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Re: [UA-discuss] numbers as authenticaion ID
by Tex Texin Oct. 20, 2017

Oct. 20, 2017

Ajay, ok I misunderstood when you asked “do you think its also idea worth exploring in EAI and IDN`s to also map them with numerical ID”. I thought this meant you wanted to use digits there. The table doesn’t show that the # of phones to population is 96%, since people that have phones may have more than one number. The page indicates for china the near 100% is actually 60% of the population. Regardless, the number is much higher than I expected. A few years ago, I attended a meeting with the IT minister who was discussing the problems of getting information to the population in the event of a disaster, and she said there was a significant portion of the population without phones and without the computer or language literacy to use a phone. Perhaps things have improved considerably since then. It was several years ago. Anyway, I am unclear on your proposal. Are you looking to map domain names to digits? Like a punycode that generates only digits instead of ascii? I think the comments I made still apply and in addition there is a likelihood of the longer numeric strings exceeding what the standards allow. But maybe you meant something else? Tex From: Ajay DATA [mailto:ajay@data.in] Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 9:50 PM To: textexin(a)xencraft.com; ua-discuss(a)icann.org Subject: RE: [UA-discuss] numbers as authenticaion ID Thank you for detailed reply. As I mentioned that the numbers were used only for login and uses tamil ID to send and receive email automatically. We r not giving 9988@domain as email id. If there are multiple IDs linked with one mobile number than with OTP verification he is given choice to select the ID user wishes to use login into the mailbox. In this case, Let me be also specific in saying that numbers means Mobile number to ensure uniqueness and verifications. Also Tex, 96.40 percent of India's population uses mobile phones. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_mobile_phone… Best Wishes Ajay Data On 20 October 2017 01:35:56 GMT+05:30, Tex Texin <textexin(a)xencraft.com> wrote: Because names and other personal data (eg postal address) are not unique and can be spelled in many different ways, I often suggest that it is better for applications to use phone numbers for searching for an individual. These days almost everyone (above a certain poverty level) has a cell phone and therefore a unique number. However, in many countries, and I thought India was one, not everyone has a phone. Also, people want to have more than one mail address to have for different purposes or to limit who can reach them or when they can be reached, etc. Using a phone number might make it easier for spammers to guess how they can reach individuals because (most) phone numbers are public. Using all digits might also make it likely that typos or transpositions would send confidential mail to the wrong person, whereas the larger space of alphabetic emails makes it more likely that the erroneous mail id is unused. Phone numbers also get reassigned to other users when someone gives a number up, so that could mean a change in carriers or other event causing you to change numbers would drive changing your email, which is a hassle. Digits are easy to type but hard to remember for people that call you. Especially 10 or so digits. I can tell you email me at tex(a)google.com and you would remember it, but 1234567890(a)google.com would need to be written down or otherwise communicated. Nevertheless for people that have trouble with alphabetics (typing or other issues) digits can be effective. It may need to be telephone plus other digits that are less prescribed (birthday, postal code, or users random choice) However, the individual you describe will still have trouble typing in other people’s email addresses and domain names. And he doesn’t have to type his own email as often as that of others. (from fields are usually auto-filled) So digits may not be a solution for his real problem. For the situation you describe, I wonder if a better solution is to create an input method that maps digits or other key presses to type tamil more easily. Or perhaps offer more of a wizard for typing tamil coupled with more predictive typing and data entry. That may also help him with typing the contents of his email since he or she will still have trouble entering tamil content. Hth Tex From: ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Dr Ajay Data Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:13 PM To: ua-discuss(a)icann.org Subject: [UA-discuss] numbers as authenticaion ID Dear Friend, I would like to present a situation where a person- do not know English at all. do know little bit of writing in Tamil language do know very well to read Tamil language can read write and understands all the 0-9 numbers. While he was using Tamil ID, he complained multiple times as he could not type his email ID very well every time and made mistake most of the time he tried to login. We did innovation there and gave him his mobile number as a login ID and numbers as password. Since than he do not have any complaint. Obviously his email remained same. With this kind of case and result, do you think its also idea worth exploring in EAI and IDN`s to also map them with numerical ID and this can also eliminate need of UTF related checks on the login webpage. Just a food for though to get negative/positive feedback`s, ideas and suggestions. I would be also happy to know if we can think the problems may occur and may see roadblocks. Thank you. Dr. Ajay DATA | Founder & CEO Get email id like <mailto:???@????.????> अजय(a)xn--c2bd1gb.xn--h2brj9c in your own language, visit <http://www.xgenplus.com/> www.xgenplus.com Do not Remove: [HID]20171020004317215[-HID] <https://data.in/XGenPlusMessageID:1508440397137587a-#RCPT#.jpg> <http://dlr.tbms.in:8077/XET33204:201710.jpg> -- Sent from my Android device with BharatSync Communicator.

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numbers as authenticaion ID
by Dr Ajay Data Oct. 20, 2017

Oct. 20, 2017

Dear Friend, I would like to present a situation wherea person- do not know English at all.do know little bit of writing in Tamil languagedo know very well to read Tamil language can read write and understands all the 0-9 numbers . While he was using Tamil ID, he complained multiple times as he could not type his email ID very well every time and made mistake most of the time he tried to login.We did innovation there and gave him his mobile number as a login ID and numbers as password. Since than he do not have any complaint. Obviously his email remained same. With this kind of case and result, do you think its also idea worth exploring in EAI and IDN`s to also map them with numerical ID and this can also eliminate need of UTF related checks on the login webpage. Just a food for though to get negative/positive feedback`s, ideas and suggestions. I would be also happy to know if we can think the problems may occur and may see roadblocks. Thank you. Dr. Ajay DATA | Founder &amp CEO Get email id like अजय(a)xn--c2bd1gb.xn--h2brj9c in your own language,visit www.xgenplus.com Do not Remove: [HID]20171020004317215[-HID]

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Happy Diwali
by Dr Ajay Data Oct. 19, 2017

Oct. 19, 2017

Dear Friends, While we celebrate Diwali, which is India`s largest festival of light, which coincides with the Hindu New Year, celebrates new beginnings and the triumph of good over evil and light over darkness.Myself, family and team members wishes all of you abundance of happiness and success. Best Wishes. Dr. Ajay DATA | Founder &amp CEO Get email id like अजय(a)xn--c2bd1gb.xn--h2brj9c in your own language,visit www.xgenplus.com Do not Remove: [HID]20171019225529787[-HID]

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CIO Executive Council Broccoli Issues Webinar starting shortly: https://cioec.adobeconnect.com/univaccept/
by Don Hollander Oct. 19, 2017

Oct. 19, 2017

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UASG Status Report for #ICANN60
by Don Hollander Oct. 18, 2017

Oct. 18, 2017

Attached is a Status Report of what’s happened in the UASG since ICANN58 and what’s happening going into ICANN60. Please do read it and please do share it with your own networks. And as a bit of trivia, we currently have more than 270 subscribers to the UA-DIscuss list from more than 150 organisations - with a growing number from outside the traditional ICANN community. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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Preliminary Slide Decks - ICANN60 meeting
by Don Hollander Oct. 18, 2017

Oct. 18, 2017

There are previews of the slide decks to be used at the ICANN60 meeting available at https://uasg.tech/ua-presentations/ <https://uasg.tech/ua-presentations/> Please note: a) These are subject to change and b) additional slide decks will be added as they become ready. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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https://council.cio.com/webinars/domain-name-ua/
by Don Hollander Oct. 17, 2017

Oct. 17, 2017

Just a reminder that the short Webinar will address the Business case for UA as well as IPv6 and DNSSEC is coming up soon. Please register to attend ‘in person' Featuring our Chair Ram Mohan. D Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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Any published programming language & framework reports from UASG0018?
by Jim DeLaHunt Oct. 15, 2017

Oct. 15, 2017

Hello, all: I am building up a presentation based on UASG0018, /Reviewing programming languages and frameworks for // //compliance with Universal Acceptance good practice/. The note itself is good material. I'm also finding UASG0004, /Use Cases for UA Readiness Evaluation/, helpful. What would be really great are some actual published library evaluation reports based on UASG0018. I can't find any in the places I'm looking on uasg.tech and in my us-discuss email archives. Have any such reports been published? Or, are there any unpublished reports which are solid enough technically for me to excerpt from? Thank you, —Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, Canada -- --Jim DeLaHunt, jdlh(a)jdlh.com http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/) multilingual websites consultant 355-1027 Davie St, Vancouver BC V6E 4L2, Canada Canada mobile +1-604-376-8953

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UA Issue Logging Report
by Don Hollander Oct. 13, 2017

Oct. 13, 2017

The latest version of this report has been published https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/UASG_Issue-logging_report_Upda… <https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/UASG_Issue-logging_report_Upda…> (and attached) Background: Since just after the ICANN meeting in India last year, we have operated, through ICANN’s Global Support team, a facility where people can log a non-UA compliant experience and we then record it and reach out to the relevant website to raise awareness. There has been some progress, including a significant regional airline in the United States that has worked to make their systems more UA Ready. Thanks again to the ICANN teams- the Global Support Centre for recording the issues and pursuing resolution and the GDD Comms group for preparing the report presentation. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander

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Re : Programming Language Hacks
by Dr. AJAY D A T A Oct. 12, 2017

Oct. 12, 2017

Thank you Don the document looks good. It may be also good idea to add "local script" like "hindi" in examples tables to make it relevant for local audience. Hope you will be fine with that. We have referenced "the entire TLD length is less than 253 characters" . Is it a good idea to also mention :-The format of email addresses is local-part@domain where the local-part may be up to 64 characters long and the domain name may have a maximum of 253 characters - but the maximum 256 characters length of a forward or reverse path restricts the entire email address to be no more than 254 characters. --------reference point for UASG-------- RFC 5321 4.5.3.1.1. Local-part The maximum total length of a user name or other local-part is 64 octets . 4.5.3.1.2. Domain The maximum total length of a domain name or number is 255 octets . 4.5.3.1.3. Path The maximum total length of a reverse-path or forward-path is 256 octets (including the punctuation and element separators).----------- end of reference--------The above will also not suffice as Unicode email addresses will have different length. Since the maximum byte length of characters is 4 in UTF-8, it may be a good idea to multiply above limits by 4 and than use it to avoid breaks and broken users experience. Thanks Dr. Ajay DATA | Founder &amp CEO Get email id like अजय(a)xn--c2bd1gb.xn--h2brj9c in your own language,visit www.xgenplus.com From: Don Hollander MailId : [74549175]To: Universal Acceptance Subject: [UA-discuss] Programming Language HacksDate: 12 Oct 2017 12:41:21 AM We&rsquove just finished the third of our Guest Editorials . We call it UA103 - Programming Language Hacks .We&rsquove designed this (and UA101 &amp UA102) so that YOU can take them and modify for your local (geographic or professional or industry) community and get them published - either under your name, my name, or anonymously . (Our preference is to have your name so that it better resonates with your local community)And this is what it looks like in New Zealand . https://techblog .nz/1384-Programming-Language-Hacks DonDon HollanderUniversal Acceptance Steering GroupSkype: don_hollanderWe&rsquove just finished the third of our Guest Editorials . We call it UA103 - Programming Language Hacks . We&rsquove designed this (and UA101 &amp UA102) so that YOU can take them and modify for your local (geographic or professional or industry) community and get them published - either under your name, my name, or anonymously. (Our preference is to have your name so that it better resonates with your local community) And this is what it looks like in New Zealand. https://techblog.nz/1384-Programming-Language-Hacks Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group Skype: don_hollander Do not Remove:[HID]2017101200412123[-HID]

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