Re: [UA-discuss] UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1
Hi,I have the following e-mail ids in HINDI (Devanagri Script)हरीश@परीक्षण.भारत in english (harish@parikshan.bahart) हरीश@यूनिवर्सल.भारत (harish@universal.baharat)Thanks,Harish Chowdhary From: ua-discuss-request@icann.orgSent: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 17:30:09 GMT+0530To: ua-discuss@icann.orgSubject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to ua-discuss@icann.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ua-discuss-request@icann.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at ua-discuss-owner@icann.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan " ;Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest..."Today's Topics: 1. John Doe in.... Different languages (Don Hollander) 2. Re: John Doe in.... Different languages (Jay Daley) 3. ODG: John Doe in.... Different languages (Dusan) 4. Re: John Doe in.... Different languages (Asmus Freytag) 5. Re: John Doe in.... Different languages (Jim Hague) 6. Re: [ajay.uasg@data.in] John Doe in.... Different languages (ajay@data.in) 7. Re: [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg@data.in] John Doe in.... Different languages (Don Hollander) 8. UASG 007 - Update (Don Hollander) 9. Re: [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg@data.in] John Doe in.... Different languages (philippe.fouquart@orange.com)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 23:23:43 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>To: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua -discuss@icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <806B7543-6E31-4A54-A31E-46672B726473@icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com.? In the UK it might be something like john.bull@example.com.? And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs@example.com??I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.Don-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/caec19ae/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 4540 bytesDesc: not availableURL: < ;http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/caec19ae/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 12:26:08 +1300From: Jay Daley <jay@nzrs.net.nz>To: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <C24505AC-C529-407B-8E95-4959531339E2@nzrs.net.nz>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8Hi DonThere?s a wikipedia page on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_placeholder_names_by_languagebestJay&g...; On 2/02/2017, at 12:23 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> wrote:>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.> > In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com. In the UK it might be something like john.bull@example.com. And in NZ it would be Joe.Bl oggs@example.com > > I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.> > So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.> > Don> > --Jay DaleyChief ExecutiveNZRS Ltddesk: +64 4 931 6977mobile: +64 21 678840linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jaydaley------------------------------Message: 3Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:38:26 +0100From: Dusan <dusan@dukes.in.rs>To: Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org>, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] ODG: John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <e13n8tarj9ijac6nci5dfcpa.1485991608329@email.android.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"petar.petrovi?@primer.comSerbian Latin?????.????????@??????.???Serbian CyrillicCheersDu?an---- Don Hollander je napisao/la ----><!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-fac e {font-family:Arial; panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"; panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} @font-face {font-family:Calibri; panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:Calibri; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {mso-style-priority:99; color:#0563C1; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {mso-style-priority:99; color:#954F72; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:Calibri; &nbs p;color:windowtext;} span.msoIns {mso-style-type:export-only; mso-style-name:""; text-decoration:underline; color:teal;} .MsoChpDefault {mso-style-type:export-only; font-family:Calibri; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} @page WordSection1 {size:595.0pt 842.0pt; margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;} div.WordSection1 {page:WordSection1;} -->>>We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>>?>>In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com.? In the UK it might be something like john.bull@example.com.? And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs@example.com??>>?>>I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>>?>>So, if you have a ny suggestions, please do let me know.>>?>>Don>>?>>?>-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/8d195539/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 4Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:59:34 -0800From: Asmus Freytag <asmusf@ix.netcom.com>To: ua-discuss@icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <4a3b69d9-91d1-bc51-0b9f-f8f3a6d02109@ix.netcom.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"On 2/1/2017 3:23 PM, Don Hollander wrote:>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some> generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>> In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com> <mailto:john.doe@example.com>. In the UK it might be something like> john.bull@example.com <mailto:john.bull@example.com> . And in NZ it> would be Joe.Bloggs@example.com <mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com>>> I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places,> particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>> So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>> Don>Can't help you there; in German, the last name for examples is often"Mustermann" (where "Muster" is patter/example). Not sure whether he orshe has a preferred first name.None of them have non-ASCII characters.A./-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170201/7b69f7e8/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 5Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:32:42 +0000From: Jim Hague <jim@sinodun.com>To: ua-discuss@icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <1734290.nA4610Cqb4@hagrid>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8&q uot;On Wednesday, 1 February 2017 23:23:43 GMT Don Hollander wrote:> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but> culturally local, examples of email addresses.>> In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com. In the UK it> might be something like john.bull@example.com. And in NZ it would be> Joe.Bloggs@example.com FWIW, here in the UK john.bull@example.com would get you some very strangelooks(*). We're most probably with the Kiwis with Joe (or Fred Bloggs), thoughboth sound somewhat antiquated and I don't think are commonly used. In fact,thinking about it I personally would go so far as to say that these days wedon't really have any standard placeholder names, generally preferring to makeup names that sound 'normal' - see, for example, https://personal.help.royalmail.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/81/~/clear-addre... course, having said that I promptly r an across advice on gov.uk designguidelines https://designpatterns.hackpad.com/Knowledge-based-authentication-Nc91dMM61B... which uses 'Joe Bloggs').(*) For those who don't know the name, 'John Bull' is a 18th century archetypekind of similar to Uncle Sam but without any connotation of links togovernment. I rather doubt whether my kids (22 & 19) have heard the name.--Jim Haguejim@sinodun.com Never trust a computer you can't lift.Sinodun Internet Technologies Ltd. +44 7941 697732------------------------------Message: 6Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 06:58:36 +0530From: ajay@data.inTo: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>Cc: "=?utf-8?Q?ua-discuss=40icann.org?=" <ua-discuss@icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [ajay.uasg@data.in] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <b4009653-ce23-4918-ad53-f3fe96a4584c@Nidhies-iPhone>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Hello DonMay be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????Like for Russia you can use ?????@??????.pyc in English mail@example.rusThanksOn 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AMDon Hollander 'don.hollander@icann.org' wrote:We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com (mailto:john.doe@example.com). In the UK it might be something like john.bull@example.com (mailto:john.bull@example.com). And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs@example.com (mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com)I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.Don-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/4a1de316/attac... nt-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 7Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 05:32:54 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>To: "ajay@data.in" <ajay@data.in>Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg@data.in] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <3D481544-1159-4983-AF8A-50C3704DEFF1@icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Thanks for this.We?re looking to build a bit of narrative to show how important EAI is to people (in this case imaginary) who can?t currently use email the way that they might want to because their names use non-ascii characters.Don> On 2/02/2017, at 2:28 PM, ajay@data.in wrote:>> Hello Don>> May be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????>> Like for Russia you can use ?????@??????.pyc <mailto:%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%82%D0%B0@xn--e1afmkfd.pyc&g t; in English mail@example.rus <mailto:mail@example.rus>>> Thanks>> On 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AM> Don Hollander 'don.hollander@icann.org <mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>' wrote:>>>>>> We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.>> >> In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com <mailto:john.doe@example.com>. In the UK it might be something like john.bull@example.com <mailto:john.bull@example.com>. And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs@example.com <mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com> >> >> I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.>> >> So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.>> >> DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next p art --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/ab127a25/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/ab127a25/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 8Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:57:14 +0000From: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org>Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG 007 - UpdateMessage-ID: <C1A28372-1C36-4D97-B2E1-9E8CDD42051A@icann.org>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Just a heads up that we?ve published an update on UASG 007 - Introduction to Universal Acceptance.Over the past six months we?ve collected just a couple of opportunities for correct and enhancements.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: d on_hollander-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170202/240c5aa9/smime-0001.p7s>------------------------------Message: 9Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 11:21:20 +0000From: <philippe.fouquart@orange.com>To: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg@data.in] John Doe in.... Different languagesMessage-ID: <6537_1486034481_58931631_6537_8023_1_B5939C6860701C49AA39C5DA5189448B243EF98E@OPEXCLILMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Don,In French, John Doe would probably be ?Pierre Dupond? in Europe (which oddly enough is not a very common name statistically) but it may not fit the bill EAI-w ise...For EAI examples, my suggestion would be something like No?l.Andr?@r?gion.fr or H?l?ne.Gu?rin@r?gion.frThe use of accentuated surnames has been patchy since the advent of typewriters? but those who have one sometimes resent it, these two are the most common which can be accentuated: http://www.filae.com/nom-de-famille/classement-general-1 and other sources.Hope this helps,Philippe FouquartOrange Labs Networks+33 (0) 1 57 39 58 13From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Don HollanderSent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 6:33 AMTo: ajay@data.inCc: ua-discuss@icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] Re: [ajay.uasg@data.in] John Doe in.... Different languagesThanks for this.We?re looking to build a bit of narrative to show how important EAI is to people (in this case imaginary) who can?t currently use email the way that they might want to because their names use non-ascii characters.DonOn 2/02/2017, at 2:28 PM, ajay@data.in<mailto:ajay@d ata.in> wrote:Hello DonMay be we can use SUPPORT@ or MAIL@ instead of name along with country specific example.????Like for Russia you can use ?????@??????.pyc<mailto:%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%87%D1%82%D0%B0@xn--e1afmkfd.pyc> in English mail@example.rus<mailto:mail@example.rus>ThanksOn 02-Feb-2017, 4:53:43 AMDon Hollander 'don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>' wrote:We?re building some documentation around EAI and creating some generic, but culturally local, examples of email addresses.In the US it might be something like john.doe@example.com<mailto:john.doe@example.com>. In the UK it might be something like john.bull@example.com<mailto:john.bull@example.com>. And in NZ it would be Joe.Bloggs@example.com<mailto:Joe.Bloggs@example.com>I?m looking for similar, ?everyman? names in other places, particularly those that don?t use only ascii.So, if you have any suggestions, please do let me know.DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent doncpas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signalera l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration,Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. 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