taken yet. Vicente Fox just became acting president this Friday December 1, 2000. I wonder if they have taken into consideration the disadvantages of having 2 months of the year a different hour than similar zones in USA, the main receiver of exports from Mexico. Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Programador/Analista CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT, Lisboa 27, 06600 Mexico, D.F. Tel.: +52 (5) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (5) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 CIMMYT home page: http://cimmyt.cgiar.org Check out my Time Zone Converter: http://timezone50.homepage.com

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RE: Nunavut (northern Canada) changes time zones again
by Jesper Nørgaard Nov. 30, 2000

Nov. 30, 2000

There was news about the Nunavut time zones in Nuniatsaq News the 10.th. of November, but I didn't see it until today. The link is http://www.nunatsiag.com/archives/nunavut001130/nvt21110_02.html although this seems to be a dynamic address with date and time; Check out the Nunatsiaq News archives from 10.th of November to find the article, if the above doesn't work. Quote: "After a week of confusion, clocks in the territory's westernmost hamlets are now synchronized - an hour behind the rest of Nunavut. The Nunavut government last week retreated from its unified-time-zone policy, permitting Kugluktuk and Cambridge Bay to stay on central time for the winter. ... Anawak said the Nunavut government would allow its employees in Kugluktuk and Cambridge Bay to operate on central time year-round, putting them one hour behind the rest of Nunavut for six months during the winter." The only way I can get this to match, is if Kugluktuk and Cambridge Bay will be on Central Time all year round (e.g. GMT-6 with DST) while the rest of the central and eastern Nunavut will be on Eastern Standard Time all year round (e.g. GMT-5 without DST), so that during winter Kugluktuk will be one hour behind, and in the summer will be on the same time as the rest of Nunavut. This implicitly means that Central and Eastern Nunavut does *not* have daylight saving. I wonder if any of you have any comments on this, or more official documentation. The above article seems to go to great lengths to express daylight saving issues without mentioning the (forbidden?) term "daylight saving". Perhaps it has become too political in Nunavut to imply that you can gain something with "daylight saving" ;) ? Can the article be interpreted any other way? Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Programador/Analista CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT, Lisboa 27, 06600 Mexico, D.F. Tel.: +52 (5) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (5) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 CIMMYT home page: http://cimmyt.cgiar.org Check out my Time Zone Converter: http://timezone50.homepage.com ---------- From: Rich Wales[SMTP:richw@webcom.com] Sent: Martes 7 de Noviembre de 2000 5.19 To: tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject: Nunavut (northern Canada) changes time zones again http://www.nationalpost.com/stories/20001107/360812.html Nunavut (formerly the eastern part of Canada's Northwest Territories) has been struggling with time zones for over a year. The territory originally straddled three zones, and efforts to impose a single time for all of Nunavut have met with vocal opposition. The latest change (effective Mon. 2000-11-06) appears to keep most of the territory on UTC-5h (i.e., CDT in summer and EST in winter) year- round. However, some communities in western Nunavut will set their clocks an hour earlier, to UTC-6h. The news story didn't make it clear whether western Nunavut would change its clocks in the summer or not. Also, the National Research Council -- Canada's federal regulatory body for time zones -- hasn't updated its maps yet (http://www.nrc.ca/inms/time/tze.html) to reflect the latest change in Nunavut. Rich Wales richw(a)webcom.com http://www.webcom.com/richw/

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TZ Database
by Jacob, Brad [IT] Nov. 28, 2000

Nov. 28, 2000

Dear Sirs, I'm having trouble with downloading the TZ database. The address keeps coming up as invalid. Could you please send me a copy of this TZ database? I'm a developer and need something like this for my project. Thank You, Brad Jacob

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Re-entrant, any-zone mktime()-equivalent?
by Jonathan Lennox Nov. 17, 2000

Nov. 17, 2000

Has anyone ever developed patches for tzcode to support a function that is the equivalent of timelocal()/mktime() and timegm() for arbitrary time zones? What I'm looking for is something that would be the rough equivalent of: time_t timetz(struct tm *tm, char *tz) { time_t t; char *oldTZ = getenv("TZ"); setenv("TZ", tz, 1); tzset(); t = mktime(tm); if (oldTZ != NULL) { setenv("TZ", oldTZ, 1); } else { unsetenv("TZ"); } tzset(); return t; } However, I'd like to have a function which a) worked correctly in multi-threaded environments, and b) reported an error message if the timezone string was invalid, rather than just falling back to GMT. I need this for a Internet Telephony server which needs to support time-of-day routing for users in arbitrary timezones, and I want to use the TZ database names to identify these timezones. (This is for an implementation of the Call Processing Language, soon (pending IESG approval) to be an IETF Proposed Standard. <http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~lennox/draft-ietf-iptel-cpl-04.txt>.) Obviously, writing such a function would require some fairly intrusive hacking on tzcode -- especially since tzcode uses static variables rather liberally. Before I start bashing on the code, I'd appreciate any advice anyone else has, especially if the work's already been done. Thanks for any advice or pointers anyone can give! -- Jonathan Lennox lennox(a)cs.columbia.edu

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Nunavut (northern Canada) changes time zones again
by Rich Wales Nov. 7, 2000

Nov. 7, 2000

http://www.nationalpost.com/stories/20001107/360812.html Nunavut (formerly the eastern part of Canada's Northwest Territories) has been struggling with time zones for over a year. The territory originally straddled three zones, and efforts to impose a single time for all of Nunavut have met with vocal opposition. The latest change (effective Mon. 2000-11-06) appears to keep most of the territory on UTC-5h (i.e., CDT in summer and EST in winter) year- round. However, some communities in western Nunavut will set their clocks an hour earlier, to UTC-6h. The news story didn't make it clear whether western Nunavut would change its clocks in the summer or not. Also, the National Research Council -- Canada's federal regulatory body for time zones -- hasn't updated its maps yet (http://www.nrc.ca/inms/time/tze.html) to reflect the latest change in Nunavut. Rich Wales richw(a)webcom.com http://www.webcom.com/richw/

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Brazil: Fernando de Noronha
by Oscar van Vlijmen Nov. 7, 2000

Nov. 7, 2000

I have checked this against the large Times atlas and my grammar Portuguese. The atlas says Fernando de Noronha. The preposition 'de' means just: from, of. 'Do' however is a contraction of the preposition 'de' and the article 'o'. I believe it's therefore correct to say Rio Grande do Norte (in the North) and Mato Grosso do Sul (in the South), but Fernando de Noronha (from Noronha). Regards, Oscar van Vlijmen 2000-11-07

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FW: timezone information for Rarotonga / Cook Islands
by Olson, Arthur David (NCI) Nov. 6, 2000

Nov. 6, 2000

Robert McFadzien is not on the time zone mailing list; direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Robert McFadzien [mailto:robert@telecom.co.ck] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2000 4:39 PM To: 'tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov' Subject: timezone information for Rarotonga / Cook Islands Can you please confirm the timezone information that you have for Rarotonga / Cook Islands (South Pacific) Rarotonga should be GMT -10.00. There is no daylight saving. =========================== Robert McFadzien Information Systems Manager Telecom Cook Islands Ph. # +682 26171 Ext 225 Fax # +682 26174 Email: robert(a)telecom.co.ck ===========================

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timezone information for Rarotonga / Cook Islands
by Robert McFadzien Nov. 6, 2000

Nov. 6, 2000

Can you please confirm the timezone information that you have for Rarotonga / Cook Islands (South Pacific) Rarotonga should be GMT -10.00. There is no daylight saving. =========================== Robert McFadzien Information Systems Manager Telecom Cook Islands Ph. # +682 26171 Ext 225 Fax # +682 26174 Email: robert(a)telecom.co.ck ===========================

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RE: LHI daylight savings (fwd)
by Jesper Nørgaard Nov. 4, 2000

Nov. 4, 2000

James Lonergan's confirmation that LHI always advanced clocks going into DST at 2:00 local time, refutes the idea that Sydney and LHI has always been in sync, apart from the half hour difference while not in DST. I guess I overinterpreted James Lonergan, and apologize for that. I should have asked him instead (I thought I did, but couldn't find the mail, so I probably didn't). I agree that the patch should be rolled back. We should document history in the time zone area, not invent it :) Seen in retrospect, this was probably not a very good guess either. Only EEC (the western part of Europe) has notably made a system where all the countries are going in and out of DST the exact same second (in GMT) while not even USA is doing that, much less Canada, Russia or even Australia (from which Lord Howe Island belongs). Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Programador/Analista CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT, Lisboa 27, 06600 Mexico, D.F. Tel.: +52 (5) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (5) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 CIMMYT home page: http://cimmyt.cgiar.org Check out my Time Zone Converter: http://timezone50.homepage.com ---------- From: David Keegel[SMTP:djk@cyber.com.au] Sent: Martes 24 de Octubre de 2000 19.47 To: tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject: Re: LHI daylight savings (fwd) I wrote to James Lonergan to clarify the situation about what time DST starts on Lord Howe Island exactly. ----- Forwarded message from James Lonergan ----- From: "James Lonergan" <kingfish(a)bigpond.com> To: "David Keegel" <djk(a)cyber.com.au> Subject: Re: LHI daylight savings My apologies for not responding earlier...I have been on leave. Lord Howe Island advances clocks by 30 minutes during DST in NSW and retards clocks by 30 minutes when DST finishes. Since DST was most recently introduced in NSW, the "changeover" time on the Island has been 02:00 as shown on clocks on LHI. I guess this means that for 30 minutes at the start of DST, LHI is actually 1 hour ahead of the rest of NSW. Regards Jim Lonergan ----- End of forwarded message from James Lonergan ----- So could we please back-out the following patch: =================================================================== RCS file: RCS/australasia,v retrieving revision 2000.6 retrieving revision 2000.6.0.1 diff -pu -r2000.6 -r2000.6.0.1 --- australasia 2000/08/10 13:31:51 2000.6 +++ australasia 2000/10/03 06:01:09 2000.6.0.1 @@ -153,14 +153,14 @@ Zone Australia/Broken_Hill 9:25:48 - LMT # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule LH 1981 1984 - Oct lastSun 2:00s 1:00 - Rule LH 1982 1985 - Mar Sun>=1 2:00s 0 - -Rule LH 1985 only - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0:30 - -Rule LH 1986 1989 - Mar Sun>=15 2:00s 0 - -Rule LH 1986 only - Oct 19 2:00s 0:30 - -Rule LH 1987 1999 - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0:30 - -Rule LH 1990 1995 - Mar Sun>=1 2:00s 0 - -Rule LH 1996 max - Mar lastSun 2:00s 0 - -Rule LH 2000 only - Aug lastSun 2:00s 0:30 - -Rule LH 2001 max - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0:30 - +Rule LH 1985 only - Oct lastSun 2:30s 0:30 - +Rule LH 1986 1989 - Mar Sun>=15 2:30s 0 - +Rule LH 1986 only - Oct 19 2:30s 0:30 - +Rule LH 1987 1999 - Oct lastSun 2:30s 0:30 - +Rule LH 1990 1995 - Mar Sun>=1 2:30s 0 - +Rule LH 1996 max - Mar lastSun 2:30s 0 - +Rule LH 2000 only - Aug lastSun 2:30s 0:30 - +Rule LH 2001 max - Oct lastSun 2:30s 0:30 - Zone Australia/Lord_Howe 10:36:20 - LMT 1895 Feb 10:00 - EST 1981 Mar 10:30 LH LHST -# From Paul Eggert (2000-01-31): -# For Lord Howe we use Shanks through 1989, and Lonergan thereafter. +# From Jesper Norgaard <jnorgard(a)Prodigy.net.mx> (2000-09-04): +# James Lonergan said that the island always tries to stay in sync +# with the rest of NSW at all time except for the fact that they stay +# ahead half an hour when DST is not observed. If this is interpreted +# literally, they should change clocks at the exact moment that +# e.g. Canberra changes from normal to daylight saving and vice versa. + +# From Paul Eggert (2000-10-02): +# For Lord Howe we use Shanks through 1989, and Lonergan thereafter, +# However, as per Norgaard we modify Shanks by assuming 02:30s switchover +# for half-hour DST. __________________________________________________________________________ David Keegel <djk(a)cyber.com.au> URL: http://www.cyber.com.au/users/djk/ Cybersource P/L: Unix Systems Administration and TCP/IP network management

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week starts at Sunday or Monday??
by Christoph Bugel Nov. 2, 2000

Nov. 2, 2000

I've written a nice Date Time class library to get a grip on Daylight Saving Time bugs. It is mostly a wrapper around the existing stuff from #include <time.h>, but the idea is to force the user to forget about those, and be forced to think what timezone he is talking about. (I have a class TZone, which user MUST supply if he want to construct a date, or if he want to break it down into readable fields). and also the idea is to make clear what the isdst flag semantics are, etc. I am putting the finishing touches, and I now decide on a few trivial questions (which seem inportant anyhoow..) (1) I decided to have the MONTH and the WeekDay 1-based (in struct tm they start at zero). I guess there are arguments for both, but I didn't like the inconsistency between weekday (0-6) and monthday (1-31). also, if month is (0-11) I have to add 1 before printing, because users are definitely used to december as month 12, not month 11. so my question is.... now that I decided that days are niumbere 1 to 7, what is day 1 ??? is it Sunday, or Monday? what is the Right Thing to do? regards, Christoph

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Brazil again
by Steffen Thorsen Oct. 31, 2000

Oct. 31, 2000

I forgot one entry in my last mail: Manoel Andrade <mandrade(a)hotlink.com.br> reported to me that some states/territories in Brazil have stopped using DST, just about a week after the DST period started. Now looking at the official page http://pcdsh01.on.br/DecHV.html : It seems that Pernambuco and Roraima stopped using DST on 15 October at midnight. Then, just one week later, Sergipe, Alagoas, Paraiba, Rio Grande do Norte, Ceará, Piauí and Maranhão stopped using DST on 22 October at midnight. Regards, Steffen -- Steffen Thorsen <steffen(a)thorsen.priv.no> <steffent(a)pvv.ntnu.no> http://www.thorsen.priv.no

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FW: Time Map
by Olson, Arthur David (NCI) Oct. 31, 2000

Oct. 31, 2000

Marek Olszewski is not on the time zone mailing list; direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Marek Olszewski [mailto:olszewski_marek@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 4:46 AM To: tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject: Time Map Some people replied showing interest in my program (Time Map). If you are interested then take a look at www.timemap.f2s.com, the site is still under construction but it has a few screenshots and descriptions of the program. The program itself is still in the beta stage, however this should change hopefully in the next week or so. If you are interested in beta testing, please give me an email. I will allow for a few testers however I would expect useful comments and criticisms in exchange for the free software. That's about it... oh and if anyone knows anything about Kazakhstan Time Zones or knows of any place where I can find any information about them then please email me. Thanks! Marek O.

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Time Map
by Marek Olszewski Oct. 31, 2000

Oct. 31, 2000

Some people replied showing interest in my program (Time Map). If you are interested then take a look at www.timemap.f2s.com, the site is still under construction but it has a few screenshots and descriptions of the program. The program itself is still in the beta stage, however this should change hopefully in the next week or so. If you are interested in beta testing, please give me an email. I will allow for a few testers however I would expect useful comments and criticisms in exchange for the free software. That's about it... oh and if anyone knows anything about Kazakhstan Time Zones or knows of any place where I can find any information about them then please email me. Thanks! Marek O.

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Quick start for new member
by Floriano Oct. 30, 2000

Oct. 30, 2000

Dear Friends, PLEASE! As a new member of this listing, I think it's a little bit hard to understand how to use the TZ database, I tried to read all files, but I don't get the right information. Somebody could tell me about: 1. Is there some readme files explaining how to use the tz code and database? 2. Is there some demo program or tutorial about TZ ? 3. Is there another sites about the TZ database? PLEASE! I really need to understand TZ. I know C language very well. I just couldn't figure out how to use TZ. I would like to build a program that shows by country the TZ and DLS info. Somebody pick a country and some date, and the program will say if that time was in DLS and what TZ was that time. Thanks in advance! Floriano Caldeira floriano(a)ilhanet.com.br

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FW: Quick start for new member
by Olson, Arthur David (NCI) Oct. 30, 2000

Oct. 30, 2000

Floriano is not on the time zone mailing list; direct replies appropriately. My best guess is that focusing on the... I would like to build a program that shows by country the TZ and DLS info. Somebody pick a country and some date, and the program will say if that time was in DLS and what TZ was that time. ...part of the letter might provide an answer that allows Floriano to avoid reinventing the wheel. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Floriano [mailto:floriano@ilhanet.com.br] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 3:16 PM To: TZ Mailing List Subject: Quick start for new member Dear Friends, PLEASE! As a new member of this listing, I think it's a little bit hard to understand how to use the TZ database, I tried to read all files, but I don't get the right information. Somebody could tell me about: 1. Is there some readme files explaining how to use the tz code and database? 2. Is there some demo program or tutorial about TZ ? 3. Is there another sites about the TZ database? PLEASE! I really need to understand TZ. I know C language very well. I just couldn't figure out how to use TZ. I would like to build a program that shows by country the TZ and DLS info. Somebody pick a country and some date, and the program will say if that time was in DLS and what TZ was that time. Thanks in advance! Floriano Caldeira floriano(a)ilhanet.com.br <mailto:floriano@ilhanet.com.br>

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Partnership in Italy
by Dr. L.Buffa Oct. 30, 2000

Oct. 30, 2000

PROGEST S.r.l. Largo Franchì, 8 91100 TRAPANI ITALY Tel. +39 / 0923 26798 Fax. +39 / 0923 546507 e-mail: progest(a)progest.it To: The person in charge for seafood area. Dear Sir/Madame, our company, PROGEST S.r.l. is currently extending its commercial connections. We are leader in Italy in the area of Import/Export of seafood. We would like to get in contact with you directly considering that one of our agents is coming over. We would be pleased to receive from you the address and telephone number of your head-office and if possible details of your production. Dr. L. Buffa Trading Branch.

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Partnership in Italy
by Luigi Oct. 30, 2000

Oct. 30, 2000

PROGEST S.r.l. Largo Franchì, 8 91100 TRAPANI ITALY Tel. +39 / 0923 26798 Fax. +39 / 0923 546507 e-mail: progest(a)progest.it To: The person in charge for seafood area. Dear Sir/Madame, our company, PROGEST S.r.l. is currently extending its commercial connections. We are leader in Italy in the area of Import/Export of seafood. We would like to get in contact with you directly considering that one of our agents is coming over. We would be pleased to receive from you the address and telephone number of your head-office and if possible details of your production. S.Bulgarella Trading Branch.

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