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Re : Re: revision on EAI update
by deepak March 30, 2017

March 30, 2017

Hi, Thanks for review. I am happy to update EAI table if You can provide the coremail EAI link where I can see EAI mailbox provisioning is available .Deepak Singhal From: "Jiankang Yao" MailId : [67699793]To: deepak ,ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] revision on EAI updateDate: 30 Mar 2017 11:11:58 AM thanks for the detailed structure . some information in this table is not new. for example, Coremail has already supported commerical EAI product . we need to confirm each entry before putting into uasg.tech . Jiankang Yao From: deepak Date: 2017-03-30 13:49 To: ua-discuss Subject: [UA-discuss] revision on EAI update Hello All,This can be detailed structure as Global EAI Status and may be it can go online on uasg.tech Company Product / Service Client or Server Commercial Available EAI MailBox Provider Protocol Supported for EAI EAI Mail Exchange Supported (SMTP ) Company / Product Website Microsoft Outlook 2016 for Windows Client YES N/A IMAP,POP3,SMTP N/A https://support.office.com Google GMail Server YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.gmail.com Apple Iphone Mail client Client YES N/A NO NO https://support.apple.com/mail BharatSync EAI mail for IoS Client YES N/A IMAP,SMTP NO https://itunes.apple.com/ Yandex Yandex (Russia) Server YES NO SMTP,webmail NO https://www.yandex.com/ Coremail Coremail (China) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO http://mail.chinacnd.com/ Data Xgen XgenPlus (India) Server YES YES IMAP,POP3,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.xgenplus.com/ Throughway Throughway (Thailand ) Server NO YES SMTP,webmail NO https://www.throughwave.co.th/ Saudi Network Information Centre SaudiNic Server NO YES N/A NO http://www.nic.sa/en/ OpenFind MailCloud Server NO YES SMTP,Webmail NO http://www.openfind.com/english/ Horde, LLC Horde Client YES N/A Webmail NO https://www.horde.org/ PostFix PostFix Server YES N/A SMTP YES http://www.postfix.org/ Spamjadoo Spamjadoo (antispam) Server YES N/A SMTP, WEB YES http://www.spamjadoo.com EXIM Exim Server NO NO SMTP YES http://www.eximin.net/ Sendmail Sendmail Server NO NO SMTP YES Data Xgen DatatMail (Android+IOS) Client YES YES IMAP,SMTP,webmail YES https://www.datamail.in/ BharatSync BharatSync Communicator (Android) Client YES NO IMAP,POP3,SMTP YES https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bharatsync.communicator Deepak Singhal [XGENFOOTER][-XGENFOOTER] Do not Remove:[HID]20170330104931708[-HID]

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Supporting EAI in HTML specification
by chaals＠yandex-team.ru March 29, 2017

March 29, 2017

Hi, we currently have two open issues on the HTML spec related to EAI: They both deal with the email input type - <input type="email"> which can validate an email address. The current rules for a valdi email address are based on ASCII only, https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/538 - allowing IDN support Our current proposal is to suggest more strongly that values entered or rendered be validated after conversion to punycode, file bugs on browsers since we didn't find any that do this already, and include it in a Proposed Recommendation (we are aiming at about one revision per year) when there are at least two browsers who implement it. https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/845 - support unicode in the "left hand side" - i.e. username Before this gets any traction there would need to be clear evidence that there is adoption in enough deployed email infrastructure to justify browsers sending out utf-8 user names with reasonable confidence that they will work. I welcome input from this group on both those issues - and on making the case with developers, etc, to provide support for both of these… cheers Chaals -- Charles McCathie Nevile - standards - Yandex chaals(a)yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com

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EAI Service Providers - My Update
by deepak March 28, 2017

March 28, 2017

Don and AndreList below need some MAJOR corrections for clear understanding.EAI Email Providers - would probably mean A company / product which can offer EAI mailbox on IDN domain. Not simply receiving or sending email to EAI. &bullMicrosoft - (you mean office365, its still not EAI provider, supports EAI) &bullGoogle - ( you mean gmail, and its still not EAI provider, supports EAI) &bullApple - ( apple do not offer EAI and iphone do not support configuration of EAI account, EAI Mail app on IOS does ) &bullYandex (Russia) - ( do not offer EAI ) &bullCoremail (China) - ( looks like you are testing it, however not yet available on their website commercially for public) &bullXgenPlus (India) - ( commercially available) &bullThroughway (Thailand) ( not aware, however their presentation shows they are using gmail as client to send and receive) &bullSaudiNic (Not aware) &bullOpenFind (Taiwan) - (on thier website https://www.mailcloud.com.tw/, they are not offering EAI (google search)) &bullHorde (USA) (https://www.horde.org/apps/webmail - its only webmail, need EAI server at backend like XGENPLUS) &bullPostFix (Global) - (PostFix is only MTA, neither has IMAP/POP/Webmail, so cant offer EAI without other supporting client) &bullAfilias ( dont know status - public information not available ) &bullExim ( just like postfix) &bullSendmail (just like postfix) So, EAI Service Providers are only few as of now i.e XgenPlus - Fully available Globally (not only in India) in public domain (free and paid), CoreMail and Throughway seems to be available in test mode. May be we create two lists,, 1) EAI Service Provider and 2) Products / Services Supporting EAIAlso include Android Phone Mail client and Microsoft Outlook 2016, which can allow configuration of EAI, if supported by EAI ready imap / smtp server. Please correct me if I am missing something.Deepak From: ua-discuss-request(a)icann.org MailId : [67637691]To: ua-discuss@icannorgSubject: UA-discuss Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21Date: 28 Mar 2017 05:30:21 PM Send UA-discuss mailing list submissions to ua-discuss(a)icann.orgTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussor, via email, send a message with subject or body `help` to ua-discuss-request(a)icann.orgYou can reach the person managing the list at ua-discuss-owner(a)icann.orgWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of UA-discuss digest..."Today`s Topics: 1. Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo) 2. test (Andre Schappo) 3. UASG Events coming up... (Don Hollander) 4. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Tan Tanaka, Dennis) 5. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 6. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Yaling Tan) 7. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 8. Re: [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Don Hollander) 9. Re: Current State of Play - Summary (Andre Schappo)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 13:54:12 +0000From: Andre Schappo To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)Notes:A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.....and onto something differentTomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.Andr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 2Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 15:58:19 +0000From: Andre Schappo To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: [UA-discuss] testMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"test because it appears email is not being distributed to this listAndr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 3Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:43:25 +0000From: Don Hollander To: ua-discuss Subject: [UA-discuss] UASG Events coming up...Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"There are several UA events coming up?In just a few hours at the WHD.Global (World Hosting Days) conference in Germany, there will be a Night Talk about Universal Acceptance.On April 11 &amp 12 in Redmond Washington there is a Face-to-Face meeting of the UASG Coordination group. (Program attached). These are public meetings and we?ll make them available through the Adobe Connect room, but if you?re in the neighbourhood please feel welcome to come and participate. Do please let me know in advance if you can for logistics.On April 11 at 6:00PM at the Seattle Marriott in Redmond we?ll be holding a reception and launch of the White Paper on Universal Acceptance. Again, all are welcome but do please let me know if you?ll be attending for catering purposes.On April 12 &amp 13 (starting at 13:00 on the 12th) there will be an EAI workshop. (Program attached). Again, this is a public event and we?ll make it available through the Adobe Connect room. But if you are planning on attending in person, please let me know for logistical purposes. 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On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" wrote: When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. ...and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. Andr? Schappo ------------------------------Message: 5Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:20:40 +0000From: Don Hollander To: Andre Schappo Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"Andre, et al?Here?s my list of folks that are working on this:EAI Email Providers?Microsoft ?Google ?Apple ?Yandex (Russia) ?Coremail (China) ?XgenPlus (India) ?Throughway (Thailand) ?SaudiNic ?OpenFind (Taiwan) ?Horde (USA) ?PostFix (Global)?Afilias?Exim?SendmailThe Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution.CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004)Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version.Don> On 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ...and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170327/a3c222fa/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170327/a3c222fa/smim… ------------------------------Message: 6Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 14:26:37 +0800From: Yaling Tan To: "Tan Tanaka, Dennis" Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset=gb2312Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.Sent from my iPad? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ???Nice work Andr?! On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" wrote: When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. ...and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. Andr? Schappo------------------------------Message: 7Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:42:55 +0000From: Don Hollander To: Yaling Tan Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"I thought TWNIC used OpenFind.Chinese E-mail ? Chiang > On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan wrote:> > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.> > Sent from my iPad> > ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss ???> > Nice work Andr?! > > On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ...and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> > > > > Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/234c1850/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/234c1850/smim… ------------------------------Message: 8Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:43:17 +0000From: Don Hollander To: Yaling Tan Cc: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [SPAM] Re: Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"I thought TWNIC used OpenFind.Chinese E-mail ? Chiang > On 28/03/2017, at 7:26 PM, Yaling Tan > wrote:> > Correct me if I am wrong, but I think TWNIC relies on Sendmail to realize EAI, whereas CNNIC relies on coremail to do so. And TWNIC is using traditional Chinese and CNNIC is using simplified Chinese.> > Sent from my iPad> > ? 2017?3?28????1:53?Tan Tanaka, Dennis via UA-discuss > ???> > Nice work Andr?! > > On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk > wrote:> > When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight> > ? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language> ? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese> ? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic> ? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)> ? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)> > Notes:> > A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.> > ..and onto something different> > Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.> > Andr? Schappo> > > > > Don HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/85cce0d8/atta… -------------- next part --------------A non-text attachment was scrubbed...Name: smime.p7sType: application/pkcs7-signatureSize: 3869 bytesDesc: not availableURL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/85cce0d8/smim… ------------------------------Message: 9Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 07:41:55 +0000From: Andre Schappo To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - SummaryMessage-ID: Content-Type: text/plain charset="utf-8"Thanks for that list Don. I will use it in my Digital Identities lecture which happens in ~5 hours time?Andr? SchappoOn 27 Mar 2017, at 19:20, Don Hollander > wrote:Andre, et al?Here?s my list of folks that are working on this:EAI Email Providers?Microsoft?Google?Apple?Yandex (Russia)?Coremail (China)?XgenPlus (India)?Throughway (Thailand)?SaudiNic?OpenFind (Taiwan)?Horde (USA)?PostFix (Global)?Afilias?Exim?SendmailThe Taiwan solution is provided by OpenFind. At the ccNSO meeting earlier this month we heard that registrants of idn.idn had a higher inclination to renew if they had access to an EAI solution.CNNIC - This may be the Coremail solution. We use Coremail to host our test accounts (uasg004)Outlook 2016 - at this point just the Windows version.DonOn 28/03/2017, at 2:54 AM, Andre Schappo > wrote:When I learned of TWNIC`s EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight.? DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language? TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese? Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic? CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese)? MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?)Notes:A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year.....and onto something differentTomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities.Andr? SchappoDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollander??????@??.??http://twitter.com/andreschappohttp://schappo.blogspot.co.ukhttp://weibo.com/andreschappo-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL: http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20170328/532935ff/atta… ------------------------------_______________________________________________UA-discuss mailing listUA-discuss@icann.orghttps://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discussEnd of UA-discuss Digest, Vol 27, Issue 21******************************************.Do not Remove:[HID]2017032817302058[-HID] [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER]

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Re: [UA-discuss] Current State of Play - Summary
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis March 28, 2017

March 28, 2017

Nice work André! On 3/27/17, 9:54 AM, "ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of Andre Schappo" <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of A.Schappo(a)lboro.ac.uk> wrote: When I learned of TWNIC's EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ① DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ② TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ③ Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ④ CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ⑤ MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. ...and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. André Schappo

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Current State of Play - Summary
by Andre Schappo March 28, 2017

March 28, 2017

When I learned of TWNIC's EAI work by listening to the ICANN conference I was definitely please to discover their EAI. At the same time I realised there are (huge) gaps in my UA knowledge. So, I decided to produce a brief summary of what I know. I am mainly considering UA enabled software and systems so UASG does not appear in my summary list even though it is a considerable accomplishment. Please do modify/amend/add to my summary list with your UA knowledge/Insight. ① DataMail - Production EAI system - multi-language ② TWNIC - Production EAI system - Taiwanese ③ Raseel Project, SA - Experimental EAI system - Arabic ④ CNNIC - (I am guessing Experimental EAI system and Chinese) ⑤ MS Outlook 2016 client (Windows only or OSX as well?) Notes: A few months ago I did informally contact some SMTP software developers/vendors and 2 of them did say they were working on upgrading their software to SMTPUTF8 and will be releasing during this year. ...and onto something different Tomorrow I will be giving a lecture to 2nd year students on digital identities. I will be encompassing UA, UASG, IDNs and EAI during my lecture. Many of you on this list have given such presentations. I will though be emphasising to the students that as future computer professionals it is their responsibility and duty to ensure internationalised digital identities, for people and things, become a reality. It is their responsibility and duty to ensure UA of internationalised digital identities. André Schappo

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UASG Events coming up...
by Don Hollander March 27, 2017

March 27, 2017

There are several UA events coming up… In just a few hours at the WHD.Global (World Hosting Days) conference in Germany, there will be a Night Talk about Universal Acceptance. On April 11 & 12 in Redmond Washington there is a Face-to-Face meeting of the UASG Coordination group. (Program attached). These are public meetings and we’ll make them available through the Adobe Connect room, but if you’re in the neighbourhood please feel welcome to come and participate. Do please let me know in advance if you can for logistics. On April 11 at 6:00PM at the Seattle Marriott in Redmond we’ll be holding a reception and launch of the White Paper on Universal Acceptance. Again, all are welcome but do please let me know if you’ll be attending for catering purposes. On April 12 & 13 (starting at 13:00 on the 12th) there will be an EAI workshop. (Program attached). Again, this is a public event and we’ll make it available through the Adobe Connect room. But if you are planning on attending in person, please let me know for logistical purposes. [A list of expected attendees is include in the program - so if you’re planning on being there and not on the list, please do let me know). These programs are also published on the UASG.tech home page (at the bottom). Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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by Andre Schappo March 27, 2017

March 27, 2017

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FYI, an IUC41 presentation proposal on UA
by Jim DeLaHunt March 27, 2017

March 27, 2017

Hello, UA colleagues: Two weeks ago we had a thread about my interest in seeing Universal Acceptance proposals submitted to the 41st Internationalization and Unicode Conference (IUC41). Based on that discussion, I am working on a proposal for a 50-minute presentation. I'd like to run these by you for your information. I appreciate any feedback you have. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *Presentation title*: Universal Acceptance of non-Latin email addresses and domain names: how does your framework rate? *Abstract*: The next one billion internet users use a wide variety of languages and scripts. They will demand email addresses, and domain names, in scripts they can easily read. App development frameworks, libraries, and programming languages on all platforms will be called on to meet this challenge. This is Universal Acceptance (UA) — of all domain names and email addresses, from http://普遍接受-测试。世界 [simplifed Chinese] to مانيش @ أشوكا. الهند [arabic] to données(a)fussballplatz.technology [latin non-ASCII]. We present technical compliance criteria, a list of problem areas, and ways to evaluate compliance. We give our compliance findings so far. Does your library and platform provide Universal Acceptance? Universal Acceptance is a foundational requirement for a truly multilingual Internet, one in which users around the world can navigate entirely in local languages. It is also the key to unlocking the potential of new generic top-level domains (gTLDs) to foster competition, consumer choice and innovation in the domain name industry. To achieve Universal Acceptance, Internet applications and systems must treat all TLDs in a consistent manner, including new gTLDs and internationalized TLDs. Specifically, they must accept, validate, store, process and display all domain names and email addresses. This talk presents a compliance review plan, for the programming languages and frameworks with which applications are built. It has a list of UA features to check, and gives reference correct results. Application developers can use these tests to be sure the tools they use afford Universal Acceptance. Framework developers can use these tests to be sure that they provide access to the right scope of Universal Acceptance functionality, and that it works well. There is a complementary compliance review plan of application features, which we will also look at. This compliance review plan are the work of the Universal Acceptance Steering Group (https://uasg.tech/) An ICANN project, the UASG is a community-based team working to share this vision for the Internet of the future with those who construct this space: coders. The group’s primary objective is to help software developers and website owners understand how to update their systems to keep pace with an evolving domain name system (DNS). The UASG has done its own compliance evaluation for selected frameworks and programming languages. We will go over these results. This talk is complementary with Dr Ajay Data's presentation on Data Xgen's experience developing email services with non-Latin email addresses and domain names. This talk is suitable for product owners, application developers, programming language and framework developers, testers, domain registars, email hosting companies, management, and developers. Plus, anyone who looks forward to using email addresses and domain names in non-Latin scripts will find this evaluation of interest. [Note: I plan to base this mainly on the contents of "Reviewing programming languages and frameworks for compliance with Universal Acceptance good practice"] *Ram and other leaders*: Is it all right for me to identify myself as a member of UASG, and this talk as being a UASG presentation, and use the UASG templates? I don't mind just proposing an individual talk, but I think having the UASG branding would be stronger. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am also working on a proposal for a 1.5 hour tutorial. *Tutorial Title*: Domain names and email addresses aren't just ASCII anymore. Now what? *Tutorial Concept*: Explain IDN and EAI, and their implications, for an audience that doesn't know either. The next billion internet users. Explain Punycode and how it's the ASCII labels that are registered. Show the thousands of gTLDs, and how to get the current list. Talk about policy issues like joint registration. Talk about confusables, as a security issue and a trademark issue. Introduce UASG and other groups working on these issues. Review the portfolio of UASG materials and how participants can apply them, both to the software they developed, and to that they procure. I think the tutorial extends beyond UASG, so I'm leaning towards presenting it as an individual tutorial. N.B. It's my practice to freely licence my presentation materials with CC-BY, so they will be available for others to re-use. Also, as alluded to above, I understand that Dr Ajay Data has proposed a presentation on Data Xgen's experience developing email services with non-Latin email addresses and domain names. I think this will be interesting by itself, and even better in combination with the UASG material in my proposal. Who knows whether the program committee will accept any of these proposals? They will give us their answer towards the end of April. One final reminder: if anyone else wants to propose a talk, 24. March is the deadline! Details at <http://www.unicodeconference.org/call-for-participation.htm>. Once again, your feedback is welcome. Best regards, --Jim DeLaHunt -- --Jim DeLaHunt, jdlh(a)jdlh.com http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/) multilingual websites consultant 355-1027 Davie St, Vancouver BC V6E 4L2, Canada Canada mobile +1-604-376-8953

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Fw: [saag] encrypted files with UTF-8/16 passwords
by nalini.elkins＠insidethestack.com March 24, 2017

March 24, 2017

This may be of interest to UASG. Thanks, Nalini Elkins CEO and Founder Inside Products, Inc. www.insidethestack.com (831) 659-8360 --- On Fri, 3/24/17, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos <n.mavrogiannopoulos(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [saag] encrypted files with UTF-8/16 passwords > To: "IETF SAAG" <saag(a)ietf.org> > Cc: mnystrom(a)microsoft.com, Kathleen.Moriarty(a)emc.com, bkaliski(a)verisign.com > Date: Friday, March 24, 2017, 1:07 AM > Hi, > PKCS#8 (rfc8018) and PKCS#12 (rfc7292) > can be used to encrypt keys > and certificates with a password. In > the first case, PKCS#8 utilizes > PKCS#5 for converting a password to an > encryption key, and PKCS#5 > requires a password to be in UTF-8. For > PKCS#12, a password is input > in UTF-16 format (mentioned as > BMPString in the document) in some > preset schemes, but uses UTF-8 for > newer schemes like AES via PKCS#5. > > However, UTF-8 (and UTF-16) are > ambiguous. The same string may have > multiple representations, and for that, > there are some guidelines in > RFC7613 to prepare a unicode string for > a password, but they do not > update either of these documents. > > Given that these are informational > RFCs, which would be the proper > method to propose an update on them > based on these lines and requiring > RFC7613 processing for passwords > entered in UTF-8? > > regards, > Nikos > > _______________________________________________ > saag mailing list > saag(a)ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/saag >

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Programming Language Evaluation Criteria - Final Comment Period
by Don Hollander March 23, 2017

March 23, 2017

The Programming Language Evaluation Criteria is in its final review phase. We would like to get this work finalised. Latest version is at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume… <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_docume…> Can you please make comments, ideally within the document, by the 5th of April. Thanks. Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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