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Syria starts DST one week earlier
by Steffen Thorsen March 19, 2009

March 19, 2009

Syria will start DST on 2009-03-27 00:00 this year according to many sources, two examples: http://www.sana.sy/eng/21/2009/03/17/217563.htm (English, Syrian Arab News Agency) http://thawra.alwehda.gov.sy/_View_news2.asp?FileName=944592587200903180122… (Arabic, gov-site) We have not found any sources saying anything about when DST ends this year. Our summary http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/syria-dst-starts-march-27-2009.html Best regards, Steffen Thorsen / timeanddate.com

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proposed changes to "africa" for Morocco and Tunisia
by Arthur David Olson March 18, 2009

March 18, 2009

Here are proposed changes to the "africa" file in the time zone package; these reflect changes in Morocco and Tunisia. If no problems are found, expect these to show up in the ftp version on the 23rd. --ado ------- africa ------- *** /tmp/geta8634 Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009 --- /tmp/getb8634 Wed Mar 18 08:54:34 2009 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! # @(#)africa 8.17 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, --- 1,4 ---- ! # @(#)africa 8.18 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, *************** *** 564,569 **** --- 564,603 ---- # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html"> # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-ends-dst-early-2008.html # </a> + + # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-17): + # Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 according + # to many sources, such as + # <a href="http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html"> + # http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html + # </a> + # <a href="http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312"> + # http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 + # </a> + # (French) + # + # Our summary: + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html"> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html + # </a> + + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17): + # Here is a link to official document from Royaume du Maroc Premier Ministre, + # Ministere de la Modernisation des Secteurs Publics + # + # Under Article 1 of Royal Decree No. 455-67 of Act 23 safar 1387 (2 june 1967) + # concerning the amendment of the legal time, the Ministry of Modernization of + # Public Sectors announced that the official time in the Kingdom will be + # advanced 60 minutes from Sunday 31 May 2009 at midnight. + # + # <a href="http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR…"> + # http://www.mmsp.gov.ma/francais/Actualites_fr/PDF_Actualites_Fr/HeureEte_FR… + # </a> + # + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html"> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_morocco03.html + # </a> + # RULE NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Morocco 1939 only - Sep 12 0:00 1:00 S *************** *** 583,588 **** --- 617,624 ---- Rule Morocco 1978 only - Aug 4 0:00 0 - Rule Morocco 2008 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S Rule Morocco 2008 only - Sep 1 0:00 0 - + Rule Morocco 2009 only - Jun 1 0:00 1:00 S + Rule Morocco 2009 only - Aug 21 0:00 0 - # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone Africa/Casablanca -0:30:20 - LMT 1913 Oct 26 0:00 Morocco WE%sT 1984 Mar 16 *************** *** 787,792 **** --- 823,865 ---- # Ending : the last Sunday of October at 03:00 ... # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1188&It… + # From Steffen Thorsen (2009-03-16): + # According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year. + # (Arabic) + # <a href="http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546"> + # http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546 + # </a> + # <a href="http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp"> + # http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp + # </a> + # + # We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia. + # We have a wrap-up about this on the following page: + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html"> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html + # </a> + + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-17): + # Here is a link to Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency + # + # Standard time to be kept the whole year long (tap.info.tn): + # + # (in English) + # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&I…"> + # http://www.tap.info.tn/en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26813&I… + # </a> + # + # (in Arabic) + # <a href="http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&I…"> + # http://www.tap.info.tn/ar/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=61240&I… + # </a> + + # From Arthur David Olson (2009--3-18): + # The Tunis Afrique Presse News Agency notice contains this: "This measure is due to the fact + # that the fasting month of ramadan coincides with the period concerned by summer time. + # Therefore, the standard time will be kept unchanged the whole year long." + # So foregoing DST seems to be an exception (albeit one that may be repeated in the future). + # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Tunisia 1939 only - Apr 15 23:00s 1:00 S Rule Tunisia 1939 only - Nov 18 23:00s 0 - *************** *** 811,818 **** Rule Tunisia 1990 only - May 1 0:00s 1:00 S Rule Tunisia 2005 only - May 1 0:00s 1:00 S Rule Tunisia 2005 only - Sep 30 1:00s 0 - ! Rule Tunisia 2006 max - Mar lastSun 2:00s 1:00 S ! Rule Tunisia 2006 max - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0 - # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's # more precise 0:09:21. # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11. --- 884,893 ---- Rule Tunisia 1990 only - May 1 0:00s 1:00 S Rule Tunisia 2005 only - May 1 0:00s 1:00 S Rule Tunisia 2005 only - Sep 30 1:00s 0 - ! Rule Tunisia 2006 2008 - Mar lastSun 2:00s 1:00 S ! Rule Tunisia 2006 2008 - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0 - ! Rule Tunisia 2010 max - Mar lastSun 2:00s 1:00 S ! Rule Tunisia 2010 max - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0 - # Shanks & Pottenger give 0:09:20 for Paris Mean Time; go with Howse's # more precise 0:09:21. # Shanks & Pottenger say the 1911 switch was on Mar 9; go with Howse's Mar 11.

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Tunisia cancels DST
by Steffen Thorsen March 17, 2009

March 17, 2009

According to several news sources, Tunisia will not observe DST this year. (Arabic) http://www.elbashayer.com/?page=viewn&nid=42546 http://www.babnet.net/kiwidetail-15295.asp We have also confirmed this with the US embassy in Tunisia. We have a wrap-up about this on the following page: http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/tunisia-cancels-dst-2009.html Regards, Steffen Thorsen / timeanddate.com

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Morocco to observe DST in 2009
by Steffen Thorsen March 17, 2009

March 17, 2009

Morocco will observe DST from 2009-06-01 00:00 to 2009-08-21 00:00 according to many sources, such as http://news.marweb.com/morocco/entertainment/morocco-daylight-saving.html http://www.medi1sat.ma/fr/depeche.aspx?idp=2312 (French) Our summary: http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/morocco-starts-dst-2009.html Best regards, Steffen / timeanddate.com

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FW: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] March 16, 2009

March 16, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from NorbertoNazabal, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:19 To: Jesper Nørgaard Cc: TZ-list Subject: Re: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina Hi Jesper, Thanks for you answer, I want to let you know that currently we are using the GMT-4 time zone here at San Luis, since the last Sunday 15th at 00:00. I checked the Chile DST and I think we will use the same time zone, but I will try to contact to somebody in the goverment to confirm that information. Thanks for your notes about the consistency issues and I hope the new time zone for San Luis can be added to your database after the confirmation of which time zone we will use. Regards, Norberto Nazabal. 2009/3/16 Jesper Nørgaard <jnorgard(a)prodigy.net.mx> Norberto Nazabal wrote: >Basically the law says: >1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April. >2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October. I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented? The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00 hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th. of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday). So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from 2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ?? The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different, Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18 00:00:00. Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Welen No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 2009-03-15 14:07

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RE: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
by Jesper Nørgaard March 16, 2009

March 16, 2009

Norberto Nazabal wrote: >Basically the law says: >1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of April. >2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour of the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the second Saturday of October. I agree that this is an accurate translation of the document which was published already back in December 2008. However this definition contains serious problems of consistency. And not only that, if this was published so long back (2-3 months) why was it not followed in 2009, but rather following the Chile DST and Buenos Aires Argentinian DST instead with a frantic press conference the Thursday before the weekend when it was implemented? The problem of consistency is the perhaps not obvious fact that the Second Saturday of a month at 24:00 is *not* always the same time as the Second Sunday at 0:00 of a month. Thus the above definition is not always defining two contiguous periods (DST and non-DST) as one might think. I am sure this is an attempt to give an intuitive definition where one period goes to the 24:00 hours of one day, and is replaced with a new period starting at 0:00 hour the next day, but it fails. The first problem will occur in 2012 where the Second Saturday is 14.th. of April while the Second Sunday is the 8.th. of April (e.g. the problem occurs when the first in the month is a Sunday). So literally the definition will have it that GMT-3 will be followed from 2011-10-09 00:00:00 to 2012-04-14 24:00:00 and GMT-4 will be followed from 2012-04-08 00:00:00 : During a week we have both GMT-3 and GMT-4 ?? The most probable scenarios are that either San Luis redefines the decree in a consistent way, or that either Chile DST or Argentina DST is followed. The future will tell. Already in October 2009 the two latter are different, Chile starts DST 2009-10-11 00:00:00 and Buenos Aires starts DST 2009-10-18 00:00:00. Regards, Jesper Nørgaard Welen No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.557 / Virus Database: 270.11.15/2003 - Release Date: 2009-03-15 14:07

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FW: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] March 16, 2009

March 16, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Norberto Nazabal, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado From: Norberto Nazabal [mailto:nazabal@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:58 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina Hi all, First, let me thank to all of you for your excellent work maintaining the time zone database. I'm user of several programs using your database as source and I want to add a new time zone for San Luis, Argentina because currently we are using a different time zone that all the rest of the country. This is the link for the local law (spanish) that define the new time zone: http://ministerios.sanluis.gov.ar/res/media/pdf/18459.doc Basically the law says: 1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of April. 2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of October. I hope this can help you to include these changes in your database to be able to select the correct time zone for my State. Thanks, Norberto Nazabal

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Time Zone change for San Luis, Argentina
by Norberto Nazabal March 16, 2009

March 16, 2009

Hi all, First, let me thank to all of you for your excellent work maintaining the time zone database. I'm user of several programs using your database as source and I want to add a new time zone for San Luis, Argentina because currently we are using a different time zone that all the rest of the country. This is the link for the local law (spanish) that define the new time zone: http://ministerios.sanluis.gov.ar/res/media/pdf/18459.doc Basically the law says: 1) We will use the time zone GMT-3 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of October to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of April. 2) We will use the time zone GMT-4 from the 0 hour from the second Sunday of April to the 24 hours of the secong Saturday of October. I hope this can help you to include these changes in your database to be able to select the correct time zone for my State. Thanks, Norberto Nazabal

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proposed change for San Luis
by Arthur David Olson March 16, 2009

March 16, 2009

Below is a proposed change for San Luis, reflecting the claim that the province will be observing standard Argentine DST in the future. Barring negative comments, this change will appear in the ftp version in a week. --ado ------- southamerica ------- *** /tmp/geta878 Mon Mar 16 10:29:25 2009 --- /tmp/getb878 Mon Mar 16 10:29:25 2009 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! # @(#)southamerica 8.33 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, --- 1,4 ---- ! # @(#)southamerica 8.34 # <pre> # This data is by no means authoritative; if you think you know better, *************** *** 351,357 **** --- 351,401 ---- # keep America/Cordoba a single region rather than splitting it into the # other 5 subregions. + # From Mariano Absatz (2009-03-13): + # Yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis + # decided that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go + # to utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October... # + # The press release is at + # <a href="http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensa…"> + # http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensa… + # </a> + # (I couldn't find the decree, but + # <a href="http://www.sanluis.gov.ar"> + # www.sanluis.gov.ar + # <a/> + # is the official page for the Province Government). + # + # There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La Nación) at + # <a href="http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912"> + # http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912 + # </a> + # + # The press release says: + # (...) anunció que el próximo domingo a las 00:00 los puntanos deberán + # atrasar una hora sus relojes. + # + # A partir de entonces, San Luis establecerá el huso horario propio de + # la Provincia. De esta manera, durante el periodo del calendario anual + # 2009, el cambio horario quedará comprendido entre las 00:00 del tercer + # domingo de marzo y las 24:00 del segundo sábado de octubre. + # Quick&dirty translation + # (...) announced that next Sunday, at 00:00, Puntanos (the San Luis + # inhabitants) will have to turn back one hour their clocks + # + # Since then, San Luis will establish its own Province timezone. Thus, + # during 2009, this timezone change will run from 00:00 the third Sunday + # in March until 24:00 of the second Saturday in October. + + # From Arthur David Olson (2009-03-16): + # The unofficial claim at + # <a href="http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/san-luis-new-time-zone.html"> + # http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/san-luis-new-time-zone.html + # </a> + # is that "The province will most likely follow the next daylight saving schedule, + # which is planned for the second Sunday in October." + + # # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] # # Buenos Aires (BA), Capital Federal (CF), *************** *** 498,504 **** -3:00 - ART 2004 May 31 -4:00 - WART 2004 Jul 25 -3:00 Arg AR%sT 2008 Jan 21 ! -3:00 - ART # # Santa Cruz (SC) Zone America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos -4:36:52 - LMT 1894 Oct 31 --- 542,549 ---- -3:00 - ART 2004 May 31 -4:00 - WART 2004 Jul 25 -3:00 Arg AR%sT 2008 Jan 21 ! -3:00 - ART 2009 Mar 15 ! -4:00 Arg WAR%sT # # Santa Cruz (SC) Zone America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos -4:36:52 - LMT 1894 Oct 31

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tzdata2009c.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] March 16, 2009

March 16, 2009

The file... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009c.tar.gz ...is now available; this reflects the change to the start of Cuban DST circulated last week on the time zone mailing list. I'm holding off on a San Luis (Argentina) change pending investigation of whether they plan to switch clocks every year. --ado

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Last minute change for the Province of San Luis (Argentina)
by Mariano Absatz - El Baby March 13, 2009

March 13, 2009

Hi, yesterday (with our usual 2-day notice) the Province of San Luis decided that next Sunday instead of "staying" @utc-03:00 they will go to utc-04:00 until the second Saturday in October... The press release is at http://www.sanluis.gov.ar/SL/Paginas/NoticiaDetalle.asp?TemaId=1&InfoPrensa… (I couldn't find the decree, but www.sanluis.gov.ar is the official page for the Province Government). There's also a note in only one of the major national papers (La Nación) at http://www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1107912 I'll try to write a patch to southamerica and send it right away. -- Mariano Absatz - "El Baby" baby(a)baby.com.ar www.clueless.com.ar -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * TagZilla 0.066 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org

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proposed change to northamerica file in time zone package for Cuba
by Arthur David Olson March 9, 2009

March 9, 2009

Having checked this morning on Cuba having actually switched, here's a proposed change to the "northamerica" file. Assuming no problems are found, expect this version to hit the ftp site in a week. --ado ------- northamerica ------- *** /tmp/geta29524 Mon Mar 9 10:29:36 2009 --- /tmp/getb29524 Mon Mar 9 10:29:36 2009 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! # @(#)northamerica 8.26 # <pre> # also includes Central America and the Caribbean --- 1,4 ---- ! # @(#)northamerica 8.27 # <pre> # also includes Central America and the Caribbean *************** *** 2258,2263 **** --- 2258,2282 ---- # From Arthur David Olson (2008-03-12): # Assume Sun>=15 (third Sunday) going forward. + # From Alexander Krivenyshev (2009-03-04) + # According to the Radio Reloj - Cuba will start Daylight Saving Time on + # midnight between Saturday, March 07, 2009 and Sunday, March 08, 2009- + # not on midnight March 14 / March 15 as previously thought. + # + # <a href="http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html"> + # http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html + # (in Spanish) + # </a> + + # From Arthur David Olson (2009-03-09) + # I listened over the Internet to + # <a href="http://media.enet.cu/readioreloj"> + # http://media.enet.cu/readioreloj + # </a> + # this morning; when it was 10:05 a. m. here in Bethesda, Maryland the + # the time was announced as "diez cinco"--the same time as here, indicating + # that has indeed switched to DST. Assume second Sunday from 2009 forward. + # Rule NAME FROM TO TYPE IN ON AT SAVE LETTER/S Rule Cuba 1928 only - Jun 10 0:00 1:00 D Rule Cuba 1928 only - Oct 10 0:00 0 S *************** *** 2290,2296 **** Rule Cuba 2000 2004 - Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D Rule Cuba 2006 max - Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S Rule Cuba 2007 only - Mar Sun>=8 0:00s 1:00 D ! Rule Cuba 2008 max - Mar Sun>=15 0:00s 1:00 D # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone America/Havana -5:29:28 - LMT 1890 --- 2309,2316 ---- Rule Cuba 2000 2004 - Apr Sun>=1 0:00s 1:00 D Rule Cuba 2006 max - Oct lastSun 0:00s 0 S Rule Cuba 2007 only - Mar Sun>=8 0:00s 1:00 D ! Rule Cuba 2008 only - Mar Sun>=15 0:00s 1:00 D ! Rule Cuba 2009 max - Mar Sun>=8 0:00s 1:00 D # Zone NAME GMTOFF RULES FORMAT [UNTIL] Zone America/Havana -5:29:28 - LMT 1890

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Cuba will start DST on midnight between March 07, 2009 and March 08, 2009
by Alexander Krivenyshev March 4, 2009

March 4, 2009

According to the Radio Reloj - Cuba will start Daylight Saving Time on midnight between Saturday, March 07, 2009 and Sunday, March 08, 2009- not on midnight March 14 / March 15 as previously thought. http://www.worldtimezone.com/dst_news/dst_news_cuba05.html (in Spanish) Alexander Krivenyshev, http://www.worldtimezone.com

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ooppsss...
by Mirko Fluher March 3, 2009

March 3, 2009

sorry ... ignore my previous message .. the current tzdata file is ok for Australia/Victoria ! Cheers, -- http://pax.apana.org.au gpg key id: EACDC062 pgp.mit.edu Linux #19227 UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing clever things. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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tzdata2009b
by Mirko Fluher March 3, 2009

March 3, 2009

The file tzdata2009b.tar.gz needs to be updated to reflect the new daylight saving of Australia/Victoria ... now moving from March to the first Sunday in April see: http://www.vic.gov.au/news-detail/daylight-saving-has-changed.html Thank you! Cheers, -- http://pax.apana.org.au gpg key id: EACDC062 pgp.mit.edu Linux #19227 UNIX was not designed to stop its users from doing stupid things, as that would also stop them from doing clever things. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

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FW: Pacific-New
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 25, 2009

Feb. 25, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Bill Unruh, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Bill Unruh [mailto:unruh@physics.ubc.ca] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:35 To: Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Cc: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: RE: Pacific-New On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] wrote: > The "pacificnew" file includes information about legislation that was > introduced (but not passed) in the United States Congress; it serves to > explain why a "Pacific-New" time zone was created in the first place. > Note that the last line of the file is a "Link America/Los_Angeles > US/Pacific-New" line, meaning that using either name now has the same > effect. I guess I object strongly to including legislative proposals into the tzdata files. If we introduce a new file and a new timezone everytime some government official makes some silly comment about time, the whole edifice will collapse under the weight of that garbage. While the tzdata file is not an official publication it is regarded as pretty authoritiative by most people using computers in the world. It should therefore strive to be accurate and authoritative, and not get bogged down with irrelevancies, and political commentary or jokes (which is the only thing I can imagine that the Pacific-New timezone to be). > > As to jokes and idiocy: there used to be an obscure bit of word play in > an strftime.c comment; > it was eliminated in version 7.40.-) Never saw it. I am not above jokes and wordplay but not when it extends to introducing new time zones in at least semi-authoritative publications. Are we going to get an Okeefenokie time zone because someone likes Pogo-- or a US/BUSH timezone (constantly set to midnight) as political commentary on the last president? That an ill-considered proposal popped up in Congress 20 years ago but was never passed should not be memorialised by a new time zone in tzdata. My response was triggered when a Suse user said his distro assigned Pacific-New to him. Having never seen it before (Mandriva wisely does not have it), I looked at the tzdata file and found it. Please please remove it. > > --ado > -- William G. Unruh | Canadian Institute for| Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Physics&Astronomy | Advanced Research | Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC | Program in Cosmology | unruh(a)physics.ubc.ca Canada V6T 1Z1 | and Gravity | www.theory.physics.ubc.ca/

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FW: Pacific-New
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 22, 2009

Feb. 22, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Bill Unruh, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado -----Original Message----- From: Bill Unruh [mailto:unruh@physics.ubc.ca] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:18 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Pacific-New Why in the world do you have that joke of a file pacificnew included in the tzdata database? It is a completely stupid joke, or political protest against yet another idiotic bill passed by the House, but never made it anywhere near law. People are actually using Pacific-New as a time zone in various distributions of Linux. tzdata is supposed to be a somewhat authoritative site for time zone info, and not a place for sophmoric jokes or political protest. It makes one think that the rest of your database may be similarly infused with idiocy. Are we going to find new files with protests against Islamic law, or Communist propeganda infiltrating the database next? -- William G. Unruh Canadian Institute for Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Physics&Astronomy Advanced Research Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC Program in Cosmology unruh(a)physics.ubc.ca Canada V6T 1Z1 and Gravity http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ For step by step instructions about setting up ppp under Linux, see http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

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Pacific-New
by Bill Unruh Feb. 22, 2009

Feb. 22, 2009

Why in the world do you have that joke of a file pacificnew included in the tzdata database? It is a completely stupid joke, or political protest against yet another idiotic bill passed by the House, but never made it anywhere near law. People are actually using Pacific-New as a time zone in various distributions of Linux. tzdata is supposed to be a somewhat authoritative site for time zone info, and not a place for sophmoric jokes or political protest. It makes one think that the rest of your database may be similarly infused with idiocy. Are we going to find new files with protests against Islamic law, or Communist propeganda infiltrating the database next? -- William G. Unruh Canadian Institute for Tel: +1(604)822-3273 Physics&Astronomy Advanced Research Fax: +1(604)822-5324 UBC, Vancouver,BC Program in Cosmology unruh(a)physics.ubc.ca Canada V6T 1Z1 and Gravity http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ For step by step instructions about setting up ppp under Linux, see http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html

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Why is there not a Asia/Beijing timezone?
by Matthew Young Feb. 14, 2009

Feb. 14, 2009

The standard time in China is Beijing time. Why is there no Beijing timezone in your database? Microsoft Windows has a Beijing time zone.

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FW: Entry For Europe/Athens
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 13, 2009

Feb. 13, 2009

I'm forwarding this message from Luke, who is not on the time zone mailing list. Those of you who are on the list, please direct replies appropriately. --ado From: Luke [mailto:spizzer@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 3:10 To: tz(a)lecserver.nci.nih.gov Subject: Entry For Europe/Athens Hi, I've been working on a issue with Geosetter which uses your timeinfo database. Please see http://www.geosetter.de/mantis/view.php?id=572 for some more history. This is for Europe 8.20, but Geosetter ships with 8.12. >From this point on we are talking about 8.20 Lines 1212 to 1218 inclusive. FROM Zone Europe/Athens 1:34:52 - LMT 1895 Sep 14 1:34:52 - AMT 1916 Jul 28 0:01 # Athens MT 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1941 Apr 30 1:00 Greece CE%sT 1944 Apr 4 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1981 # Shanks & Pottenger say it switched to C-Eur in 1981; # go with EU instead, since Greece joined it on Jan 1. 2:00 EU EE%sT TO Zone Europe/Athens 1:34:52 - LMT 1895 Sep 14 1:34:52 - AMT 1916 Jul 28 0:01 # Athens MT 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1941 Apr 30 1:00 Greece CE%sT 1944 Apr 4 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1981 2:00 EU EE%sT I'm not sure where the problem lies? Maybe Geosetter can not handle the # out lines within the rules. Regards, Luke

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Entry For Europe/Athens
by Luke Feb. 13, 2009

Feb. 13, 2009

Hi, I've been working on a issue with Geosetter which uses your timeinfo database. Please see http://www.geosetter.de/mantis/view.php?id=572 for some more history. This is for Europe 8.20, but Geosetter ships with 8.12. >From this point on we are talking about 8.20 Lines 1212 to 1218 inclusive. *FROM* Zone Europe/Athens 1:34:52 - LMT 1895 Sep 14 1:34:52 - AMT 1916 Jul 28 0:01 # Athens MT 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1941 Apr 30 1:00 Greece CE%sT 1944 Apr 4 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1981 # Shanks & Pottenger say it switched to C-Eur in 1981; # go with EU instead, since Greece joined it on Jan 1. 2:00 EU EE%sT *TO* Zone Europe/Athens 1:34:52 - LMT 1895 Sep 14 1:34:52 - AMT 1916 Jul 28 0:01 # Athens MT 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1941 Apr 30 1:00 Greece CE%sT 1944 Apr 4 2:00 Greece EE%sT 1981 2:00 EU EE%sT I'm not sure where the problem lies? Maybe Geosetter can not handle the # out lines within the rules. Regards, Luke

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tzcode2009b.tar.gz and tzdata2009b.tar.gz
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 9, 2009

Feb. 9, 2009

The files... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzcode2009b.tar.gz ...and... ftp://elsie.nci.nih.gov/pub/tzdata2009b.tar.gz ...are now available; these reflect the changes circulated last week on the time zone mailing list. --ado

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Coordinates format
by Jonas Melian Feb. 4, 2009

Feb. 4, 2009

Hi, I've seen that is used the format "+-DDMM+-DDDMM" or "+-DDMMSS+-DDDMMSS" to represent latitude and longitude according to ISO-6709 [1] standard. 1) But, the standard is used whith decimals: ±DDMM.MMM ±DDDMM.MMM (degrees and minutes) ±DDMMSS.SS ±DDDMMSS.SS (degrees, minutes and seconds) 2) Could your database to use one only way to represent the format? Or degrees and minutes; or degrees, minutes and seconds. So, the coordinates could be stored as float in the data bases, since that we know its total length. Greetings! [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_6709

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"Extended" POSIX time zone string?
by Olson, Arthur David (NIH/NCI) [E] Feb. 3, 2009

Feb. 3, 2009

Future transitions in a zone such as America/Godthab can't be represented by a POSIX time zone string. Transitions could be represented by a string such as... WGT-3WGST,M3.5.0/1u,M10.5.0/1u ...where the "1u" is an indication that transitions occur at 1:00 a.m. Universal time. Is this format extension (or something better) worth suggestion to the POSIX powers? --ado

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Proposed time zone package changes
by Arthur David Olson Feb. 2, 2009

Feb. 2, 2009

Below find proposed relatively minor proposed changes to the time zone package: * leapseconds: updated to reflect no mid-2009 leap second * tz-art.htm: information on two CDs added * zic.c: fix fencepost error The change to zic.c will result in changed binary outputs in a handful of cases. If no one spots problems, these changes should appear at ftp://elsie on 2009-02-08. --ado diff -c -r old/leapseconds new/leapseconds *** old/leapseconds Wed Jan 14 17:35:16 2009 --- new/leapseconds Tue Jan 27 15:46:54 2009 *************** *** 1,4 **** ! # @(#)leapseconds 8.6 # Allowance for leapseconds added to each timezone file. --- 1,4 ---- ! # @(#)leapseconds 8.7 # Allowance for leapseconds added to each timezone file. *************** *** 53,92 **** # SERVICE DE LA ROTATION TERRESTRE # OBSERVATOIRE DE PARIS # 61, Av. de l'Observatoire 75014 PARIS (France) ! # Tel. : 33 (0) 1 40 51 22 26 # FAX : 33 (0) 1 40 51 22 91 ! # e-mail : services.iers(a)obspm.fr ! # http://hpiers.obspm.fr/eop-pc # ! # Paris, 4 July 2008 # ! # Bulletin C 36 # # To authorities responsible # for the measurement and # distribution of time # ! # UTC TIME STEP ! # on the 1st of January 2009 # ! # A positive leap second will be introduced at the end of December 2008. ! # The sequence of dates of the UTC second markers will be: # ! # 2008 December 31, 23h 59m 59s ! # 2008 December 31, 23h 59m 60s ! # 2009 January 1, 0h 0m 0s # - # The difference between UTC and the International Atomic Time TAI is: - # - # from 2006 January 1, 0h UTC, to 2009 January 1 0h UTC : UTC-TAI = - 33s - # from 2009 January 1, 0h UTC, until further notice : UTC-TAI = - 34s - # # Leap seconds can be introduced in UTC at the end of the months of December ! # or June, depending on the evolution of UT1-TAI. Bulletin C is mailed every ! # six months, either to announce a time step in UTC or to confirm that there # will be no time step at the next possible date. # # Daniel GAMBIS ! # Head ! # Earth Orientation Center of IERS # Observatoire de Paris, France --- 53,84 ---- # SERVICE DE LA ROTATION TERRESTRE # OBSERVATOIRE DE PARIS # 61, Av. de l'Observatoire 75014 PARIS (France) ! # Tel. : 33 (0) 1 40 51 22 29 # FAX : 33 (0) 1 40 51 22 91 ! # Internet : services.iers(a)obspm.fr # ! # Paris, 15 January 2009 # ! # Bulletin C 37 # # To authorities responsible # for the measurement and # distribution of time # ! # INFORMATION ON UTC - TAI # ! # NO positive leap second will be introduced at the end of June 2009. ! # The difference between Coordinated Universal Time UTC and the ! # International Atomic Time TAI is : # ! # from 2009 January 1, 0h UTC, until further notice : UTC-TAI = -34 s # # Leap seconds can be introduced in UTC at the end of the months of December ! # or June, depending on the evolution of UT1-TAI. Bulletin C is mailed every ! # six months, either to announce a time step in UTC, or to confirm that there # will be no time step at the next possible date. # # Daniel GAMBIS ! # Head ! # Earth Orientation Center of the IERS # Observatoire de Paris, France diff -c -r old/tz-art.htm new/tz-art.htm *** old/tz-art.htm Wed Jan 14 17:35:17 2009 --- new/tz-art.htm Sat Jan 31 11:54:12 2009 *************** *** 9,15 **** <body> <h1>Time and the Arts</h1> <address> ! @(#)tz-art.htm 8.10 </address> <p> Please send corrections to this web page to the --- 9,15 ---- <body> <h1>Time and the Arts</h1> <address> ! @(#)tz-art.htm 8.11 </address> <p> Please send corrections to this web page to the *************** *** 202,207 **** --- 202,231 ---- Supernaw.</td></tr> <tr><td> </td></tr> + <tr><td>Artist</td><td>The Microscopic Septet</td></tr> + <tr><td>CD</td><td>Lobster Leaps In</td></tr> + <tr><td>Copyright Date</td><td>2008</td></tr> + <tr><td>Label</td><td>Cuneiform</td></tr> + <tr><td>ID</td><td>272</td></tr> + <tr><td>Total Time</td><td>73:05</td></tr> + <tr><td>Notes</td><td>Includes the song "Twilight Time Zone."</td></tr> + <tr><td><a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:w9fpxzykldje">AMG Rating</a></td><td>3.5 stars</td></tr> + <tr><td>ADO Rating</td><td>2 stars</td></tr> + + <tr><td> </td></tr> + + <tr><td>Artist</td><td>Bob Dylan</td></tr> + <tr><td>CD</td><td>The Time They Are A-Changin'</td></tr> + <tr><td>Copyright Date</td><td>1964</td></tr> + <tr><td>Label</td><td>Columbia</td></tr> + <tr><td>ID</td><td>CK-8905</td></tr> + <tr><td>Total Time</td><td>45:36</td></tr> + <tr><td><a href="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:gifqxqt5ld0e">AMG Rating</a></td><td>4.5 stars</td></tr> + <tr><td>ADO Rating</td><td>1.5 stars</td></tr> + <tr><td>Notes<td>The title song is also available on "Bob Dylan's Greatest Hits" and "The Essential Bob Dylan."</td></tr> + + <tr><td> </td></tr> + <tr><td>TV episode title</td><td>The Lost Hour</td> <tr><td>TV series</td><td><em>Eerie, Indiana</em></td> <tr><td>TV episode number</td><td>10</td> diff -c -r old/zic.c new/zic.c *** old/zic.c Wed Jan 14 17:35:17 2009 --- new/zic.c Tue Jan 27 15:46:47 2009 *************** *** 3,9 **** ** 2006-07-17 by Arthur David Olson. */ ! static char elsieid[] = "@(#)zic.c 8.18"; #include "private.h" #include "locale.h" --- 3,9 ---- ** 2006-07-17 by Arthur David Olson. */ ! static char elsieid[] = "@(#)zic.c 8.19"; #include "private.h" #include "locale.h" *************** *** 1995,2001 **** min_year = max_year = EPOCH_YEAR; if (leapseen) { updateminmax(leapminyear); ! updateminmax(leapmaxyear); } for (i = 0; i < zonecount; ++i) { zp = &zpfirst[i]; --- 1995,2001 ---- min_year = max_year = EPOCH_YEAR; if (leapseen) { updateminmax(leapminyear); ! updateminmax(leapmaxyear + (leapmaxyear < INT_MAX)); } for (i = 0; i < zonecount; ++i) { zp = &zpfirst[i];

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