April 2019 - UA-discuss - lists.iana.org

interesting to note about emoji in mailbox name.
by Dr Ajay Data April 17, 2019

April 17, 2019

Some Interesting things to note:I am testing with Two working Valid Email Address with heart shape..❤(a)data.in and &hearts(a)data.in ( ❤ - xn--qei and &hearts - xn--g6h )When I receive email from the above ID`s, In mobile devices these above hearts are shown in different red shades. However If I send email to Gmail / Outlook, they consider this as Spam. Not only spam, Gmail displays the following warning. - This message seems dangerous The sender&rsquos email address uses abnormal characters, which might be used to spoof real addresses. Avoid clicking links, downloading attachments, or replying to this message.Probably, we need to discuss this too and have our views around it. Dr. Ajay DataFounder &amp CEO [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER] Do not Remove: [HID]20190411124031186[-HID]

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Re: [UA-discuss] Updated UASG011 FAQ Document Revision, April 2019
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis April 16, 2019

April 16, 2019

Jessica, Thanks for sharing. Looking through the lens of the audience “with limited to no knowledge of UA” I believe this serves as a good primer. I did have some comments/edits for your consideration which are in-doc. Best, Dennis From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of "Ranftl, Jessica" <Jessica.Ranftl(a)edelman.com> Date: Monday, April 15, 2019 at 5:39 PM To: "UA-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Cc: "@UASG Team" <UASGTeam(a)edelman.com> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [UA-discuss] Updated UASG011 FAQ Document Revision, April 2019 Hello everyone, For visibility, attached is the updated UASG011, FAQ document. We took into consideration feedback from the UASG Comms group to shorten responses, use more understandable language and incorporate recent statistics and data points. It is worth noting that this document is not intended to have comprehensive messaging for every UASG audience – instead, it is geared toward an audience with limited to no knowledge of UA, such as reporters, with the goal of providing a concise, understandable overview of what UA is and why it matters. If you have questions or concerns, please let us know. Jessica Ranftl | Edelman Seattle 1601 5th Avenue, 24th Floor Seattle, WA 98101 Office: 206.664.8639 Mobile: 206-693-8134

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Updated UASG011 FAQ Document Revision, April 2019
by Ranftl, Jessica April 15, 2019

April 15, 2019

Hello everyone, For visibility, attached is the updated UASG011, FAQ document. We took into consideration feedback from the UASG Comms group to shorten responses, use more understandable language and incorporate recent statistics and data points. It is worth noting that this document is not intended to have comprehensive messaging for every UASG audience - instead, it is geared toward an audience with limited to no knowledge of UA, such as reporters, with the goal of providing a concise, understandable overview of what UA is and why it matters. If you have questions or concerns, please let us know. Jessica Ranftl | Edelman Seattle 1601 5th Avenue, 24th Floor Seattle, WA 98101 Office: 206.664.8639 Mobile: 206-693-8134

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Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox name.
by Dr Ajay Data April 15, 2019

April 15, 2019

Emoji in Email address example is neither part of IDN nor DNS. Here it is part of mailbox name. My idea of sharing is that Google and office365 receives email successfully from email address where mailbox contains emoji, outlook deals it just like normal email and gmail shows it dangerous. Dr. Ajay DataFounder &amp CEO From: Lars Steffen MailId : [90320017]To: Dr Ajay Data ,universal access Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox name.Date: 11 Apr 2019 05:19:02 PM May I quote from the 2 March 2018: ..what we agreed to is that emojis are not part of the current standard for IDN/DNS. As such it is out of scope for UASG. Lars Von: UA-discuss im Auftrag von Dr Ajay Data Datum: Donnerstag, 11. April 2019 um 09:10 An: universal access Betreff: [UA-discuss] interesting to note about emoji in mailbox name . Some Interesting things to note: I am testing with Two working Valid Email Address with heart shape. ❤(a)data.in and &hearts(a)data.in ( ❤ - xn--qei and &hearts - xn--g6h ) When I receive email from the above ID`s, In mobile devices these above hearts are shown in different red shades. However If I send email to Gmail / Outlook, they consider this as Spam. Not only spam, Gmail displays the following warning. - This message seems dangerous The sender&rsquos email address uses abnormal characters, which might be used to spoof real addresses. Avoid clicking links, downloading attachments, or replying to this message. Probably, we need to discuss this too and have our views around it. Dr. Ajay Data Founder &amp CEO [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER] Do not Remove: [HID]20190411124031186[-HID]

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Re: [UA-discuss] Understanding the world of developers - Stack Overflow 2019 Survey
by Tan Tanaka, Dennis April 15, 2019

April 15, 2019

Agreed. Interesting insights. Thanks for sharing, Jothan. From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org> Date: Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 5:53 AM To: Jothan Frakes <jothan(a)gmail.com>, "UA-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [UA-discuss] Understanding the world of developers - Stack Overflow 2019 Survey Jothan Thanks very much for this. Useful indeed. Don From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org> On Behalf Of Jothan Frakes Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2019 10:33 AM To: UA-discuss(a)icann.org Subject: [UA-discuss] Understanding the world of developers - Stack Overflow 2019 Survey As we embark on our efforts with UA (Acceptance / Awareness) it is important to understand the developer mind, and the environment that exists beyond the "ICANN-o-Sphere". Good news! Stack Overflow, a community forum of developers that help one another with q&a, have released survey results from their most recent global user poll. https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019 We often misunderstand the world of the developers and the development and integration realm that our domain name _stuff_ enables, interacts with, and provides platform for. One of the biggest areas of feedback that I receive in discussions within developer communities is that the "domain companies and ICANN people (I think they more mean the community more than org)" are super disconnected from their realities. The feedback is that there is not a 'developer stakeholder group' within ICANN, and that there seems within the ICANN community, that the protracted bureaucratic nature of getting things done is difficult to get support from pragmatic management to remedy within their companies, and that there is an [false] assumption that the IETF is representative of the overall global community of developers, their goals, attitudes, preferences and objectives. As we approach the UA objectives with developers, understanding their universe will provide us good emotional intelligence about approaching the discussions. Where I have successes in communicating the importance of enabling and integrating UA into the design and development process is where I demonstrate empathy for the problems that face the people that I communicate the concepts with. Taking some time to look through the survey can help, and it is a quick read. -Jothan Jothan Frakes +1.206-355-0230 tel +1.206-201-6881 fax

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Understanding the world of developers - Stack Overflow 2019 Survey
by Jothan Frakes April 14, 2019

April 14, 2019

As we embark on our efforts with UA (Acceptance / Awareness) it is important to understand the developer mind, and the environment that exists beyond the "ICANN-o-Sphere". Good news! Stack Overflow, a community forum of developers that help one another with q&a, have released survey results from their most recent global user poll. https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019 We often misunderstand the world of the developers and the development and integration realm that our domain name _stuff_ enables, interacts with, and provides platform for. One of the biggest areas of feedback that I receive in discussions within developer communities is that the "domain companies and ICANN people (I think they more mean the community more than org)" are super disconnected from their realities. The feedback is that there is not a 'developer stakeholder group' within ICANN, and that there seems within the ICANN community, that the protracted bureaucratic nature of getting things done is difficult to get support from pragmatic management to remedy within their companies, and that there is an [false] assumption that the IETF is representative of the overall global community of developers, their goals, attitudes, preferences and objectives. As we approach the UA objectives with developers, understanding their universe will provide us good emotional intelligence about approaching the discussions. Where I have successes in communicating the importance of enabling and integrating UA into the design and development process is where I demonstrate empathy for the problems that face the people that I communicate the concepts with. Taking some time to look through the survey can help, and it is a quick read. -Jothan Jothan Frakes +1.206-355-0230 tel +1.206-201-6881 fax

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Document Reviews - April
by Don Hollander April 8, 2019

April 8, 2019

An update on document reviews currently underway: UASG004 - We're working to re-home to landing pages for the example domain names and make sure that some additional name characteristics are registered. I'm expecting this to be done by early May. UASG005 - Quick Guide - We have received comments from the community and this is with the authors to finish this work. I'm hoping that this will be ready by the 15th of this month, but there is still formatting and translation work to happen once the text is completed. UASG011 - FAQs - This is being revised and I expect to put it out for comments later this month. UASG007 - Introduction - Deadline for suggestions to the table of contents is tomorrow. Once those are received they'll be considered and then the writing will begin. I would like to consider whether any changes are needed to the following documents: Webmaster Engagement Letter https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/UASG002-Webmaster-Engagement-N… UA & Local Engagement (This document provides a model for establishing local initiatives) https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/UA008-UA-Local-Engagement-v1.p… Knowledge base of contacts for browsers - https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/UA001-v2015040-UA-Knowledge-Ba… List of relevant RFCs (and other standards) https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/UA006-Relevant-RFCs.pdf We'll also review this after the completion of UASG007 Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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Review of UASG007 - Introduction to Universal Acceptance
by Don Hollander April 8, 2019

April 8, 2019

Dear all: We are about to begin the review and revision of UASG007 - Introduction to Universal Acceptance. This document, along with UASG005, was removed from the website in mid-January when, during a scheduled review, we identified that there were aspects within it that were wrong. Please see https://docs.google.com/document/d/11SX7DXpIrT2LJ8sx87idqldtn9URESwgWy77JRv… for a working paper to develop a Table of Contents. Would you please review this and consider aspects that you think will be useful for inclusion. We will, for example, include either within UASG007 or as a separate document, a Frequently Asked Technical Questions document. Comments by the 9th of April, please. Thank you. Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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Re: [UA-discuss] ICANN64
by Patrick Patrick Davison April 8, 2019

April 8, 2019

Danny I am not scared of what you try to highlight if things in UASG are happening in such manner I think I will not remain a community member in such a group. I am surprised with things which you have shared. Time will prove how correct you were I will just wait and see for some time. Patrick On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 11:02 AM Danny Dong <dannydong(a)tech-center.com> wrote: > Patrick > > You guys are thinking too much and actually you all have too much > expectation from new UASG administrative group, I pray you all don’t get > hurt later when they all also treat you and mike also as trolls as ram did > in past for many of us when we raised this issue initially during F2F. > > Trust me nothing will change in UASG as UAA program is totally > non-transparent and just to pass benefit to few selected individuals of > their choice. You know who is Ashish Modi check this > https://www.xgenplus.com/our-team/, hope after this you will sense that > why even after so much voice on UAA program why nothing was taken seriously > by past and present chair. The appointments of all old UA ambassadors was > for one year which is already over few months back do you hear any > announcement after that? No you will not. So don’t become another victim as > no one will listen here. > > Danny > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:54 AM Patrick Patrick Davison < > patrickdavisons(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello Mike >> Awkwardly no, I am not naming myself for UAA ? Universal Acceptance >> Ambassador >> >> I be ascertain of do present charter of UASG allow us to designated names >> for UAA? As in past also all people who were appointed was a sole decision >> of UASG administrative group and no proposals or endorsements were taken >> from UASG community. >> >> I agree that it’s commendable about Aj who progressed toward becoming >> Chair. It would be decent for us to see update each month from his >> leadership team however as mentioned in formerly that past appointments of >> UAA Universal Acceptance Ambassador term is already pass away so without >> being prejudiced about few individuals, UASG administrative group must >> appoint new UAA who have already shown their interest in past, if they want >> community to contribute and help is choosing right UAA they must amend >> their present charter and seek support community members. >> >> Yes Aj has noteworthy remarks about his enthusiasm for UA and working >> with groups so I look forward for his similar approach in taking quick >> decisions which will be transparent and in interest of UASG. >> >> Patrick >> >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 8:43 PM Mike Hemp <mikehamp1971(a)mail.com> wrote: >> >>> Patrick >>> >>> Are you naming yourself for UAA ? Universal Acceptance Ambassador >>> >>> Do you have names to be designated as UAA ? >>> >>> Incredible that Aj has progressed toward becoming Chair. It would be >>> decent for us to see update each month from leadership and from ambassadors. >>> >>> Aj, I heard noteworthy remarks about your enthusiasm for UA and working >>> with groups. It would be pleasant chance that you could include a few of us >>> into this , its locale which will make it successful. >>> >>> Anticipating to get notification from you. >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2019 at 3:25 PM >>> *From:* "Patrick Patrick Davison" <patrickdavisons(a)gmail.com> >>> *To:* "Mark Svancarek (CELA)" <marksv(a)microsoft.com> >>> *Cc:* "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org> >>> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] ICANN64 >>> >>> Hello Mark >>> >>> Virtuous to see your response, well I am no one to submit any >>> suggestions for ambassadors. UA ambassador’s appointment was sole decision >>> of administrative group and no one asked from community members who should >>> be considered. There was just one email to us about selected ambassadors >>> who were appointed for one year. >>> >>> I strappingly have faith that candidates willing for the position must >>> have applied in last one year and UASG secretariat must be having the >>> details of them which they can share with administrative group. Once you >>> all have the information your administrative group can set some selection >>> standards and ask secretariat to filter out the new candidates from it. As >>> a community members and believer is UASG mission I would only suggest that >>> candidates who can really contribute in the mission must be given chance. >>> >>> Since the terms of earlier appointed UA Ambassadors is already over even >>> before ICANN64 and we still have names on website of old ambassadors whose >>> terms has already expired and who at present do not hold that position. So >>> pronouncement for new UA ambassadors should not be deferred. >>> >>> Cheers!!!! >>> >>> Patrick >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 6:23 PM Mark Svancarek (CELA) < >>> marksv(a)microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Feel free to submit your suggestions for ambassadors. No need to wait. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Patrick >>>> Patrick Davison >>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 25, 2019 12:26 >>>> *To:* ua-discuss(a)icann.org; don.hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] ICANN64 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> Last week I shared below piece of information with newly appointed >>>> Administrative Group but look like I am just overhear. So sharing again >>>> with all in community. Also beside all other points startlingly inspite >>>> knowing the fact that the terms of earlier appointed UA Ambassadors is >>>> already over even before ICANN64 still no pronouncement were been made for >>>> new UA ambassadors during ICANN64 or later. I am surprised don’t we have >>>> nominations or interest submitted by peoples around the world during last >>>> one year who can be considered. >>>> >>>> Cheers !!!! >>>> >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 1:23 AM Patrick Patrick Davison < >>>> patrickdavisons(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> Prodigious meeting all again during ICANN and enthusiastic to see the >>>> focus of universal acceptance universally in all groups in Kobe and also in >>>> ICANN. >>>> >>>> Further down are my observations on UASG in ICANN64 which i giving you >>>> all as food for thoughts. >>>> >>>> · Universal acceptance group exertions are now building shape. >>>> >>>> · Ram with administrative group members have put a strong >>>> foundation and given strong beliefs for UASG among all already. >>>> >>>> · Community have lots of expectations from newly elected Chair >>>> and vice chairs. >>>> >>>> · Issues raised for Universal acceptance program during public >>>> forums were disastrous yet new administrative group must seriously address >>>> it. >>>> >>>> · It’s fortunate that term for earlier elected UA Ambassadors >>>> is already over few month back so they must be quickly dropped to preserve >>>> civic credence. >>>> >>>> · We already have few newly elected UA Ambassadors now in team >>>> to take over and if we have pending applications they must be given chance >>>> quickly. >>>> >>>> · As per UASG community update counties to be precise China, >>>> UAE, India and Russia should we key focus areas so we should have new faces >>>> as UA Ambassadors in this region who can deliver UASG mission. >>>> >>>> · Persons vetoed by community should be kept away from any >>>> auxiliary selections. Earlier we heard a lot for Mr. Modi as Indian Prime >>>> minister and now in ICANN for a UA Ambassadors, terrible and sad for UASG. >>>> We should not show any nepotism towards anyone. >>>> >>>> · UASG available documents must be reviewed and updated to help >>>> community members >>>> >>>> · Short training modules and crash courses material must be >>>> soon updated on UASG.tech so that same can be used by institutions to >>>> educate for Universal acceptance program. >>>> >>>> · UA ready certifications for applications and website must be >>>> quickly planned and implemented. >>>> >>>> · Community have lots of expectations from Universal acceptance >>>> group so we should move with a structured plan to deliver speedily. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers !!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>

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Re: [UA-discuss] ICANN64
by Ali Ahmad Jabbar April 8, 2019

April 8, 2019

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