November 2018 - UA-discuss

Universal Acceptance now on Wikipedia...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Acceptance
by Don Hollander July 9, 2020

July 9, 2020

A nice way to end a fairly productive year. Plans coming up: There will be a Universal Acceptance gathering on Monday the 8th of January in Hong Kong with the Hong Kong IT Community. This is being organised by .asia, ISOC HK and UASG. If you’ve not yet received an invitation but will be in Hong Kong that afternoon, please let me know and we’ll organise one. 15:00 - 18:00 at the Sheraton. The UASG Coordination Group will be meeting on Tuesday the 9th of January and the morning of the 10th if necessary, also in Hong Kong. The agenda will be out next week. Full remote participation will be available if there’s interest. There will be a meeting of EAI operators on the 11th and 12th in Guangzhou, China, hosted by Coremail and CNNIC. If you are an EAI practitioner and would like to participate and have not otherwise registered, please let me know. I expect that we’ll have remote participation facilities. The UASG is expecting another UA Workshop on Day 0 of the ICANN meeting in Puerto Rico as well as a public update session during the week. Dates and venues still to be confirmed. Happy New Year to everyone. If you’re out celebrating, please get home safe. Don Don Hollander Universal Acceptance Steering Group www.uasg.tech don.hollander(a)icann.org Skype: don_hollander

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UASG Coordination Group - Face to Face Meeting
by Don Hollander Jan. 1, 2019

Jan. 1, 2019

FYI: The UASG is having a Face-to-Face Coordination Group meeting in Washington DC from January 7 to January 9th. The agenda and associated papers are currently being prepared. The meeting will consider a refresh of the group Strategic Plan particularly in light of the ICANN's Board inclusion of Universal Acceptance in its strategic agenda. Like all our meetings, we'll provide remote access. If you are thinking about attending in person, would you please let me know so that we can manage the logistics. Thanks. Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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Internationalisation of Computer Science/IT
by Andre Schappo Nov. 26, 2018

Nov. 26, 2018

All, Dmitrii Дмитрий is one of my final year project students. His project is to develop a set of internationalised Computer Science/IT exercises. Similar to the internationalised programming challenges I made public sometime ago jsfiddle.net/user/coas/fiddles<http://jsfiddle.net/user/coas/fiddles> One of the requirements of his programme, Information Technology Management for Business, is that he must have a client. There is not too much work involved for the client. The client can be from Industry or Academia. Client participation includes: ① discussing the project with the student ② making suggestions ③ giving feedback Communication with the student can be via email and maybe also via remote video conferencing. Would anyone be willing to be a client for this student project? Thank you André Schappo

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vertical links
by Andre Schappo Nov. 20, 2018

Nov. 20, 2018

I had not thought about this before but earlier today I wondered if a link could be written vertically. I did some experimentation with TextEdit on OSX and yes it can be written vertically as a clickable link. In my original TextEdit document the link is highlighted and underlined as a clickable link. When I saved as PDF it loses the highlighting and underlining but is still a clickable link. I attach the PDF. Will do some more experimentation another time André Schappo

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Where should IDN translation happen?
by Michael Casadevall Nov. 15, 2018

Nov. 15, 2018

So, here is a question for the list: Where in the stack should IDN/EAI translation happen? Should it happen in the user application, or lower in the stack such as the core libraries that handle things like TLS connections? The reason I ask is that I once managed to blow up Python connecting to a IDN website with 10 line program (https://gist.github.com/NCommander/04e34b3fcc4af347bcfedbc053b08c06 - with error output) trying to use the built in ssl library to connect to an IDN website. I’ve filed a bug with Python upstream (https://bugs.python.org/issue35234) but I think it raises a larger question. Python’s import ssl library is a fairly thin wrapper over OpenSSL which is what started this investigation. During an earlier conversation on this list, and during ICANN63, I began to have concerns about the health of WebPKI in relation to internationalized domain names, and I spoke to Don on investigating these issues more in-depth. As a follow up to that conversation, I began poking OpenSSL with a stick, and found much to my surprise, it has absolutely no support for IDN* or EAIs: See https://gist.github.com/NCommander/d68f66f74ba0122f8bb4567ca10a6a40 for an example This leads library makers and applications to handle IDNs manually, which in the case of Python, if they made a mistake can lead to the above error, namely blowing up Python. Now, in practice, OpenSSL not directly supporting IDNs seems to have relatively little effect on its own. After taking a very deep dive through the RFCs, it appears that in all relevant places, everything relating to web TLS certificates takes EAI5Address encoding and thus requires punycode representation. However, as I’ve just shown, there are obviously places where things have fallen through the cracks and I think it warrants a deeper investigation. The thing is though, and just to reiterate the question, just where in the stack should IDN translation happen? In the above case, had OpenSSL supported IDNs directly, it would have prevented this bug in the first place. That being said, since TLS essentially only uses A-labels as far as I can tell, I can’t necessarily say it’s wrong that OpenSSL doesn’t support IDNs. I think, though, this is an area which, in general, that needs more attention, especially if I can break a popular programming language with a trivial example. Thoughts and comments welcome, Michael * - there is one special case for wildcards

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Re: [UA-discuss] Universal Acceptance Thought Leader by UASG
by Ashish Modi Nov. 14, 2018

Nov. 14, 2018

+1 Regards, AM From: Roberto Gaetano MailId : [86274937]To: Ashish Modi Cc: Universal Acceptance Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Universal Acceptance Thought Leader by UASGDate: 14 Nov 2018 04:39:56 PM UA is one of the subjects touched upon in many sessions here at the IGF in Paris . I will do my best to diffuse . R On 14.11.2018, at 10:51, Ashish Modi ashishmodi(a)xgenplus.com> wrote: Hello Everyone, Universal Acceptance Steering Group ( uasg.tech ) recognized the initiative and leadership of Chief Minister of Rajasthan State Smt. Vasundhara Raje for providing free email address in the choice of the citizen`s language i.e Hindi/English. More than 4 million users have been enabled with EAI address through RajMail project. Universal Acceptance Thought Leader recognition was given by UASG to her for the visionary initiative to provide EAI free to every citizen of the state. The news link below is for details. https://www.itvoice.in/index.php/it-voice-news/smt-vasundhara-raje-honble-c… https://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/uasg-confers-universa… This may please be shared in other group to motivate other stake holders/Governments to see this as case study. Regards, Ashish UA Ambassador to India [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER] Do not Remove: [HID]20181114140719759[-HID]

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Universal Acceptance Thought Leader by UASG
by Ashish Modi Nov. 14, 2018

Nov. 14, 2018

Hello Everyone, Universal Acceptance Steering Group ( uasg.tech ) recognized the initiative and leadership of Chief Minister of Rajasthan State Smt. Vasundhara Raje for providing free email address in the choice of the citizen`s language i.e Hindi/English. More than 4 million users have been enabled with EAI address through RajMail project. Universal Acceptance Thought Leader recognition was given by UASG to her for the visionary initiative to provide EAI free to every citizen of the state.The news link below is for details.https://www.itvoice.in/index.php/it-voice-news/smt-vasundhara-raje-… may please be shared in other group to motivate other stake holders/Governments to see this as case study. Regards,AshishUA Ambassador to India [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER] Do not Remove: [HID]20181114140719759[-HID]

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Results: Pilot LinkedIn Campaign
by Don Hollander Nov. 13, 2018

Nov. 13, 2018

As discussed during the UASG Meeting in Barcelona, please find this report on our Pilot LinkedIN campaign. Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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Fun with Unicode
by Mark Svancarek (CELA) Nov. 11, 2018

Nov. 11, 2018

https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2018/11/domain-hacks-with-unusual-unicode-characte… Actually, the remapping by browsers seems bad

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Re: [UA-discuss] Fun with Unicode
by Dr Ajay Data Nov. 10, 2018

Nov. 10, 2018

Probably Mark, we shall look more deeper on this page https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2018/11/domain-hacks-with-unusual-unicode-characte… I copy the link by right clicking on the hyper link, I get https://edent.tel/ and .tel is represented as three characters, not as one symbol.When I inspect and copy the element from chrome browser I see https://edent.℡/ and here I find ℡ as one symbol not three characters. Is there any encoding/decoding method like punycode for these special symbols , which browsers are following. What makes browser map these symbols to three different characters.. ?thanks Dr. Ajay DATA | Founder &amp CEO Get email id like अजय(a)xn--c2bd1gb.xn--h2brj9c in your own language,visit www.xgenplus.com From: "Mark Svancarek (CELA) via UA-discuss" MailId : [86168589]To: Andrew Sullivan ,"ua-discuss(a)icann.org" Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Fun with UnicodeDate: 10 Nov 2018 05:52:03 AM Should we file bugs against browsers with these behaviors?-----Original Message-----From: Andrew Sullivan Sent: Friday, November 9, 2018 4:19 PMTo: Mark Svancarek (CELA) ua-discuss(a)icann.orgSubject: Re: [UA-discuss] Fun with UnicodeMany of these are invalid under 2008. Yet another example where sticking to the old protocol or UTS#46 hurts us.A--Please excuse my clumbsy thums----------On November 10, 2018 04:19:35 "Mark Svancarek \(CELA\) via UA-discuss" wrote:> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fshksp> r.mobi%2Fblog%2F2018%2F11%2Fdomain-hacks-with-unusual-unicode-characte> rs%2F&ampdata=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C25ef81dd6f7c415d3fb0> 08d646a22738%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636774059725> 382049&ampsdata=4tKv6zQWKCHBTTMrwz24D4d90iom%2B%2BRcFrWk00uclew%3D&ampam> preserved=0>> Actually, the remapping by browsers seems badDo not Remove:[HID]20181110055203988[-HID] [XGENFOOTER] [-XGENFOOTER]

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Quick Guide to Right-to-Left scripts
by Don Hollander Nov. 9, 2018

Nov. 9, 2018

Attached please find some notes and thoughts from SaudiNic on dealing with the treatment of Arabic script in domain names and email addresses. During the discussion at the UASG meeting in Barcelona we decided that we wanted to consider a Quick Guide to Right-to-left scripts and that we could use the work that SaudiNic and the TF-AIDN has already done on this topic. The attached is based on Arabic script. Could it be used for other Right-To-Left scripts (i.e. Hebrew)? Are the adjustments that we would want to make before adopting it as a UASG standard? Your comments before the end of November are most welcome indeed. Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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Re: [UA-discuss] Results: Pilot LinkedIn Campaign
by Richard Merdinger Nov. 8, 2018

Nov. 8, 2018

Don, Are we able to inject a survey to those who clicked through to see if there was any further action taken? A “conversion” in eCommerce terms. Richard Merdinger VP, Domains rmerdinger(a)godaddy.com<mailto:rmerdinger@godaddy.com> From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org> on behalf of Don Hollander <don.hollander(a)icann.org> Date: Thursday, November 8, 2018 at 4:56 PM To: "ua-discuss(a)icann.org" <ua-discuss(a)icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] Results: Pilot LinkedIn Campaign As discussed during the UASG Meeting in Barcelona, please find this report on our Pilot LinkedIN campaign. Don Hollander Secretary General – UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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Universal Acceptance & Bussiness
by Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila Nov. 7, 2018

Nov. 7, 2018

Dears, Do we have slides or tutorials in how UA affect the bussiness !!! If there, kindly share link. Sent from my iPhone

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Presentation from ICANN63 (and before) are now published at https://uasg.tech/ua-presentations/
by Don Hollander Nov. 6, 2018

Nov. 6, 2018

Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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Draft Notes - UASG @ ICANN63 in Barcelona
by Don Hollander Nov. 6, 2018

Nov. 6, 2018

Please find attached the draft notes from the UASG events during the ICANN63 meeting in Barcelona. Correction and adjustments for those there would be most welcome indeed. Don Don Hollander Secretary General - UASG Skype: Don_Hollander

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Linkification bug on tweeter
by Dr. Ajay Data Nov. 5, 2018

Nov. 5, 2018

We found that tweeter has IDN linkification bug. DataMail tweeted the following.. We now have @EUregistry IDN domain with EAI enabled in DataMail app.. Launched today with Dr. @ajaydata email ID as ájay(a)xn--mil-ela.eu #launched Here is the link to the tweet: https://twitter.com/datamail_in/status/1055140179089022976?s=19 You will notice that IDN is wrongly hyperlinked..And yes it was done automatically by twitter app. Thanks. Ajay -- Sent from XGenPlus

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