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ooppsss...
by Mirko Fluher March 3, 2009

March 3, 2009

sorry ... ignore my previous message .. the current tzdata file is ok for Australia/Victoria ! Cheers, -- http://pax.apana.org.au gpg key id: EACDC062 pgp.mit.edu Linux #19227 UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing clever things. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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tzdata2009b
by Mirko Fluher March 3, 2009

March 3, 2009

The file tzdata2009b.tar.gz needs to be updated to reflect the new daylight saving of Australia/Victoria ... now moving from March to the first Sunday in April see: http://www.vic.gov.au/news-detail/daylight-saving-has-changed.html Thank you! Cheers, -- http://pax.apana.org.au gpg key id: EACDC062 pgp.mit.edu Linux #19227 UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing clever things. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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FW: Pacific-New
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 25, 2009

Feb. 25, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Bill Unruh, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Bill Unruh [mailto:unruh@physics.ubc.ca] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:35 To: Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Cc: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: RE: Pacific-New On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote: > The "pacificnew" file includes information about legislation that was > introduced (but not passed) in the United States Congress; it serves to > explain why a "Pacific-New" time zone was created in the first place. > Note that the last line of the file is a "Link America/Los_Angeles > US/Pacific-New" line, meaning that using either name now has the same > effect. I guess I object strongly to including legislative proposals into the tzdata files. If we introduce a new file and a new timezone everytime some government official makes some silly comment about time, the whole edifice will collapse under the weight of that garbage. While the tzdata file is not an official publication it is regarded as pretty authoritiative by most people using computers in the world. It should therefore strive to be accurate and authoritative, and not get bogged down with irrelevancies, and political commentary or jokes (which is the only thing I can imagine that the Pacific-New timezone to be). > > As to jokes and idiocy: there used to be an obscure bit of word play in > an strftime.c comment; > it was eliminated in version 7.40.-) Never saw it. I am not above jokes and wordplay but not when it extends to introducing new time zones in at least semi-authoritative publications. Are we going to get an Okeefenokie time zone because someone likes Pogo-- or a US/BUSH timezone (constantly set to midnight) as political commentary on the last president? That an ill-considered proposal popped up in Congress 20 years ago but was never passed should not be memorialised by a new time zone in tzdata. My response was triggered when a Suse user said his distro assigned Pacific-New to him. Having never seen it before (Mandriva wisely does not have it), I looked at the tzdata file and found it. Please please remove it. > > --ado > -- William G. Unruh | Canadian Institute for| Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Physics&Astronomy | Advanced Research | Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC | Program in Cosmology | unruh(a)physics.ubc.ca Canada V6T 1Z1 | and Gravity | www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/

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FW: Pacific-New
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 22, 2009

Feb. 22, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Bill Unruh, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Bill Unruh [mailto:unruh@physics.ubc.ca] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:18 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Pacific-New Why in the world do you have that joke of a file pacificnew included in the tzdata database? It is a completely stupid joke, or political protest against yet another idiotic bill passed by the House, but never made it anywhere near law. People are actually using Pacific-New as a time zone in various distributions of Linux. tzdata is supposed to be a somewhat authoritative site for time zone info, and not a place for sophmoric jokes or political protest. It makes one think that the rest of your database may be similarly infused with idiocy. Are we going to find new files with protests against Islamic law, or Communist propeganda infiltrating the database next? -- William G. Unruh Canadian Institute for Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Physics&Astronomy Advanced Research Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC Program in Cosmology unruh(a)physics.ubc.ca Canada V6T 1Z1 and Gravity http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ For step by step instructions about setting up ppp under Linux, see http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

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Pacific-New
by Bill Unruh Feb. 22, 2009

Feb. 22, 2009

Why in the world do you have that joke of a file pacificnew included in the tzdata database? It is a completely stupid joke, or political protest against yet another idiotic bill passed by the House, but never made it anywhere near law. People are actually using Pacific-New as a time zone in various distributions of Linux. tzdata is supposed to be a somewhat authoritative site for time zone info, and not a place for sophmoric jokes or political protest. It makes one think that the rest of your database may be similarly infused with idiocy. Are we going to find new files with protests against Islamic law, or Communist propeganda infiltrating the database next? -- William G. Unruh Canadian Institute for Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Physics&Astronomy Advanced Research Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC Program in Cosmology unruh(a)physics.ubc.ca Canada V6T 1Z1 and Gravity http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ For step by step instructions about setting up ppp under Linux, see http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

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Why is there not a Asia/Beijing timezone?
by Matthew Young Feb. 14, 2009

Feb. 14, 2009

The standard time in China is Beijing time. Why is there no Beijing timezone in your database? Microsoft Windows has a Beijing time zone.

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FW: Entry For Europe/Athens
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 13, 2009

Feb. 13, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Luke, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado From: Luke [mailto:spizzer@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:10 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Entry For Europe/Athens Hi, I've been working on a issue with Geosetter which uses your timeinfo database. Please see http://www.geosetter.de/mantis/view.php?id=572 for some more history. This is for Europe 8.20, but Geosetter ships with 8.12. >From this point on we are talking about 8.20 Lines 1212 to 1218 inclusive. FROM Zone Europe/Athens 1:34:52 - LMT 1895 Sep 14 1:34:52 - AMT 1916 Jul 28 0:01 # Athens MT 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1941 Apr 30 1:00 Greece CE%sT 1944 Apr 4 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1981 # Shanks & Pottenger say it switched to C-Eur in 1981; # go with EU instead, since Greece joined it on Jan 1. 2:00 EU EE%sT TO Zone Europe/Athens 1:34:52 - LMT 1895 Sep 14 1:34:52 - AMT 1916 Jul 28 0:01 # Athens MT 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1941 Apr 30 1:00 Greece CE%sT 1944 Apr 4 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1981 2:00 EU EE%sT I'm not sure where the problem lies? Maybe Geosetter can not handle the # out lines within the rules. Regards, Luke

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Entry For Europe/Athens
by Luke Feb. 13, 2009

Feb. 13, 2009

Hi, I've been working on a issue with Geosetter which uses your timeinfo database. Please see http://www.geosetter.de/mantis/view.php?id=572 for some more history. This is for Europe 8.20, but Geosetter ships with 8.12. >From this point on we are talking about 8.20 Lines 1212 to 1218 inclusive. *FROM* Zone Europe/Athens 1:34:52 - LMT 1895 Sep 14 1:34:52 - AMT 1916 Jul 28 0:01 # Athens MT 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1941 Apr 30 1:00 Greece CE%sT 1944 Apr 4 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1981 # Shanks & Pottenger say it switched to C-Eur in 1981; # go with EU instead, since Greece joined it on Jan 1. 2:00 EU EE%sT *TO* Zone Europe/Athens 1:34:52 - LMT 1895 Sep 14 1:34:52 - AMT 1916 Jul 28 0:01 # Athens MT 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1941 Apr 30 1:00 Greece CE%sT 1944 Apr 4 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1981 2:00 EU EE%sT I'm not sure where the problem lies? Maybe Geosetter can not handle the # out lines within the rules. Regards, Luke

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tzcode2009b.tar.gz and tzdata2009b.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 9, 2009

Feb. 9, 2009

The files... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2009b.tar.gz ...and... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009b.tar.gz ...are now available; these reflect the changes circulated last week on the time zone mailing list. --ado

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Coordinates format
by Jonas Melian Feb. 4, 2009

Feb. 4, 2009

Hi, I've seen that is used the format "+-DDMM+-DDDMM" or "+-DDMMSS+-DDDMMSS" to represent latitude and longitude according to ISO-6709 [1] standard. 1) But, the standard is used whith decimals: ±DDMM.MMM ±DDDMM.MMM (degrees and minutes) ±DDMMSS.SS ±DDDMMSS.SS (degrees, minutes and seconds) 2) Could your database to use one only way to represent the format? Or degrees and minutes; or degrees, minutes and seconds. So, the coordinates could be stored as float in the data bases, since that we know its total length. Greetings! [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_6709

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