February 2017 - UA-discuss

Govt of India - .भारत on websites
by Dr. AJAY D A T A Feb. 7, 2017

Feb. 7, 2017

Pleased to share that Ministry of Information Technology &amp Electronics - Govt. of India called for a meeting to discuss about the acceptance of .भारत domain on websites and the meeting was held on 6th Feb and attended our Team. Govt has ensured the action by writing letters to stake holders and departments to make their website UA ready for atleast .भारत to start with so that wherever a website name or email address is required, a input containing .भारत should be accepted. Government will take appropriate measures to even write to Pvt industry leaders.We have even guided them to UA website and look for desired guidelines and help and incase they need, we shall support them. Big move by Indian Government. Thank you MIETY for taking this initiative. Dr. Ajay DATA | Founder &amp CEO Get email id like अजय(a)xn--c2bd1gb.xn--h2brj9c in your own language,visit www.xgenplus.com Do not Remove: [HID]20170207154717230[-HID]

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Re: [UA-discuss] UA101 en Español
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

Some edits enclosed. On 2/2/17, 2:10 PM, "Don Hollander" <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of don.hollander(a)icann.org> wrote: Courtesy of our good friend Tony Harris… We now have something to use in the Spanish speaking community. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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UA101 en Español
by Don Hollander Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

Courtesy of our good friend Tony Harris… We now have something to use in the Spanish speaking community. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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UA Featured on The DNA Blog - Please Retweet
by Ludwig, Anna Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

Hi Everyone, The DNA has posted a guest blog by Don Hollander about Universal Acceptance. This is part of our larger initiative on engaging associations about this important issue. Please feel free to retweet, share, like, etc.: (https://twitter.com/DNAssoc/status/827168895878447104) Best, Anna [cid:image001.png@01D27D3A.1EE9F530] Anna Ludwig Vice President Edelman for UASG Direct 206 268 2055 Mobile 310 228 7788 anna.ludwig(a)edelman.com<mailto:anna.ludwig@edelman.com>

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Re: [UA-discuss] [ajay.uasg@data.in] John Doe in.... Different languages
by ajay＠data.in Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

Hello Don May be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.भारत Like for Russia you can use почта(a)xn--e1afmkfd.pyc in English mail(a)example.rus Thanks On 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AM Don Hollander 'don.hollander(a)icann.org' wrote: We’re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses. In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com (mailto:john.doe@example.com). In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com (mailto:john.bull@example.com). And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com (mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com) I’m looking for similar, ‘everyman’ names in other places, particularly those that don’t use only ascii. So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know. Don

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UASG 007 - Update
by Don Hollander Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

Just a heads up that we’ve published an update on UASG 007 - Introduction to Universal Acceptance. Over the past six months we’ve collected just a couple of opportunities for correct and enhancements. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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Re: [UA-discuss] UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1
by Harish Chowdhary Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

Dear All,Kind reference is invited for the subject cited above.  This is basically regarding the publication of Guest Post on Deployment Issues of Internationalized e-mails on APNIC Blog2.         Blog is published on 23rd January 2017 by APNIC and it is in continuation to the Bar-BoF undersigned has conducted on the above cited issues in IETF 97, Seoul, South Korea as an ISOC fellow.3.         APNIC invited undersigned to write this blog to describe the experience of BAR-BoF and BoF sessions conducted by undersigned at IETF 97.  (BoF means Birds of a Feather Session)4.         This document is intended to provide a basic idea to discuss relevant issues and to build a global community to solve the issues of deployment of internationalized e-mails and Universal Acceptance. 5.            Kindly use given link to read the blog (Please copy paste the link  directly in the browser ; if given link doesn't work correctly)                    https://blog.apnic.net/2017/01/23/deployment-issues-internationalized-email/6.        You may utilize this link for cross posting and awareness purposes.7.        Please provide your valuable feedback on it.Thanks,Harish ChowdharyThanks,Harish Chowdhary From: ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgSent: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 17:30:09 GMT+0530To: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to   ua-discuss(a)icann.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit   https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to   ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at   ua-discuss-owner(a)icann.orgWhen replying , please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest..."Today's Topics:  1. John Doe in....  Different languages (Don Hollander)  2. Re: John Doe in....  Different languages (Jay Daley)  3. ODG:  John Doe in....  Different languages (Dusan)  4. Re: John Doe in.... Different languages (Asmus Freytag)  5. Re: John Doe in....  Different languages (Jim Hague)  6. Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in.... Different languages     (ajay(a)data.in)  7. Re: [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in.... Different     languages (Don Hollander)  8. UASG 007 - Update (Don Hollander)  9. Re: [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in.... Different     languages (philippe.fouquart@orange.com)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:23:43 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.ho llander(a)icann.org>To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] John Doe in....  Different languagesMessage-ID: <806B7543-6E31-4A54-A31E-46672B726473(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com.? In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com.? And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com??I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.Don-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/caec19ae/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: applic ation/pkcs7-signatureSize: 4540 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/caec19ae/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 12:26:08 +1300From: Jay Daley <jay(a)nzrs.net.nz>To: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in....  Different languagesMessage-ID: <C24505AC-C529-407B-8E95-4959531339E2(a)nzrs.net.nz>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8Hi DonThere?s a wikipedia page on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_placeholder_names_by_languagebestJay&… On 2/02/2017, at 12:23 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org> wrote:>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>  > In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com.  In the UK it might be somethin g like john.bull(a)example.com.  And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com  >  > I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>  > So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>  > Don>  >  --Jay DaleyChief ExecutiveNZRS Ltddesk: +64 4 931 6977mobile: +64 21 678840linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jaydaley------------------------------Message: 3Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:38:26 +0100From: Dusan <dusan(a)dukes.in.rs>To: Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>, Don   Hollander   <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] ODG:  John Doe in....  Different languagesMessage-ID: <e13n8tarj9ijac6nci5dfcpa.1485991608329(a)email.android.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"petar.petrovi?(a)primer.comSerbian Latin?????.????????(a)??????.???Serbian CyrillicCheersDu?an---- Don Hollande r je napisao/la ---->>>We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>>?>>In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com.? In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com.? And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com??>>?>>I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly th ose that don?t use only ascii.>>?>>So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>>?>>Don>>?>>?>-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/8d195539/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 4Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:59:34 -0800From: Asmus Freytag <asmusf(a)ix.netcom.com>To: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <4a3b69d9-91d1-bc51-0b9f-f8f3a6d02109(a)ix.netcom.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"On 2/1/2017 3:23 PM, Don Hollander wrote:>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some> generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>> In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com> <mailto:john.doe@example.com>. In the UK it might be something lik e> john.bull(a)example.com <mailto:john.bull@example.com>. And in NZ it> would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com <mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com>>> I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places,> particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>> So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>> Don>Can't help you there; in German, the last name for examples is often"Mustermann" (where "Muster" is patter/example). Not sure whether he orshe has a preferred first name.None of them have non-ASCII characters.A./-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/7b69f7e8/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 5Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:32:42 +0000From: Jim Hague <jim(a)sinodun.com>To: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in....  Different languagesMessage-ID: <1734290.nA46 10Cqb4@hagrid>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"On Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:23:43 GMT Don Hollander wrote:> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but> culturally local, examples of email addresses.>> In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com.  In the UK it> might be something like john.bull(a)example.com.  And in NZ it would be> Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com  FWIW, here in the UK john.bull(a)example.com would get you some very strangelooks(*). We're most probably with the Kiwis with Joe (or Fred Bloggs), thoughboth sound somewhat antiquated and I don't think are commonly used. In fact,thinking about it I personally would go so far as to say that these days wedon't really have any standard placeholder names, generally preferring to makeup names that sound 'normal' - see, for example, https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/81/~/clear-addr… w-to-address-your-mail.(Of course, having said that I promptly ran across advice on gov.uk designguidelines https://designpatterns.hackpad.com/Knowledge-based-authentication-Nc91dMM61… which uses 'Joe Bloggs').(*) For those who don't know the name, 'John Bull' is a 18th century archetypekind of similar to Uncle Sam but without any connotation of links togovernment. I rather doubt whether my kids (22 & 19) have heard the name.--Jim Haguejim(a)sinodun.com                      Never trust a computer you can't lift.Sinodun Internet Technologies Ltd.   +44 7941 697732------------------------------Message: 6Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 06:58:36 +0530From: ajay(a)data.inTo: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: "=?utf-8?Q?ua-discuss=40icann.org?=" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in....   Different languagesMessage-ID: <b4009 653-ce23-4918-ad53-f3fe96a4584c@Nidhies-iPhone>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Hello DonMay be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????Like for Russia you can use ?????(a)??????.pyc in English mail(a)example.rusThanksOn 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AMDon Hollander 'don.hollander(a)icann.org' wrote:We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com (mailto:john.doe@example.com). In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com (mailto:john.bull@example.com). And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com (mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com)I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.Don-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann .org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/4a1de316/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 7Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 05:32:54 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: "ajay(a)data.in" <ajay(a)data.in>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe   in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <3D481544-1159-4983-AF8A-50C3704DEFF1(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Thanks for this.We?re looking to build a bit of narrative to show how important EAI is to people (in this case imaginary) who can?t currently use email the way that they might want to because their names use non-ascii characters.Don> On 2/02/2017, at 2:28 PM, ajay(a)data.in wrote:>> Hello Don>> May be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????>> Like for Russia you can use ?????@??????. pyc <mailto:%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%82%D0%B0@xn--e1afmkfd.pyc> in English mail(a)example.rus <mailto:mail@example.rus>>> Thanks>> On 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AM> Don Hollander 'don.hollander(a)icann.org <mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>' wrote:>>>>>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>>  >> In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com <mailto:john.doe@example.com>.  In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com <mailto:john.bull@example.com>.  And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com <mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com>  >>  >> I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>>  >> So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>>  >> DonDon HollanderUniversal Ac ceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/ab127a25/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/ab127a25/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 8Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:57:14 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG 007 - UpdateMessage-ID: <C1A28372-1C36-4D97-B2E1-9E8CDD42051A(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Just a heads up that we?ve published an update on UASG 007 - Introduction to Universal Acceptance.Over the past six months we?ve collected just a couple of opportunities for correct and enhancem ents.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/240c5aa9/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 9Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:21:20 +0000From: <philippe.fouquart(a)orange.com>To: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe   in.... Different languagesMessage-ID:   <6537_1486034481_58931631_6537_8023_1_B5939C6860701C49AA39C5DA5189448B243EF98E@OPEXCLILMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Don,In French, John Doe would probably be ?Pierre Dupond? in Europe (which oddly enough is not a v ery common name statistically) but it may not fit the bill EAI-wise...For EAI examples, my suggestion would be something like No?l.Andr?(a)r?gion.fr or H?l?ne.Gu?rin(a)r?gion.frThe use of accentuated surnames has been patchy since the advent of typewriters? but those who have one sometimes resent it, these two are the most common which can be accentuated: http://www.filae.com/nom-de-famille/classement-general-1 and other sources.Hope this helps,Philippe FouquartOrange Labs Networks+33 (0) 1 57 39 58 13From: ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Don HollanderSent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 6:33 AMTo: ajay(a)data.inCc: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in.... Different languagesThanks for this.We?re looking to build a bit of narrative to show how important EAI is to people (in this case imaginary) who can?t currently use email the way that they might want to because their names use non-ascii chara cters.DonOn 2/02/2017, at 2:28 PM, ajay@data.in<mailto:ajay@data.in> wrote:Hello DonMay be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????Like for Russia you can use ?????@??????.pyc<mailto:%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%82%D0%B0@xn--e1afmkfd.pyc> in English mail@example.rus<mailto:mail@example.rus>ThanksOn 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AMDon Hollander 'don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>' wrote:We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com<mailto:john.doe@example.com>.  In the UK it might be something like john.bull@example.com<mailto:john.bull@example.com>.  And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs@example.com<mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com>I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have a ny suggestions, please do let me know.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent doncpas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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Re: [UA-discuss] UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1
by Harish Chowdhary Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

Hi,I have the following e-mail ids in HINDI (Devanagri Script)हरीश(a)xn--11b2aty0b2c6e.xn--h2brj9c         in english (harish(a)parikshan.bahart)  हरीश(a)xn--l2bneint0cwa7h.xn--h2brj9c                         (harish(a)universal.baharat)Thanks,Harish Chowdhary From: ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgSent: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 17:30:09 GMT+0530To: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to   ua-discuss(a)icann.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit   https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to   ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at   ua-discuss-owner(a)icann.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan &quot ;Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest..."Today's Topics:  1. John Doe in....  Different languages (Don Hollander)  2. Re: John Doe in....  Different languages (Jay Daley)  3. ODG:  John Doe in....  Different languages (Dusan)  4. Re: John Doe in.... Different languages (Asmus Freytag)  5. Re: John Doe in....  Different languages (Jim Hague)  6. Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in.... Different languages     (ajay(a)data.in)  7. Re: [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in.... Different     languages (Don Hollander)  8. UASG 007 - Update (Don Hollander)  9. Re: [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in.... Different     languages (philippe.fouquart@orange.com)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:23:43 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua -discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] John Doe in....  Different languagesMessage-ID: <806B7543-6E31-4A54-A31E-46672B726473(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com.? In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com.? And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com??I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.Don-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/caec19ae/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 4540 bytesDesc: not availableURL: &lt ;http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/caec19ae/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 12:26:08 +1300From: Jay Daley <jay(a)nzrs.net.nz>To: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in....  Different languagesMessage-ID: <C24505AC-C529-407B-8E95-4959531339E2(a)nzrs.net.nz>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8Hi DonThere?s a wikipedia page on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_placeholder_names_by_languagebestJay&… On 2/02/2017, at 12:23 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org> wrote:>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>  > In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com.  In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com.  And in NZ it would be Joe.Bl oggs(a)example.com  >  > I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>  > So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>  > Don>  >  --Jay DaleyChief ExecutiveNZRS Ltddesk: +64 4 931 6977mobile: +64 21 678840linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jaydaley------------------------------Message: 3Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:38:26 +0100From: Dusan <dusan(a)dukes.in.rs>To: Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>, Don   Hollander   <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] ODG:  John Doe in....  Different languagesMessage-ID: <e13n8tarj9ijac6nci5dfcpa.1485991608329(a)email.android.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"petar.petrovi?(a)primer.comSerbian Latin?????.????????(a)??????.???Serbian CyrillicCheersDu?an---- Don Hollander je napisao/la ---->>>We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>>?>>In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com.? In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com.? And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com??>>?>>I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>>?>>So, if you have a ny suggestions, please do let me know.>>?>>Don>>?>>?>-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/8d195539/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 4Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:59:34 -0800From: Asmus Freytag <asmusf(a)ix.netcom.com>To: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <4a3b69d9-91d1-bc51-0b9f-f8f3a6d02109(a)ix.netcom.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"On 2/1/2017 3:23 PM, Don Hollander wrote:>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some> generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>> In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com> <mailto:john.doe@example.com>. In the UK it might be something like> john.bull(a)example.com <mailto:john.bull@example.com> . And in NZ it> would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com <mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com>>> I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places,> particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>> So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>> Don>Can't help you there; in German, the last name for examples is often"Mustermann" (where "Muster" is patter/example). Not sure whether he orshe has a preferred first name.None of them have non-ASCII characters.A./-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/7b69f7e8/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 5Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:32:42 +0000From: Jim Hague <jim(a)sinodun.com>To: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in....  Different languagesMessage-ID: <1734290.nA4610Cqb4@hagrid>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8&q uot;On Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:23:43 GMT Don Hollander wrote:> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but> culturally local, examples of email addresses.>> In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com.  In the UK it> might be something like john.bull(a)example.com.  And in NZ it would be> Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com  FWIW, here in the UK john.bull(a)example.com would get you some very strangelooks(*). We're most probably with the Kiwis with Joe (or Fred Bloggs), thoughboth sound somewhat antiquated and I don't think are commonly used. In fact,thinking about it I personally would go so far as to say that these days wedon't really have any standard placeholder names, generally preferring to makeup names that sound 'normal' - see, for example, https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/81/~/clear-addr… course, having said that I promptly r an across advice on gov.uk designguidelines https://designpatterns.hackpad.com/Knowledge-based-authentication-Nc91dMM61… which uses 'Joe Bloggs').(*) For those who don't know the name, 'John Bull' is a 18th century archetypekind of similar to Uncle Sam but without any connotation of links togovernment. I rather doubt whether my kids (22 & 19) have heard the name.--Jim Haguejim(a)sinodun.com                      Never trust a computer you can't lift.Sinodun Internet Technologies Ltd.   +44 7941 697732------------------------------Message: 6Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 06:58:36 +0530From: ajay(a)data.inTo: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: "=?utf-8?Q?ua-discuss=40icann.org?=" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in....   Different languagesMessage-ID: <b4009653-ce23-4918-ad53-f3fe96a4584c@Nidhies-iPhone>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Hello DonMay be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????Like for Russia you can use ?????(a)??????.pyc in English mail(a)example.rusThanksOn 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AMDon Hollander 'don.hollander(a)icann.org' wrote:We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com (mailto:john.doe@example.com). In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com (mailto:john.bull@example.com). And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com (mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com)I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.Don-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/4a1de316/attachme nt-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 7Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 05:32:54 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: "ajay(a)data.in" <ajay(a)data.in>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe   in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <3D481544-1159-4983-AF8A-50C3704DEFF1(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Thanks for this.We?re looking to build a bit of narrative to show how important EAI is to people (in this case imaginary) who can?t currently use email the way that they might want to because their names use non-ascii characters.Don> On 2/02/2017, at 2:28 PM, ajay(a)data.in wrote:>> Hello Don>> May be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????>> Like for Russia you can use ?????(a)??????.pyc <mailto:%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%82%D0%B0@xn--e1afmkfd.pyc&g t; in English mail(a)example.rus <mailto:mail@example.rus>>> Thanks>> On 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AM> Don Hollander 'don.hollander(a)icann.org <mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>' wrote:>>>>>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>>  >> In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com <mailto:john.doe@example.com>.  In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com <mailto:john.bull@example.com>.  And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com <mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com>  >>  >> I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>>  >> So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>>  >> DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next p art --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/ab127a25/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/ab127a25/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 8Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:57:14 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG 007 - UpdateMessage-ID: <C1A28372-1C36-4D97-B2E1-9E8CDD42051A(a)icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Just a heads up that we?ve published an update on UASG 007 - Introduction to Universal Acceptance.Over the past six months we?ve collected just a couple of opportunities for correct and enhancements.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: d on_hollander-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/240c5aa9/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 9Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:21:20 +0000From: <philippe.fouquart(a)orange.com>To: Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe   in.... Different languagesMessage-ID:   <6537_1486034481_58931631_6537_8023_1_B5939C6860701C49AA39C5DA5189448B243EF98E@OPEXCLILMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>   Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Don,In French, John Doe would probably be ?Pierre Dupond? in Europe (which oddly enough is not a very common name statistically) but it may not fit the bill EAI-w ise...For EAI examples, my suggestion would be something like No?l.Andr?(a)r?gion.fr or H?l?ne.Gu?rin(a)r?gion.frThe use of accentuated surnames has been patchy since the advent of typewriters? but those who have one sometimes resent it, these two are the most common which can be accentuated: http://www.filae.com/nom-de-famille/classement-general-1 and other sources.Hope this helps,Philippe FouquartOrange Labs Networks+33 (0) 1 57 39 58 13From: ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Don HollanderSent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 6:33 AMTo: ajay(a)data.inCc: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg(a)data.in] John Doe in.... Different languagesThanks for this.We?re looking to build a bit of narrative to show how important EAI is to people (in this case imaginary) who can?t currently use email the way that they might want to because their names use non-ascii characters.DonOn 2/02/2017, at 2:28 PM, ajay@data.in<mailto:ajay@d ata.in> wrote:Hello DonMay be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????Like for Russia you can use ?????@??????.pyc<mailto:%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%82%D0%B0@xn--e1afmkfd.pyc> in English mail@example.rus<mailto:mail@example.rus>ThanksOn 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AMDon Hollander 'don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>' wrote:We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com<mailto:john.doe@example.com>.  In the UK it might be something like john.bull@example.com<mailto:john.bull@example.com>.  And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs@example.com<mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com>I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent doncpas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. 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John Doe in.... Different languages
by Don Hollander Feb. 2, 2017

Feb. 2, 2017

We’re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses. In the US it might be something like john.doe(a)example.com. In the UK it might be something like john.bull(a)example.com. And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs(a)example.com I’m looking for similar, ‘everyman’ names in other places, particularly those that don’t use only ascii. So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know. Don

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