December 2019 - tz - lists.iana.org

Re: [tz] Anticipated strategy for handling US state DST rule changes
by Paul Eggert Dec. 12, 2019

Dec. 12, 2019

On 12/12/19 7:39 AM, David Braverman wrote: > Can we use America/New_York_State/Buffalo, for example? That would work, yes. But let's hope Buffalo stays aligned.

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EU and Brexit Time Borders
by Brian Inglis Dec. 12, 2019

Dec. 12, 2019

EU member states get to decide whether to stay on summer or standard time: https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/meps-vote-to-end-daylight-saving… What will Ireland do, and will Ulster follow Irish or UK time? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-irish-border-time-clo… Will UK follow, staying on GMT or BST, or keep switching? https://www.rospa.com/media/documents/road-safety/consultation-responses/di… "Under the new legislation, governments opting to make summer-time permanent would adjust their clocks for the last time on the last Sunday in March 2021. For those choosing permanent standard time, known as permanent winter-time, the final clock change would be on the last Sunday of October 2021." -- Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada This email may be disturbing to some readers as it contains too much technical detail. Reader discretion is advised.

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Anticipated strategy for handling US state DST rule changes
by Marc Sackeli Dec. 12, 2019

Dec. 12, 2019

I apologize if this is a repeat question, but this question pertains specifically to how the tz database might change if individual US states start adhering to their own DST rules. There has been a wave of legislation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_the_United_States#201…> coming from individual states trying to shift towards a year-round DST model. While several states have successfully passed this legislation, their ability to shift is reliant on federal approval. Arizona has been able to drum to their own beat on DST, and I don't think it's far fetched to think other states might be allowed to do so in the future as well. If this is a potential outcome, is there an idea of how the tz database would adapt to this change? My guess is that new entries would be created to allow us to delineate between these states. We are currently covered if California decides to change thanks to America/Los_Angeles, but what if Oregon or Tennessee decides they want to change? Does this mean America/Portland and America/Nashville would be created? Or perhaps America/Oregon and America/Tennessee? Any thoughts would be appreciated. -Marc

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Iceland may move from +00 to -01
by Paul Eggert Dec. 11, 2019

Dec. 11, 2019

Since 1968 Reykjavík has been about 1.5 hours ahead of mean solar time. The government of Iceland recently asked people which of three things they wanted to do about this, and the survey results were: 4% - educational campaign to encourage people to go to bed earlier 37% - leave the clocks alone 56% - change from +00 to -01 The prime minister's office is drafting a bill to implement the majority opinion: this would undo the 1968 change from -01/+00 (with DST) to permanent +00, and would revert to permanent -01, which was observed 1908-1916 and 1922-1938. Although I've seen many proposals from around the world to change the clocks, this bill seems to have a real chance of passing so I thought I'd give the list a heads-up. My source: Fontaine A. Most Icelanders support changing Iceland’s time zone. Reykjavík Grapevine. 2019-12-11. https://grapevine.is/news/2019/12/11/most-icelanders-support-changing-icela…

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incorrect timezone info from tar files
by Benjamin Weiser Dec. 8, 2019

Dec. 8, 2019

Hello, I'd like to report your downloads for the following Time Zones from this URL on your site are out of date: https://www.iana.org/time-zones For instance Europe/Istanbul moved to UTC 3 permanently in September of 2016 and no longer follow DST. I will place the correct times first, and then the incorrect IANA times second. Highlighted in orange have the incorrect time zone information (0 means there is no DST, 1 means they follow DST) TimeZone UTC Offset ObservesDST IANA_UTC_offset: IANA_ObservesDST: America/Campo_Grande -4 0 -4 1 America/Sao_Paulo -3 0 -3 1 America/St_Johns -3.5 1 -3 1 Asia/Sakhalin 11 0 10 0 Australia/Adelaide 9.5 1 9 1 Australia/Darwin 9.5 0 9 0 Australia/Lord_Howe 10.5 1 10 1 Europe/Istanbul 3 0 2 1 Indian/Cocos 6.5 0 6 0 Pacific/Chatham 12.75 1 12 1 Thanks.

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by LISA - Unit Converter Dec. 7, 2019

Dec. 7, 2019

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Howard Hinnant's Time Zone Database Parser
by Scott Nelson Dec. 4, 2019

Dec. 4, 2019

I didn’t see a mention of Howard Hinnant’s Time Zone Database Parser (https://howardhinnant.github.io/date/tz.html) did I miss it or is it something worthwhile to add to your list on tz-link.html? -- Scott

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Re: [tz] Unnecessary time zones in Ukraine territory
by Mikhail Gribanov Dec. 4, 2019

Dec. 4, 2019

Ping. Please fix the time zones of Ukraine. Or at least reply me. пт, 27 сент. 2019 г. в 20:21, Mikhail Gribanov <mikhail.gribanov(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi. Many Linux distributions use time zones from tz database. But I > noticed that in Ukraine there are two unnecessary time zones. This is > noticeable in the Linux distributions installers when choosing a time > zone. There is only one time zone in Ukraine: > https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Час_в_Україні (Europe/Kiev in tz > database) > > Unnecessary time zones: > Europe/Uzhgorod > Europe/Zaporozhye > > Can you explain why they were added? I did not find any evidence of > the existence of events "Ruthenia used CET 1990/1991" (comment in tz > database). > And if it really existed is it possible to somehow mark them as > inactive time zones? Because many programs (for example, Linux > distribution installers, which I mentioned above) offer to select them > as active, which is incorrect.

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Help on Updating Java Time ZOne
by Santos, Cosme Dec. 3, 2019

Dec. 3, 2019

Hi, I am from brazil and I am trying to fix na issue with java, We used the command Execute C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.8.0_161\bin>java -jar tzupdater.jar -v -f -l file:c:\temp\tzdata2019c-rearguard.tar.gz (via cmd) And restarted all the Java application, however, some parts of the application are with the correct time, others are not. I have found this link and I am trying to get a fix for this, but I'd like to as for ehlp. What is tzcode and tzdb, should I update them to? Also, the Brazil Timezone change, 2019 we won't have it, so a friend sent me the tzdata2019c-rearguard.tar.gz (is this a good file?) [cid:image001.png@01D5A608.A1816A60] Best Regards, Cosme Santos Services & Support Analyst | South America E-Mail: c.santos(a)asctechnologies.com<mailto:c.santos@asctechnologies.com> I Phone: +55 11 4040-4500 | + 55 11 9 8555-0408 [cid:image002.jpg@01D0FABE.B417E720] ASC WFO Solutions do Brasil Ltda. I Av. Brig. Faria Lima, 1912 - 11° Andar - Cj 11 G I 01451-907 - São Paulo I http://www.asctechnologies.com.br<http://www.asctechnologies.com.br/> Privacy and legal statements can be found at http://asctechnologies.com/english/asc_impressum.html Please follow us on [Emailsignatur_FB]<https://www.facebook.com/ASC.cloud> [Emailsignatur_TW] <https://twitter.com/ASCTechnologies> [Emailsignatur_XG] <https://www.xing.com/company/asctechnologiesag> [Emailsignatur_LIn] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/465821> All statutory information can be found at http://www.asc.de/english/asc_impressum.html

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USG_COMPAT and POSIX and XOPEN macros
by Andras Farkas Dec. 3, 2019

Dec. 3, 2019

I've noticed that USG_COMPAT shouldn't be replaced by XOPEN macros since it's clear USG_COMPAT is meant to be something users of tzcode can toggle. However, if someone has an application where they set _XOPEN_SOURCE to 700 or another value, I wonder if there should be something equivalent to the following in private.h #ifndef USG_COMPAT # ifndef _XOPEN_VERSION # define USG_COMPAT 0 # else # define USG_COMPAT 1 # endif #endif But using _XOPEN_SOURCE instead. (while also retaining the block of code using _XOPEN_VERSION too. I think in cases where both macros are involved, priority should be given to _XOPEN_SOURCE since it's explicitly what an application programmer has asked for) Right now, the code only reads _XOPEN_VERSION (from the OS) but not _XOPEN_SOURCE (from the application) This possibly could also apply to how only _POSIX_VERSION is currently used, but not _POSIX_C_SOURCE (nor the obsolete _POSIX_SOURCE, but that's been superseded for a long time now) This topic originates in this thread: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2019-November/028596.html http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/tz/2019-November/thread.html

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