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Folks,
Based on an analysis of messages, nameservers, domain names, it appears
that the following accounts might be trolls:
1. William Donovan
2. Richard Marson
3. Danny Dong
4. Nadira Anggora
5. Diana Arteaga
My intention is to declare these accounts persona-non-grata on all UASG
lists at the end of the day today (i.e., in about 8 hours’ time), unless
credible evidence points to the contrary. We will follow a similar process
for any other accounts that exhibit similar characteristics.
For reference, I have attached to this email the UASG Expected Standards of
Behavior, published in 2016.
Ram
Chair, UASG
8
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Jan. 4, 2019
pet, 4. jan 2019. 21:00 Dusan Stojicevic <dusan(a)dukes.in.rs> je napisao/la:
> Dear William, all,
>
> Thanks. You see now what is the real picture, but... Can I see your
> accomplishments in the area of UA? As I said, I am willing to answer the
> questions to the UA community, real UA community and I see your name for
> the second time, asking same question, and I would be glad to hear from you
> - what are your results. What is your contribution to the UASG. What
> qualifies you as UA community member?
>
> Same for the most of the people here on this thread. I am hearing for most
> of you for the first time and I am keen to listen about your contribution.
> I did my efforts, le
>
> Otherwise, you are blocked for me.
>
> Thanks,
> Dusan
>
>
>
> 04.01.2019. 19:20, "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com> je
> napisao/la:
>
> Dear Dusan
>
> Overjoyed with your below response. A settled attitude to eavesdrop
> realities and precise accordingly. To some degree accurately expected from
> a UASG official to understand that people are asking right questions and
> they should be responded instead of diverting.
>
> Cheers may you grow in leader soon.
>
>
> William
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 at 11:30 PM
> *From:* "Dusan Stojicevic" <dusan(a)dukes.in.rs>
> *To:* ua-discuss(a)icann.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> As one of the UA Ambassadors, mentioned couple of times in this thread, I
> would like to say that I am really thrilled to see so many people
> interested in our work.
>
> More than that, I am very happy that people are asking right questions and
> especially about spending money on something good and useful for this
> community.
>
> Unfortunately, I cannot speak about other UA Ambassador, because I am not
> familiar entirely with their work and I don’t like to speak without knowing
> facts. Every region is specific and different, starting with culture. There
> is no right approaches (especially when there is nothing left these days ;)
> ), every single move done by Ambassadors needs to be seen along with place
> and time of happening. Generalization about the whole Ambassador program is
> dangerous, if you don’t have the facts and go deeper in the work of every
> single Ambassador.
>
>
>
> I partially tried to answer the questions in Barcelona during some of the
> UA sessions, but apparently, you wasn’t there to hear the answer.
>
> Therefore, I am sending you my brief report on the first year of my work.
> Excuse me for my English, I am not native English speaking person, so
> probably there are mistakes. But as I said once, by speaking English on IDN
> sessions, we are missing the topic, so please - forgive me. You can also
> see that report goes back to middle of 2016 (and with my short bio), when I
> was not holding any title in UASG. That was written for you to compare my
> work “before and after”, and also, regarding spending money.
>
>
>
> As you can see, in my case, two trips were paid from UASG. That means
> flight tickets and accommodation for 2 (1st trip) and 3 days (second
> trip). I think it’s bellow 1K USD (not sure, because it’s not booked by
> me). I estimated the spending of my company and myself for other trips at
> least 15 times more than this figure, if this helps. Opinion on efficiency
> and the answer to the question does my work fits in your vision of UA
> Ambassador role, I leave all that to you. UASG is community driven, bottom
> up initiative, and the accountability must be checked by the community. I
> personally like the opinions in these thread, and I am inviting more people
> to join in discussing the work of UA Ambassadors, but based on the facts.
> Also, I am inviting all Ambassadors to do the similar (I hope better than
> me) reporting, so we can have fruitful discussion here and on F2F meeting,
> also Don to report about money and other valuable things for this program.
> It needs to be clear to all, in order to have right opinion, also regarding
> the future of the program (I’ve seen the opinion to extend the program).
>
>
>
> Regarding F2F meeting, because in orthodox countries such as Russia and
> Serbia, we celebrate Christmas on 7th January, I was unable to go there
> in person, but I would try to be present remotely. Also, even if this
> report was not asked from me, I feel obligated to deliver it for this F2F
> meeting, as my Ambassadors report, and I would like to hear from you and
> people who elected me, to judge my work. As I wrote in my report, I would
> be “UA Ambassador” with or without holding that title, the title is
> irrelevant for me - UA and IDN is not something that I work for titles and
> UASG funding, it’s my work for almost 10 years now. I can even say – way of
> life. J
>
>
>
> I am aware that elections are coming soon for UASG leadership roles, and I
> strongly believe that those questions about UA Ambassador program have
> nothing to do with elections. Someone mentioned Dr Ajay Data, and I can
> immediately agree with everything said about him. We are working together
> for couple of years, and I am amazed with all achievement he has in the
> area of EAI, hoping that he would take some position in UASG after
> elections.
>
>
>
> If you need more details, don’t hesitate to ask, I would be happy to
> answer them.
>
> *Quote: Tetris teaches us all that errors pile up and accomplishments
> disappear.;)*
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Душан Стојичевић, (Dusan Stojicevic) Serbia
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Abdalmonem
> Tharwat Galila
> *Sent:* Friday, January 4, 2019 11:57 AM
> *To:* Nadira Anggora <nadiraanggora(a)cyberservices.com>
> *Cc:* ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
>
>
> I committed to do a volunteering job not only as I said in my email which
> you did not see.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <
> agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg> wrote:
>
> I do not know why you ignored my email about what I agree totally with my
> colleague Ashish.
>
> Please go back to my emails, to get my point.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 4, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Nadira Anggora <
> nadiraanggora(a)cyberservices.com> wrote:
>
> +1William seriously unpromising beliefs of AM & Abdalmonem
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 at 12:14 AM
> *From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com>
> *To:* ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com, agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg,
> don.hollander(a)icann.org
> *Cc:* ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> Hello AM
>
> I am flabbergasted to perceive your email it immaculate us your
> hallucination, philosophies and outlooks. Infact of Asian’s UA Ambassador
> as Abdalmonem also instant in what you revealed.
>
> You have a squat commemoration, we come across and interchange our
> business cards during ICANN60.
>
> Glad that you partially agree with my point however I do not come to a
> pact on any of your edicts.
>
> Astonished to observe that UA Ambassadors do not know about what is
> expected and contributed by members of UASG and as off now we all were
> confident on such UA Ambassadors directly appointed for spreading awareness
> of UA.
>
> Your heroic self-proclamation that “UA Ambassadors are not employees or
> paid consultants and paid any $'s” evidently substantiate that UASG
> leadership failed to choose right team members, as people with such messy
> views can never contribute in any not for profit community associations
> looking for voluntary services.
>
> Do you & Abdalmonem contemplate that other UA Ambassadors Dusan, Tobias,
> Elaine or John who have given perceptible manifestation and angel for UASG
> mission ubiquitously are employees or paid consultants or funded, no they
> voluntary given their services. They prospered because they were not having
> messy outlooks or gluttony. Mortified with your chaotic compassions but
> still utterly motivating to see folks alike Ajay most perfect exemplar for
> UASG who without holding any position in UASG truly encouraged about UASG
> mission all over the places. Also he helps us to extricate why he succeed
> or people like AM or others have failed. Besides that one more thing which
> mark unblemished that when we choose mien compatible individuals in team we
> must corroborate period since when they are aiding IT industry, else they
> will also do analogous gaffes like AM who are merely fresh entrants in IT
> industry as I can decipher from his LinkedIn profile.
>
> If we be precise its must to be conversed on paramount precedence in the
> upcoming F2F meeting in Washington that do we need such messy outlook or
> gluttony thinking individuals around. It also provide symptomatic reason
> why we failed in ASIA to spread UA awareness as if we partake individuals
> like them as speakers in our important events then criticize received for
> IAMAI events during ICANN63 Barcelona was impeccable illustration of their
> stimulus.
>
> UASG leadership must cogitate and mien compatible individuals in team who
> ponder such imperative position, not those who take it to gain some
> monitory benefit or support. Yes it must be outlined again in F2F meeting
> in Washington and some elementary guiding principle must be made for
> selection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be accomplished.
>
> Unfortunately because of my imperative family onuses I will not be joining
> in F2F meeting in Washington but will try to be existing remotely
> conversely I demand chair RAM and other co-chairs to solemnly made cautious
> decision to get away from people with such messy views and mien compatible
> individuals in team who ponder such imperative position. I am concomitant
> with ICANN from over decades, at age of 73 unfluctuating even if I wish I
> could not make offer for this position as I can’t do justice with it but
> have aspiration to see that we have more people like Ajay to volunteer.
>
> William Donovan
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2019 at 8:36 PM
> *From:* "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg>
> *To:* "Ashish Modi" <ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com>, "`william donovan`" <
> william.donovan(a)techie.com>, "`don hollander`" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* "`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`" <`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`>, "
> ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> +1
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>
>
> All the Best,
>
> Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
>
> Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,
>
> Operation Sector.
>
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> *From:* UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org
> <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ashish Modi
> *Sent:* 2 January, 2019 4:03 PM
> *To:* `william donovan` <william.donovan(a)techie.com>; `don hollander` <
> don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* `ua-discuss(a)icann.org`; ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
>
>
> Hello William, Ram, Don and other community members,
>
>
> Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but I
> partially agree with your point.
>
> We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed by
> members of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they are
> directly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UA
> Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any other
> UA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or they
> have spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors have
> spent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission.
>
> We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles and
> Responsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in the
> upcoming F2F meeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there ,
> please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able to
> attend in person in DC or remotely. However it should be discussed as it
> will also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.
>
> Regarding IAMAI event, though I was speaker there and found good awareness
> activity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Some
> people may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. I
> would agree, we can always improve.
>
> To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA
> ambassadors in at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the
> upcoming meet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can
> be able to present on what they have contributed individually and what was
> expected from them and also prepare them for one year.
>
> It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype,
> whatsapp or any other medium.
>
> Thanks,
> AM
> UA Ambassador to India
>
> Skype:- ashishmodi5
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com> MailId :
> [87613749]
> *To:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
> *Date:* 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PM
>
> Hello Ram, Don and other community members
> Happy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as the
> tenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will take
> the chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UA
> Ambassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentary
> update of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. What
> if the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UA
> Ambassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contribute
> what was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team which
> has radically botched in conveying regarding which we all overheard
> abundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with completely failed events
> held in India explicitly with IAMAI. What’s the new pipeline of fresh faces
> for UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission of
> UASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it during
> Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed next
> week? William Donovan
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM
> *From:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *To:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject:* [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> FYI:
>
> The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington
> DC from January 7 to January 9th.
>
>
>
> The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared.
>
>
>
> The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Plan
> particularly in light of the ICANN’s Board inclusion of Universal
> Acceptance in its strategic agenda.
>
>
>
> Like all our meetings, we’ll provide remote access.
>
>
>
> If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me
> know so that we can manage the logistics.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Don Hollander
>
> Secretary General – UASG
>
> Skype: Don_Hollander
>
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Jeff Williams is back?!? - Was: UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
by Roberto Gaetano Jan. 4, 2019
by Roberto Gaetano Jan. 4, 2019
Jan. 4, 2019
Hi all
I think I recognise the pattern - please do not feed the trolls.
Cheers,
Roberto
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+1@Ashish ModiThanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst,National Internet Exchange of IndiaISOC FELLOW | inSIG FELLOWIIREF FELLOW | UASG AMBASSADORwww.nixi.in | www.indiaig.in | registry.inFrom: ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgSent: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 17:39:34 GMT+0530To: ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 49, Issue 3Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to ua-discuss(a)icann.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at ua-discuss-owner(a)icann.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest..."Today's Topics: 1. Re: UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting (Ashish Modi) 2. Re: UASG Coordination Group - Face to
Face Meeting (Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila) 3. Re: More from Ram Mohan on ICANN's further commitment to Universal Acceptance (Leo Vegoda) 4. Re: UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting (William Donovan) 5. Re: UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting (Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila) 6. Re: UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting (William Donovan) 7. Re: UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting (Ram Mohan)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 19:33:12 +0530 (IST)From: Ashish Modi<ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com>To: `william donovan` <william.donovan(a)techie.com>, `don hollander` <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: `ua-discuss(a)icann.org`, ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Mee
tingMessage-ID: <487613604.117271546437792308.JavaMail.root@mx2.datainfosys.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello William, Ram, Don and other community members,Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but I partially agree with your point. We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed by members of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they are directly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UA Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any other UA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or they have spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors have spent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission. We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles and Responsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in the upcoming F2F m
eeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there , please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able to attend in person in DC or remotely. However it should be discussed as it will also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.Regarding IAMAI event, though I was speaker there and found good awareness activity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Some people may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. I would agree, we can always improve. To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA ambassadors in at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the upcoming meet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can be able to present on what they have contributed individually and what was expected from them and also prepare them for one year. It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype, whatsapp or any other medium.Thanks,AMUA Ambassador t
o IndiaSkype:- ashishmodi5From: "William Donovan" MailId : [87613749]To: "Don Hollander" Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingDate: 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PMHello Ram, Don and other community membersHappy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as the tenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will take the chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UA Ambassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentary update of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. What if the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UA Ambassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contribute what was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team which has radically botched in conveying regarding which we all overheard abundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with co
mpletely failed events held in India explicitly with IAMAI. What&rsquos the new pipeline of fresh faces for UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission of UASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it during Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed next week?William DonovanSent: Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM From: "Don Hollander" To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingFYI: The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC from January 7 to January 9th .The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared .The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Plan particularly in light of the ICANN&rsquos Board inclusion of Universal Acceptance in its strategic agenda .Like all our meetings, we&rsquoll provide remote access .If you are thinking about attending
in person, would you please let me know so that we can manage the logistics .Thanks .DonDon HollanderSecretary General &ndash UASGSkype: Don_Hollander. Do not Remove:[HID]20190101154128699[-HID][XGENFOOTER][-XGENFOOTER]-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20190102/71668952/attachment-0001.html>------------------------------Message: 2Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2019 15:06:55 +0000From: Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg>To: Ashish Modi <ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com>, `william donovan` <william.donovan(a)techie.com>, `don hollander` <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: "`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`" <`ua-discuss@icann.org`>, "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingMessage-ID: <0c4fc6
7f8b49431c91ded5398ae8dad5(a)MCIT-B1MBBK-01.mcit.core.local>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"+1Thanks a lot.All the Best,Abdalmonem Tharwat GalilaDeputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,Operation Sector.[NTRA Logo 2016]National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile] Mobile: +2 010 00049068[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: ICON] Fax : +2 02 35370537[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE] &nb
sp;Website : http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/>[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila@mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg> : atharwat@tra.gov.eg<mailto:atharwat@tra.gov.eg>[Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila[Description: static_qr_code_without_logo][Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of
the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) . Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Ashish ModiSent: 2 January, 2019 4:03 PMTo: `william donovan` <william.donovan(a)techie.com>; `don hollander` <don.hollander(a)icann.org>Cc: `ua-discuss(a)icann.org`; ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingHello William, Ram, Don and other community members,Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but I partially agree
with your point.We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed by members of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they are directly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UA Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any other UA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or they have spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors have spent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission.We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles and Responsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in the upcoming F2F meeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there , please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able to attend in person in DC or remotely. However it should be discussed as it will also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.Regarding IAMAI event, though
I was speaker there and found good awareness activity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Some people may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. I would agree, we can always improve.To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA ambassadors in at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the upcoming meet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can be able to present on what they have contributed individually and what was expected from them and also prepare them for one year.It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype, whatsapp or any other medium.Thanks,AMUA Ambassador to IndiaSkype:- ashishmodi5________________________________From: "William Donovan" <William.Donovan@techie.com<mailto:William.Donovan@techie.com>> MailId : [87613749]To: "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>>Cc: &q
uot;ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>" <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingDate: 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PMHello Ram, Don and other community membersHappy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as the tenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will take the chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UA Ambassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentary update of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. What if the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UA Ambassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contribute what was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team which has radically botched in conveying regarding which we all overheard abundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with completely failed events held i
n India explicitly with IAMAI. What?s the new pipeline of fresh faces for UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission of UASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it during Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed next week?William DonovanSent: Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PMFrom: "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>>To: "ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>" <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>>Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingFYI:The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC from January 7 to January 9th.The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared.The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Plan particularly in light of the ICANN?s Board inclusion of Universal Acceptance in its strategic a
genda.Like all our meetings, we?ll provide remote access.If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me know so that we can manage the logistics.Thanks.DonDon HollanderSecretary General ? UASGSkype: Don_Hollander.Do not Remove:[HID]20190101154128699[-HID][XGENFOOTER][-XGENFOOTER][http://mail%20… next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20190102/60128a46/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: image001.pngType: image/pngSize: 32157 bytesDesc: image001.pngURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20190102/60128a46/image001-0001.png>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: image002.pngType: image/pngSize: 450 bytesDesc: image002.pngURL: &l
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core.com" <john.levine(a)standcore.com>, "asmusf@ix.netcom.com" <asmusf@ix.netcom.com>Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] More from Ram Mohan on ICANN's further commitment to Universal AcceptanceMessage-ID: <dcef22246a124abab8b23ca7d044d089@PMBX112-W1-CA-1.PEXCH112.ICANN.ORG>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Dr. Ajay Data wrote:[...]> So I would support Andre argument for ICANN to adopt IDNs ,> walk the talk and become UA ready.This might be a good opportunity to remind people that we publish the statusof our UA readiness in the Accountability Indicators. You can find them at:https://www.icann.org/accountability-indicatorsThe Universal Acceptance Readiness chart is in Goal 3.2. We welcome yourfeedback on this and other charts in the Accountability Indicators.Kind regards,Leo VegodaOperati
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meet around one table at least one time/year and more existence should be in Asia.I am African and I did many awareness sessions inside my country to raise awareness not only about UA but also IDN and EAI.I am volunteering as UA ambassador and I am looking for more awareness session, training and workshop inside my country and Africa.Thanks a lot.All the Best,Abdalmonem Tharwat GalilaDeputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,Operation Sector.[NTRA Logo 2016]National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile] Mobile: +2 010 00049068[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Descr
iption: Description: ICON] Fax : +2 02 35370537[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE] Website : http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/>[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila@mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg> : atharwat@tra.gov.eg<mailto:atharwat@tra.gov.eg>[Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila[Description: static_qr_code_without_logo][Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:
Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) . Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.From: William Donovan [mailto:William.Donovan@techie.com]Sent: 2 January, 2019 8:44 PMTo: ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com; Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg>; don.hollander(a)icann.orgCc: ua-discuss(a)icann.org; ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: R
e: RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingHello AMI am flabbergasted to perceive your email it immaculate us your hallucination, philosophies and outlooks. Infact of Asian?s UA Ambassador as Abdalmonem also instant in what you revealed.You have a squat commemoration, we come across and interchange our business cards during ICANN60.Glad that you partially agree with my point however I do not come to a pact on any of your edicts.Astonished to observe that UA Ambassadors do not know about what is expected and contributed by members of UASG and as off now we all were confident on such UA Ambassadors directly appointed for spreading awareness of UA.Your heroic self-proclamation that ?UA Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants and paid any $'s? evidently substantiate that UASG leadership failed to choose right team members, as people with such messy views can never contribute in any not for profit community associations looking for voluntary services.
Do you & Abdalmonem contemplate that other UA Ambassadors Dusan, Tobias, Elaine or John who have given perceptible manifestation and angel for UASG mission ubiquitously are employees or paid consultants or funded, no they voluntary given their services. They prospered because they were not having messy outlooks or gluttony. Mortified with your chaotic compassions but still utterly motivating to see folks alike Ajay most perfect exemplar for UASG who without holding any position in UASG truly encouraged about UASG mission all over the places. Also he helps us to extricate why he succeed or people like AM or others have failed. Besides that one more thing which mark unblemished that when we choose mien compatible individuals in team we must corroborate period since when they are aiding IT industry, else they will also do analogous gaffes like AM who are merely fresh entrants in IT industry as I can decipher from his LinkedIn profile.If we be precise its must to be conversed
on paramount precedence in the upcoming F2F meeting in Washington that do we need such messy outlook or gluttony thinking individuals around. It also provide symptomatic reason why we failed in ASIA to spread UA awareness as if we partake individuals like them as speakers in our important events then criticize received for IAMAI events during ICANN63 Barcelona was impeccable illustration of their stimulus.UASG leadership must cogitate and mien compatible individuals in team who ponder such imperative position, not those who take it to gain some monitory benefit or support. Yes it must be outlined again in F2F meeting in Washington and some elementary guiding principle must be made for selection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be accomplished.Unfortunately because of my imperative family onuses I will not be joining in F2F meeting in Washington but will try to be existing remotely conversely I demand chair RAM and other co-chairs to solemnly made cautious decision to
get away from people with such messy views and mien compatible individuals in team who ponder such imperative position. I am concomitant with ICANN from over decades, at age of 73 unfluctuating even if I wish I could not make offer for this position as I can?t do justice with it but have aspiration to see that we have more people like Ajay to volunteer.William DonovanSent: Wednesday, January 02, 2019 at 8:36 PMFrom: "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila@mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg>>To: "Ashish Modi" <ashishmodi@xgenplus.com<mailto:ashishmodi@xgenplus.com>>, "`william donovan`" <william.donovan@techie.com<mailto:william.donovan@techie.com>>, "`don hollander`" <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>>Cc: "`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`" <`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`>, "ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>" <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:u
a-discuss(a)icann.org>>Subject: RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting+1Thanks a lot.All the Best,Abdalmonem Tharwat GalilaDeputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,Operation Sector.[NTRA Logo 2016]National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile] Mobile: +2 010 00049068[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: ICON] Fax : +2 02 35370537[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE] Website :&
nbsp;http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/>[Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila@mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg> : atharwat@tra.gov.eg<mailto:atharwat@tra.gov.eg>[Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila[Description: static_qr_code_without_logo][Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individu
al or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) . Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Ashish ModiSent: 2 January, 2019 4:03 PMTo: `william donovan` <william.donovan@techie.com<mailto:william.donovan@techie.com>>; `don hollander` <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>>Cc: `ua-discuss(a)icann.org`; ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingHello William, Ram, Don and other comm
unity members,Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but I partially agree with your point.We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed by members of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they are directly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UA Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any other UA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or they have spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors have spent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission.We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles and Responsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in the upcoming F2F meeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there , please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able to attend in person in DC or remotely. However it should be discu
ssed as it will also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.Regarding IAMAI event, though I was speaker there and found good awareness activity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Some people may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. I would agree, we can always improve.To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA ambassadors in at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the upcoming meet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can be able to present on what they have contributed individually and what was expected from them and also prepare them for one year.It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype, whatsapp or any other medium.Thanks,AMUA Ambassador to IndiaSkype:- ashishmodi5________________________________From: "William Donovan" <William.Donovan@techie.com<mailto:William.Donovan@techie.com>> MailId : [87613749]To:
"Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>>Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>" <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>>Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingDate: 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PMHello Ram, Don and other community membersHappy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as the tenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will take the chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UA Ambassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentary update of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. What if the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UA Ambassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contribute what was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team which has radically botched in conveying regarding w
hich we all overheard abundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with completely failed events held in India explicitly with IAMAI. What?s the new pipeline of fresh faces for UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission of UASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it during Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed next week?William DonovanSent: Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PMFrom: "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>>To: "ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>" <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>>Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingFYI:The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC from January 7 to January 9th.The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared.The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic
Plan particularly in light of the ICANN?s Board inclusion of Universal Acceptance in its strategic agenda.Like all our meetings, we?ll provide remote access.If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me know so that we can manage the logistics.Thanks.DonDon HollanderSecretary General ? UASGSkype: Don_Hollander.Do not Remove:[HID]20190101154128699[-HID][XGENFOOTER][-XGENFOOTER][http://mail%20… next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20190102/55b3e4a8/attachment-0001.html>-------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: image001.pngType: image/pngSize: 32157 bytesDesc: image001.pngURL: <http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20190102/55b3e4a8/image001-0001.png>-------------- next part --------------A non-tex
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ss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingMessage-ID: <022bd403e3d62e97c4451bfb547bc3e9(a)mail.gmail.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"Folks on this thread, and others on the list:All of the points raised below are interesting and worth discussing at ourF2F meeting next week.I would not be hasty, however, in labeling the Ambassador programcategorically as complete failures, or cast aspersions on people?smotivations. Those should be decisions we arrive upon after studyingavailable data, rather than only individual opinions.We are trying out the Ambassador program for the first time. We have tolearn what worked and what did not work. And adjust accordingly. In themeanwhile, it is appropriate for us to be grateful for the work theAmbassadors are doing on behalf of the UASG.Similarly, we are trying out the work with IAMAI in India for the firsttime. I have heard anecdotally that the program is not working as intended.It would be good to
understand what factors contributed to the currentstate, and what we learn from it.Overall, the spirit of what we are accomplishing, and quite well, in theUASG, is to try several ideas without a high cost associated with them tosee what achieves traction. We will only commit larger efforts and money toideas that we have already vetted on a small scale.It would be good for all those interested to participate, remotely or inperson, at the F2F next week, and spark deep conversations that lead toreal outcomes.Regards,Ram---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ram Mohan(o) +1.215.706.5700 x103 (m) +1.215.431.0958 (f) +1.215.706.5701rmohan(a)afilias.info | Skype: gliderpilot30 | Twitter @rmohan123---------------------------------------------------------------------------------*From:* William Donovan <William.Donovan@techie.com>*Sent:* Wednesday, January 2, 2019 10:18 PM*To:* Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg>*Cc:*
ua-discuss@icann.org*Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingHello AbdalmonemTactlessly you were not categorical in your preceding retort on which I washave solemn objections. What stops UA Ambassador in meeting around table,Scrutinized you, Dusan, Tobias, Elaine or John doing so on numerousjunctures in preceding physically or remotely. Regrettably AM who raisedthis was barely accessible remotely even in former occasions or meetings,in below email also he regret to be available even remotely in F2F. It?s anerroneous communiqu? for people who are unreservedly volunteering theirservices that assembly is only conceivable if UASG funds them, remuneratethem $?s to do so. Evidences that how much righteousness they are doingwith the position. Such transmits are entirely disheartening.Good NightWilliam Donovan*Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 at 12:46 AM*From:* "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila@mcit.gov.eg>*To:* "William Donovan&quo
t; <William.Donovan(a)techie.com>, "ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com" <ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com>, "don.hollander@icann.org"<don.hollander@icann.org>*Cc:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>, "ua-discuss@icann.org"<ua-discuss@icann.org>*Subject:* RE: RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to FaceMeetingHello William, I am agree totally with Ashish that ambassadors should meetaround one table at least one time/year and more existence should be inAsia.I am African and I did many awareness sessions inside my country to raiseawareness not only about UA but also IDN and EAI.I am volunteering as UA ambassador and I am looking for more awarenesssession, training and workshop inside my country and Africa.Thanks a lot.All the Best,Abdalmonem Tharwat GalilaDeputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,Operation Sector.[image: NTRA Logo 2016]National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority[image: Description: Description: Descripti
on: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile]Mobile: +2 010 00049068[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: ICON] Fax: +2 02 35370537[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE]Website : http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg <http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg <http://www.mcit.gov.eg/>[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Descriptio
n:1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila@mcit.gov.eg : atharwat(a)tra.gov.eg[image: Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila[image: Description: static_qr_code_without_logo]*[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER* This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are *confidential *andintended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they areaddressed. If you have received this email in error please notify yoursystem support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented inthis email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily representthose of the *National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) *. Finally, therecipient should check this email a
nd any attachments for the presence ofviruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virustransmitted by this email.*From:* William Donovan [mailto:William.Donovan@techie.com<William.Donovan@techie.com>]*Sent:* 2 January, 2019 8:44 PM*To:* ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com; Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg>; don.hollander@icann.org*Cc:* ua-discuss(a)icann.org; ua-discuss@icann.org*Subject:* Re: RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to FaceMeetingHello AMI am flabbergasted to perceive your email it immaculate us yourhallucination, philosophies and outlooks. Infact of Asian?s UA Ambassadoras Abdalmonem also instant in what you revealed.You have a squat commemoration, we come across and interchange our businesscards during ICANN60.Glad that you partially agree with my point however I do not come to a pacton any of your edicts.Astonished to observe that UA Ambassadors do not know about what isexpected and contributed by members of UASG and as
off now we all wereconfident on such UA Ambassadors directly appointed for spreading awarenessof UA.Your heroic self-proclamation that ?UA Ambassadors are not employees orpaid consultants and paid any $'s? evidently substantiate that UASGleadership failed to choose right team members, as people with such messyviews can never contribute in any not for profit community associationslooking for voluntary services.Do you & Abdalmonem contemplate that other UA Ambassadors Dusan, Tobias,Elaine or John who have given perceptible manifestation and angel for UASGmission ubiquitously are employees or paid consultants or funded, no theyvoluntary given their services. They prospered because they were not havingmessy outlooks or gluttony. Mortified with your chaotic compassions butstill utterly motivating to see folks alike Ajay most perfect exemplar forUASG who without holding any position in UASG truly encouraged about UASGmission all over the places. Also he helps us to extricat
e why he succeedor people like AM or others have failed. Besides that one more thing whichmark unblemished that when we choose mien compatible individuals in team wemust corroborate period since when they are aiding IT industry, else theywill also do analogous gaffes like AM who are merely fresh entrants in ITindustry as I can decipher from his LinkedIn profile.If we be precise its must to be conversed on paramount precedence in theupcoming F2F meeting in Washington that do we need such messy outlook orgluttony thinking individuals around. It also provide symptomatic reasonwhy we failed in ASIA to spread UA awareness as if we partake individualslike them as speakers in our important events then criticize received forIAMAI events during ICANN63 Barcelona was impeccable illustration of theirstimulus.UASG leadership must cogitate and mien compatible individuals in team whoponder such imperative position, not those who take it to gain somemonitory benefit or support. Yes it must be outl
ined again in F2F meetingin Washington and some elementary guiding principle must be made forselection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be accomplished.Unfortunately because of my imperative family onuses I will not be joiningin F2F meeting in Washington but will try to be existing remotelyconversely I demand chair RAM and other co-chairs to solemnly made cautiousdecision to get away from people with such messy views and mien compatibleindividuals in team who ponder such imperative position. I am concomitantwith ICANN from over decades, at age of 73 unfluctuating even if I wish Icould not make offer for this position as I can?t do justice with it buthave aspiration to see that we have more people like Ajay to volunteer.William Donovan*Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2019 at 8:36 PM*From:* "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila@mcit.gov.eg>*To:* "Ashish Modi" <ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com>, "`william donovan`" <william.donovan@techie
.com>, "`don hollander`" <don.hollander@icann.org>*Cc:* "`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`" <`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`>, "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>*Subject:* RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting+1Thanks a lot.All the Best,Abdalmonem Tharwat GalilaDeputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,Operation Sector.[image: NTRA Logo 2016]National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile]Mobile: +2 010 00049068[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: ICON] Fax: +2 02
35370537[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE]Website : http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg <http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg <http://www.mcit.gov.eg/>[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila@mcit.gov.eg : atharwat(a)tra.gov.eg[image: Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila[image: Description: static_qr_code_without_logo]*[image: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER*
This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are *confidential *andintended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they areaddressed. If you have received this email in error please notify yoursystem support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented inthis email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily representthose of the *National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) *. Finally, therecipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence ofviruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virustransmitted by this email.*From:* UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org<ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ashish Modi*Sent:* 2 January, 2019 4:03 PM*To:* `william donovan` <william.donovan(a)techie.com>; `don hollander` <don.hollander@icann.org>*Cc:* `ua-discuss(a)icann.org`; ua-discuss@icann.org*Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face
to Face MeetingHello William, Ram, Don and other community members,Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but Ipartially agree with your point.We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed bymembers of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they aredirectly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UAAmbassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any otherUA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or theyhave spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors havespent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission.We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles andResponsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in theupcoming F2F meeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there ,please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able toattend in person in DC or
remotely. However it should be discussed as itwill also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.Regarding IAMAI event, though I was speaker there and found good awarenessactivity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Somepeople may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. Iwould agree, we can always improve.To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA ambassadorsin at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the upcomingmeet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can be ableto present on what they have contributed individually and what was expectedfrom them and also prepare them for one year.It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype,whatsapp or any other medium.Thanks,AMUA Ambassador to IndiaSkype:- ashishmodi5------------------------------*From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com> MailId : [87613749]*To:* "Don H
ollander" <don.hollander@icann.org>*Cc:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>*Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting*Date:* 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PMHello Ram, Don and other community membersHappy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as thetenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will takethe chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UAAmbassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentaryupdate of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. Whatif the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UAAmbassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contributewhat was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team whichhas radically botched in conveying regarding which we all overheardabundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with completely failed eventsheld in India explicitly wit
h IAMAI. What?s the new pipeline of fresh facesfor UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission ofUASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it duringFace-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed nextweek? William Donovan*Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM*From:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org>*To:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org>*Subject:* [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face MeetingFYI:The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in WashingtonDC from January 7 to January 9th.The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared.The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Planparticularly in light of the ICANN?s Board inclusion of UniversalAcceptance in its strategic agenda.Like all our meetings, we?ll provide remote access.If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me knows
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Re: [UA-discuss] Fw: Re: UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
by Diana Arteaga Jan. 4, 2019
by Diana Arteaga Jan. 4, 2019
Jan. 4, 2019
+1 @William
all fellows in UASG On no occasion i never presume that people willing to
represent community will have such narrow thinking.
TC
Diana Arteaga
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 at 12:14 AM
> *From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com>
> *To:* ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com, agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg,
> don.hollander(a)icann.org
> *Cc:* ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> Hello AM
>
> I am flabbergasted to perceive your email it immaculate us your
> hallucination, philosophies and outlooks. Infact of Asian’s UA Ambassador
> as Abdalmonem also instant in what you revealed.
>
> You have a squat commemoration, we come across and interchange our
> business cards during ICANN60.
>
> Glad that you partially agree with my point however I do not come to a
> pact on any of your edicts.
>
> Astonished to observe that UA Ambassadors do not know about what is
> expected and contributed by members of UASG and as off now we all were
> confident on such UA Ambassadors directly appointed for spreading awareness
> of UA.
>
> Your heroic self-proclamation that “UA Ambassadors are not employees or
> paid consultants and paid any $'s” evidently substantiate that UASG
> leadership failed to choose right team members, as people with such messy
> views can never contribute in any not for profit community associations
> looking for voluntary services.
>
> Do you & Abdalmonem contemplate that other UA Ambassadors Dusan, Tobias,
> Elaine or John who have given perceptible manifestation and angel for UASG
> mission ubiquitously are employees or paid consultants or funded, no they
> voluntary given their services. They prospered because they were not having
> messy outlooks or gluttony. Mortified with your chaotic compassions but
> still utterly motivating to see folks alike Ajay most perfect exemplar for
> UASG who without holding any position in UASG truly encouraged about UASG
> mission all over the places. Also he helps us to extricate why he succeed
> or people like AM or others have failed. Besides that one more thing which
> mark unblemished that when we choose mien compatible individuals in team we
> must corroborate period since when they are aiding IT industry, else they
> will also do analogous gaffes like AM who are merely fresh entrants in IT
> industry as I can decipher from his LinkedIn profile.
>
> If we be precise its must to be conversed on paramount precedence in the
> upcoming F2F meeting in Washington that do we need such messy outlook or
> gluttony thinking individuals around. It also provide symptomatic reason
> why we failed in ASIA to spread UA awareness as if we partake individuals
> like them as speakers in our important events then criticize received for
> IAMAI events during ICANN63 Barcelona was impeccable illustration of their
> stimulus.
>
> UASG leadership must cogitate and mien compatible individuals in team who
> ponder such imperative position, not those who take it to gain some
> monitory benefit or support. Yes it must be outlined again in F2F meeting
> in Washington and some elementary guiding principle must be made for
> selection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be accomplished.
>
> Unfortunately because of my imperative family onuses I will not be joining
> in F2F meeting in Washington but will try to be existing remotely
> conversely I demand chair RAM and other co-chairs to solemnly made cautious
> decision to get away from people with such messy views and mien compatible
> individuals in team who ponder such imperative position. I am concomitant
> with ICANN from over decades, at age of 73 unfluctuating even if I wish I
> could not make offer for this position as I can’t do justice with it but
> have aspiration to see that we have more people like Ajay to volunteer.
>
> William Donovan
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2019 at 8:36 PM
> *From:* "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg>
> *To:* "Ashish Modi" <ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com>, "`william donovan`" <
> william.donovan(a)techie.com>, "`don hollander`" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* "`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`" <`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`>, "
> ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> +1
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>
>
> All the Best,
>
> Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
>
> Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,
>
> Operation Sector.
>
>
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> Modi
> *Sent:* 2 January, 2019 4:03 PM
> *To:* `william donovan` <william.donovan(a)techie.com>; `don hollander` <
> don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* `ua-discuss(a)icann.org`; ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
>
>
> Hello William, Ram, Don and other community members,
>
>
> Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but I
> partially agree with your point.
>
> We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed by
> members of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they are
> directly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UA
> Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any other
> UA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or they
> have spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors have
> spent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission.
>
> We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles and
> Responsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in the
> upcoming F2F meeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there ,
> please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able to
> attend in person in DC or remotely. However it should be discussed as it
> will also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.
>
> Regarding IAMAI event, though I was speaker there and found good awareness
> activity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Some
> people may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. I
> would agree, we can always improve.
>
> To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA
> ambassadors in at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the
> upcoming meet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can
> be able to present on what they have contributed individually and what was
> expected from them and also prepare them for one year.
>
> It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype,
> whatsapp or any other medium.
>
> Thanks,
> AM
> UA Ambassador to India
>
> Skype:- ashishmodi5
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com> MailId :
> [87613749]
> *To:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
> *Date:* 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PM
>
> Hello Ram, Don and other community members
> Happy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as the
> tenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will take
> the chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UA
> Ambassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentary
> update of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. What
> if the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UA
> Ambassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contribute
> what was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team which
> has radically botched in conveying regarding which we all overheard
> abundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with completely failed events
> held in India explicitly with IAMAI. What’s the new pipeline of fresh faces
> for UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission of
> UASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it during
> Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed next
> week? William Donovan
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM
> *From:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *To:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject:* [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> FYI:
>
> The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington
> DC from January 7 to January 9th.
>
>
>
> The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared.
>
>
>
> The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Plan
> particularly in light of the ICANN’s Board inclusion of Universal
> Acceptance in its strategic agenda.
>
>
>
> Like all our meetings, we’ll provide remote access.
>
>
>
> If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me
> know so that we can manage the logistics.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Don Hollander
>
> Secretary General – UASG
>
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+1 @Danny
Its really surprising DON why facts were not disclosed to community, i hope
atleast now at F2F response on each of the below points will be provided.
TC
Diana
> *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 at 2:46 PM
> *From:* "danny dong" <dannydong(a)tech-center.com>
> *To:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] [Ext] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face
> Meeting
>
> Hello Don
>
> Solemnly your below note is not at all vindicated and graceful. Conferring
> to ICANN procedure we as community must value each other comments and if an
> issue is been upraised to administrative group then its onus of that group
> to mien and take cautious decision instead of out rightly snubbing it on
> peculiar identical or disinclinations
>
> *Can you be impartial and translucent to community by sharing during F2F: *
>
> - What translucent procedure was adopted in appointment and selection
> of UA Ambassador?
> - Why feedback and voting from community was not been done for their
> selection?
> - How many individuals put on for this position till now?
> - What was done with those solicitations?
> - What was the terms for which they were been positioned?
> - What were the roles and responsibilities of these individuals in
> there region?
> - What were the monitoring benchmarks?
> - What is the evolution testimony of each individual?
>
> Apologetic the entire selection process of UA Ambassador was kept in few
> hands whereas it should have been similar to selection via election as done
> for other administrative group positions because of which erroneous
> selections happened.
>
>
>
> Danny
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 at 1:23 PM
> *From:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *To:* "danny dong" <dannydong(a)tech-center.com>, "Richard Marson" <
> Richardmarson(a)techie.com>, "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [Ext] Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to
> Face Meeting
>
> Thank you for your note.
>
>
>
> With regard to the Ambassadors, I know them all. (Note that knowing me is
> not a requirement to be an ambassador)
>
>
>
> They all know the topic very well and for many it is because they work in
> the space. They also each speak and present well.
>
>
>
> They are able to present on the topic to a variety of audiences.
>
>
>
> I hope that answer your query.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* danny dong <dannydong(a)tech-center.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, 4 January 2019 7:50 PM
> *To:* Richard Marson <Richardmarson(a)techie.com>; Don Hollander <
> don.hollander(a)icann.org>; ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* [Ext] Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face
> Meeting
>
>
>
> ++Agree with opinions of Richard and William. Its must to be conversed and
> closed on precedence in F2F.
>
>
>
> DON what kind of individuals you all have designated to symbolize our
> community, i will also address this in March during ICANN public forum, its
> serious issue of conflict of interest and individuals with such beliefs are
> jeopardy for UASG.
>
>
>
> Danny Dong
>
> Civil Society
>
>
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 04, 2019 at 9:05 AM
> *From:* "Richard Marson" <Richardmarson(a)techie.com>
> *To:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com>
> *Cc:* ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com, agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg,
> don.hollander(a)icann.org, ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* Re:[UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> ++William Thanks for emphasizing, accurate and necessity for UASG
>
> Dear All
>
> I strappingly sustenance in what William mentioned. UASG leadership must
> think and look well-matched individuals in team who contemplate such
> authoritative position, it’s not at all for folks who believe to gain some
> monitory benefit from it.
>
> It must be charted in F2F meeting in Washington, serious actions must be
> initiated against such thinking folks and guiding principle must be made
> for selection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be
> accomplished.
>
>
>
> Best Wishes
>
> Richard Marson
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 03, 2019 at 12:14 AM
> *From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com>
> *To:* ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com, agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg,
> don.hollander(a)icann.org
> *Cc:* ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
>
>
> Hello AM
>
> I am flabbergasted to perceive your email it immaculate us your
> hallucination, philosophies and outlooks. Infact of Asian’s UA Ambassador
> as Abdalmonem also instant in what you revealed.
>
> You have a squat commemoration, we come across and interchange our
> business cards during ICANN60.
>
> Glad that you partially agree with my point however I do not come to a
> pact on any of your edicts.
>
> Astonished to observe that UA Ambassadors do not know about what is
> expected and contributed by members of UASG and as off now we all were
> confident on such UA Ambassadors directly appointed for spreading awareness
> of UA.
>
> Your heroic self-proclamation that “UA Ambassadors are not employees or
> paid consultants and paid any $'s” evidently substantiate that UASG
> leadership failed to choose right team members, as people with such messy
> views can never contribute in any not for profit community associations
> looking for voluntary services.
>
> Do you & Abdalmonem contemplate that other UA Ambassadors Dusan, Tobias,
> Elaine or John who have given perceptible manifestation and angel for UASG
> mission ubiquitously are employees or paid consultants or funded, no they
> voluntary given their services. They prospered because they were not having
> messy outlooks or gluttony. Mortified with your chaotic compassions but
> still utterly motivating to see folks alike Ajay most perfect exemplar for
> UASG who without holding any position in UASG truly encouraged about UASG
> mission all over the places. Also he helps us to extricate why he succeed
> or people like AM or others have failed. Besides that one more thing which
> mark unblemished that when we choose mien compatible individuals in team we
> must corroborate period since when they are aiding IT industry, else they
> will also do analogous gaffes like AM who are merely fresh entrants in IT
> industry as I can decipher from his LinkedIn profile.
>
> If we be precise its must to be conversed on paramount precedence in the
> upcoming F2F meeting in Washington that do we need such messy outlook or
> gluttony thinking individuals around. It also provide symptomatic reason
> why we failed in ASIA to spread UA awareness as if we partake individuals
> like them as speakers in our important events then criticize received for
> IAMAI events during ICANN63 Barcelona was impeccable illustration of their
> stimulus.
>
> UASG leadership must cogitate and mien compatible individuals in team who
> ponder such imperative position, not those who take it to gain some
> monitory benefit or support. Yes it must be outlined again in F2F meeting
> in Washington and some elementary guiding principle must be made for
> selection of volunteers of UASG then only our mission can be accomplished.
>
> Unfortunately because of my imperative family onuses I will not be joining
> in F2F meeting in Washington but will try to be existing remotely
> conversely I demand chair RAM and other co-chairs to solemnly made cautious
> decision to get away from people with such messy views and mien compatible
> individuals in team who ponder such imperative position. I am concomitant
> with ICANN from over decades, at age of 73 unfluctuating even if I wish I
> could not make offer for this position as I can’t do justice with it but
> have aspiration to see that we have more people like Ajay to volunteer.
>
> William Donovan
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 02, 2019 at 8:36 PM
> *From:* "Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila" <agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg>
> *To:* "Ashish Modi" <ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com>, "`william donovan`" <
> william.donovan(a)techie.com>, "`don hollander`" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* "`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`" <`ua-discuss(a)icann.org`>, "
> ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> +1
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>
>
> All the Best,
>
> Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
>
> Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,
>
> Operation Sector.
>
>
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> *From:* UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org
> <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Ashish Modi
> *Sent:* 2 January, 2019 4:03 PM
> *To:* `william donovan` <william.donovan(a)techie.com>; `don hollander` <
> don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* `ua-discuss(a)icann.org`; ua-discuss(a)icann.org
> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
>
>
> Hello William, Ram, Don and other community members,
>
>
> Though I have never met your personally in any of the UA meetings but I
> partially agree with your point.
>
> We all need to discuss in detail about what is expected and contributed by
> members of UASG and with little specific to UA Ambassadors as they are
> directly appointed for spreading awareness. It should be noted that UA
> Ambassadors are not employees or paid consultants, they are like any other
> UA member and I don`t think UA ambassadors are even paid any $`s or they
> have spent any money till now at-least in India. Rather UA ambassadors have
> spent money from there pocket for travel etc and contributed in UA mission.
>
> We need to have clear direction, agenda and guideline with the Roles and
> Responsibility for UA Ambassadors and members. This may be discussed in the
> upcoming F2F meeting in Washington or in Kobe. If you are attending there ,
> please feel free to raise these points. Unfortunately I am not able to
> attend in person in DC or remotely. However it should be discussed as it
> will also be very helpful for any new UA Ambassador joining.
>
> Regarding IAMAI event, though I was speaker there and found good awareness
> activity being done by every speaker around UASG and its issues. Some
> people may not be satisfied enough and believe more could have been done. I
> would agree, we can always improve.
>
> To bridge the gap, UASG leadership may consider inviting all UA
> ambassadors in at-least one of the ICANN in a year and now probably to the
> upcoming meet in ICANN 64 at Kobe (its focused on IDN) so that everyone can
> be able to present on what they have contributed individually and what was
> expected from them and also prepare them for one year.
>
> It would be my pleasure to talk to you, please let me know your skype,
> whatsapp or any other medium.
>
> Thanks,
> AM
> UA Ambassador to India
>
> Skype:- ashishmodi5
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* "William Donovan" <William.Donovan(a)techie.com> MailId :
> [87613749]
> *To:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *Cc:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
> *Date:* 01 Jan 2019 03:41:28 PM
>
> Hello Ram, Don and other community members
> Happy New Year. Year 2019 will be brining many vicissitudes in UASG as the
> tenure of chair Ram Mohan is on accomplishment and fresh being will take
> the chair to foster UASG mission accompanied by vice chairs and UA
> Ambassadors in near future. Formerly it transpire can we have momentary
> update of every distinct impact how they lead to achieve UASG mission. What
> if the future take of UASG as with existing small group of few UA
> Ambassadors out of whom merely few of them were really able to contribute
> what was really expected from them specifically the ASIA region team which
> has radically botched in conveying regarding which we all overheard
> abundant in Kobe for wastage of UASG funds with completely failed events
> held in India explicitly with IAMAI. What’s the new pipeline of fresh faces
> for UA Ambassadors and how soon UASG is adding them so that the mission of
> UASG can be achieved with quicker pace? Can we expect to hear on it during
> Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC programmed next
> week? William Donovan
>
>
>
> *Sent:* Friday, November 30, 2018 at 1:11 PM
> *From:* "Don Hollander" <don.hollander(a)icann.org>
> *To:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org>
> *Subject:* [UA-discuss] UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
>
> FYI:
>
> The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington
> DC from January 7 to January 9th.
>
>
>
> The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared.
>
>
>
> The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Plan
> particularly in light of the ICANN’s Board inclusion of Universal
> Acceptance in its strategic agenda.
>
>
>
> Like all our meetings, we’ll provide remote access.
>
>
>
> If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me
> know so that we can manage the logistics.
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Don Hollander
>
> Secretary General – UASG
>
> Skype: Don_Hollander
>
>
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by Nadira Anggora Jan. 4, 2019
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