November 2015 - UA-discuss

UA Discuss Group Call (in case you don't have this as an item in your calendar already)
by Don Hollander Nov. 18, 2015

Nov. 18, 2015

Agenda UA Discuss Group Call Wednesday, 2015-11-18 23:00 UTC https://icann.adobeconnect.com/universalacceptance MobileUSA tel://1-719-325-2630,*,,7375086559#<tel://1-719-325-2630,*,,7375086559> MobileNZ: tel://0800-459-127,*,,7375086559# MobileHK tel://800-968-082,*,,7375086559# MobileUK tel://0800-368-0950,*,,7375086559# Phone Only Controls : https://go.conferencinghub.com/1n1zr Other numbers available by request. Agenda: 1)Review of Previous Notes and action items arising a.Review of the IGF - Christian b.Hackathon 2)Matters arising from Dublin a.EAI - See written update from Brent i.We are actively seeking out EAI developers b.Help Wanted - Statement of Work - Don c.Community Engagement Model - Don d.Engagement with other bodies i.ISOC - Don ii. 3)Substantive Discussions a.Registry/Registrar Handbook - Dennis 4)AoB

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UA - Measurement & Monitoring Call
by Don Hollander Nov. 18, 2015

Nov. 18, 2015

I’m about to send out a meeting invite for a call on Monday @ 23:00 UTC for a re-boot of the M&M program. The call is set for the ‘traditional’ UA meeting time of UTC 23:00. We recognise that this may not be a welcome time for those in Europe or Central Asia (or other parts of the world). If you would prefer a different time of day, can you let me know directly? FYI: Here are the entries from the Budget for M&M: Measurement & Monitoring Measurement and Monitoring will identify the areas that the UASG should focus its technical and outreach efforts. It will also provide some measures of achievements over time. Funds will cover establishing the evaluation criteria and contracting qualified testers to perform the evaluation. 5.1 Email Server & Client Evaluation - Evaluate the 25 largest email service and software providers for their ability to handle EAI and new gTLDs. For a broad sample of new TLDs (IDNs and ASCII), determine if an account can be created and if mail can be sent and received. $50,000 October Mark, Brent 5.2 Popular Software - Evaluate the 50 most popular programming and scripting languages and determine their UA Readiness. $50,000 November - March Mark 5.3 Popular Websites - Evaluate the 25 most popular websites globally, regionally and nationally and determine their UA Readiness. Evaluation will include 25 Globally, 25 in each of the five ICANN regions, and 25 in 10 distinct economies who form local UASG. 2015-09-18 – Calculation removed as it was incorrect. $100,000 November – June Mark 5.4 Popular Browsers - Evaluate the 25 most popular browser & their platforms (browser + operating system) to determine their UA Readiness. 25@$250 $6,250 December Mark 5.5 Soft Measures - Provide a report from the ICANN Global Survey which focuses specifically on the UA issues and their acceptance by users and registrants $5,000 January Mark 5.6 Accessibility - Assess whether there are any inhibiting factors at the routing layer. A project conducted in association with APNIC Labs $15,000 April Don in Conjunction with ICANN CTO Total Measurement and Monitoring $226,250

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UA - Measurement & Monitoring - Reboot Call
by Don Hollander Nov. 18, 2015

Nov. 18, 2015

This is a call to re-boot the discussion on Universal Acceptance - Measurement and Monitoring. https://icann.adobeconnect.com/universalacceptance MobileUSA tel://1-719-325-2630,*,,7375086559#<tel://1-719-325-2630,*,,7375086559> MobileNZ: tel://0800-459-127,*,,7375086559# MobileHK tel://800-968-082,*,,7375086559# MobileUK tel://0800-368-0950,*,,7375086559# Phone Only Controls : https://go.conferencinghub.com/1n1zr Other numbers available by request.

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UA Discuss Group Call (in case you don't have this as an item in your calendar already)
by Don Hollander Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

Agenda UA Discuss Group Call Wednesday, 2015-11-18 23:00 UTC https://icann.adobeconnect.com/universalacceptance MobileUSA tel://1-719-325-2630,*,,7375086559#<tel://1-719-325-2630,*,,7375086559> MobileNZ: tel://0800-459-127,*,,7375086559# MobileHK tel://800-968-082,*,,7375086559# MobileUK tel://0800-368-0950,*,,7375086559# Phone Only Controls : https://go.conferencinghub.com/1n1zr Other numbers available by request. Agenda: 1) Review of Previous Notes and action items arising a. Review of the IGF - Christian b. Hackathon 2) Matters arising from Dublin a. EAI - See written update from Brent i. We are actively seeking out EAI developers b. Help Wanted - Statement of Work - Don c. Community Engagement Model - Don d. Engagement with other bodies i. ISOC - Don ii. 3) Substantive Discussions a. Registry/Registrar Handbook - Dennis 4) AoB

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Re: [UA-discuss] ODG: Re: ODG: Re: ODG: Re: Tim Cook's comments today regarding Google Pay
by Ron Baione Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

First of all, Chris, I was responding to posts directed at me. If people want me to be quiet, why do they keep re-bringing up already ended discussions? So I can respond enough to be declared annoying and be banned. Playbook 101. Same story as ccwg-accountability, antagonize, insult, blame, fake astonishment, ban. Secondly, I am aware of the allowed topics, we have agreed to disagree on if Tim Cook's claim applies to UA's long term work or not, I already moved on from that multiple times, my question now is, what is the specific topic being discussed right now? The hackathon? Ron

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Help Wanted...
by Don Hollander Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

The deadline for submission for the Help Wanted - technical writer - is coming up soon. We have had precious few submission, so if you’re interested or know someone else who is or might be, please proceed with haste! Statement of Work attached again... Don

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UA Discuss Agenda - 23:00 UTC 2015-11-18
by Don Hollander Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

Proposed Agenda for this weeks’ call - pasted below and in PDF form for those who prefer that. Also attached are the notes from the call earlier this month. Don Agenda UA Discuss Group Call Wednesday, 2015-11-18 23:00 UTC https://icann.adobeconnect.com/universalacceptance <https://icann.adobeconnect.com/universalacceptance> MobileUSA tel://1-719-325-2630,*,,7375086559# <tel://1-719-325-2630,*,,7375086559/> MobileNZ: tel://0800-459-127,*,,7375086559# MobileHK tel://800-968-082,*,,7375086559# MobileUK tel://0800-368-0950,*,,7375086559# Phone Only Controls : https://go.conferencinghub.com/1n1zr <https://go.conferencinghub.com/1n1zr> Other numbers available by request. Agenda: 1) Review of Previous Notes and action items arising a. Review of the IGF – Christian b. Hackathon 2) Matters arising from Dublin a. EAI – See written update from Brent i. We are actively seeking out EAI developers b. Help Wanted – Statement of Work – Don c. Community Engagement Model – Don d. Engagement with other bodies i. ISOC – Don ii. 3) Substantive Discussions a. Registry/Registrar Handbook – Dennis 4) AoB

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Hackathon @ ICANN55
by Don Hollander Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

ICANN, through Cyrus Namazi, has raised the idea of supporting a “Hackathon” in conjunction with ICANN55 in Morocco. A “Hackathon” is where a bunch of geeks gather for a short period of time – one or two days – and code to solve problems. At the UA Discuss call yesterday there was strong interest in supporting such an event, but we ran out of time to reach any meaningful conclusion. So, this thread is to instigate discussion, ideas, and volunteers to help drive it forward. Your thoughts, please….

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Re: [UA-discuss] ODG: Re: ODG: Re: Tim Cook's comments today regarding Google Pay
by Ron Baione Nov. 17, 2015

Nov. 17, 2015

"Ron, here’s the deal." Ok, and the deal is... "This is a group working to ensure that all domain names work with all software and that all email addresses work with all software. Somebody decided to call that Universal Acceptance of Domain Names and Email Addresses, or Universal Acceptance for short." I know that, my objection is to the UA official symbol included in the documents, not the phrase usage of universal acceptance. "It’s not about the universe of anything else nor is it about the acceptance of anything else." Never said UA was about the universe, but regarding the official symbol, it is a face without a mouth that has the words universal acceptance where the mouth would be. "If you want to second-guess the name, you are being random." Never did that...continue... "If you want to expand the charter simply because the name implies a bigger charter to you and you alone, you are being random." Tim Cook stated something of relevance to UA in my opinion, because he stated an impossibility in regards to the internet was inevitable in the short term, if you want to disagree with that statement applying to all humans and groups, especially internet based groups, you are free to do so. "If you want to discuss the politics of oligarchies, you are being random." I would agree, but that never happened in the pure sense that you present that argument. The U.S. oligarchy and Oligarchy mentions were discussed In the context of the relevant topic, there was no post where the topic was only oligarchies. "If you want to argue about the definition of the word troll, you are being random." If called a troll then someone logically has a right to respond to that accusation. "If we ask you to stop being random, and you don’t, you are a pest. Right now, you are being a pest." I asked you what the current UA topic of discussion was 2 days ago and you have yet to respond to that simple question. Why? Because there is no current discussion in this group other than a possible hackathon, employment available, and the occassional post generalizing about turning motivation into results. I intellectually challenge you to identify the current topic of discussion. "If you understand what I am saying, don’t respond." I understand twhat you are saying, but it wasn't accurate, unless you can defend your arguments further intellectually. "Don’t defend your randomness further. Just be quiet and watch the rest of the group so you can learn and eventually contribute." Nah. Shh shouldn't be the official policy or symbol of any ICANN group. Shh is the policy of American corporate boardrooms who actually don't have to listen to "nobodies", because they own their business, ICANN allows anyone with an interest in IG to participate. Regardless of how long you've been involved, you own knowledge and position, but you don't own the right to tell others to be quiet. Well you can say that, but no one will obey that 'order'. Is that cool with you, boss? Can I go back to my cubicle now? Habe a hackathon about helping the disabled hear webpages as I suggested, a great idea, and the only reason why you won't is because I came up with the idea. We're all in this together bankers, CEO's, waiters, cleaners, the unemployed, doesn't matter. What matters is the ideas. Ron

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Re: [UA-discuss] UA @ IGF
by Richard Merdinger Nov. 13, 2015

Nov. 13, 2015

Thanks for sharing Don…watching it now. —Rich Richard Merdinger VP, Domains - GoDaddy e: rmerdinger(a)godaddy.com m: +1.319.530.4100 s: Richard.Merdinger On 11/12/15, 11:24 AM, "Don Hollander" <ua-discuss-bounces(a)icann.org on behalf of don.hollander(a)icann.org> wrote: >For those of you not there, or those who were there and want to re-live that glory, here’s the link: > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwnEPMaKO2E > >

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