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Re: [UA-discuss] Draft Notes - UA at ICANN61 2018-03-22
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis March 30, 2018

March 30, 2018

Hi Don, Here is a preliminary draft of the one-pager on LGR and IDN Variants I offered to write. You can provide comments directly into the document. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EkOIxO6gHGzMWieOrS1BBENzbmae1FEjWMRccSF… -Dennis From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org> Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 4:26 PM To: "UA-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [UA-discuss] Draft Notes - UA at ICANN61 2018-03-22 Please find attached draft notes and actions from the meetings in San Juan earlier this month. Corrections would be welcome by the beginning of next week. Thank you. Don

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Sinhala සිංහල
by Andre Schappo March 29, 2018

March 29, 2018

I was looking at the Alexa stats for uasg.tech<http://uasg.tech> and noticed the link biz.adaderana.lk/ශ්‍රී-ලාංකීය-ජන-ප්‍රජාව-ද<http://biz.adaderana.lk/%E0%B7%81%E0%B7%8A%E2%80%8D%E0%B6%BB%E0%B7%93-%E0%B…> The article is in Sinhala සිංහල and in the last paragraph is uasg.tech<http://uasg.tech>. I think it looks totally cool😀 André Schappo

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Draft Notes - UA at ICANN61 2018-03-22
by Don Hollander March 27, 2018

March 27, 2018

Please find attached draft notes and actions from the meetings in San Juan earlier this month. Corrections would be welcome by the beginning of next week. Thank you. Don

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UASG Tweeting Now – please share
by Audrey Fery-Forgues March 27, 2018

March 27, 2018

Hello All, Please check out UASGTech’s most recent posts on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UASGTech/status/976903705709563904 and https://twitter.com/UASGTech/status/978428163213598720 Please be sure to follow the @UASGTech[twitter.com] handle, retweet, tag and like our posts in order to help spread the word on Universal Acceptance. Thank you, Audrey Audrey Fery-Forgues Global Communications Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Office: +1 310 578 8901 Mobile: +1 424 537 8059 Email & Skype: Audrey.feryforgues(a)icann.org

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Bi-Di text treatment
by don.hollander＠uasg.tech March 25, 2018

March 25, 2018

I've seen a number of discussions recently about the challenges of treating text generally, and identifiers specifically, that include scripts/characters that operate both left-to-right AND right-to-left. I don't think that the UASG is a home for this because the issue extends beyond domain names and email addresses. But I think there must be someplace that focuses specifically on this topic and I would like to be able to provide a pointer to it. Any suggestions? Don

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Re: [UA-discuss] Draft Notes - UA at ICANN61 2018-03-22
by Dr Ajay Data March 23, 2018

March 23, 2018

Hello Andre, My id is 支持(a)xn--blq510jgwa.xn--io0a7i , could you please send me an email on this id from your any ID. I have tried sending email to this ID, none delivered from gmail or from our system. However I did receive email from 支持(a)xn--blq510jgwa.xn--io0a7i on my gmail id. I also could not send email email to my Hindi ID. the interface only accepts either Chinese or ascii. When I try to get MX of 互联网.网络(coremail domain) on mxtoolbox.com it shows me your-dns-needs-immediate-attention.xn--io0a7i , which should not be the case. Even when I check your email address 小山(a)xn--blq510jgwa.xn--io0a7i on https://eai.xgenplus.com it shows me the same DNS issue. Looks like coremail 互联网.网络 domain has DNS issue. When I try to get MX of this domain on my linux.. this is the result. [support@power0 ~]$ host -t mx 互联网.网络Host 互联网.网络 not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)[support@power0 ~]$ I am putting discuss list on BCC just to avoid unnecessary traffic. Thanks. Dr. Ajay DATA | Founder &amp CEO Get email id like अजय(a)xn--c2bd1gb.xn--h2brj9c in your own language,visit www.xgenplus.com From: Andre Schappo MailId : [79595450]To: Don Hollander Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Draft Notes - UA at ICANN61 2018-03-22Date: 22 Mar 2018 10:23:00 PM By way of completing the equation and as we are about EAI &amp IDNs: zh.icoremail.net = 互联网.中国 In addition to datamail.in there is a set of DataMail IDNs 电邮.在线 , डाटामेल.भारत and more. See schappo.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/computer-science-internationalization.html + I have had my DataMail 小山(a)xn--wny099c.xn--3ds443g for over a year now. When I saw the reference to Coremail in the Draft Notes I registered a Chinese email with them ➜ 小山(a)xn--blq510jgwa.xn--io0a7i I have done some testing between my 2 Chinese email addresses . Sending from 小山(a)xn--blq510jgwa.xn--io0a7i to 小山(a)xn--wny099c.xn--3ds443g works fine . Sending from 小山(a)xn--wny099c.xn--3ds443g to 小山(a)xn--blq510jgwa.xn--io0a7i did not work. I have reported the issue to DataMail support. Will let you know when it is working . Andr&eacute Schappo On 21 Mar 2018, at 20:26, Don Hollander don.hollander(a)icann.org> wrote: Please find attached draft notes and actions from the meetings in San Juan earlier this month . Corrections would be welcome by the beginning of next week . Thank you . Don Do not Remove:[HID]2018032222230021[-HID]

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Article about non latin characters and SEO
by Jovenet Consulting March 22, 2018

March 22, 2018

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AUTO: Ahmed Bakhat Masood is out of the office. (returning 22/03/2018)
by Ahmed Bakhat Masood March 21, 2018

March 21, 2018

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namespaces on XKCD
by Mark Svancarek March 20, 2018

March 20, 2018

https://www.xkcd.com/1963/

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Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-EAI] Local Part Guidelines
by Mark Svancarek March 14, 2018

March 14, 2018

I suppose, but I worry that would just encourage people to argue that they shouldn't have been discarded. Is there any way to explain that there is a spec for EAI, if you do what it says you will interoperate, and if you do something else, even something else which you imagine to be better, you won't? I always struggle with this. I recognize that the answer is actually very simple and does not require any elaboration. Nevertheless, I have been willing to be more verbose, even redundant, when describing the sorts of downgrading which is disallowed, simply because the topics continued to pop up. But at this point in history, I conclude that everyone on this discussion list (and everyone on the general US-DISCUSS list, which I have cc'd on this reply) should now have been exposed to the discussions and the conclusions and should no longer need so much hand-holding. Based on that conclusion, I will be taking a harder line on the topic of email downgrading. I will start shutting down the topic more aggressively. As I warned in a mail after EAI Summit #2 earlier this year, this may require me to be blunt to the point of rudeness. Apologies in advance. Summary: * The UASG cannot recommend any transformation of a username/nickname at any time for any reason. * The UASG accepts that a replacement of a non-ascii mailbox name with an ascii mailbox name can be used in very limited circumstances (only IF the sending system 'owns' the sending mail address and IF an ascii address is pre-defined in an alias field and IF the first hop is clearly not EAI Ready). * Note that if a "non-owning" sender is aware of such aliases and has them in their local mailbox, the sender may devise a mechanism for performing their own method (manual or otherwise). Regardless, UASG cannot recommend any transformation of the username. * Mailbox administrators can use any characters or set of characters not explicitly disallowed by the RFCs in their mailbox configurations. * IETF PRECIS has defined username and nickname profiles, and these should be taken as good practice recommendations for mailbox administrators when they assign mailboxes. * Please don't start new discussions about downgrading on the mailing list. * If someone does start a new discussion about downgrading on the mailing list, please refrain from participating in that non-production discussion. /marksv -----Original Message----- From: UA-EAI [mailto:ua-eai-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 17:53 To: ua-eai(a)icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-EAI] Local Part Guidelines w> 1. The UASG cannot recommend any transformation of a mailbox at any time for any reason. > 2. The UASG accepts that a replacement of a non-ascii mailbox name >with an ascii mailbox name can be used in very limited circumstances - >basically where the sending system 'owns' the sending mail address and an ascii address is pre-defined in a alias field and the first hop is clearly not EAI Ready. Yes, those sound right. For #2 another plausible case is that the sender is doing the downgrade and has the aliases in the local address book. > 3. Mailbox administrators can use any characters or set of >characters not explicitly disallowed by the RFCs in their mailbox configurations. > * Does the UASG recommend any approach to avoid confusion? I would rather point to someone >else's well considered work in this area. Does such exist? That's what the IETF PRECIS work was about. The username and nickname profiles are both plausible for local parts. I put references into the Google draft. > 4. We may include an Appendix in the EAI Documentation with some >history and examples of transformations that were discarded and why. I suppose, but I worry that would just encourage people to argue that they shouldn't have been discarded. Is there any way to explain that there is a spec for EAI, if you do what it says you will interoperate, and if you do something else, even something else which you imagine to be better, you won't? R's, JOhn _______________________________________________ UA-EAI mailing list UA-EAI(a)icann.org<mailto:UA-EAI@icann.org> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmm.icann.o…

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