February 2017 - UA-discuss

Universal Acceptance LinkedIn Group
by Jean (Jovenet Consulting) March 2, 2017

March 2, 2017

Do you think it makes sense to create a LinkedIn group on Universal Acceptance? The idea is to "spread the message" without this group to be a poor copy-paste of what already is in this discussion list. It took me years to bring the new gTLD group to 2,500 members so this project makes sense if there is participation. Now: what is participation? Questions: 1. Does it make sense to create such group 2. What should the purpose of this group: 1. Post announcements of recent updates from https://uasg.tech/ ? 2. Post examples of use? 3. Which guidelines? (I'll make this simple) 4. Will you participate? Happy to receive feedback on this idea. -- *Jean Guillon* 8 Boulevard du Général De Gaulle 92120 Montrouge France *Phone:* +33.631109837 *Skype & Twitter:* jeanguillon *Web:* www.jovenet.consulting

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Re: [UA-discuss] [ajay.uasg@data.in] Re: [ajay.uasg@data.in] [UA-EAI] Revised UASG013 - Quick Guide to EAI
by ajay＠data.in Feb. 28, 2017

Feb. 28, 2017

Yes Dusan, you will need to own ASCII domain to full ascii Alias ID On 24-Feb-2017, 4:30:27 AM Dusan Stojicevic 'dusan(a)dukes.in.rs' wrote: Excuse me, I need some clearance on this. For example, I am owner of domain name стојичевић.срб, and nothing else. My primary would be душан(a)xn--b1afic0arh6b8j9a.xn--90a3ac (mailto:%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B0%D0%BD@%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%98%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%9B.%D1%81%D1%80%D0%B1), and my alias would be dusan(a)stojicevic.rs (mailto:dusan@stojicevic.rs) and it would be pointing to the same mailbox. Q1> Do I need to be owner of the ascii domain name stojicevic.rs, in order to get ascii alias? Q2> If not, how do I get alias, and what I can choose? Just user part? Thanks, Dusan From: ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 4:16 PM To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] [UA-EAI] Revised UASG013 - Quick Guide to EAI I have my DataMail account setup using the same method and it works well. So I have, 小山(a)xn--wny099c.xn--3ds443g (mailto:%E5%B0%8F%E5%B1%B1@%E7%94%B5%E9%82%AE.%E5%9C%A8%E7%BA%BF) as my primary and the ascii alias i18n(a)datamail.in (mailto:i18n@datamail.in) as my ascii secondary. Thus the aliasing is on the whole email address. I consider the local-part should have it's own aliasing. So, taking Ajay's email address, local-part aliasing would give अजय(a)xn--c2bd4bq1db8d.xn--h2brj9c (mailto:%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%AF@%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B2.%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%A4) ajay(a)xn--c2bd4bq1db8d.xn--h2brj9c (mailto:ajay@%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B2.%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%A4) and we retain the same domain name. Both whole email address aliasing and local-part aliasing could co-exist André Schappo > > > > On 23 Feb 2017, at 07:04, Ajay Data <ajay(a)data.in (mailto:ajay@data.in)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what we are doing as of now.. we are calling it Alias. > > > > One mail box: > > My unicode id is - अजय(a)xn--c2bd4bq1db8d.xn--h2brj9c (mailto:%E0%A4%85%E0%A4%9C%E0%A4%AF@%E0%A4%A1%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%AE%E0%A5%87%E0%A4%B2.%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%B0%E0%A4%A4) > > Alias - aj(a)datamail.in (mailto:aj@datamail.in) > > > > And it is working well. > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Ajay Data > > > > > > On February 23, 2017 11:30:02 AM GMT+05:30, Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss <ua-discuss(a)icann.org (mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Andre’s suggestion is a good one and we should probably add it to the “things to consider” portion of the document as an option for email service providers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regarding Joseph’s comments: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) I don’t actually recall when we made this suggestion. It will certain work and may improve compatibility with some systems. Perhaps we should make this a consideration rather than a best practice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) It’s true that use of IDNA will restrict the mailbox name strings available. I posit that the number of valid strings will still be huge and that the trade-off is acceptable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) If an ASCII mailbox alias is offered, then this suggestion is less interesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Move to the mail service provider section. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) I no longer remember why we suggested normalizing… sorry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org (mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org) [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo > > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 7:50 AM > > > > To: Joseph Yee <jyee(a)afilias.info (mailto:jyee@afilias.info)>; ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org (mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org)> > > > > Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-EAI] Revised UASG013 - Quick Guide to EAI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I read the Quick Guide to EAI a few days ago I was somewhat surprised to see punycode/A-Label used with respect to the local-part/mailbox name. Joseph's email has prompted me to respond. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There are many issues to having the local-part as punycode but in this email I will focus on a practical working practice that encompasses both the (huge) transition problem and the long term. I think a Best (Compromise) Practice could be:- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Registration of an internationalised email address would involve registration of both a primary unicode local-part and a secondary ASCII local-part. The ASCII local-part does not need to be a conversion from Unicode to ASCII. Choice of both the Unicode and the ASCII being the choice of the registrant. Both the Unicode and the ASCII would name the same mailbox

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UA Local Initiatives...
by Don Hollander Feb. 28, 2017

Feb. 28, 2017

The Help Wanted advertisement for funding to help local UA initiatives is now published at https://uasg.tech/help-wanted/ <https://uasg.tech/help-wanted/> There is no deadline - we will accept and review applications as they arrive. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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Program for ICANN58 Copenhagen
by Don Hollander Feb. 28, 2017

Feb. 28, 2017

Here’s the latest draft of the program for the Universal Acceptance related activities in Copenhagen... Subject to change, of course. But also open to suggestions. Don UASG @ ICANN58 – Copenhagen UASG Workshop Sunday, 12 March 2017 13:45 – 18:30 Hall B3 13:45 15 Welcome & Introduction Ram Mohan 14:00 10 UASG Update Don Hollander 14:10 20 Programming Language Reviews – Evaluation Criteria Sara Dickson 14:30 30 White Paper Draft Review Michael Kende 15:00 20 Break 15:20 40 Communications Lars Steffan & Andrew Robertson 16:00 15 Issues Logging Michaela Quinzy 16:15 30 UA & Phishing & Spam Lars Steffan & Peter Myer 16:45 15 ICANN IT Sigmund Fidyke 17:00 20 Updates from Communities Thailand Germany Argentina 17:20 40 EAI - Community Update - Quick Guide - Testing - April Meeting Mark Svancarek 18:00 30 General Discussion, Parking Lot - UA & Internet Industry Ram/Don UASG/GAC Sunday, 12 March 2017 18:30 – 19:00 Hall A2 Since its first presentation to the GAC in Dublin, the UASG has continued to deliver on its core mission of providing good content and raising awareness. Universal Acceptance is the idea that all domain names and email addresses work in all systems. With the introduction of IDNccTLDs in 2010 and the greater expansion in new gTLDs in 2013, many applications have not kept up to date and need updating. In this session, the UASG (Universal Acceptance Steering Group) will update the GAC with its activities and provide suggestions of how governments can engage their own departments as well as their local software community to make their system UA Ready. ccNSO Session (Support role) Wednesday, 15 March 2017 13:45 – 15:00 Hall C1.2 13:45 15:00 ccTLD News Session chair: Abdalla Omari (.ke) - The development of IDN .vn domain names: Phan Nguyen Ngoc Anh (.vn) - .africa delegation: Lucky Masilela (.za Central Registry) - Promotion Chinese E-mail Address Internationalisation: Ian Chiang (.tw) - Registries from south-eastern Europe: working together: Barbara Povše (.si) - The registry of the future: Cristian Hesselman (.nl) - Q&A and wrap-up by the session chair UASG Public Forum Wednesday, 15 March 2017 17:00 – 18:30 Hall B3 17:00 15 Introduction & Recent Update Ram 17:15 15 Issues Logging Update Seda & Koray 17:30 15 EAI Issues Mark 17:45 15 Comms Work Christian & Lars 18:00 10 UA @ ICANN IT Sigmund 18:10 20 Q&A and General Ram Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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Re: [UA-discuss] [ajay.uasg@data.in] Re: [ajay.uasg@data.in] [UA-EAI] Revised UASG013 - Quick Guide to EAI
by ajay＠data.in Feb. 28, 2017

Feb. 28, 2017

Hello Yao While you are correct about both MX pointing to same server in normal configuration however there may be many use cases when there are multiple load balancers and antispam in between, then MX pointing may not be at same server. Even there may be lots of email routing scenerio. In this scenario DNS will be of little use. Lets not forget there are two independent domains and will have their own issues in relation to reputation,blocking,spam rules etc and hence it may not be a good idea to merge and treat them as one. We are only merging DATA, nothing else. It is also possible for some people to run legacy email systems (ascii) and new tech (IDN) with EAI support in parallel , still they should be able to merge mailboxes. Let's have systems to as flexible as possible for admins. Just another thought and point of view to consider while designing systems. Ajay Data On 28-Feb-2017, 6:33:54 AM Jiankang Yao 'yaojk(a)cnnic.cn' wrote: hello, a little different observation here. normally, email address with ascii domain will be regarded as alias of email address with idn domain, or email address with idn domain will be regarded as alias of email address with ascii domain. both email addresses with ascii domain and idn domain will physically point to the same email box. in this case, ascii domain and idn domain should resolve to the same IP address in the DNS after the email system administrators configure the two email address as the alias of each other. So DNS should do something here. Jiankang Yao From: Andrew Sullivan (mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com) Date: 2017-02-27 23:19 To: ajay (mailto:ajay@data.in) CC: UA-discuss (mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org) Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] [UA-EAI] Revised UASG013 - Quick Guide to EAI On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 07:10:28AM +0530, ajay(a)data.in wrote: > Yes Dusan, you will need to own ASCII domain to full ascii Alias ID This is part of the reason several of us find "ASCII domain" and "[somelanguage] domain" to be such frustrating terms. There is nothing -- literally, absolultely nothing -- in the DNS that links these different domains, and no way to express such a link. Different registries will have different policies which link the names _administratively_, but nothing will link them technically. So, the way we should properly explain this is, "That's a different domain, so if you want to get mail there you need to control it too." Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs(a)anvilwalrusden.com

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person names
by Andre Schappo Feb. 27, 2017

Feb. 27, 2017

In the spirit of internationalization, setting a good working practice standard, rfc7997 https://twitter.com/andreschappo/status/828227664611778560, Unicode and good manners, I propose that this group should endeavour to write people's names in both the native script form and a romanised (Latin script) form. Furthermore, I consider the native language/script form is primary and should go first. The romanised form should go second as it is secondary. This name pair should be used in documentation, guides, communications, uasg website and email to this list. So, could all of you who have a name pair please use it when you write your name at the end of your emails to this list. name pair= primary name = full name or shortened name or given name or nickname in native language and script followed by secondary name = full name or shortened name or given name or nickname in romanised form example name pair: 王心凌 Xinling Wang Given a name pair also means one can search the internet for native language information about that person. eg There is a Chinese wood block printing artist appearing at Nottingham Trent University Global week which is this week https://ntuglobalweek.com In the promo material I have seen they give the artist's name as Lizhong Wei or Master Wei. Neither of these romanised secondary names are of much use for finding information written in Chinese. I did some research and found his primary name is 魏立中. Using his primary name gave me direct access to lots of information about him written in the Chinese language. Frequently when I see secondary names I would like to know how to write them in the primary form. Sometimes I follow it up, as above, but mostly I do not have the time. If everyone were to write their name pairs it would be both informative and useful. Many will not have a name pair because you only have a Latin script name eg Don Hollander Those of you that have Latin Script names, but the native form uses diacritics then please write your names with the diacritics as I do with mine. Actually, for many years I used to write my name as Andre as so many systems could not cope with André. I still come across some systems that break when I use André but the majority of systems can now handle André and now I insist that systems should be fixed to correctly handle André André Schappo

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Re: [UA-discuss] UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 17
by Harish Chowdhary Feb. 25, 2017

Feb. 25, 2017

Dear Ram,I endorse your suggestion.Thanks,Harish Chowdhary From: ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgSent: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 17:30:09 GMT+0530To: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 17Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to   ua-discuss(a)icann.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit   https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to   ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at   ua-discuss-owner(a)icann.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest..."Today's Topics:  1. Re: Election update... (Tan Tanaka, Dennis)  2. Re: Election update... (Andre Schappo)  3. Re: Election update... (Satish Babu)  4. Re: Election update... (Rinalia Abdul Rahim)  5. Re: Election update... (Jiankang Ya o)  6. Universal Acceptance White Paper - Draft for Comment     (Don Hollander)  7. Re: Election update... (Don Hollander)  8. FW: Proposed update of UTS #46,   for Unicode domain names     (Mark Svancarek)  9. [UA-discuss]     https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/true-multilingual-internet-starts-universal-acceptance-cindy-zhou?trk=hp-feed-article-title-publish     (Don Hollander)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 14:14:16 +0000From: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" <dtantanaka(a)verisign.com>To: Anthony Harris <anthonyrharris(a)gmail.com>, Richard Merdinger   <rmerdinger(a)godaddy.com>Cc: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Election update...Message-ID: <309F09AE-5DBB-4B29-BB55-1F226D3D66C9(a)verisign.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Ram,I endorse your suggestion to do away with a vote and accept all 6 vice-chairs.Thanks,-DennisFrom: <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Anthony Harris <anthonyrharris(a)gmail.com>Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 2:26 PMTo: Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger(a)godaddy.com>Cc: "UA-discuss(a)icann.org" <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-discuss] Election update...Ram,I too endorse your suggestion.Tony HarrisOn Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger@godaddy.com<mailto:rmerdinger@godaddy.com>> wrote:Ram,I wanted to chime in and fully endorse your suggestion.  The UASG has, since its inception, been an openly collaborative effort and embracing the initiative and expertise of my fellow vice-chair candidates would be great.So, my ?vote? to do away with the election and embrace all 6.And, thank you for your willingness to continue leading the group. I look forward to supporting you and working alongside you and the r est of the UASG team.Best,--RichRichard MerdingerVP, Domains - GoDaddyrmerdinger@godaddy.com<mailto:rmerdinger@godaddy.com>From: <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org>> on behalf of Ram Mohan <rmohan@afilias.info<mailto:rmohan@afilias.info>>Date: Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 11:04 AMTo: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>>, ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org>>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Election update...Dear UA-Folks:First off, thank you for re-nominating me to the Chair of this community initiative! I?m pleased and honored to serve this second and last term.Second, I?m so impressed at the enthusiasm and the energy from community members for the Vice Chair position. Six people want to volunteer their time and energy to build momentum for the UA initiative ? that?s phenomenal!May I suggest that we accept all six volunteers to the position, an d do away with a vote? I know that I could use the help, and I also know that corralling the energies of these six individuals, all of whom who have already participated and made material contributions to the UA initiative, will be a worthwhile enterprise.If you agree with my proposal (or have a different point of view), please post back to the list. If we can hear some consensus on my proposed approach, then we?ll take the administrative steps to having 6 vice-chairs ratified.Regards,Ram------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ram Mohano: +1.215.706.5700 x103; m: +1.215.431.0958; f: +1.215.706.5701Skype:gliderpilot30 |@rmohan123|www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan<http://www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan>From: Don Hollander [mailto:don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>]Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:45 PMTo: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org>>Subject: [UA-discuss] Election update...A quic k update on the election process:There was one accepted nomination for Chair:  Ram Mohan.  So, Ram continues in the role for another two years.   Congratulations.There were six accepted nominations for the three positions of Vice-Chair:Vice-Chair - Edmon ChungVice-Chair - Ajay DataVice-Chair - Christian DawsonVice-Chair - Jothan FrakesVice-Chair - Rich MerdingerVice-Chair - Mark SvancarekI am currently gathering materials from the candidates.  Should be done in the next day.Then, I?ll send a link to voting to all subscribers of this UA discuss list (as of the beginning of this week)Voting will be available for a week and then we should have a decision.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/8028c11e/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 14:43: 53 +0000From: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk>To: Ram Mohan <rmohan(a)afilias.info>, ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Election update...Message-ID: <B968EACD-017B-4BA9-8475-EC33B3697E36(a)lboro.ac.uk>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"? I am ok with having 6 vice chairs. I think it will be good for this group. The names are familiar to me and they are all people who contribute significantly to UA & i18n? How many subscribers does this ua-discuss list have? I am interested in how many people have a direct interest in UA.Andr? SchappoOn 23 Feb 2017, at 19:04, Ram Mohan <rmohan@afilias.info<mailto:rmohan@afilias.info>> wrote:Dear UA-Folks:First off, thank you for re-nominating me to the Chair of this community initiative! I?m pleased and honored to serve this second and last term.Second, I?m so impressed at the enthusiasm and the energy from community members for the Vice Chair position. Six people want to volunteer their time and energy to build momentum for the UA initiative ? that?s phenomenal!May I suggest that we accept all six volunteers to the position, and do away with a vote? I know that I could use the help, and I also know that corralling the energies of these six individuals, all of whom who have already participated and made material contributions to the UA initiative, will be a worthwhile enterprise.If you agree with my proposal (or have a different point of view), please post back to the list. If we can hear some consensus on my proposed approach, then we?ll take the administrative steps to having 6 vice-chairs ratified.Regards,Ram------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ram Mohano: +1.215.706.5700 x103; m: +1.215.431.0958; f: +1.215.706.5701Skype:gliderpilot30 |@rmohan123|www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan<http://www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan>From: Don Hollander [mailto:don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>]Sen t: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:45 PMTo: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org>>Subject: [UA-discuss] Election update...A quick update on the election process:There was one accepted nomination for Chair:  Ram Mohan.  So, Ram continues in the role for another two years.   Congratulations.There were six accepted nominations for the three positions of Vice-Chair:Vice-Chair - Edmon ChungVice-Chair - Ajay DataVice-Chair - Christian DawsonVice-Chair - Jothan FrakesVice-Chair - Rich MerdingerVice-Chair - Mark SvancarekI am currently gathering materials from the candidates.  Should be done in the next day.Then, I?ll send a link to voting to all subscribers of this UA discuss list (as of the beginning of this week)Voting will be available for a week and then we should have a decision.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <ht tp://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/a0454c3f/attach…: 3Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 20:28:08 +0530From: Satish Babu <sb.inapp(a)gmail.com>To: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk>Cc: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Election update...Message-ID:   <CAA8UJvDhuDVByfUG_gV7c+VnO8p=2sG1VLWS+uDz_v-X8PquDg@mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Congratulations to the new Chair and the six Vice-Chairs!We can hopefully take up more activities given this additional capacitywithin the leadership.satishOn Feb 24, 2017 20:15, "Andre Schappo" <A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote:? I am ok with having 6 vice chairs. I think it will be good for thisgroup. The names are familiar to me and they are all people who contributesignificantly to UA & i18n? How many subscribers does this ua-discuss list have? I am interested inhow many people have a direct interest in UA.Andr? SchappoOn 23 Feb 2017, at 19:04, Ram Mohan <rmohan(a)afilias.info> wrote:Dear UA-Folks:First off, thank you for re-nominating me to the Chair of this communityinitiative! I?m pleased and honored to serve this second and last term.Second, I?m so impressed at the enthusiasm and the energy from communitymembers for the Vice Chair position. Six people want to volunteer theirtime and energy to build momentum for the UA initiative ? that?s phenomenal!May I suggest that we accept *all six* volunteers to the position, and doaway with a vote? I know that I could use the help, and I also know thatcorralling the energies of these six individuals, all of whom who havealready participated and made material contributions to the UA initiative,will be a worthwhile enterprise.If you agree with my proposal (or have a different point of view), pleasepost back to the list. If we can hear some consensus on my proposedapproach, then we?ll take the administra tive steps to having 6 vice-chairsratified.Regards,Ram------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ram Mohano: +1.215.706.5700 x103; m: +1.215.431.0958; f: +1.215.706.5701Skype:gliderpilot30 |@rmohan123|www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan*From:* Don Hollander [mailto:don.hollander@icann.org]*Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:45 PM*To:* ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org>*Subject:* [UA-discuss] Election update...A quick update on the election process:There was one accepted nomination for Chair:  Ram Mohan.  So, Ram continuesin the role for another two years.   Congratulations.There were six accepted nominations for the three positions of Vice-Chair:Vice-Chair - Edmon ChungVice-Chair - Ajay DataVice-Chair - Christian DawsonVice-Chair - Jothan FrakesVice-Chair - Rich MerdingerVice-Chair - Mark SvancarekI am currently gathering materials from the candidates.  Should be done inthe next day.Then, I?ll send a link to voting to all subscrib ers of this UA discuss list(as of the beginning of this week)Voting will be available for a week and then we should have a decision.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/29268236/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 4Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 15:08:44 +0000From: Rinalia Abdul Rahim <rinalia.abdulrahim(a)gmail.com>To: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>, Ram Mohan   <rmohan(a)afilias.info>,    ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Election update...Message-ID:   <CANZv7UGJ4skVXFRE04UPeBb_5pE4TRHQbcau04zB8pZwfroYog@mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"+1 in support, Ram.RinaliaOn Thu, 23 Feb 2017 at 8:04 PM, Ram Mohan <rmohan(a)afilias.info> wrote:> Dear UA-F olks:>> First off, thank you for re-nominating me to the Chair of this community> initiative! I?m pleased and honored to serve this second and last term.>>>> Second, I?m so impressed at the enthusiasm and the energy from community> members for the Vice Chair position. Six people want to volunteer their> time and energy to build momentum for the UA initiative ? that?s phenomenal!>>>> May I suggest that we accept *all six* volunteers to the position, and do> away with a vote? I know that I could use the help, and I also know that> corralling the energies of these six individuals, all of whom who have> already participated and made material contributions to the UA initiative,> will be a worthwhile enterprise.>>>> If you agree with my proposal (or have a different point of view), please> post back to the list. If we can hear some consensus on my proposed> approach, then we?ll take the administrative steps to having 6 v ice-chairs> ratified.>>>> Regards,>> Ram>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>> Ram Mohan>> o: +1.215.706.5700 x103; m: +1.215.431.0958; f: +1.215.706.5701>> Skype:gliderpilot30 |(a)rmohan123|www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan>>>> *From:* Don Hollander [mailto:don.hollander@icann.org]> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:45 PM> *To:* ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>> *Subject:* [UA-discuss] Election update...>>>> A quick update on the election process:>>>> There was one accepted nomination for Chair:  Ram Mohan.  So, Ram> continues in the role for another two years.   Congratulations.>>>> There were six accepted nominations for the three positions of Vice-Chair:>>>> Vice-Chair - Edmon Chung>> Vice-Chair - Ajay Data>> Vice-Chair - Christian Dawson>> Vice-Chair - Jothan Frakes>> Vice-C hair - Rich Merdinger>> Vice-Chair - Mark Svancarek>>>> I am currently gathering materials from the candidates.  Should be done in> the next day.>>>> Then, I?ll send a link to voting to all subscribers of this UA discuss> list (as of the beginning of this week)>>>> Voting will be available for a week and then we should have a decision.>>>> Don>>>>>> Don Hollander>> Universal Acceptance Steering Group>> Skype: don_hollander>>>>>>>-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/77528d49/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 5Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 23:13:19 +0800 (GMT+08:00)From: "Jiankang Yao" <yaojk(a)cnnic.cn>To: "Ram Mohan" <rmohan(a)afilias.info>Cc: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Electio n update...Message-ID: <1895cacd.2801.15a70aef896.Coremail.yaojk(a)cnnic.cn>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Ram,I endorse your suggestion.Jiankang Yao-----????-----???:"Ram Mohan" <rmohan@afilias.info>????:2017-02-24 03:04:08 (???)???: "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>, ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org>??:??: Re: [UA-discuss] Election update...Dear UA-Folks:First off, thank you for re-nominating me to the Chair of this community initiative! I?m pleased and honored to serve this second and last term.Second, I?m so impressed at the enthusiasm and the energy from community members for the Vice Chair position. Six people want to volunteer their time and energy to build momentum for the UA initiative ? that?s phenomenal!May I suggest that we accept all six volunteers to the position, and do away with a vote? I know that I could use the help, and I also know that corralling the energies of these six individuals, all of w hom who have already participated and made material contributions to the UA initiative, will be a worthwhile enterprise.If you agree with my proposal (or have a different point of view), please post back to the list. If we can hear some consensus on my proposed approach, then we?ll take the administrative steps to having 6 vice-chairs ratified.Regards,Ram------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ram Mohano: +1.215.706.5700 x103; m: +1.215.431.0958; f: +1.215.706.5701Skype:gliderpilot30 |(a)rmohan123|www.linkedin.com/in/rmohanFrom: Don Hollander [mailto:don.hollander@icann.org]Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:45 PMTo: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] Election update...A quick update on the election process:There was one accepted nomination for Chair:  Ram Mohan.  So, Ram continues in the role for another two years.   Congratulations.There were six accepted nominations for the three positions of Vice-Chair :Vice-Chair - Edmon ChungVice-Chair - Ajay DataVice-Chair - Christian DawsonVice-Chair - Jothan FrakesVice-Chair - Rich MerdingerVice-Chair - Mark SvancarekI am currently gathering materials from the candidates.  Should be done in the next day.Then, I?ll send a link to voting to all subscribers of this UA discuss list (as of the beginning of this week)Voting will be available for a week and then we should have a decision.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/55c5b653/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 6Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 17:58:12 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] Universal Acceptance White Paper - Draft for   CommentMessage-ID: <73553CCF-82D3-4E63-8CB4-F3D5B45E7F16@ican n.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"You may recall that last year we commissioned a White Paper to look at the Economic, Social and Cultural value of pursuing Universal Acceptance.Please find attached a draft of the report prepared by Analysys Mason.Your comments would be welcome either on-line or during the UASG Workshop in Copenhagen where we?ll devote some considerable time to it.Please note that this is a draft and is not ripe for public distribution.Don-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: Draft UA white paper for UASG - version 2 CLEAN with water mark.pdfType: application/pdfSize: 1143662 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/33c7ecf2/DraftUAwhitepaperforUASG-version2CLEANwithwatermark-0001.pdf>-------------- next part --------------Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------A non-text at tachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/33c7ecf2/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 7Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2017 18:10:56 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: Andre Schappo <A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk>Cc: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Election update...Message-ID: <85FC2D01-2CD6-4DA8-AF92-7033C1AA0341(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Andre:  FYI we have about 245 subscribers to the list.Don> On 25/02/2017, at 3:43 AM, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote:>> ? I am ok with having 6 vice chairs. I think it will be good for this group. The names are familiar to me and they are all people who contribute significantly to UA & i18n>> ? How many subscribers does this ua-discuss list have? I am interested in ho w many people have a direct interest in UA.>> Andr? Schappo>>> On 23 Feb 2017, at 19:04, Ram Mohan <rmohan(a)afilias.info <mailto:rmohan@afilias.info>> wrote:>>>> Dear UA-Folks: <>>> First off, thank you for re-nominating me to the Chair of this community initiative! I?m pleased and honored to serve this second and last term.>>  >> Second, I?m so impressed at the enthusiasm and the energy from community members for the Vice Chair position. Six people want to volunteer their time and energy to build momentum for the UA initiative ? that?s phenomenal!>>  >> May I suggest that we accept all six volunteers to the position, and do away with a vote? I know that I could use the help, and I also know that corralling the energies of these six individuals, all of whom who have already participated and made material contributions to the UA initiative, will be a worthwhile enterprise.>>  >> If yo u agree with my proposal (or have a different point of view), please post back to the list. If we can hear some consensus on my proposed approach, then we?ll take the administrative steps to having 6 vice-chairs ratified.>>  >> Regards,>> Ram>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------>> Ram Mohan>> o: +1.215.706.5700 x103; m: +1.215.431.0958; f: +1.215.706.5701>> Skype:gliderpilot30 <skype:gliderpilot30> |(a)rmohan123|www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan <http://www.linkedin.com/in/rmohan>>>  >> From: Don Hollander [mailto:don.hollander@icann.org <mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>]>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:45 PM>> To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org <mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org>>>> Subject: [UA-discuss] Election update...>>  >> A quick update on the election process:>>  >> There was one accepted nomina tion for Chair:  Ram Mohan.  So, Ram continues in the role for another two years.   Congratulations.>>  >> There were six accepted nominations for the three positions of Vice-Chair:>>  >> Vice-Chair - Edmon Chung>> Vice-Chair - Ajay Data>> Vice-Chair - Christian Dawson>> Vice-Chair - Jothan Frakes>> Vice-Chair - Rich Merdinger>> Vice-Chair - Mark Svancarek>>  >> I am currently gathering materials from the candidates.  Should be done in the next day.>>  >> Then, I?ll send a link to voting to all subscribers of this UA discuss list (as of the beginning of this week)>>  >> Voting will be available for a week and then we should have a decision.>>  >> Don>>  >>  >> Don Hollander>> Universal Acceptance Steering Group>> Skype: don_hollanderDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hol lander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/82a8780b/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170224/82a8780b/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 8Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 00:48:08 +0000From: Mark Svancarek <marksv(a)microsoft.com>To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Cc: "Jeff Stone \(CELA\)" <jeffsto(a)microsoft.com>,   Shawn Steele   <Shawn.Steele(a)microsoft.com>,   Peter Constable <petercon(a)microsoft.com>Subject: [UA-discuss] FW: Proposed update of UTS #46,   for Unicode   domain namesMessage-ID:   <MWHPR21MB07038B3949567B9C3C2FE EF8D1550@MWHPR21MB0703.namprd21.prod.outlook.com>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"I don't feel qualified to pass judgement on this update - UA folks, care to chime in?From: root@unicode.org<mailto:root@unicode.org> [mailto:root@unicode.org] On Behalf Of announcements@unicode.org<mailto:announcements@unicode.org>Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:40 PMTo: announcements@unicode.org<mailto:announcements@unicode.org>Subject: Proposed update of UTS #46, for Unicode domain namesUTS #46 "Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing"<http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr46/tr46-18.html> is used by many applications to support internationalized domain names with non-English characters. The proposed update to Version 10.0 regenerates the UTS #46 data files based on new additions to the Unicode repertoire, and adds three new parameters for processing: CheckHyphens, CheckBidi, and CheckJoiners. These parameters allow implemen tations to reflect current practice in browsers. The note about the use of IDNA2008 now includes the number of "missing" IDNA2008 characters (26,568), and is reworded for clarity.There are two review notes requesting feedback on the use of Joiner characters.For details and information about how to provide feedback, please see Public Review Issue #347<http://www.unicode.org/review/pri347/>.http://blog.unicode.org/2017/02/proposed-update-of-uts-46-for-unicode.html-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170225/f4ca5e08/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 9Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2017 04:43:34 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss]   https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/true-multilingu… sh   Message-ID: <FBB0CCFB-2342-4688-B21C-A3DCE99283F3(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Another report on UA?Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170225/e5fca1be/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------_______________________________________________UA-discuss mailing listUA-discuss@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussEnd of UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 17****************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [NIXI is on Social-Media too. 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[UA-discuss] https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/true-multilingual-internet-starts-universal-acceptance-cindy-zhou?trk=hp-feed-article-title-publish
by Don Hollander Feb. 25, 2017

Feb. 25, 2017

Another report on UA… Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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FW: Proposed update of UTS #46, for Unicode domain names
by Mark Svancarek Feb. 25, 2017

Feb. 25, 2017

I don't feel qualified to pass judgement on this update - UA folks, care to chime in? From: root(a)unicode.org<mailto:root@unicode.org> [mailto:root@unicode.org] On Behalf Of announcements(a)unicode.org<mailto:announcements@unicode.org> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:40 PM To: announcements(a)unicode.org<mailto:announcements@unicode.org> Subject: Proposed update of UTS #46, for Unicode domain names UTS #46 "Unicode IDNA Compatibility Processing"<http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr46/tr46-18.html> is used by many applications to support internationalized domain names with non-English characters. The proposed update to Version 10.0 regenerates the UTS #46 data files based on new additions to the Unicode repertoire, and adds three new parameters for processing: CheckHyphens, CheckBidi, and CheckJoiners. These parameters allow implementations to reflect current practice in browsers. The note about the use of IDNA2008 now includes the number of "missing" IDNA2008 characters (26,568), and is reworded for clarity. There are two review notes requesting feedback on the use of Joiner characters. For details and information about how to provide feedback, please see Public Review Issue #347<http://www.unicode.org/review/pri347/>. http://blog.unicode.org/2017/02/proposed-update-of-uts-46-for-unicode.html

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Election update...
by Don Hollander Feb. 24, 2017

Feb. 24, 2017

A quick update on the election process: There was one accepted nomination for Chair: Ram Mohan. So, Ram continues in the role for another two years. Congratulations. There were six accepted nominations for the three positions of Vice-Chair: Vice-Chair - Edmon Chung Vice-Chair - Ajay Data Vice-Chair - Christian Dawson Vice-Chair - Jothan Frakes Vice-Chair - Rich Merdinger Vice-Chair - Mark Svancarek I am currently gathering materials from the candidates. Should be done in the next day. Then, I’ll send a link to voting to all subscribers of this UA discuss list (as of the beginning of this week) Voting will be available for a week and then we should have a decision. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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