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Help Wanted - Technical Copy Editing
by Don Hollander March 11, 2016

March 11, 2016

Dear all: Please see attached a draft Help Wanted add for copy editing services. I would very much welcome your suggestions for improvement no later than the 19th of March. And, if you know people who might find this up their alley, so to speak, please alert them to a pending request for help. Thanks. Don

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Help Wanted - Technical Copy Editing
by Don Hollander March 11, 2016

March 11, 2016

Dear all: Please see attached a draft Help Wanted add for copy editing services. I would very much welcome your suggestions for improvement no later than the 19th of March. And, if you know people who might find this up their alley, so to speak, please alert them to a pending request for help. Thanks. Don

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Re: [UA-discuss] RTL Script Domain Names & Email Addresses
by Andre Schappo March 9, 2016

March 9, 2016

Ah! I was not expecting that. Not sure what changes Sys Admin has made Please try the plain http form http://co-project.lboro.ac.uk/users/coas/arabic-email.html André Schappo On 9 Mar 2016, at 16:29, Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda(a)icann.org<mailto:leo.vegoda@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Andre, The page requires a login. Regards, Leo -----Original Message----- From: ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 8:25 AM To: ua-discuss(a)icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] RTL Script Domain Names & Email Addresses Without bidi isolates or any other form of intervention the email address مارك(a)xn--wgbe5cxa.xn--mgberp4a5d4ar wholly displays L⬅︎R I have just created a temporary page to show how the arabic address مارك(a)xn--wgbe5cxa.xn--mgberp4a5d4ar appears in L➡︎R Context & L⬅︎R Context using bidi isolates. https://co-project.lboro.ac.uk/users/coas/arabic-email.html With reference to my page : The L➡︎R Context gives an email address in a structure more familiar to a L➡︎R reader. The structure being, in this case, local-part(a)label.label<mailto:local-part@label.label>. It does not matter which direction a label text is. Each label could have a different direction and again it would not matter. A L➡︎R reader would readily recognise this as an email address. Personally I find it much easier to recognise an email address when written like this. Similarly for the L⬅︎R Context I have used html to illustrate. In a word processing document one would use the Unicode isolates U+2066➡︎2069. It would be the responsibility of the software to automatically implement/insert/apply the bidi isolation for display of the email address to users. There are indeed other cases but I think the same principles outlined above can be applied. André Schappo On 8 Mar 2016, at 18:51, Andrew Sullivan <ajs(a)anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>> wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 06:02:12PM +0000, Andre Schappo wrote: I have given some thought to how to handle/display domain names that are in a right to left script such as Arabic. After some thought and experimentation I think that each label of a domain name should be bidi isolated. That's already the requirement for processing, according to IDNA2008 (that is, IDNA is label by label, not over the domain name). So so far, I agree. I don't have an intuition as to what would be clear to a user; perhaps you have one. But … Lets take a 2 level domain name: 2ndLevelD.TLD where each label is written in a Right to Left Script. … I'm slightly worried about this, because I suspect you're also going to need something that is unsurprising where the different labels are in different directions. I believe that using bidi isolates leads to easier to comprehend domain names/email addresses for both Left to Right readers and Right to Left readers. This is also probably true, but since an awful lot of cases don't include the markup to indicate the bidi isolates, there's still that problem too. This includes (just for instance) email, particularly the headers. So while the mark up helps I'm wondering what to do about other cases. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs(a)anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> 猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴 http://twitter.com/andreschappo http://schappo.blogspot.co.uk http://weibo.com/andreschappo 猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴猴 http://twitter.com/andreschappo http://schappo.blogspot.co.uk http://weibo.com/andreschappo

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UA @ ICANN55 - Wednesday
by Don Hollander March 9, 2016

March 9, 2016

Wednesday Toubkal https://icann.adobeconnect.com/rak55-toubkal 01 09:00 Update on UASG (15 minutes) Ram Mohan 02 09:15 Review of Quick Guides (30 Minutes) Mark Svancarek 03 09:45 Registry/Registrar UA Issue Identification (10 minutes) Rich Merdinger 04 09:55 UA Readiness Update – ICANN IT (10 minutes) Ashwin Rangan 05 10:05 Q&A (10 minutes) Ram Mohan

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intervention from Indian delegates
by Edmon Chung March 9, 2016

March 9, 2016

ARVIND GUPTA: THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ON BEHALF OF MY DELEGATION, I WANT TO MAKE AN INTERVENTION, I WANT TO MAKE TWO POINTS. EVERY SECOND 3 NEW INDIANS EXPERIENCE THE INTERNET FOR THE FIRST TIME AND MANY OF THEM ARE NOT FLUENT IN ENGLISH AND THE LANGUAGES THEY READ DO NOT USE ROMAN CHARACTERS. THIS IS NOT TRUE ONLY FOR INDIANS BUT FOR A VAST MAJORITY OF THE NEXT BILLION WHO WILL BE COMING ONLINE SOON. FOR ALL THESE PEOPLE IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THERE IS HIGH QUALITY LOCAL LANGUAGE CONTENT AVAILABLE AND THAT THE SERVICES WHICH WE ALL TAKE FOR GRANTED SUCH AS EMAIL WORK SEAMLESSLY. THIS IS POSSIBLE ONLY BY MAKING SURE THAT IDNs ARE ROLLED OUT AND ARE SUPPORTED FULLY BY EVERYONE. IN OTHER WORDS WHAT IS ESSENTIAL IS UNIVERSAL ACCEPTANCE WHICH IS AN AREA WHERE ICANN CAN PLAY AN IMPORTANT FACILITATING ROLE.

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UA @ ICANN55 - Tuesday
by Don Hollander March 8, 2016

March 8, 2016

Here’s a list of UA sessions that you might be interested in: Tuesday 09:00-9:30 – UASG& SSAC Yacourt 11:00 APAC workshop – Opale ccNSO Presentation 16:15 Universal Acceptance - an update on achievements and the role of ccTLDs in UA achievement Don Hollander, ICANN https://icann.adobeconnect.com/rak55-oliveraie

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Arabic script email being displayed as Chinese
by Andre Schappo March 8, 2016

March 8, 2016

During the ICANN55 UA Sunday session, the use of EAI was demonstrated live. There was one or more instances where the Arabic email address was incorrectly being displayed as a string of Chinese characters. Here is a possible explanation - So lets take the Arabic email being used which was مارك(a)xn--wgbe5cxa.xn--mgberp4a5d4ar This email string in utf8 encoding is d9 85 d8 a7 d8 b1 d9 83 40 d8 b1 d8 b3 d9 8a d9 84 2e d8 a7 d9 84 d8 b3 d8 b9 d9 88 d8 af d9 8a d8 a9 If this utf8 encoded email string is then incorrectly treated as GB18030 encoded we would get displayed 賲丕乇賰@乇爻賷 During the live demo I did not have time to determine which Chinese characters were displayed. So, Mark, could you please check whether or not these are the Chinese characters that were displayed André Schappo

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(no subject)
by Andrei Kolesnikov March 7, 2016

March 7, 2016

Wait a minute. Reply to all for original message from Mark bounced back: Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently: 椥忪斬(a)xn--wgbe5cxa.xn--mgberp4a5d4ar Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the server for the recipient domain xn--wgbe5cxa.xn--mgberp4a5d4ar by xn--ngbrx4e.xn--wgbe5cxa.xn--mgberp4a5d4ar. [86.111.195.13]. The error that the other server returned was: 550 5.1.1 <椥忪斬(a)xn--wgbe5cxa.xn--mgberp4a5d4ar>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in virtual mailbox table 2016-03-07 14:25 GMT+03:00 Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei(a)rol.ru>: > works at Gmail web on Firefox 44.0.2/OS X 10.10.5. Also Gmail sent folder > keeps messages and displays it no problem, no change to punycode. > > --andrei > > 2016-03-06 18:30 GMT+03:00 Mark Svancarek <marksv(a)microsoft.com>: > >> Here are two addresses for testing. Please send some messages to these >> addresses, then share back the results. >> >> >> >> مارك(a)xn--wgbe5cxa.xn--mgberp4a5d4ar >> >> >> >> 微软测试(a)xn--blq510jgwa.xn--fiqs8s >> >> >> >> Please tell us your configuration: >> >> · OS >> >> · Browser version (if you used a browser mail application) >> >> · Email application version(if you didn’t use a browser) >> >> >> >> Also send us the results. Even if it worked perfectly, we need to know. >> If it failed or has an error, share the error text. If address was changed >> to punycode, share that also. >> >> >> >> Thank you for your help achieving Universal Acceptance in the email >> ecosystem! >> >> >> >> -Mark Svancarek >> >> >> > > > > -- > Andrei Kolesnikov > Manager of cosmic internet consciousness > > -- Andrei Kolesnikov Manager of cosmic internet consciousness

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Universal Acceptance Marrakesh Wednesday session
by Michelle DeSmyter March 6, 2016

March 6, 2016

The following calendar invite is for the Universal Acceptance Update call in Marrakesh on Wednesday, March 9th at 09:00 UTC For other times: http://tinyurl.com/j7pa6cu Universal Acceptance Update Wednesday Session Marrakesh Agenda: To view presentation and listen to call please use the Adobe Connect link: https://icann.adobeconnect.com/rak55-toubkal 01 09:00 Update on UASG (15 minutes) Ram Mohan 02 09:15 Review of Quick Guides (30 Minutes) Mark Svancarek 03 09:45 Registry/Registrar UA Issue Identification (10 minutes) Rich Merdinger 04 09:55 UA Readiness Update - ICANN IT (10 minutes) Ashwin Rangan 05 10:05 Q&A (10 minutes) Ram Mohan

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UA Programme (Final - I hope) for ICANN55 meeting in Marrakech
by Don Hollander March 5, 2016

March 5, 2016

The attached is the program for the next few days as far UA issues go. Links to Adobe Connect Rooms are provided as available.

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