May 2018 - UA-discuss - lists.iana.org

Need information regarding IDN Domains in yur country
by Harish Chowdhary May 18, 2018

May 18, 2018

Dear UA Ambassadors,I hope this message would find you in excellent health. I am Harish Chowdhary, from National Internet Exchange of India (NIXI- .INRegistry).I need your help to find out information regarding number of registered IDN Domains and associated cost in your respective country.The queries are.     How many IDN domains are registered with "The respective IDN registry of your country". For example How many IDN domains are registered with ".ею" (IDN equivalent of .eu)     What is the cost of registration of an IDN domain/year? What is the renewal cost for an IDN Domain/year?I hope you may provide this information at harish(a)nixi.in or you may redirect me available resorces to find out the required details.Thanking you in advance.Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst,National Internet Exchange of IndiaISOC FELLOW | inSIG FELLOWIIREF FELLOW | UASG AMBASSADORwww.nixi.in | www.indiaig.in | registry.in ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [NIXI is on Social-Media too. Kindly follow us at: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nixiindia & Twitter: @inregistry ] This e-mail is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies and the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited and appropriate legal action will be taken. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [UA-discuss] Experts, organisations come together to build Indian language Internet
by Ashish Modi May 18, 2018

May 18, 2018

It is always good to have you addressing UA in India. Being a UA Ambassador, your article is very helpful for me.Thanks Ram Regards,Ashish From: Ram Mohan MailId : [81547494]To: UA-discuss@icann.org,Ua-comms-wg@icann.org,ua-coordination@icann.orgSubject: [UA-discuss] Experts, organisations come together to build Indian language InternetDate: 18 May 2018 01:42:40 AM From today&rsquos newspaper update in India, where I am for a couple of days. Could not let the opportunity slip to speak a bit about Universal Acceptance . -Ram https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/experts-organisations-come-tog… Stakeholders across the board are coming together to help build Indian language capability on the Internet, a complex problem in India given the diverse languages and scripts . The UASG (Universal Acceptance Steering Group) is a multi-stakeholder group under the aegis of the &ldquotelephone directory&rdquo of the Internet-- Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers . It consists of members from more than 120 companies including Apple, GoDaddy, Google, Microsoft, governments and community groups . The work that UASG is doing will ensure, for example, that an email address in the Hindi script is identified as an email domain, and the receiver is able to see the emails sent from this address . &ldquoThe biggest challenge is in reaching the decision makers,&rdquo said Ram Mohan, Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer, Afilias, one of the world`s most well-known technology service providers for Internet domains . Explaining why universal acceptance is important, Mohan said an investment in the local languages is about making sure that all applications, operating systems, chat applications and social media applications are able to recognise what a new domain name is . Mohan noted it is particularly important as even if one types out an email address in the Hindi script it is identified as an email address and automatically underlined in blue. Similarly, if one is typing it in Microsoft word, it should automatically become a link. Mohan is also a Board member at ICANN . Last year, a study by Analysys Mason found that online revenue opportunity in enabling local languages was a $9.8 billion growth opportunity . Go get around the issue of reaching decision makers, Afilias has partnered with the Internet and Mobile Association of India and the National Internet Exchange of India . &ldquoWe worked with Google and Gmail has completed their programme. It completely accepts internationalised email now. We are also in the middle of working with Microsoft to have Outlook also support Indic languages,&rdquo said Mohan . Over the past couple of years, there has been an increased focus on voice-based technology for search and other products. Big technology companies like Google, Apple, Amazon, all have their voice assistants . There is also talk of domain names losing their relevance in the world of curated content when people seldom type out entire web addresses . &ldquoI have so much hope in the future of voice in Internet technology. It will solve stuff on the input side,&rdquo said Mohan . For instance, if you tell Cortana or Siri or Alexa to send an email to an address with letters in Hindi, it may not understand this is an email address. If you say ram(a)mohan.com, it will know. UASG is looking at sorting out these issues . ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ram MohanExecutive Vice President &amp CTOAfilias Ireland|Canada|USA|India|Australia|China(o) +1.215.706.5700 x103 (m) +1.215.431.0958 (f) +1.215.706.5701rmohan(a)afilias.info | Skype: gliderpilot30 | Twitter @rmohan123--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do not Remove:[HID]20180518014240641[-HID] [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER]

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Experts, organisations come together to build Indian language Internet
by Ram Mohan May 17, 2018

May 17, 2018

>From today’s newspaper update in India, where I am for a couple of days. Could not let the opportunity slip to speak a bit about Universal Acceptance. -Ram https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/technology/experts-organisations-come-tog… Stakeholders across the board are coming together to help build Indian language capability on the Internet, a complex problem in India given the diverse languages and scripts. The UASG (Universal Acceptance Steering Group) is a multi-stakeholder group under the aegis of the “telephone directory” of the Internet-- Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers. It consists of members from more than 120 companies including Apple, GoDaddy, Google, Microsoft, governments and community groups. The work that UASG is doing will ensure, for example, that an email address in the Hindi script is identified as an email domain, and the receiver is able to see the emails sent from this address. “The biggest challenge is in reaching the decision makers,” said Ram Mohan, Executive Vice President and Chief Technology Officer, Afilias, one of the world's most well-known technology service providers for Internet domains. Explaining why universal acceptance is important, Mohan said an investment in the local languages is about making sure that all applications, operating systems, chat applications and social media applications are able to recognise what a new domain name is. Mohan noted it is particularly important as even if one types out an email address in the Hindi script it is identified as an email address and automatically underlined in blue. Similarly, if one is typing it in Microsoft word, it should automatically become a link. Mohan is also a Board member at ICANN. Last year, a study by Analysys Mason found that online revenue opportunity in enabling local languages was a $9.8 billion growth opportunity. Go get around the issue of reaching decision makers, Afilias has partnered with the Internet and Mobile Association of India and the National Internet Exchange of India. “We worked with Google and Gmail has completed their programme. It completely accepts internationalised email now. We are also in the middle of working with Microsoft to have Outlook also support Indic languages,” said Mohan. Over the past couple of years, there has been an increased focus on voice-based technology for search and other products. Big technology companies like Google, Apple, Amazon, all have their voice assistants. There is also talk of domain names losing their relevance in the world of curated content when people seldom type out entire web addresses. “I have so much hope in the future of voice in Internet technology. It will solve stuff on the input side,” said Mohan. For instance, if you tell Cortana or Siri or Alexa to send an email to an address with letters in Hindi, it may not understand this is an email address. If you say ram(a)mohan.com, it will know. UASG is looking at sorting out these issues. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ram Mohan Executive Vice President & CTO Afilias <http://www.afilias.info/> Ireland|Canada|USA|India|Australia|China (o) +1.215.706.5700 x103 (m) +1.215.431.0958 (f) +1.215.706.5701 rmohan(a)afilias.info | Skype: gliderpilot30 | Twitter @rmohan123 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Assamese
by Asmus Freytag May 16, 2018

May 16, 2018

All, it might be useful if the UA community where more aware of the continuing efforts to request a disunification of Assamese from Bengali on a script basis. The forwarded message contains a link to the proposal so you can read along. (The proposal calls for the "inclusion of the Assamese script" in Unicode/ISO 10646 which sidesteps the fact that the script currently encoded in Unicode, despite the name "Bengali" is in fact covering both the Bengali and Assamese languages). As noted by the person commenting on it on the Unicode list, the issues cited are all common for cases where more than one language shares the same script. If you look in the proposal document, you will see that the list of characters are not really distinct from each other; so it's not the case that the languages use different forms of the same basic letters (unlike the European languages when historically German would use other letter shapes than French). The consequences of splitting the script for IDNs would be pretty drastic, as every single label would have to be a blocked variant of some label in the "other" script; worse would be the issue that users seeing a label in print would (in many cases) not be able to tell which script to use to enter it. Even for regular text, the situation would be chaotic, as you could type either language in either script and it would largely "look" OK, but sort differently. Add to that, the issue that decades of existing data will continue to exist in what would then be the "wrong" script. What is of concern here is not that there is a high likelihood of Unicode accepting a proposal like that, but the level of activity in the community being geared up in support of it. Let's hope it doesn't ever get there, A./ -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: L2/18-181 Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 13:46:22 -0700 From: Doug Ewell via Unicode <unicode(a)unicode.org> Reply-To: Doug Ewell <doug(a)ewellic.org> To: Unicode Mailing List <unicode(a)unicode.org> http://www.unicode.org/L2/L2018/18181-n4947-assamese.pdf This is a fascinating proposal to disunify the Assamese script from Bengali on the following bases: 1. The identity of Assamese as a script distinct from Bengali is in jeopardy. 2. Collation is different between the Assamese and Bengali languages, and code point order should reflect collation order. 3. Keyboard design is more difficult because consonants like ক্ষ are encoded as conjunct forms instead of atomic characters. 4. The use of a single encoded script to write two languages forces users to use language identifiers to identify the language. 5. Transliteration of Assamese into a different script is problematic because letters have different phonological value in Assamese and Bengali. It will be interesting to see where this proposal goes. Given that all or most of these issues can be claimed for English, French, German, Spanish, and hundreds of other languages written in the Latin script, if the Assamese proposal is approved we can expect similar disunification of the Latin script into language-specific alphabets in the future. -- Doug Ewell | Thornton, CO, US | ewellic.org

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UA Session Happening Now at the GDD Summit - RP Info below
by Gwen Carlson May 15, 2018

May 15, 2018

Elmbridge https://participate.icann.org/gddsummit-elmbridge/ Participant Code: 4059797113 URL to additional access numbers: https://www.myrcplus.com/cnums.asp?bwebid=8369444&ppc=4059797113&num=1-605-… https://www.icann.org/gddsummit Gwen Carlson ICANN/GDD Sr. Communications Director Mobile: +1 619 322 3188 Work: +1 310 578 8653

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Universal Acceptance - Real World Experiences
by Don Hollander May 15, 2018

May 15, 2018

I'm looking for some more people who have actually taken the steps to make their systems UA Ready. If this is you or someone that you know, could you please contact me directly off the list at don.hollander(a)icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>? Thanks. Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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AUTO: Ahmed Bakhat Masood is out of the office. (returning 16/05/2018)
by Ahmed Bakhat Masood May 13, 2018

May 13, 2018

I am out of the office until 16/05/2018. I will not be able to respond to your mail. For urgent queries, please contact Mr. Shageel Ahmed Dy Director (ICT) at shargeel(a)pta.gov.pk or Mr. Anwar Zeb IT Officer at anwar(a)pta.gov.pk Note: This is an automated response to your message "UA-discuss Digest, Vol 41, Issue 12" sent on 05/13/2018 5:00:04 PM. This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away.

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Mixing between RTL and LTR scripts
by Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila May 13, 2018

May 13, 2018

Dear all, I hope you all doing well, after back to TF-AIDN "Task Force Of Arabic IDNs", I got the following regards to mixing LTR and RTL texts within the same label. - Mixing between different scripts is not allowed for domain names and email addresses - Numbers at the middle or at the end of the RTL domain name is allowed. To be away from the display issues we get if we mix RTL and LTR code points in the same labels. Thnx All the Best, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry, Operation Sector. [NTRA Logo 2016] National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile] Mobile: +2 010 00049068 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: ICON] Fax : +2 02 35370537 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE] Website : http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila(a)mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg> : atharwat(a)tra.gov.eg<mailto:atharwat@tra.gov.eg> [Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila [Description: static_qr_code_without_logo] [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) . Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.

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New IDN guidelines draft
by Vittorio Bertola May 11, 2018

May 11, 2018

Hi all, ICANN just released a new draft of the new IDN guidelines, possibly the final one: https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2018-05-10-en This is where ICANN puts rules for registries and registrars on IDN registrations, including those that are of interest to universal acceptance. I think that the draft has got better over time, but rule #17 is still about "encouraging" registries to avoid registration of whole-script confusables, rather than requiring them... and we know that any publicly noticed instance of phishing based on visual character confusion will play against universal acceptance. Ciao -- Vittorio Bertola Head of Policy & Innovation Cell: +39 348 7015022 Skype: in-skype-ox(a)bertola.eu Email: vittorio.bertola(a)open-xchange.com mailto:vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com Twitter: @openexchange http://twitter.com/openexchange - Facebook: OpenXchange https://www.facebook.com/OpenXchange - Web: www.open-xchange.com http://www.open-xchange.com Open-Xchange AG, Rollnerstr. 14, 90408 Nuremberg, District Court Nuremberg HRB 24738 Managing Board: Rafael Laguna de la Vera, Carsten Dirks, Michael Knapstein, Stephan Martin Chairman of the Board: Richard Seibt European Office: Open-Xchange GmbH, Olper Huette 5f, D-57462 Olpe, Germany, District Court Siegen, HRB 8718 Managing Director: Frank Hoberg US Office: Open-Xchange. Inc., 530 Lytton Avenue, Palo Alto, CA 94301, USA Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments from your system.

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Arabic IDN / CentOs Linux / Bind DNS Server
by Zied BOUZIRI May 9, 2018

May 9, 2018

Hi Running my first IDN domain موقع.نطاق (for test purpose) with BIND9 DNS server under CentOs Server. Next Step Postfix Mail server SMTPUTF8 for EAI Best regards -- *cordially*, *مع تحياتي* *Zied BOUZIRI*، *زياد بوزيري* ISET Charguia, Tunisie www.bouziri.tn

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