March 2017 - UA-discuss - lists.iana.org

FW: I-D Action: draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis-00.txt
by Mark Svancarek July 6, 2017

July 6, 2017

FYI, too much stuff from John for me to dig into this a.m. -----Original Message----- From: Idna-update [mailto:idna-update-bounces@alvestrand.no] On Behalf Of John C Klensin Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 8:25 AM To: idna-update(a)alvestrand.no Subject: FWD: I-D Action: draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis-00.txt Hi. For the information of those who may be watching this list but not the IETF announcement one... Asmus Freytag and I have started to put together a draft that addresses a problem with the IDNA2008 specs, specifically that we failed to make the responsibility of registries to define code point and label acceptability rules that were considerably more narrow (and better understood by them) than the full set of labels allowed by RFC 5891-5893. It doesn't actually change anything because that requirement is in the existing specs; it just makes (or tries to make) the requirements painfully clear to those who have been missing or misreading them. It also provides an explicit link between IDNA2008 requirements and ICANN work on repertoires and label generation rules without endorsing that work as more than one thoughtful approach that might be examined for either reference or inspiration. Comments (obviously) welcome. For anyone who might wonder, this document avoids the more controversial IDNA2008 issues including: * Multiple suggestions that we should add emoji, a subset of code points with General Category "So", to the list of code points allowed by IDNA. There are many reasons to not do that but it seems clear that, at some point, the IETF will need to either document those reasons or make the change. Volunteers to put together or work on a document would be welcome. * The non-decomposing code point problem, formerly (and incorrectly) known as the Hamza problem. There has been no discernable activity on this since the IAB Statement and LUCID BOF almost exactly two years ago. I've further updated the working copy of draft-klensin-idna-5892upd-unicode70 to cover additional cases and issues, but, in part because it is clearly inappropriate for a quick-patch individual submission, have been advised to not post it until we have a plan to make progress. So far, there is no such plan. * The (IMO, growing) problem of multiple and inconsistent specifications for IDNs and IDN handling, with different ones being used in different higher-level protocols and areas of the Internet. The use of different specifications and definitions creates opportunities for user and implementer confusion, interoperability difficulties, domain names that cannot be resolved under some circumstances, and various sorts of attacks. The specifications involved include IDNA2008, IDNA2003, assorted local "updates" to IDNA2003 that use versions of Stringprep locally updated to assorted versions of Unicode, and the various versions of UTR#46. The latest version of the latter explicitly allows emoji along with other symbols. A few months ago, I suggested to the IAB I18N program that a document be produced that at least pointed out the problems associated with multiple divergent specifications, but the idea got no traction. It appears to me that, although almost everyone agrees that IDNs, and well- and clearly-functional IDNs, are important, virtually no one is willing to do the hard work, at least unless they are being supported by ICANN (disclosure: I am not) or organizations whose interests lie in selling names, preferably as many of them as possible (I have no support from any of them either). Until and unless that changes, I don't see much prospect for getting those other issues addressed in a way that might lead to consensus documents. john ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Saturday, March 11, 2017 07:22 -0800 From: internet-drafts(a)ietf.org To: i-d-announce(a)ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis-00.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA): Registry Restrictions and Recommendations Authors : John C Klensin Asmus Freytag Filename : draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis-00.txt Pages : 10 Date : 2017-03-11 Abstract: The IDNA specifications for internationalized domain names combine rules that determine the labels that are allowed in the DNS without violating the protocol itself and an assignment of responsibility, consistent with earlier specifications, for determining the labels that are allowed in particular zones. Conformance to IDNA by registries and other implementations requires both parts. Experience strongly suggests that the language describing those responsibility was insufficiently clear to promote safe and interoperable use of the specifications and that more details and some specific examples would have been helpful. This specification updates the earlier ones to provide that guidance and to correct some technical errors in the descriptions. It does not alter the protocols and rules themselves in any way. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis/ There's also a htmlized version available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-klensin-idna-rfc5891bis-00 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ _______________________________________________ I-D-Announce mailing list I-D-Announce(a)ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt ---------- End Forwarded Message ---------- _______________________________________________ Idna-update mailing list Idna-update(a)alvestrand.no http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/idna-update

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69 New Emoji Have Been Approved By Unicode - Just in case you thought this Emoji stuff was a flash in the pan 🍳💥
by Don Hollander April 10, 2017

April 10, 2017

> https://www.forbes.com/sites <https://www.forbes.com/sites> > > 69 New Emoji Have Been Approved By Unicode > Mar 30, 2017 @ 10:31 PM > > Emojipedia > > Emoji 5.0 / Photo Credit: Emojipedia <http://emojipedia.org/> > Emojipedia founder and Chief Emoji Officer Jeremy Burge has announced <http://blog.emojipedia.org/final-2017-emoji-list/> that the Unicode Consortium has approved 69 emoji as part of the Emoji 5.0 update for 2017. The Unicode Consortium is a non-profit that develops software internationalization standards and data. Emoji 5.0 includes new smileys, foods, drinks, flags and people. And the Emoji 5.0 update will include new fantasy characters for the first time like mermaids (and mermen), zombies, elves, genies and vampires. > > The Emoji 5.0 update is slated to release in June 2017 and it actually contains 239 emoji in total when gender and skin tone recommendations are included. After the Unicode Consortium encodes the new emoji, vendors like Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and Twitter decide when to implement the changes. Google and Apple will likely implement the new emoji between October and December 2017. But the companies may potentially modify the emoji based on their preferences. For example, Apple replaced the gun emoji with a water gun in a previous emoji update. These 69 emoji will be joining approximately 2,000 other emoji that are already available. Here is a video that Emojipedia released introducing the new emoji: > > > There are a number of noteworthy additions in the Emoji 5.0 update. The update includes gender-inclusive versions of children, adults and older adults. Additions to the “faces” category include a star-struck face, a face with a raised eyebrow (inspired by Stephen Colbert), an exploding head, a face with symbols over the mouth (swearing), a shushing face, a face with a hand over the mouth and a face with a monocle. New emoji in the “animals” category include a zebra, a giraffe, a hedgehog, a sauropod, a T-Rex and a cricket. Emoji 5.0 includes the flags of England, Scotland and Wales. And emoji being introduced to the “food” category are a cut of meat (steak), a coconut, broccoli, a pretzel, a sandwich, cereal, canned food, a dumpling, a fortune cookie, a hot pie, a takeout box and a cup with a straw. > > In this release, no gendered versions of breast-feeding, a bearded person or person with headscarf are being added. Male and female options will be available for yoga, rock climbing and person in steamy room. According to Burge via the Los Angeles Times <http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-new-emoji-gender-neutra…>, the bearded man, a woman in a hijab and the giraffe were some of the most requested emoji. > > The proposal <https://www.forbes.com/sites/amitchowdhry/2016/11/29/hijab-gender-neutral-b…> of an emoji woman wearing a hijab was sought by a teenager named Rayouf Alhumedi, which was supported by Reddit co-founder Alexis Ohanian. The gender neutral emoji were proposed by Adobe designer Paul Hunt. And interestingly, the Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Finland pushed for the person in steamy room (sauna) emoji. > > The Unicode Consortium has made it a priority to include diverse sets of emoji in every release. In November 2015, the Unicode Consortium published Emoji Version 2.0, which introduced skin tone modifier support. About a year later, the Unicode Consortium added 16 new emoji professions (including female and male versions) along with a rainbow flag. And the prospect of a redhead emoji is currently being discussed <http://blog.emojipedia.org/utc-provides-feedback-on-redhead-emoji/>. > > Here is a list of the emoji contained in the Emoji 5.0 update <http://emojipedia.org/emojipedia/5.0/>: > > - Face With One Eyebrow Raised (aka Colbert Emoji) > > - Grinning Face With Star Eyes > > - Grinning Face With One Large and One Small Eye > > - Face With Finger Covering Closed Lips (aka Shhh) > > - Serious Face With Symbols Covering Mouth (aka Swearing Face) > > - Smiling Face With Smiling Eyes and Hand Covering Mouth > > - Face With Monocle > > - Shocked Face With Exploding Head > > - Face With Open Mouth Vomiting > > - Child (Gender-Inclusive; supports skin tones) > > - Adult (Gender-Inclusive; supports skin tones) > > - Older Adult (Gender-Inclusive; supports skin tones) > > - Person With Headscarf (aka Hijab; supports skin tones) > > - Bearded Person (Supports skin tones) > > - Breast-Feeding (Supports skin tones) > > - Woman Mage (aka Witch; supports skin tones) > > - Man Mage (aka Wizard; supports skin tones) > > - Woman Fairy (Supports skin tones) > > - Man Fairy (Supports skin tones) > > - Woman Vampire (Supports skin tones) > > - Man Vampire (Supports skin tones) > > - Merwoman (aka Mermaid; supports skin tones) > > - Merman (Supports skin tones) > > - Woman Elf (Supports skin tones) > > - Man Elf (Supports skin tones) > > - Woman Genie > > - Man Genie > > - Woman Zombie (Supports skin tones) > > - Man Zombie (Supports skin tones) > > - Woman in Steamy Room (aka Woman in Sauna; supports skin tones) > > - Man in Steamy Room (aka Man in Sauna; supports skin tones) > > - Woman Climbing (aka Female Rock Climber; supports skin tones) > > - Man Climbing (aka Male Rock Climber; supports skin tones) > > - Woman in Lotus Position (aka Meditation or Yoga; supports skin tones) > > - Man in Lotus Position (aka Meditation or Yoga; supports skin tones) > > - I Love You Hand Sign (Supports skin tones) > > - Palms Up Together (Supports skin tones) > > - Brain > > - Orange Heart > > - Scarf > > - Gloves > > - Coat > > - Socks > > - Billed Cap (aka Baseball Cap) > > - Zebra Face > > - Giraffe Face > > - Hedgehog > > - Sauropod > > - T-Rex > > - Cricket > > - Coconut > > - Broccoli > > - Pretzel > > - Cut of Meat (aka Steak) > > - Sandwich > > - Bowl With Spoon (aka Cereal) > > - Canned Food > > - Dumpling > > - Fortune Cookie > > - Takeout Box > > - Pie > > - Cup With Straw (aka Soda or Milkshake) > > - Chopsticks > > - Flying Saucer > > - Sled > > - Curling Stone > > - Flag for England > > - Flag for Scotland > > - Flag for Wales > > What are your thoughts about the new emoji? Which of these emoji do you plan to use the most? Please leave a comment! > Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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Re : RE: Re : Re: [Ext] EAI Service Providers - My Update
by deepak March 30, 2017

March 30, 2017

Hi All, This is very good initiative to correct EAI Detail by product/company owner. I would request to all product/company owner to update/correct their compability to EAI provisioning if they find something wrong. So that final list can be submitted to UASG.ThanksDeepak From: Raed Al-Fayez MailId : [67705300]To: don hollander Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ,deepak Subject: RE: [UA-discuss] Re : Re: [Ext] EAI Service Providers - My UpdateDate: 30 Mar 2017 02:06:46 PM v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML)} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML)} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML)} shape {behavior:url(#default#VML)} Dear Don, Please allow me to update the row related for Raseel Project sponsored by SaudiNIC to be: Saudi Network Information Centre (SaudiNIC) Raseel (رسيل) Server NO YES IMAP, SMTP, Webmail Yes http://www.nic.sa/en/ https://eai.raseel.sa/ رسيل.السعودية Thanks. Raed Alfayez From: ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of deepak Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 7:13 AM To: don hollander Cc: ua-discuss(a)icann.org Subject: [UA-discuss] Re : Re: [Ext] EAI Service Providers - My Update Hello Don, This can be detailed structure as Global EAI Status and may be it can go online on uasg.tech Company Product / Service Client or Server Commercial Available EAI MailBox Provider Protocol Supported for EAI EAI Mail Exchange Supported (SMTP ) Company / Product Website Microsoft Outlook 2016 for Windows Client YES N/A IMAP,POP3,SMTP N/A https://support.office.com Google GMail Server YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.gmail.com Apple Iphone Mail client Client YES N/A NO NO https://support.apple.com/mail BharatSync EAI mail for IoS Client YES N/A IMAP,SMTP NO https://itunes.apple.com/ Yandex Yandex (Russia) Server YES NO SMTP,webmail NO https://www.yandex.com/ Coremail Coremail (China) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO http://mail.chinacnd.com/ Data Xgen XgenPlus (India) Server YES YES IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.xgenplus.com/ Throughway Throughway (Thailand ) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO https://www.throughwave.co.th/ Saudi Network Information Centre SaudiNic Server NO YES N/A NO http://www.nic.sa/en/ OpenFind MailCloud Server NO YES SMTP,Webmail NO http://www.openfind.com/english/ Horde, LLC Horde Client YES N/A Webmail NO https://www.horde.org/ PostFix PostFix Server YES N/A SMTP YES http://www.postfix.org/ Spamjadoo Spamjadoo (antispam) Server YES N/A SMTP, WEB YES http://www.spamjadoo.com EXIM Exim Server NO NO SMTP YES http://www.eximin.net/ Sendmail Sendmail Server NO NO SMTP YES Data Xgen DatatMail (Android+IOS) Client YES YES IMAP,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.datamail.in/ BharatSync BharatSync Communicator (Android) Client YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP YES https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bharatsync.communicator Deepak Singhal From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org> MailId : [67640991] To: deepak deepak.singhal(a)dil.in> Cc: "a.schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk" a.schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [Ext] EAI Service Providers - My Update Date: 28 Mar 2017 08:52:50 PM THanks Deepak. My list is of folks who are working on EAI as well as the in production. If we were to make a table, what would the headers look like? (removing UA-Discuss during conversational mode) D On 29/03/2017, at 1:15 AM, deepak deepak.singhal(a)dil.in> wrote: Don and Andre List below need some MAJOR corrections for clear understanding. EAI Email Providers - would probably mean A company / product which can offer EAI mailbox on IDN domain. Not simply receiving or sending email to EAI. &bullMicrosoft - (you mean office365, its still not EAI provider, supports EAI) &bullGoogle - ( you mean gmail, and its still not EAI provider, supports EAI) &bullApple - ( apple do not offer EAI and iphone do not support configuration of EAI account, EAI Mail app on IOS does ) &bullYandex (Russia) - ( do not offer EAI ) &bullCoremail (China) - ( looks like you are testing it, however not yet available on their website commercially for public) &bullXgenPlus (India) - ( commercially available) &bullThroughway (Thailand) ( not aware, however their presentation shows they are using gmail as client to send and receive) &bullSaudiNic (Not aware) &bullOpenFind (Taiwan) - (on thier website https://www.mailcloudcom.tw/, they are not offering EAI (google search)) &bullHorde (USA) (https://www.horde.org/apps/webmail - its only webmail, need EAI server at backend like XGENPLUS) &bullPostFix (Global) - (PostFix is only MTA, neither has IMAP/POP/Webmail, so cant offer EAI without other supporting client) &bullAfilias ( dont know status - public information not available ) &bullExim ( just like postfix) &bullSendmail (just like postfix) So, EAI Service Providers are only few as of now i.e XgenPlus - Fully available Globally (not only in India) in public domain (free and paid), CoreMail and Throughway seems to be available in test mode. May be we create two lists,, 1) EAI Service Provider and 2) Products / Services Supporting EAI Also include Android Phone Mail client and Microsoft Outlook 2016, which can allow configuration of EAI, if supported by EAI ready imap / smtp server. Please correct me if I am missing something. Deepak From: ua-discuss-request(a)icann.org MailId : [67637691] To: ua-discuss(a)icann.org Subject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21 Date: 28 Mar 2017 05:30:21 PM Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to ua-discuss(a)icann.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discuss or, via email, send a message with subject or body `help` to ua-discuss-request(a)icann.org You can reach the person managing the list at ua-discuss-owner(a)icann.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest." Today`s Topics: 1. Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo) 2. test (Andre Schappo) 3. UASG Events coming up. (Don Hollander) 4. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Tan Tanaka, Dennis) 5. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 6. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Yaling Tan) 7. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 8. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 9. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:54:12 +0000 From: Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - Summary Message-ID: 155987FB-B9F1-4A97-B68F-DD21A83D4DDB(a)lboro.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8" When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. .and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities Andr? Schappo ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:58:19 +0000 From: Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] test Message-ID: 4972F38C-C7C2-4916-96A7-07C169BFB5DD(a)lboro.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8" test because it appears email is not being distributed to this list Andr? Schappo ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:43:25 +0000 From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org> To: ua-discuss UA-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG Events coming up. Message-ID: D02B46CB-6816-4883-9C0F-296B93A33EE5(a)icann.org> Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8" There are several UA events coming up? In just a few hours at the WHD.Global (World Hosting Days) conference in Germany, there will be a Night Talk about Universal Acceptance. On April 11 &amp 12 in Redmond Washington there is a Face-to-Face meeting of the UASG Coordination group. (Program attached). These are public meetings and we?ll make them available through the Adobe Connect room, but if you?re in the neighbourhood please feel welcome to come and participate. Do please let me know in advance if you can for logistics. On April 11 at 6:00PM at the Seattle Marriott in Redmond we?ll be holding a reception and launch of the White Paper on Universal Acceptance. Again, all are welcome but do please let me know if you?ll be attending for catering purposes On April 12 &amp 13 (starting at 13:00 on the 12th) there will be an EAI workshop. (Program attached). Again, this is a public event and we?ll make it available through the Adobe Connect room. But if you are planning on attending in person, please let me know for logistical purposes. [A list of expected attendees is include in the program - so if you?re planning on being there and not on the list, please do let me know). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed. Name: 00 Agenda - UA Coordination - April 2017.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 439438 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170327/c20fcad6/00Ag… -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed. 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I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. .and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. Andr? Schappo ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:20:40 +0000 From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org> To: Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - Summary Message-ID: FBD255B8-6F41-45E0-B658-80240FB6190A(a)icann.org> Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8" Andre, et al? Here?s my list of folks that are working on this: EAI Email Providers ?Microsoft ?Google ?Apple ?Yandex (Russia) ?Coremail (China) ?XgenPlus (India) ?Throughway (Thailand) ?SaudiNic ?OpenFind (Taiwan) ?Horde (USA) ?PostFix (Global) ?Afilias ?Exim ?Sendmail The Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution. CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004) Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version. Don > On 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote: > > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. > > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language > ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese > ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic > ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) > ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) > > Notes: > > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. > > .and onto something different > > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. > > Andr? Schappo > Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed. URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170327/a3c222fa/atta… -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed. 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On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote: When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. .and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. Andr? Schappo ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:42:55 +0000 From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org> To: Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn> Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary Message-ID: AD943ADE-A33B-41A3-B46B-4D7B4CDDD410(a)icann.org> Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8" I thought TWNIC used OpenFind. Chinese E-mail ? Chiang https://ccnso.icann.org/meetings/copenhagen58/presentation-twnic-chinese-ea…> > On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn> wrote: > > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese. > > Sent from my iPad > > ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ua-discuss(a)icann.org> ??? > > Nice work Andr?! > > On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote: > > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. > > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language > ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese > ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic > ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) > ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) > > Notes: > > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. > > .and onto something different > > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. > > Andr? Schappo > > > > > Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed. URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/234c1850/atta… -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed. Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3869 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/234c1850/smim… ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:43:17 +0000 From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org> To: Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn> Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8" I thought TWNIC used OpenFind. Chinese E-mail ? Chiang https://ccnso.icann.org/meetings/copenhagen58/presentation-twnic-chinese-ea…> > On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn mailto:tyl@teleinfo.cn>> wrote: > > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese. > > Sent from my iPad > > ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ua-discuss(a)icann.org mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>> ??? > > Nice work Andr?! > > On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Andre Schappo" ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote: > > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. > > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language > ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese > ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic > ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) > ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) > > Notes: > > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. > > .and onto something different > > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. > > Andr? Schappo > > > > > Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed. URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/85cce0d8/atta… -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed. 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Here?s my list of folks that are working on this: EAI Email Providers ?Microsoft ?Google ?Apple ?Yandex (Russia) ?Coremail (China) ?XgenPlus (India) ?Throughway (Thailand) ?SaudiNic ?OpenFind (Taiwan) ?Horde (USA) ?PostFix (Global) ?Afilias ?Exim ?Sendmail The Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution. CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004) Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version. Don On 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo A.Schappo@lboro.ac.ukmailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote: When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. .and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. 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Re : Re: [Ext] EAI Service Providers - My Update
by deepak March 30, 2017

March 30, 2017

Hello Don,This can be detailed structure as Global EAI Status and may be it can go online on uasg.tech Company Product / Service Client or Server Commercial Available EAI MailBox Provider Protocol Supported for EAI EAI Mail Exchange Supported (SMTP ) Company / Product Website Microsoft Outlook 2016 for Windows Client YES N/A IMAP,POP3,SMTP N/A https://support.office.com Google GMail Server YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.gmail.com Apple Iphone Mail client Client YES N/A NO NO https://support.apple.com/mail BharatSync EAI mail for IoS Client YES N/A IMAP,SMTP NO https://itunes.apple.com/ Yandex Yandex (Russia) Server YES NO SMTP,webmail NO https://www.yandex.com/ Coremail Coremail (China) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO http://mail.chinacnd.com/ Data Xgen XgenPlus (India) Server YES YES IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.xgenplus.com/ Throughway Throughway (Thailand ) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO https://www.throughwave.co.th/ Saudi Network Information Centre SaudiNic Server NO YES N/A NO http://www.nic.sa/en/ OpenFind MailCloud Server NO YES SMTP,Webmail NO http://www.openfind.com/english/ Horde, LLC Horde Client YES N/A Webmail NO https://www.horde.org/ PostFix PostFix Server YES N/A SMTP YES http://www.postfix.org/ Spamjadoo Spamjadoo (antispam) Server YES N/A SMTP, WEB YES http://www.spamjadoo.com EXIM Exim Server NO NO SMTP YES http://www.eximin.net/ Sendmail Sendmail Server NO NO SMTP YES Data Xgen DatatMail (Android+IOS) Client YES YES IMAP,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.datamail.in/ BharatSync BharatSync Communicator (Android) Client YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP YES https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bharatsync.communicator Deepak Singhal From: Don Hollander MailId : [67640991]To: deepak Cc: "a.schappo(a)lboro.acuk" Subject: Re: [Ext] EAI Service Providers - My UpdateDate: 28 Mar 2017 08:52:50 PM THanks Deepak. My list is of folks who are working on EAI as well as the in production. If we were to make a table, what would the headers look like? (removing UA-Discuss during conversational mode) D On 29/03/2017, at 1:15 AM, deepak deepak.singhal(a)dil.in> wrote: Don and AndreList below need some MAJOR corrections for clear understandingEAI Email Providers - would probably mean A company / product which can offer EAI mailbox on IDN domain. Not simply receiving or sending email to EAI &bullMicrosoft - (you mean office365, its still not EAI provider, supports EAI) &bullGoogle - ( you mean gmail, and its still not EAI provider, supports EAI) &bullApple - ( apple do not offer EAI and iphone do not support configuration of EAI account, EAI Mail app on IOS does ) &bullYandex (Russia) - ( do not offer EAI ) &bullCoremail (China) - ( looks like you are testing it, however not yet available on their website commercially for public) &bullXgenPlus (India) - ( commercially available) &bullThroughway (Thailand) ( not aware, however their presentation shows they are using gmail as client to send and receive) &bullSaudiNic (Not aware) &bullOpenFind (Taiwan) - (on thier website https://www.mailcloudcom.tw/, they are not offering EAI (google search)) &bullHorde (USA) (https://www.horde.org/apps/webmail - its only webmail, need EAI server at backend like XGENPLUS) &bullPostFix (Global) - (PostFix is only MTA, neither has IMAP/POP/Webmail, so cant offer EAI without other supporting client) &bullAfilias ( dont know status - public information not available ) &bullExim ( just like postfix) &bullSendmail (just like postfix) So, EAI Service Providers are only few as of now i.e XgenPlus - Fully available Globally (not only in India) in public domain (free and paid), CoreMail and Throughway seems to be available in test mode. May be we create two lists,, 1) EAI Service Provider and 2) Products / Services Supporting EAIAlso include Android Phone Mail client and Microsoft Outlook 2016, which can allow configuration of EAI, if supported by EAI ready imap / smtp server. Please correct me if I am missing something.Deepak From: ua-discuss-request(a)icann.org MailId : [67637691]To: ua-discuss@icannorgSubject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21Date: 28 Mar 2017 05:30:21 PM Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to ua-discuss(a)icann.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussor, via email, send a message with subject or body `help` to ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at ua-discuss-owner(a)icann.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest.."Today`s Topics: 1. Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo) 2. test (Andre Schappo) 3. UASG Events coming up.. (Don Hollander) 4. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Tan Tanaka, Dennis) 5. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 6. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Yaling Tan) 7. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 8. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 9. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:54:12 +0000From: Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk>To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: 155987FB-B9F1-4A97-B68F-DD21A83D4DDB(a)lboro.ac.uk>Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)Notes:A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year...and onto something differentTomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.Andr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 2Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:58:19 +0000From: Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk>To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] testMessage-ID: 4972F38C-C7C2-4916-96A7-07C169BFB5DD(a)lboro.ac.uk>Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"test because it appears email is not being distributed to this listAndr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 3Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:43:25 +0000From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: ua-discuss UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG Events coming up..Message-ID: D02B46CB-6816-4883-9C0F-296B93A33EE5(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"There are several UA events coming up?In just a few hours at the WHD.Global (World Hosting Days) conference in Germany, there will be a Night Talk about Universal Acceptance.On April 11 &amp 12 in Redmond Washington there is a Face-to-Face meeting of the UASG Coordination group. (Program attached). These are public meetings and we?ll make them available through the Adobe Connect room, but if you?re in the neighbourhood please feel welcome to come and participate. Do please let me know in advance if you can for logistics.On April 11 at 6:00PM at the Seattle Marriott in Redmond we?ll be holding a reception and launch of the White Paper on Universal Acceptance. Again, all are welcome but do please let me know if you?ll be attending for catering purposesOn April 12 &amp 13 (starting at 13:00 on the 12th) there will be an EAI workshop. (Program attached). Again, this is a public event and we?ll make it available through the Adobe Connect room. But if you are planning on attending in person, please let me know for logistical purposes. 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On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote: When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. .and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. Andr? Schappo ------------------------------Message: 5Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:20:40 +0000From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: FBD255B8-6F41-45E0-B658-80240FB6190A(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"Andre, et al?Here?s my list of folks that are working on this:EAI Email Providers?Microsoft ?Google ?Apple ?Yandex (Russia) ?Coremail (China) ?XgenPlus (India) ?Throughway (Thailand) ?SaudiNic ?OpenFind (Taiwan) ?Horde (USA) ?PostFix (Global)?Afilias?Exim?SendmailThe Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution.CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004)Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version.Don> On 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ..and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed..URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170327/a3c222fa/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed..Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170327/a3c222fa/smim… ------------------------------Message: 6Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 14:26:37 +0800From: Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn>To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" dtantanaka(a)verisign.com>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: 0F48A9B3-C918-4013-ABC6-8EEC8E871FAC(a)teleinfo.cn>Content-Type: text/plain charset=gb2312Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.Sent from my iPad? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ua-discuss(a)icann.org> ???Nice work Andr?! On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote: When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. .and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. Andr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 7Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:42:55 +0000From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: AD943ADE-A33B-41A3-B46B-4D7B4CDDD410(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"I thought TWNIC used OpenFind.Chinese E-mail ? Chiang https://ccnso.icann.org/meetings/copenhagen58/presentation-twnic-chinese-ea…>> On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn> wrote:> > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.> > Sent from my iPad> > ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ua-discuss(a)icann.org> ???> > Nice work Andr?! > > On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" ua-discuss-bounces@icannorg on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ..and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> > > > > Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed..URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/234c1850/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed..Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/234c1850/smim… ------------------------------Message: 8Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:43:17 +0000From: Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"I thought TWNIC used OpenFind.Chinese E-mail ? Chiang https://ccnso.icann.org/meetings/copenhagen58/presentation-twnic-chinese-ea…>> On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan tyl(a)teleinfo.cn mailto:tyl@teleinfo.cn>> wrote:> > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.> > Sent from my iPad> > ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ua-discuss(a)icann.org mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>> ???> > Nice work Andr?! > > On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Andre Schappo" ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ..and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> > > > > Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed..URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/85cce0d8/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed..Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/85cce0d8/smim… ------------------------------Message: 9Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:41:55 +0000From: Andre Schappo A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk>To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: A3A3A2F0-EF65-473B-8D0F-C31E33B132A8(a)lboro.ac.uk>Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"Thanks for that list Don. I will use it in my Digital Identities lecture which happens in ~5 hours time?Andr? SchappoOn 27 Mar 2017, at 19:20, Don Hollander don.hollander@icann.orgmailto:don.hollander@icann.org>> wrote:Andre, et al?Here?s my list of folks that are working on this:EAI Email Providers?Microsoft?Google?Apple?Yandex (Russia)?Coremail (China)?XgenPlus (India)?Throughway (Thailand)?SaudiNic?OpenFind (Taiwan)?Horde (USA)?PostFix (Global)?Afilias?Exim?SendmailThe Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution.CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004)Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version.DonOn 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo A.Schappo@lboro.ac.ukmailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote:When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)Notes:A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year...and onto something differentTomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.Andr? 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revision on EAI update
by deepak March 30, 2017

March 30, 2017

Hello All,This can be detailed structure as Global EAI Status and may be it can go online on uasg.tech Company Product / Service Client or Server Commercial Available EAI MailBox Provider Protocol Supported for EAI EAI Mail Exchange Supported (SMTP ) Company / Product Website Microsoft Outlook 2016 for Windows Client YES N/A IMAP,POP3,SMTP N/A https://support.office.com Google GMail Server YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.gmail.com Apple Iphone Mail client Client YES N/A NO NO https://support.apple.com/mail BharatSync EAI mail for IoS Client YES N/A IMAP,SMTP NO https://itunes.apple.com/ Yandex Yandex (Russia) Server YES NO SMTP,webmail NO https://www.yandex.com/ Coremail Coremail (China) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO http://mail.chinacnd.com/ Data Xgen XgenPlus (India) Server YES YES IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.xgenplus.com/ Throughway Throughway (Thailand ) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO https://www.throughwave.co.th/ Saudi Network Information Centre SaudiNic Server NO YES N/A NO http://www.nic.sa/en/ OpenFind MailCloud Server NO YES SMTP,Webmail NO http://www.openfind.com/english/ Horde, LLC Horde Client YES N/A Webmail NO https://www.horde.org/ PostFix PostFix Server YES N/A SMTP YES http://www.postfix.org/ Spamjadoo Spamjadoo (antispam) Server YES N/A SMTP, WEB YES http://www.spamjadoo.com EXIM Exim Server NO NO SMTP YES http://www.eximin.net/ Sendmail Sendmail Server NO NO SMTP YES Data Xgen DatatMail (Android+IOS) Client YES YES IMAP,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.datamail.in/ BharatSync BharatSync Communicator (Android) Client YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP YES https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bharatsync.communicator Deepak Singhal [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER] Do not Remove: [HID]20170330104931708[-HID]

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Re : Re: revision on EAI update
by deepak March 30, 2017

March 30, 2017

Hi, Thanks for review. I am happy to update EAI table if You can provide the coremail EAI link where I can see EAI mailbox provisioning is available .Deepak Singhal From: "Jiankang Yao" MailId : [67699793]To: deepak ,ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] revision on EAI updateDate: 30 Mar 2017 11:11:58 AM thanks for the detailed structure . some information in this table is not new. for example, Coremail has already supported commerical EAI product . we need to confirm each entry before putting into uasg.tech . Jiankang Yao From: deepak Date: 2017-03-30 13:49 To: ua-discuss Subject: [UA-discuss] revision on EAI update Hello All,This can be detailed structure as Global EAI Status and may be it can go online on uasg.tech Company Product / Service Client or Server Commercial Available EAI MailBox Provider Protocol Supported for EAI EAI Mail Exchange Supported (SMTP ) Company / Product Website Microsoft Outlook 2016 for Windows Client YES N/A IMAP,POP3,SMTP N/A https://support.office.com Google GMail Server YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.gmail.com Apple Iphone Mail client Client YES N/A NO NO https://support.apple.com/mail BharatSync EAI mail for IoS Client YES N/A IMAP,SMTP NO https://itunes.apple.com/ Yandex Yandex (Russia) Server YES NO SMTP,webmail NO https://www.yandex.com/ Coremail Coremail (China) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO http://mail.chinacnd.com/ Data Xgen XgenPlus (India) Server YES YES IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.xgenplus.com/ Throughway Throughway (Thailand ) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO https://www.throughwave.co.th/ Saudi Network Information Centre SaudiNic Server NO YES N/A NO http://www.nic.sa/en/ OpenFind MailCloud Server NO YES SMTP,Webmail NO http://www.openfind.com/english/ Horde, LLC Horde Client YES N/A Webmail NO https://www.horde.org/ PostFix PostFix Server YES N/A SMTP YES http://www.postfix.org/ Spamjadoo Spamjadoo (antispam) Server YES N/A SMTP, WEB YES http://www.spamjadoo.com EXIM Exim Server NO NO SMTP YES http://www.eximin.net/ Sendmail Sendmail Server NO NO SMTP YES Data Xgen DatatMail (Android+IOS) Client YES YES IMAP,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.datamail.in/ BharatSync BharatSync Communicator (Android) Client YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP YES https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bharatsync.communicator Deepak Singhal [XGENFOOTER][-XGENFOOTER] Do not Remove:[HID]20170330104931708[-HID]

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Supporting EAI in HTML specification
by chaals＠yandex-team.ru March 29, 2017

March 29, 2017

Hi, we currently have two open issues on the HTML spec related to EAI: They both deal with the email input type - <input type="email"> which can validate an email address. The current rules for a valdi email address are based on ASCII only, https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/538 - allowing IDN support Our current proposal is to suggest more strongly that values entered or rendered be validated after conversion to punycode, file bugs on browsers since we didn't find any that do this already, and include it in a Proposed Recommendation (we are aiming at about one revision per year) when there are at least two browsers who implement it. https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/845 - support unicode in the "left hand side" - i.e. username Before this gets any traction there would need to be clear evidence that there is adoption in enough deployed email infrastructure to justify browsers sending out utf-8 user names with reasonable confidence that they will work. I welcome input from this group on both those issues - and on making the case with developers, etc, to provide support for both of these… cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathie Nevile - standards - Yandex chaals(a)yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com

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EAI Service Providers - My Update
by deepak March 28, 2017

March 28, 2017

Don and AndreList below need some MAJOR corrections for clear understanding.EAI Email Providers - would probably mean A company / product which can offer EAI mailbox on IDN domain. Not simply receiving or sending email to EAI. &bullMicrosoft - (you mean office365, its still not EAI provider, supports EAI) &bullGoogle - ( you mean gmail, and its still not EAI provider, supports EAI) &bullApple - ( apple do not offer EAI and iphone do not support configuration of EAI account, EAI Mail app on IOS does ) &bullYandex (Russia) - ( do not offer EAI ) &bullCoremail (China) - ( looks like you are testing it, however not yet available on their website commercially for public) &bullXgenPlus (India) - ( commercially available) &bullThroughway (Thailand) ( not aware, however their presentation shows they are using gmail as client to send and receive) &bullSaudiNic (Not aware) &bullOpenFind (Taiwan) - (on thier website https://www.mailcloud.com.tw/, they are not offering EAI (google search)) &bullHorde (USA) (https://www.horde.org/apps/webmail - its only webmail, need EAI server at backend like XGENPLUS) &bullPostFix (Global) - (PostFix is only MTA, neither has IMAP/POP/Webmail, so cant offer EAI without other supporting client) &bullAfilias ( dont know status - public information not available ) &bullExim ( just like postfix) &bullSendmail (just like postfix) So, EAI Service Providers are only few as of now i.e XgenPlus - Fully available Globally (not only in India) in public domain (free and paid), CoreMail and Throughway seems to be available in test mode. May be we create two lists,, 1) EAI Service Provider and 2) Products / Services Supporting EAIAlso include Android Phone Mail client and Microsoft Outlook 2016, which can allow configuration of EAI, if supported by EAI ready imap / smtp server. Please correct me if I am missing something.Deepak From: ua-discuss-request(a)icann.org MailId : [67637691]To: ua-discuss@icannorgSubject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21Date: 28 Mar 2017 05:30:21 PM Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to ua-discuss(a)icann.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussor, via email, send a message with subject or body `help` to ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at ua-discuss-owner(a)icann.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest..."Today`s Topics: 1. Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo) 2. test (Andre Schappo) 3. UASG Events coming up... (Don Hollander) 4. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Tan Tanaka, Dennis) 5. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 6. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Yaling Tan) 7. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 8. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 9. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:54:12 +0000From: Andre Schappo To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)Notes:A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.....and onto something differentTomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.Andr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 2Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:58:19 +0000From: Andre Schappo To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: [UA-discuss] testMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"test because it appears email is not being distributed to this listAndr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 3Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:43:25 +0000From: Don Hollander To: ua-discuss Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG Events coming up...Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"There are several UA events coming up?In just a few hours at the WHD.Global (World Hosting Days) conference in Germany, there will be a Night Talk about Universal Acceptance.On April 11 &amp 12 in Redmond Washington there is a Face-to-Face meeting of the UASG Coordination group. (Program attached). These are public meetings and we?ll make them available through the Adobe Connect room, but if you?re in the neighbourhood please feel welcome to come and participate. Do please let me know in advance if you can for logistics.On April 11 at 6:00PM at the Seattle Marriott in Redmond we?ll be holding a reception and launch of the White Paper on Universal Acceptance. Again, all are welcome but do please let me know if you?ll be attending for catering purposes.On April 12 &amp 13 (starting at 13:00 on the 12th) there will be an EAI workshop. (Program attached). Again, this is a public event and we?ll make it available through the Adobe Connect room. But if you are planning on attending in person, please let me know for logistical purposes. 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On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" wrote: When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. ...and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. Andr? Schappo ------------------------------Message: 5Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:20:40 +0000From: Don Hollander To: Andre Schappo Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"Andre, et al?Here?s my list of folks that are working on this:EAI Email Providers?Microsoft ?Google ?Apple ?Yandex (Russia) ?Coremail (China) ?XgenPlus (India) ?Throughway (Thailand) ?SaudiNic ?OpenFind (Taiwan) ?Horde (USA) ?PostFix (Global)?Afilias?Exim?SendmailThe Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution.CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004)Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version.Don> On 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ...and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170327/a3c222fa/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170327/a3c222fa/smim… ------------------------------Message: 6Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 14:26:37 +0800From: Yaling Tan To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset=gb2312Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.Sent from my iPad? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ???Nice work Andr?! On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" wrote: When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. ...and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. Andr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 7Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:42:55 +0000From: Don Hollander To: Yaling Tan Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"I thought TWNIC used OpenFind.Chinese E-mail ? Chiang > On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan wrote:> > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.> > Sent from my iPad> > ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ???> > Nice work Andr?! > > On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ...and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> > > > > Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/234c1850/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/234c1850/smim… ------------------------------Message: 8Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:43:17 +0000From: Don Hollander To: Yaling Tan Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"I thought TWNIC used OpenFind.Chinese E-mail ? Chiang > On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan > wrote:> > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.> > Sent from my iPad> > ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss > ???> > Nice work Andr?! > > On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk > wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ..and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> > > > > Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/85cce0d8/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/85cce0d8/smim… ------------------------------Message: 9Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:41:55 +0000From: Andre Schappo To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"Thanks for that list Don. I will use it in my Digital Identities lecture which happens in ~5 hours time?Andr? SchappoOn 27 Mar 2017, at 19:20, Don Hollander > wrote:Andre, et al?Here?s my list of folks that are working on this:EAI Email Providers?Microsoft?Google?Apple?Yandex (Russia)?Coremail (China)?XgenPlus (India)?Throughway (Thailand)?SaudiNic?OpenFind (Taiwan)?Horde (USA)?PostFix (Global)?Afilias?Exim?SendmailThe Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution.CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004)Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version.DonOn 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo > wrote:When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)Notes:A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.....and onto something differentTomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.Andr? SchappoDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander??????@??.??http://twitter.com/andreschappohttp://schappo.blogspot.co.ukhttp://weibo.com/andreschappo-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/532935ff/atta… ------------------------------_______________________________________________UA-discuss mailing listUA-discuss@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussEnd of UA-discuss Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21******************************************.Do not Remove:[HID]2017032817302058[-HID] [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER]

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Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - Summary
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis March 28, 2017

March 28, 2017

Nice work André! On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote: When I learned of TWNIC's EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ① DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ② TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ③ Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ④ CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ⑤ MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. ...and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. André Schappo

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Current State of Play - Summary
by Andre Schappo March 28, 2017

March 28, 2017

When I learned of TWNIC's EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ① DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ② TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ③ Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ④ CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ⑤ MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. ...and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. André Schappo

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