Folks, Based on an analysis of messages, nameservers, domain names, it appears that the following accounts might be trolls: 1. William Donovan 2. Richard Marson 3. Danny Dong 4. Nadira Anggora 5. Diana Arteaga My intention is to declare these accounts persona-non-grata on all UASG lists at the end of the day today (i.e., in about 8 hours’ time), unless credible evidence points to the contrary. We will follow a similar process for any other accounts that exhibit similar characteristics. For reference, I have attached to this email the UASG Expected Standards of Behavior, published in 2016. Ram Chair, UASG
Prompted by Yuriʼs email I looked at the state of play with respect to Ukraineʼs cyrillic ccTLD .укр. It is probably 2/3 years since I last looked. I am most impressed😀 Googling on .укр I get 1420000 results which I think is really good. What I also found impressive is that for every single site on the first results page, none of them redirect to an ascii nor use frame redirects. The one thing I would like to change though is for those sites to use Ukrainian Cyrillic in the pathname part of the URL rather than romanised Ukrainian or English. It is easy enough to do this with aliasing ie alias Ukrainian Cyrillic names to ascii names for directories and files. Here are the sites for the my first page of results: https://корзина.укр<https://xn--80andgrdo.xn--j1amh> https://сервера.укр<https://xn--80adib7ccc.xn--j1amh> https://бензопила.укр<https://xn--80abmifsljj.xn--j1amh> https://рисуй.укр<https://xn--h1actfk.xn--j1amh> https://арома.укр<https://xn--80aa9ahj.xn--j1amh> https://лайнер.укр<https://xn--80aklgmt.xn--j1amh> https://світязь.укр<https://xn--b1ak2af5cq1c.xn--j1amh> https://казка.укр<https://xn--80aaukc.xn--j1amh> http://рибаківка.укр<http://xn--80aabf1aob6b7n.xn--j1amh> https://автокурсы.укр<https://xn--80aeyplgdk8e.xn--j1amh> Currently I have not gone beyond the first results page André Schappo On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:06, Yuriy Kargapolov <yvk@uanic.net<mailto:yvk@uanic.net>> wrote: + Ram, registrar = registrant = the similar for all this is the dns community, baby <smile005.png> especially if u see how suddenly the hype arose Yuri .УКР IDN ccTLD Friday, January 4, 2019, 5:39:02 PM, you wrote: Folks, Based on an analysis of messages, nameservers, domain names, it appears that the following accounts might be trolls: 1. William Donovan 2. Richard Marson 3. Danny Dong 4. Nadira Anggora 5. Diana Arteaga My intention is to declare these accounts persona-non-grata on all UASG lists at the end of the day today (i.e., in about 8 hours’ time), unless credible evidence points to the contrary. We will follow a similar process for any other accounts that exhibit similar characteristics. For reference, I have attached to this email the UASG Expected Standards of Behavior, published in 2016. Ram Chair, UASG <mailto:yvk@uanic.net>
Cool, good news From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Andre Schappo Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 09:59 To: Yuriy Kargapolov <yvk@uanic.net> Cc: UA-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] .УКР (was Trolls Beware) Prompted by Yuriʼs email I looked at the state of play with respect to Ukraineʼs cyrillic ccTLD .укр. It is probably 2/3 years since I last looked. I am most impressed😀 Googling on .укр I get 1420000 results which I think is really good. What I also found impressive is that for every single site on the first results page, none of them redirect to an ascii nor use frame redirects. The one thing I would like to change though is for those sites to use Ukrainian Cyrillic in the pathname part of the URL rather than romanised Ukrainian or English. It is easy enough to do this with aliasing ie alias Ukrainian Cyrillic names to ascii names for directories and files. Here are the sites for the my first page of results: https://корзина.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--80andgrdo.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858771095&sdata=QtV2XqhHfw1oqQnTNQymzgweNzoXNVwnmbQR9Dbwd1A%3D&reserved=0> https://сервера.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--80adib7ccc.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858781103&sdata=rF40nLs4oLB0YJig2T2uEyqFO6wooSqxxXadtZAv2U0%3D&reserved=0> https://бензопила.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--80abmifsljj.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858781103&sdata=GpJqM%2BeX0EuN7u9Gz1TI3Dvx3CXaMVQ1m7ReTREbNIk%3D&reserved=0> https://рисуй.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--h1actfk.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858791112&sdata=zOBvrtY2qCqp%2BYfJstXp27DGIGldPZ3Vp7ZuQNPYTyY%3D&reserved=0> https://арома.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--80aa9ahj.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858791112&sdata=ujZWOIcL%2FHk1BMn5etKiYjA6cPsaPXSFnGJFa5LUf80%3D&reserved=0> https://лайнер.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--80aklgmt.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858801120&sdata=clqQp5yJHEk%2FzFLxhoFCTeUFiNlqeKXAQQIbTEGBQZQ%3D&reserved=0> https://світязь.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--b1ak2af5cq1c.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858811128&sdata=hJ9TRUgC5zmZipd3H1CgPLods56FbPy8Z7b8mRMalSA%3D&reserved=0> https://казка.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--80aaukc.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858811128&sdata=%2Fc6IOMYkC1%2Fsf4kQmyksM5WeuVRWQThjy0Lt3W8m16c%3D&reserved=0> http://рибаківка.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fxn--80aabf1aob6b7n.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858821141&sdata=9bPom0U62ADmdk70iKS5ySMcBmp4QfwMvrDkPiSOWc4%3D&reserved=0> https://автокурсы.укр<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fxn--80aeyplgdk8e.xn--j1amh&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C45cab8fd4cdb48946b1a08d673e795f7%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636823835858821141&sdata=OdjdUBnToiO%2BrtCl2OLcVI1YRaO7TUEQbDgC3SylfDo%3D&reserved=0> Currently I have not gone beyond the first results page André Schappo On 4 Jan 2019, at 16:06, Yuriy Kargapolov <yvk@uanic.net<mailto:yvk@uanic.net>> wrote: + Ram, registrar = registrant = the similar for all this is the dns community, baby <smile005.png> especially if u see how suddenly the hype arose Yuri .УКР IDN ccTLD Friday, January 4, 2019, 5:39:02 PM, you wrote: Folks, Based on an analysis of messages, nameservers, domain names, it appears that the following accounts might be trolls: 1. William Donovan 2. Richard Marson 3. Danny Dong 4. Nadira Anggora 5. Diana Arteaga My intention is to declare these accounts persona-non-grata on all UASG lists at the end of the day today (i.e., in about 8 hours’ time), unless credible evidence points to the contrary. We will follow a similar process for any other accounts that exhibit similar characteristics. For reference, I have attached to this email the UASG Expected Standards of Behavior, published in 2016. Ram Chair, UASG
All, When I get messages from this list, the .УКР in the subject line does not come through; although it's fine in the body of the message. That was true for Andre's original message, although the "scam alert" is new in this iteration. Chinese and Arabic spammers that target me have no problem with subject lines in Chinese and Arabic, so I'm wondering whether it's something in the mail-list software used by ICANN. A./
Asmus, It comes through fine for me in the subject. tex From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Asmus Freytag Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 3:54 PM To: ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] .??? (was Trolls Beware) All, When I get messages from this list, the .УКР in the subject line does not come through; although it's fine in the body of the message. That was true for Andre's original message, although the "scam alert" is new in this iteration. Chinese and Arabic spammers that target me have no problem with subject lines in Chinese and Arabic, so I'm wondering whether it's something in the mail-list software used by ICANN. A./
Tex very nicely sent me a test message outside the list and after some more testing we can conclude that the most likely culprit is my AV software. A./ On 1/6/2019 3:54 PM, Asmus Freytag wrote:
All,
When I get messages from this list, the .УКР in the subject line does not come through; although it's fine in the body of the message. That was true for Andre's original message, although the "scam alert" is new in this iteration.
Chinese and Arabic spammers that target me have no problem with subject lines in Chinese and Arabic, so I'm wondering whether it's something in the mail-list software used by ICANN.
A./
In accordance with the UASG’s adopted Code of Conduct, the posting privileges to all UA lists are hereby terminated for the following accounts: 1. William Donovan 2. Richard Marson 3. Danny Dong 4. Nadira Anggora 5. Diana Arteaga Hasta la vista. Ram Mohan --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ram Mohan (o) +1.215.706.5700 x103 (m) +1.215.431.0958 (f) +1.215.706.5701 rmohan@afilias.info | Skype: gliderpilot30 | Twitter @rmohan123 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *From:* Ram Mohan <rmohan@afilias.info> *Sent:* Friday, January 4, 2019 10:39 AM *To:* UA-discuss@icann.org (UA-discuss@icann.org) <UA-discuss@icann.org> *Subject:* Trolls Beware Folks, Based on an analysis of messages, nameservers, domain names, it appears that the following accounts might be trolls: 1. William Donovan 2. Richard Marson 3. Danny Dong 4. Nadira Anggora 5. Diana Arteaga My intention is to declare these accounts persona-non-grata on all UASG lists at the end of the day today (i.e., in about 8 hours’ time), unless credible evidence points to the contrary. We will follow a similar process for any other accounts that exhibit similar characteristics. For reference, I have attached to this email the UASG Expected Standards of Behavior, published in 2016. Ram Chair, UASG
Thank you Ram. Keeping discussion professional and respectful is important to ensure that people continue to engage. cheers Chaals On Sat, 05 Jan 2019 01:29:46 +0100, Ram Mohan <rmohan@afilias.info> wrote:
In accordance with the UASG’s adopted Code of Conduct, the posting privileges to all UA lists are hereby terminated for the following
accounts:
William Donovan Richard Marson Danny Dong Nadira Anggora Diana Arteaga
Hasta la vista. Ram Mohan
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ram Mohan (o) +1.215.706.5700 x103 (m) +1.215.431.0958 (f) +1.215.706.5701 rmohan@afilias.info | Skype: gliderpilot30 | Twitter @rmohan123 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Ram Mohan <rmohan@afilias.info>Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 10:39 AM To: UA-discuss@icann.org (UA-discuss@icann.org) <UA-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Trolls Beware
Folks,
Based on an analysis of messages, nameservers, domain names, it appears that the following accounts might be trolls: William Donovan Richard Marson Danny Dong Nadira Anggora Diana Arteaga
My intention is to declare these accounts persona-non-grata on all UASG lists at the end of the day today (i.e., in about 8 hours’ time),
unless credible evidence points to the contrary. We will follow a similar process for any other accounts that exhibit similar characteristics.
For reference, I have attached to this email the UASG Expected Standards of Behavior, published in 2016.
Ram
Chair, UASG
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Andre Schappo -
Asmus Freytag -
Charles 'chaals' (McCathie) Nevile -
Mark Svancarek (CELA) -
Ram Mohan -
Tex -
William Donovan -
Yuriy Kargapolov