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Russian zone names in use in .ru
by Chris Carrier Oct. 3, 1996

Oct. 3, 1996

(Andrey A. Chernov) >INTERNET:ache@nagual.ru wrote: >Russian time zones never abbreviated in civil live, so don't >even try to search for them. >MSK/MSD abbreviation was born in computers world initially. I would be interested to know, what labels are used in Russia for its time zones? I know Moscow+0 is Moscow time, but what is the name in common use for Moscow+1, Moscow+2, all the way up to Moscow+10. Thank you. >I don't understand why you insist on some meaning of timezone >abbreviation, lets look at them as at abstract ascii labels. >Most of timezone abbreviations already are cryptic enough >for unexperienced user. Only one requirement will be needed: >ascii label must be unique. If timezone abbreviation comes >to you from native background, please don't change it. I completely agree.

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Re: Russia autumn 1996 DST patch
by Michael H. Auria Oct. 2, 1996

Oct. 2, 1996

These messages (your entire thread) are being routed to sco.com. Would you please contact you email administrator (postmaster) to resolve this ... mha(a)sco.com > From netadm Wed Oct 2 13:31:08 1996 > Message-Id: <199610022006.PAA18054(a)ector.cs.purdue.edu> > Cc: =?KOI8-R?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA_=FE=C5=D2=CE=CF=D7?= (Andrey A.\ > Chernov) <ache(a)nagual.ru> > To: tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov > Subject: Re: Russia autumn 1996 DST patch > In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 02 Oct 1996 14:23:10 +0400." > <199610021023.OAA00834(a)nagual.ru> > Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 15:06:06 -0500 > From: "Markus G. Kuhn" <kuhn(a)cs.purdue.edu> > In message <199610021023.OAA00834(a)nagual.ru>, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: > > Why you not try to change GMT to something else? > > Assume that this idea becomes reality and you understand my > > complaints. MSK/MSD sounds here like GMT for you. > Actually, I *do* suggest to change all occurances of the string GMT in > tzdata to UTC, the correct modern term. Reasonable exceptions are > only comment text references to historic time zones before 1972 (when > UTC replaced GMT as the reference time and GMT was redefined and > replaced by the term UT1) and where the term GMT is necessary for > backwards compatibility. > UTC is the official term even in the U.S. now (according to USNO folks > since 1986). If you listen with your shortwave radio to WWV (2.5, 5, > 10, or 15 MHz), the U.S. NIST time announcement broadcast says: "At > the tone ... twenty-three hours ... fifty-nine minutes ... coordinated > universal time ... beep". > Markus > -- > Markus G. Kuhn, Computer Science grad student, Purdue > University, Indiana, USA -- email: kuhn(a)cs.purdue.edu ================================================================================ Michael H. Auria mha(a)sco.com Santa Cruz Operation Information Services Communications Group Account/Alias/Remote Access Administrator Smith & Wesson: the original point & click interface ... (408) 429-4501

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Europe/Norway (Europe/Oslo?)
by Tore Andre Klock Sept. 29, 1996

Sept. 29, 1996

[From the timedata file 'Europe'] # Plus, from 1 Jan 95: Austria, Finland, Sweden. (Norway negotiated terms for # entry but in a referendum on 28 Nov 94 the people voted No by 52.2% to 47.8% # on a turnout of 88.6%. This was almost the same result as Norway's previous # referendum in 1972, they are the only country to have said No twice. # Referendums in the other three countries voted Yes.) Very well, but.. Norway also uses the new European (EU) standard from _1996_. (The effects are pretty evident this morning, when all computers say "WINTER" and everybody else cling to their sunbath-lotion and scream "SUMMER"! This can be an interesting month.) Political statement/Historical Note: We voted "NO", but that was merely a matter of disposing ourselves of our right to vote. We still follow most of their rules. (Go figure) Hope you can include the correct data in the next version. Tore Andre Klock <tkl(a)www.moredata.no> PS: I got the file from a mirror, so it could be outdated. My apologies if so is the case.

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tzcode and autoconf ?
by phdemuyt＠ulb.ac.be Sept. 25, 1996

Sept. 25, 1996

I have just downloaded tzcode96l.tar.gz, and tried to compile it on sysv68 R3V7.1 (Motorola MVME167 board with 68040 processor), and it failed with the following : cc -DTZDIR=\"/usr/local/etc/zoneinfo\" -c zic.c **Error: ./private.h: 72: Can't find include file stdlib.h **Error: zic.c: 9: Can't find include file locale.h *** Error code 1 Stop. I can solve that myself, but, looking in the sources, I have seen many autoconf-like HAVE_<something> symbols. I like the ability provided by autoconf to automatically deduce system characteristics, and to compile in a separate directory. Is there an autoconf'ed version of tzcode somewhere ? On a related point : the copyright for this code is public-domain. Would it not be better protected by the GPL ? Regards Philippe De Muyter

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Re: how to install new tz data on BSD/OS ?
by Gildas Perrot Sept. 20, 1996

Sept. 20, 1996

Hi, BSD/OS 2.1 uses the new zoneinfo but not BSD/OS 1.1. I have one last BSD/OS 1.1 system and I have problems to change its zoneinfo. I got the sources of code and data of tz in ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/. 1) zic europe gives : "europe", line ...: input line of unknown type It seems that zic which comes with 1.1 is not compatible with new source format. 2) I got zoneinfo sources and I compiled zic with 'make zic'. First, I had to remove yearistype in zip entry in Makefile since yearistype.sh doesn't appear in sources. I got a new zip which could compile the tz data. I did "zip europe" and "zip -l Europe/Paris" but /etc/localtime stays the same. I copy Europe/Paris to /etc/localtime and this time, the perl script "http://wsspinfo.cern.ch/file/find_dst.pl" says : Today is Fri Sep 20 13:12:31 1996, DST is off The current value of TZ is <not set> No DST change in the next 20 weeks instead of : Today is Fri Sep 20 15:12:7 1996, DST is on The current value of TZ is <not set> The next DST change will be Sun Sep 29 2:59:59 1996 one second later it will be Sun Sep 29 2:0:0 1996 as before the installation of the new /etc/localtime. Any idea about the problem ? Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. -- Gildas PERROT, perrot(a)francenet.fr __o FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_ ---- (_)/ (_)

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how to install new tz data on BSD/OS ?
by Gildas Perrot Sept. 18, 1996

Sept. 18, 1996

Hi, I am using BSD/OS systems which use tz data as BSDI support seems to say. I would like to know how to install tz data to incorporate new european summertimes (I am in MET-1METDST) as HP said : All countries member of the European Community should implement the new summertime guidelines for 1996/1997. From now on in all these countries the switch from wintertime to summertime will be done on the same day (switching back also). The changes are : # Mitteleuropaeische Zeit, Mitteleuropaeische Sommerzeit MEZ-1MESZ 0 3 25-31 3 1983-2038 0 MESZ-2 0 2 24-30 9 1983-1995 0 MEZ-1 0 2 25-31 10 1996-2038 0 MEZ-1 # Middle European Time, Middle European Time Daylight Savings Time MET-1METDST 0 3 25-31 3 1983-2038 0 METDST-2 0 2 24-30 9 1983-1995 0 MET-1 0 2 25-31 10 1996-2038 0 MET-1 # Greenwich Mean Time, British Summer Time GMT0BST 0 3 25-31 3 1983-1984 0 BST-1 0 3 23-29 3 1985-1990 0 BST-1 0 3 25-31 3 1991-1995 0 BST-1 0 2 25-31 3 1996-2038 0 BST-1 0 1 25-31 10 1983-1985 0 GMT0 0 1 23-29 10 1986-1994 0 GMT0 0 1 18-24 10 1995 0 GMT0 0 1 25-31 10 1996-2038 0 GMT0 # Western European Time, Western European Time Daylight Savings Time WET0WETDST 0 3 25-31 3 1983-1984 0 WETDST-1 0 3 23-29 3 1985-1995 0 WETDST-1 0 2 25-31 3 1996-2038 0 WETDST-1 0 1 25-31 10 1983-1985 0 WET0 0 1 23-29 10 1986-1995 0 WET0 0 1 25-31 10 1996-2038 0 WET0 I found that on my systems, I have a crypted /etc/localtime and /usr/share/zoneinfo/ directory with subdir containing TZ info for towns in crypted text. Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. -- Gildas PERROT, perrot(a)francenet.fr __o FranceNet, 28 rue Desaix, 75015 Paris ---_ \<,_ ---- (_)/ (_)

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About timezone
by yangsf＠cntdns Sept. 14, 1996

Sept. 14, 1996

Hi, The Summer time of P.R.CHINA has been canceled. What shall I do to change my timezone information data on my computer.

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tzcode96l.tar.gz
by ado Sept. 8, 1996

Sept. 8, 1996

My apologies...tzcode96k.tar.gz was missing a couple of pieces. Now available is ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode96l.tar.gz --ado

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tzcode96k.tar.gz and tzdata96k.tar.gz
by ado Sept. 8, 1996

Sept. 8, 1996

The files ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode96k.tar.gz and ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata96k.tar.gz are now available. They incorporate the latest round of changes from Paul Eggert as well as the recent Year 200 material. --ado

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Re: Some thoughts ...
by Peter Ilieve Sept. 7, 1996

Sept. 7, 1996

On Sep 7, 4:31am, Chris Carrier wrote: > > What the EU might consider would be the adoption of something similar to the > Uniform Time Act in the United States; set the dates for summer time but allow > member states to opt out of the summer time provision if they so choose. But that would destroy the whole purpose of the Commission's work to synchronise the change dates, so as to keep a fixed, mostly zero, offset between the times in the member states. > Has anyone heard anything about the release date of the 8th Directive? Well, the official schedule is still to have a Directive agreed by the Council of Ministers by 1 Jan 97. I doubt that this will happen as all previous ones I know of have been late. I reported the Commissions proposals here in May. They were another 4 years of the current rules: year start end 1998 29 Mar 25 Oct 1999 28 Mar 31 Oct 2000 26 Mar 29 Oct 2001 25 Mar 28 Oct If the French are now going to take a few months or so to decide what they want it virtually guarantees that the 8th directive will be late. Peter Ilieve peter(a)aldie.co.uk

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