February 2001 - tz - lists.iana.org

FW: etcetera patch
by Olson, Arthur David (NCI) Feb. 9, 2001

Feb. 9, 2001

Semen A. Ustimenko is not on the time zone mailing list; direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Semen A. Ustimenko [mailto:semenu@online.sinor.ru] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 3:30 PM To: tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov Subject: etcetera patch Hi! I've discovered that definition for GMT+N anf GMT-N are just wrong. I.e. setting zone to GMT+6 you really get -6 hours offset from GMT. And this is quite correct as is defined in etcetera file! So, suppose follwoing patch worth commiting. Index: src/share/zoneinfo/etcetera =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/home/ncvs/src/share/zoneinfo/etcetera,v retrieving revision 1.1.2.4 diff -c -r1.1.2.4 etcetera *** src/share/zoneinfo/etcetera 1999/01/21 21:35:07 1.1.2.4 --- src/share/zoneinfo/etcetera 2000/12/04 15:14:56 *************** *** 37,65 **** # zic -l GMT-12 # so we moved the names into the Etc subdirectory. ! Zone Etc/GMT-14 14 - GMT-14 # 14 hours ahead of GMT ! Zone Etc/GMT-13 13 - GMT-13 ! Zone Etc/GMT-12 12 - GMT-12 ! Zone Etc/GMT-11 11 - GMT-11 ! Zone Etc/GMT-10 10 - GMT-10 ! Zone Etc/GMT-9 9 - GMT-9 ! Zone Etc/GMT-8 8 - GMT-8 ! Zone Etc/GMT-7 7 - GMT-7 ! Zone Etc/GMT-6 6 - GMT-6 ! Zone Etc/GMT-5 5 - GMT-5 ! Zone Etc/GMT-4 4 - GMT-4 ! Zone Etc/GMT-3 3 - GMT-3 ! Zone Etc/GMT-2 2 - GMT-2 ! Zone Etc/GMT-1 1 - GMT-1 ! Zone Etc/GMT+1 -1 - GMT+1 ! Zone Etc/GMT+2 -2 - GMT+2 ! Zone Etc/GMT+3 -3 - GMT+3 ! Zone Etc/GMT+4 -4 - GMT+4 ! Zone Etc/GMT+5 -5 - GMT+5 ! Zone Etc/GMT+6 -6 - GMT+6 ! Zone Etc/GMT+7 -7 - GMT+7 ! Zone Etc/GMT+8 -8 - GMT+8 ! Zone Etc/GMT+9 -9 - GMT+9 ! Zone Etc/GMT+10 -10 - GMT+10 ! Zone Etc/GMT+11 -11 - GMT+11 ! Zone Etc/GMT+12 -12 - GMT+12 --- 37,65 ---- # zic -l GMT-12 # so we moved the names into the Etc subdirectory. ! Zone Etc/GMT-14 -14 - GMT-14 # 14 hours ahead of GMT ! Zone Etc/GMT-13 -13 - GMT-13 ! Zone Etc/GMT-12 -12 - GMT-12 ! Zone Etc/GMT-11 -11 - GMT-11 ! Zone Etc/GMT-10 -10 - GMT-10 ! Zone Etc/GMT-9 -9 - GMT-9 ! Zone Etc/GMT-8 -8 - GMT-8 ! Zone Etc/GMT-7 -7 - GMT-7 ! Zone Etc/GMT-6 -6 - GMT-6 ! Zone Etc/GMT-5 -5 - GMT-5 ! Zone Etc/GMT-4 -4 - GMT-4 ! Zone Etc/GMT-3 -3 - GMT-3 ! Zone Etc/GMT-2 -2 - GMT-2 ! Zone Etc/GMT-1 -1 - GMT-1 ! Zone Etc/GMT+1 1 - GMT+1 ! Zone Etc/GMT+2 2 - GMT+2 ! Zone Etc/GMT+3 3 - GMT+3 ! Zone Etc/GMT+4 4 - GMT+4 ! Zone Etc/GMT+5 5 - GMT+5 ! Zone Etc/GMT+6 6 - GMT+6 ! Zone Etc/GMT+7 7 - GMT+7 ! Zone Etc/GMT+8 8 - GMT+8 ! Zone Etc/GMT+9 9 - GMT+9 ! Zone Etc/GMT+10 10 - GMT+10 ! Zone Etc/GMT+11 11 - GMT+11 ! Zone Etc/GMT+12 12 - GMT+12

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Microsoft Timezone User Interface
by Srinivas Nagaraj Feb. 9, 2001

Feb. 9, 2001

Hello, I am relatively new to this discussion, and I am interested to know your thoughts on the following. The Microsoft Windows Time Zone User Interface allows you to use (with a check box) daylight savings in all time zones where applicable. I was wondering as to why they made that a user modifiable option? They could for example have had two Eastern Standard Time (EST) pulled down options, one using daylight savings, and the other not using daylight savings (for same parts of Indiana). Is it for flexibility? or .....? Thank you. Srini

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RE: ZoneInfo.java
by Srinivas Nagaraj Feb. 9, 2001

Feb. 9, 2001

Hello, Never mind my previous email. I found the link on the TimeZone and Daylight Saving Time Data page just below the ZoneInfo.java link. Thank you. Srini -----Original Message----- From: Srinivas Nagaraj [mailto:srinivas@broadsoft.com] Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:43 PM To: Time Zone Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: ZoneInfo.java Hello, The ZoneInfo.java (time zone file reader written in Java) imports the package lava.clib.Stdio. Where can I find this package? Thank you. Srini

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RE: Microsoft Timezone User Interface
by Jesper Nørgaard Feb. 9, 2001

Feb. 9, 2001

I can imagine two reasons why it is sensible to make it optional whether Windows should roll your clock forth and back at the moment when daylight saving starts and stops. First of all some "mission-critical" operations like laboratories will sometimes want to handle the update of when daylight saving starts and stops by a central server of all of the other computers, so that the change is made in a company-wide fashion. Secondly you might prefer to do the change manually in a stand-alone PC if you know that the scheduled start and stop is no longer correct. An added benefit is that you don't have to invent a non-daylight saving zone for each GMT offset, just so that in case a country decides to drop daylight saving will not mean that you can't select that same time zone with fixed time (e.g. withou daylight saving). Why on earth Microsoft didn't deliver the program Time Zone Editor which allows you to actually set forth or back the scheduled daylight saving for each time zone and add new time zones to your hearts content, is really beyond me. That program should have been shipped together with Windows 95 from day 1, and supported with upgrades for all subsequent flavors of Windows. Instead it was shuffled into this and that utility package that nobody knew about, and was given no support except for one brave moment when Microsoft delivered lip service (and a Knowledge base article) to a specific change in australian time zones. You can download tzedit.exe from my web page (the Time Zone Editor) for Windows 95, which apparently work equally well for Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows NT and all versions in between (although I will not swear to it). Use http://timezone50.homepage.com/tzedit.zip and ask to save the file to disk. It also contains a *.REG file with a handful of time zones representing most distinct time zones of the tz database, although it is not completely up to date. By double-clicking on the *.REG file all the time zones are entered into the registry. Then you can select the appropriate one from the Control Panel. Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Welen Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Programador/Analista CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT Int. c/o Jesper Nørgaard Km. 45, Carretera México-Veracruz El Batán Texcoco, Edo. de México CP 56130 MEXICO Tel.: +52 (5) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (5) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 CIMMYT home page: http://cimmyt.cgiar.org Check out my free program World Time Explorer: http://timezone50.homepage.com ---------- From: Srinivas Nagaraj[SMTP:srinivas@broadsoft.com] Reply To: srinivas(a)broadsoft.com Sent: Jueves 8 de Febrero de 2001 9:11 To: Time Zone Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: Microsoft Timezone User Interface <<File: ATT00000.htm>> Hello, I am relatively new to this discussion, and I am interested to know your thoughts on the following. The Microsoft Windows Time Zone User Interface allows you to use (with a check box) daylight savings in all time zones where applicable. I was wondering as to why they made that a user modifiable option? They could for example have had two Eastern Standard Time (EST) pulled down options, one using daylight savings, and the other not using daylight savings (for same parts of Indiana). Is it for flexibility? or .....? Thank you. Srini

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ZoneInfo.java
by Srinivas Nagaraj Feb. 8, 2001

Feb. 8, 2001

Hello, The ZoneInfo.java (time zone file reader written in Java) imports the package lava.clib.Stdio. Where can I find this package? Thank you. Srini

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IERS Message No. 3
by central_bureau＠iers.org Feb. 7, 2001

Feb. 7, 2001

*************************************************************************** IERS Message No. 3 February 7, 2001 *************************************************************************** From: Jim Ray (USNO 202-762-1444) <jimr(a)maia.usno.navy.mil> Subject: [BULL-A] corrupt finals files Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 14:00:33 EST We have just learned that the long-term EOP series maintained here for the IERS Rapid Service/Prediction Center have been corrupted. These series are a byproduct of the IERS Bulletin A process but the Bulletins themselves are not affected. The affected files are: ftp://maia.usno.navy.mil/ser7/finals.all (data since 19 May 1976) ftp://maia.usno.navy.mil/ser7/finals.data (data since 01 Jan 1992) The period in these files that was affected was between MJDs 50000 and 51600 (10 Oct 1995 to 26 Feb 2000) and the corrupt files were available to the public since early November 2000. The problem files were replaced at 18:25 UTC today. If you are a user of either of these files, particularly for the period between 1995 and 2000, please retrieve an updated version. I apologize for any inconvenience that may have been caused. Sincerely yours, Jim Ray ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IERS Bulletin A Web site http://maia.usno.navy.mil/ ***************************************************************************

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daylight saving time in the rubble of Grozny
by Paul Eggert Feb. 7, 2001

Feb. 7, 2001

John Daniszewski's story "Scavengers in the Rubble" in today's Los Angeles Times reports the following about Grozny, the capital of Chechnya: There is no electricity, running water or garbage collection. Other commonplaces of modern life, such as telephones, anesthetics and television, are almost nonexistent. News--often false--is spread by word of mouth. A rumor that it was time to move the clocks back put this whole city out of sync with the rest of Russia for two weeks--even soldiers stationed here began enforcing curfew at the wrong time. See: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/updates2/lat_grozny010207.htm Warning: Daniszewski's story is strong stuff. The quote above is one of the rare cheerful moments in it. The 100,000 citizens of Grozny have a terrible existence. I could not finish his story with dry eyes.

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DST rule in California
by Jesper Nørgaard Feb. 4, 2001

Feb. 4, 2001

The official statute about time zone handling in Mexico has been issued, either yesterday or the day before, February 1. The links I have found is Newspaper Reforma: http://www.reforma.com/negocios_y_dinero/articulo/068587/ Portal Terra: http://www.terra.com.mx/noticias/nota/20010201/114738.htm Official statute published by the Energy Department: http://www.conae.gob.mx/ahorro/decretohorver2001.html#decre The only difference of what I have sent to the mailing list previously is that surprisingly Baja California (North) state is not following the new schedule, but instead follows normal Pacific Time as for instance the California state in USA. This means that it starts DST First Sunday in April 2001 at 2:00 and ends DST Last Sunday in October 2001, while most of the other locations in Mexico (with exception of the state of Sonora) starts DST First Sunday in May at 2:00 and end DST Last Sunday in September at 2:00. Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Welen Email: jnorgard(a)Prodigy.Net.mx Programador/Analista CIMMYT - Centro Internacional de Mejoramiento de Maíz y Trigo Dirección: CIMMYT Int. c/o Jesper Nørgaard Km. 45, Carretera México-Veracruz El Batán Texcoco, Edo. de México CP 56130 MEXICO Tel.: +52 (5) 58-04-20-04 ext. 1374 Fax: +52 (5) 58-04-75-58 Tel. Casa: 53-10-05-95 ó 53-10-97-78 CIMMYT home page: http://cimmyt.cgiar.org Check out my free program World Time Explorer: http://timezone50.homepage.com

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IERS Message No. 2
by central_bureau＠iers.org Feb. 1, 2001

Feb. 1, 2001

*************************************************************************** IERS Message No. 2 February 1, 2001 *************************************************************************** Dear colleagues The Web sites for the IERS EOP and ICRS Product Centers can now be reached at the following addresses: http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc for the EOP Product Center http://hpiers.obspm.fr/icrs-pc for the ICRS Product Center Kind regards, Daniel Gambis ***************************************************************************

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Time zones in the Global Gazetteer
by alan＠allm-geodata.com Feb. 1, 2001

Feb. 1, 2001

members of this list may be interested in the following extract from a recent newsletter that I sent out: <snip> TIME ZONES I have now included canonical time zone names in the Global Gazetteer. The canonical name (e.g. America/New_York) is then the key to time zone offset from GMT, and also the daylight saving time rules (date and time on and off), using the tztab format. There are still some gaps, most notably where the rule for assigning the name cuts across established administrative boundaries and also where I do not yet know the province and/or lower administrative areas within which the place falls. I am currently carrying out research to resolve these problems, but about 90% of records (including 'trains and boats and planes') now have canonical names assigned. Changes to zones and DST are regularly monitored and the records updated. There is a short paper on the web site that explains this in a bit more detail, describes all the various fields that are available, and explains the tztab format for DST rules. Other formats can be output if required. <end snip> I am not attempting to hold the wealth of historical data that the tz database holds. I am only interested in the current and future situation. There are two major problems that I am tackling: 1. the rather generic descriptions that are sometimes used in the tz data and trying to match these to my hierarchy of country/province/lower level admin area/town. For example 'far western Texas' or 'eastern Lugansk'. I am trying to clarify these where possible and will report back, if I find any useful information. 2. Completing the data that is in the Global Gazetteer, so that I can use the tz rules. This especially applies to countries such as Indonesia where many places do not yet have province name assigned, or in trying to find out which settlements fall within the county of Yancowinna in Australia Best wishes Alan Pritchard The GLOBAL GAZETTEER: the world on file http://www.allm-geodata.com Tel: +44 (0) 1202 417 477

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