July 2015 - lac-discuss-es

AUTO: Melody Palmer est� fuera de la oficina. (Volviendo lun 09/02/2013)
by Melody_Palmer＠heart-nta.org Jan. 22, 2024

Jan. 22, 2024

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: AUTO: Melody Palmer está fuera de la oficina. (Volviendo lun 09/02/2013) Desde: Melody_Palmer(a)heart-nta.org Estoy fuera de la oficina de lunes 08/19/2013 hasta el lunes 09/02/2013. Voy a responder a su mensaje rápidamente cuando vuelva. Nota: Esta es una respuesta automática a su mensaje "Re: [lac-discuss-es] =? Windows 1252? Q? RECORDATORIO_Invitaci = F3n_Reuni? == Windows 1252? Q? = F3n_/_LACRALO_agosto_/_Lunes_19_de_agosto_2013_a? == Windows 1252? Q? _las_23 = 3A00_UTC? = "Enviado el 19/08/2013 11:09:24 AM. Esta es la única notificación que recibirá mientras esta persona está ausente. _______________________________________________ [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/886ca5e725.html --]]

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New ALS Application received
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Oct. 2, 2015

Oct. 2, 2015

Dear all, This is to inform you that we received an ALS application from the Association Haitienne des Internautes. It is based in Haiti, and would be a member of LACRALO if accepted. Please find the application form in French attached. The EN translation will be posted upon receipt. Staff are preparing the Due Diligence. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann.atlarge Twitter: @ICANN_AtLarge

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personajes un UniRSE a la Difusin de At-Large y Sub-Comit de Participacin
by dacostabastidas＠dtech.ec July 31, 2015

July 31, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personajes un UniRSE a la Difusin de At-Large y Sub-Comit de Participacin De: dacostabastidas(a)dtech.ec Estimado Personal Por favor Confirmar si las Reuniones del grupo Contará con translation. Atte Diego Acosta Bastidas El 31 de julio de 2015, 09:57, <jlaureano(a)aui.pe> escribio: > Estimados amigos del Staff, > > Mis saludos, agradecerÃa registrar mi participaciÃ³n en este grupo. > > Atte. > > > Johnny Laureano > AUI PERU > > > > > El 2015-07-30 18:52, staff(a)atlarge.icann.org escribiÃ³: > >> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] >> >> Asunto: Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a >> la Difusiï¿œn de At-Large y Sub-Comitï¿œ de Participaciï¿œn >> De: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Desde: Gisella Gruber >> <gisella.gruber(a)icann.org<mailto:gisella.gruber@icann.org> > En >> nombre de Gisella Gruber >> <gisella.gruber(a)icann.org<mailto:gisella.gruber@icann.org> > >> Fecha: Miï¿œrcoles, 29 de julio 2015 20:24 >> Para: Dev Anand Teelucksingh >> <devtee(a)gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com> >, LACRALO lista de >> discusiï¿œn <l >> c-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > >> Asunto: Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a >> la Difusiï¿œn de At-Large y Sub-Comitï¿œ de Participaciï¿œn >> >> >> >> >> De: >> <lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: >> lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > En nombre de Dev Anand Teelucksingh >> <devtee(a)gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com> > >> Fecha: Sï¿œbado, 25 de julio 2015 uno y cuarenta >> Para: lista de discusiï¿œn de LACRALO <l >> c-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > >> Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a >> la Difusiï¿œn de At-Large y Sub-Comitï¿œ de Participaciï¿œn >> >> >> Queridos todos, >> >> >> A medida que el ALAC acordï¿œ durante ICANN52, el Subcomitï¿œ de Extensiï¿œn >> se ren >> la divulgaciï¿œn y compromiso Subcomitï¿œ. >> >> >> La Extensiï¿œn de Alcance y Compromiso Subcomitï¿œ ( http >> ://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ) >> - El desarrollo de una estrategia de At-Large en llegar a los >> posibles nuevos miembros de la Comunidad At-Large, >> - El desarrollo de una estrategia de At-Large de participar los >> miembros nuevos y existentes y >> - Trabajando en coordinaciï¿œn con las RALO, At-Large grupos de trabajo, t >> es como el Grupo de Trabajo de Desarrollo de Capacidades ( >> https://community.icann.org/x/1Ic3Ag) y el Grupo de Trabajo >> Estrategia Nueva reuniï¿œn ( https://community.icann.org/x/h4E0Aw) >> >> >> Si usted es la persona en LACRALO que estï¿œ interesado en ayudar a A >> -Large conseguir nuevos miembros y para conseguir que los miembros >> existentes mï¿œs que participan en At-Large, inscrï¿œbase enviando un correo e >> trï¿œnico staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> el 31 de >> julio de 2015. >> >> >> Algunos de los elementos de trabajo inmediatos propuestos para el >> Subcomitï¿œ de Extensiï¿œn y compromiso se puede encontrar en la pï¿œgina wiki >> de E >> ï¿œn y Participaciï¿œn en https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ >> >> >> Se solicita a los miembros existentes del Subcomitï¿œ ex Alcance deseen e >> tar en la nueva extensiï¿œn y compromiso Subcomitï¿œ para reconfirmar por corr >> o electrï¿œnico a staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> >> 31 de julio de 2015. >> >> >> Una llamada de la Sub-Comisiï¿œn de Extensiï¿œn y de compromiso se celebrarï¿œ >> el L >> 3 de agosto de 2015. Un Doodle serï¿œ enviado el viernes, se confirmarï¿œ el 3 >> e julio por la maï¿œana (UTC) y la hora de reuniï¿œn mï¿œs tarde ese dï¿œa, UTC. >> >> >> >> >> Saludos cordiales, >> >> >> Dev Anand Teelucksingh >> Alcance interino y presidente del compromiso Subcomitï¿œ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/f29f70ae65.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a la Difusin de At-Large y Sub-Comit de Participacin
by DIEGO ALFONSO ACOSTA BASTIDAS July 31, 2015

July 31, 2015

Estimado Staff Por favor confirmar si las reuniones del grupo contará con traducción. Atte Diego Acosta Bastidas El 31 de julio de 2015, 9:57, <jlaureano(a)aui.pe> escribió: > Estimados amigos del Staff, > > Mis saludos, agradecería registrar mi participación en este grupo. > > Atte. > > > Johnny Laureano > AUI PERU > > > > > El 2015-07-30 18:52, staff(a)atlarge.icann.org escribió: > >> [[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] >> >> Asunto: Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a >> la Difusi�n de At-Large y Sub-Comit� de Participaci�n >> De: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Desde: Gisella Gruber >> <gisella.gruber(a)icann.org<mailto:gisella.gruber@icann.org> > En >> nombre de Gisella Gruber >> <gisella.gruber(a)icann.org<mailto:gisella.gruber@icann.org> > >> Fecha: Mi�rcoles, 29 de julio 2015 20:24 >> Para: Dev Anand Teelucksingh >> <devtee(a)gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com> >, LACRALO lista de >> discusi�n <l >> c-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > >> Asunto: Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a >> la Difusi�n de At-Large y Sub-Comit� de Participaci�n >> >> >> >> >> De: >> <lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: >> lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > En nombre de Dev Anand Teelucksingh >> <devtee(a)gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com> > >> Fecha: S�bado, 25 de julio 2015 uno y cuarenta >> Para: lista de discusi�n de LACRALO <l >> c-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto: >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> > >> Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a >> la Difusi�n de At-Large y Sub-Comit� de Participaci�n >> >> >> Queridos todos, >> >> >> A medida que el ALAC acord� durante ICANN52, el Subcomit� de Extensi�n >> se ren >> la divulgaci�n y compromiso Subcomit�. >> >> >> La Extensi�n de Alcance y Compromiso Subcomit� ( http >> ://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ) >> - El desarrollo de una estrategia de At-Large en llegar a los >> posibles nuevos miembros de la Comunidad At-Large, >> - El desarrollo de una estrategia de At-Large de participar los >> miembros nuevos y existentes y >> - Trabajando en coordinaci�n con las RALO, At-Large grupos de trabajo, t >> es como el Grupo de Trabajo de Desarrollo de Capacidades ( >> https://community.icann.org/x/1Ic3Ag) y el Grupo de Trabajo >> Estrategia Nueva reuni�n ( https://community.icann.org/x/h4E0Aw) >> >> >> Si usted es la persona en LACRALO que est� interesado en ayudar a A >> -Large conseguir nuevos miembros y para conseguir que los miembros >> existentes m�s que participan en At-Large, inscr�base enviando un correo e >> tr�nico staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> el 31 de >> julio de 2015. >> >> >> Algunos de los elementos de trabajo inmediatos propuestos para el >> Subcomit� de Extensi�n y compromiso se puede encontrar en la p�gina wiki >> de E >> �n y Participaci�n en https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ >> >> >> Se solicita a los miembros existentes del Subcomit� ex Alcance deseen e >> tar en la nueva extensi�n y compromiso Subcomit� para reconfirmar por corr >> o electr�nico a staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> >> 31 de julio de 2015. >> >> >> Una llamada de la Sub-Comisi�n de Extensi�n y de compromiso se celebrar� >> el L >> 3 de agosto de 2015. Un Doodle ser� enviado el viernes, se confirmar� el 3 >> e julio por la ma�ana (UTC) y la hora de reuni�n m�s tarde ese d�a, UTC. >> >> >> >> >> Saludos cordiales, >> >> >> Dev Anand Teelucksingh >> Alcance interino y presidente del compromiso Subcomit� >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [[--Original text (en) >> http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/4642b5c061.html >> --]] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-es mailing list >> lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> >> http://www.lacralo.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org

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Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a la Difusi�n de At-Large y Sub-Comit� de Participaci�n
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org July 31, 2015

July 31, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a la Difusión de At-Large y Sub-Comité de Participación De: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Desde: Gisella Gruber <gisella.gruber(a)icann.org<mailto:gisella.gruber@icann.org> > En nombre de Gisella Gruber <gisella.gruber(a)icann.org<mailto:gisella.gruber@icann.org> > Fecha: Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 20:24 Para: Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com> >, LACRALO lista de discusión <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Asunto: Recordatorio! - Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a la Difusión de At-Large y Sub-Comité de Participación De: <lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > En nombre de Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com> > Fecha: Sábado, 25 de julio 2015 uno y cuarenta Para: lista de discusión de LACRALO <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] Convocatoria de At-Large personas a unirse a la Difusión de At-Large y Sub-Comité de Participación Queridos todos, A medida que el ALAC acordó durante ICANN52, el Subcomité de Extensión se renombró a la divulgación y compromiso Subcomité. La Extensión de Alcance y Compromiso Subcomité ( https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ) - El desarrollo de una estrategia de At-Large en llegar a los posibles nuevos miembros de la Comunidad At-Large, - El desarrollo de una estrategia de At-Large de participar los miembros nuevos y existentes y - Trabajando en coordinación con las RALO, At-Large grupos de trabajo, tales como el Grupo de Trabajo de Desarrollo de Capacidades ( https://community.icann.org/x/1Ic3Ag) y el Grupo de Trabajo Estrategia Nueva reunión ( https://community.icann.org/x/h4E0Aw) Si usted es la persona en LACRALO que está interesado en ayudar a At-Large conseguir nuevos miembros y para conseguir que los miembros existentes más que participan en At-Large, inscríbase enviando un correo electrónico staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> el 31 de julio de 2015. Algunos de los elementos de trabajo inmediatos propuestos para el Subcomité de Extensión y compromiso se puede encontrar en la página wiki de Extensión y Participación en https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ Se solicita a los miembros existentes del Subcomité ex Alcance deseen estar en la nueva extensión y compromiso Subcomité para reconfirmar por correo electrónico a staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> el 31 de julio de 2015. Una llamada de la Sub-Comisión de Extensión y de compromiso se celebrará el Lunes, 03 de agosto de 2015. Un Doodle será enviado el viernes, se confirmará el 31 de julio por la mañana (UTC) y la hora de reunión más tarde ese día, UTC. Saludos cordiales, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Alcance interino y presidente del compromiso Subcomité [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/4642b5c061.html --]]

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Reunión CEO ICANN con SO-AC-RALO
by Alberto Soto July 31, 2015

July 31, 2015

Acaba de finalizar la reunión mensual del CEO de ICANN con los líderes de SO-AC-RALO. Fadi nos ha solicitado transmitir a nuestra organizaciones, sus cálidas felicitaciones a los líderes y miembros de cada RALO que tanto y tan bien trabajaron en Buenos Aires 53. Que esos esfuerzos significaron avances sumamente importantes. Manifestó que es una verdadera muestra de que juntos, podemos trabajar y lograr excelentes resultados. En dicha reunión se informó que pronto estará implementada una matriz activa (Status Update on the SO-AC activity matrix). Manifesté que sería una buena herramienta que nos permitiría a nuestra RALO tomar temas sustantivos actuales, dado que tenemos en marcha una moción para dedicarle a estos temas, varios minutos en cada reunión mensual. Saludos cordiales Alberto Soto --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. http://www.avast.com

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Noticias del NOMCOM 2015 - 15
by sylvia＠internautabrasil.org July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

Estimados miembros de LACRALO: En anexo un resumen de nuestras actividad anteriores y durante ICANN 53, donde elegimos 9 entre 81 candidatos para ocupar diversos cargos, en ICANN, a partir del término de ICANN 54 en Dublín. El anuncio oficial de los mismos se realizará en agosto a través de la página del NOMCOM, https://www.icann.org/nomcom2015 Feedback y comentarios son bienvenidos!! Saludos Sylvia ___________________________________________________ Sylvia Herlein Leite <mailto:sylvia@internautabrasil.org> sylvia(a)internautabrasil.org LACRALO-ALAC Delegate to NomComm 2014-2016 One World, One Internet cid:26A2D0D9-E7A9-455D-BCDC-26757E8E3078 Secretaria FLUI 2009-2015 ex - Secretaria LACRALO-ICANN/ 2012-2014 – ex – ALAC Member 2009-2011 - <http://atlarge.icann.org/> http://atlarge.icann.org Skype: sylvia_leite Assinatura_Sylvia_Internautabrasil

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Re: Proceso a seguir para LACRALO ALAC Miembro Poll / Proceso a Seguir p�rrafo LACRALO ALAC Encuesta member
by carlosraulg＠gmail.com July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Proceso a seguir para LACRALO ALAC Miembro Poll / Proceso a Seguir párrafo LACRALO ALAC Encuesta member De: carlosraulg(a)gmail.com De acuerdo con mis comentarios anteriores, tal vez es hora de revisar las reglas en el alto espíritu de responsabilidad y transparencia que está floreciendo en toda la Corporación. Mejor Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez _____________________ correo electrónico: crg(a)isoc-cr.org <mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org> Skype: carlos.raulg +506 8837 7173 (cel) +506 4000 2000 (casa) +506 2290 3678 (fax) _____________________ Apartado 1571-1000 San José, COSTA RICA > On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com <mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com>> wrote: > > Hi everyone > I scoured the RoP and have not found any rule that says that the process must be restarted, per this email. I also have not found precedent in the only other case that exactly matches this one, i.e. 2008. Can you advise from where in the Rules was this "way forward" derived? > I would think that we must be very careful to follow the rules as laid out, and not go off track, else the process will lose all legitimacy and could be seen as a totalitarian attack on the democratic and transparent tradition of the At-Large. > Thanks > Jacqueline Morris > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > 2015-07-27 18:36 GMT-04:00 ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>>: > DESPUÃS DE VERSIÃN INGLESA DE LA VERSIÃN ESPAÃOLA > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Please see below a note being sent on behalf of Alberto Soto, Chair of LACRALO, and Humberto Carrasco, Secretary of LACRALO. > > > > ** > > > > Dear All, > > > In advance of the results of the current poll on whether or not Lance Hinds should be confirmed as the 2015-2017 ALAC Representative from LACRALO, we would like to set out the methodology to be used in determining the results. > > > > If a majority (more than 50%) of people responding to the poll, NOT counting abstentions, have indicated NO, then the selection process for the ALAC seat currently occupied by Fatima Cambronero will be restarted with a new call for nominations. > > > > Otherwise, the appointment of Lance Hinds as LACRALO ALAC Member for 2015-2017 is confirmed. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alberto and Humberto > > > > ** > > Kind Regards, > > At-Large Staff > > > > ** > > > > Estimados Todos, > > > Abajo encontrarÃ¡n una nota que estÃ¡ siendo enviada en nombre de Alberto Soto, Presidente de LACRALO y Humberto Carrasco, Secretario de LACRALO. > > > > ** > > > > Estimados Todos, > > > > En adelanto de los resultados de la reciente encuesta relativa a la confirmaciÃ³n de Lance Hinds como el representante de LACRALO ante ALAC por el periodo 2015-2017, quisiÃ©ramos establecer la metodologÃa a ser utilizada para determinar los resultados. > > > > Si una mayorÃa (mas del 50%) de las personas que respondieron a la encuesta, SIN contar las abstenciones, indicaron NO, entonces el proceso de selecciÃ³n para el asiento en ALAC, actualmente ocupado por Fatima Cambronero serÃ¡ reiniciado a travÃ©s de una nueva convocatoria. > > > De lo contrario, la nominaciÃ³n de Lance para ALAC para el periodo 2015-2017 serÃ¡ confirmada. > > > Saludos, > > Alberto y Humberto > > > > ** > > Atentamente, > > Personal de At-Large > > > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> > Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> > Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es <https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es> > > http://www.lacralo.org <http://www.lacralo.org/> > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/8888bdcd05.html --]]

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Re: Proceso a seguir para LACRALO ALAC Miembro Poll / Proceso a Seguir p�rrafo LACRALO ALAC Encuesta member
by carlosraulg＠gmail.com July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Proceso a seguir para LACRALO ALAC Miembro Poll / Proceso a Seguir párrafo LACRALO ALAC Encuesta member De: carlosraulg(a)gmail.com Se han propuesto una nueva ronda de votación Espero que Lance quedarse y ¡adelante! Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez _____________________ correo electrónico: crg(a)isoc-cr.org Skype: carlos.raulg +506 8837 7173 (cel) +506 4000 2000 (casa) +506 2290 3678 (fax) _____________________ Apartado 1571-1000 San José, COSTA RICA > On Jul 28, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Lance Hinds <brainstreetceo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > It would be extremely helpful if the President and Secretary to advise on the basis on which the 'way forward' was decided. Like Jacqueline, I see no reference in the Rules of Procedure. > > Best regards > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com <mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com>> wrote: > Hi everyone > I scoured the RoP and have not found any rule that says that the process must be restarted, per this email. I also have not found precedent in the only other case that exactly matches this one, i.e. 2008. Can you advise from where in the Rules was this "way forward" derived? > I would think that we must be very careful to follow the rules as laid out, and not go off track, else the process will lose all legitimacy and could be seen as a totalitarian attack on the democratic and transparent tradition of the At-Large. > Thanks > Jacqueline Morris > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > 2015-07-27 18:36 GMT-04:00 ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>>: > DESPUÃS DE VERSIÃN INGLESA DE LA VERSIÃN ESPAÃOLA > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Please see below a note being sent on behalf of Alberto Soto, Chair of LACRALO, and Humberto Carrasco, Secretary of LACRALO. > > > > ** > > > > Dear All, > > > In advance of the results of the current poll on whether or not Lance Hinds should be confirmed as the 2015-2017 ALAC Representative from LACRALO, we would like to set out the methodology to be used in determining the results. > > > > If a majority (more than 50%) of people responding to the poll, NOT counting abstentions, have indicated NO, then the selection process for the ALAC seat currently occupied by Fatima Cambronero will be restarted with a new call for nominations. > > > > Otherwise, the appointment of Lance Hinds as LACRALO ALAC Member for 2015-2017 is confirmed. > > > > Regards, > > > > Alberto and Humberto > > > > ** > > Kind Regards, > > At-Large Staff > > > > ** > > > > Estimados Todos, > > > Abajo encontrarÃ¡n una nota que estÃ¡ siendo enviada en nombre de Alberto Soto, Presidente de LACRALO y Humberto Carrasco, Secretario de LACRALO. > > > > ** > > > > Estimados Todos, > > > > En adelanto de los resultados de la reciente encuesta relativa a la confirmaciÃ³n de Lance Hinds como el representante de LACRALO ante ALAC por el periodo 2015-2017, quisiÃ©ramos establecer la metodologÃa a ser utilizada para determinar los resultados. > > > > Si una mayorÃa (mas del 50%) de las personas que respondieron a la encuesta, SIN contar las abstenciones, indicaron NO, entonces el proceso de selecciÃ³n para el asiento en ALAC, actualmente ocupado por Fatima Cambronero serÃ¡ reiniciado a travÃ©s de una nueva convocatoria. > > > De lo contrario, la nominaciÃ³n de Lance para ALAC para el periodo 2015-2017 serÃ¡ confirmada. > > > Saludos, > > Alberto y Humberto > > > > ** > > Atentamente, > > Personal de At-Large > > > > > > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC > > E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> > Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> > Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-es@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es <https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es> > > http://www.lacralo.org <http://www.lacralo.org/> > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en <https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en> > > > > > -- > Lance Hinds > Chief Technology Officer > BrainStreet Group > 287 'C' Albert St. > Georgetown Guyana > > > > > This message contains information that may be privileged and/or confidential and is the property of BrainStreet Technologies or BrainStreet Learning. The information contained herein is intended only for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to receive it . If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or take any action in reliance to the contents of this information or any part thereof and it may be unlawful to do so. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message from your system. BrainStreet Technologies or BrainStreet Learning are neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c39fbe86bb.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Request
by Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

I agree 1. translation is lousy 2. Carlton may be ironic, but not offensive in english at least Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg On 29 Jul 2015, at 19:44, Jacqueline Morris wrote: > Carlton? Seems to me that there are others who are way more "intense" in > their language than Carlton. At least it seems so in English. Maybe the > translation fails as he does often write at a very high level of English. > Can you send the text that was offensive? We can all look at it and see if > the original was offensive in intent or word, vs the translation. > Jacqueline > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:10 PM, <salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> >> Subject: Request >> From: salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com >> >> Formally ask the authorities of the LACRALO is prompted Mr. >> Carlton Samuels to moderate their language when addressing the members >> of the community. >> >> >> - >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> José Ovidio Salgueiro A. >> salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com >> >> >> >> [[--Original text (es) >> http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/7080e471c4.html >> --]] >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Solicitud
by michforde＠gmail.com July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Solicitud De: michforde(a)gmail.com Estoy de acuerdo con Jacqueline --- muchas contribuciones de Carlton pueden ser descritos como "intensa", y su vocabulario y uso de Inglés son a veces por encima de las normas cotidianas de uso común - pero nunca he visto nada de él que razonablemente podría ser descrito como "ofensiva". En el contrario siempre es escrupulosamente educado y casi formal, incluso cuando diametralmente en desacuerdo con un punto de vista particular. Atentamente Miguel El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 9:44 de la tarde, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com > wrote: > Carlton? Seems to me that there are others who are way more "intense" in > their language than Carlton. At least it seems so in English. Maybe the > translation fails as he does often write at a very high level of English. > Can you send the text that was offensive? We can all look at it and see if > the original was offensive in intent or word, vs the translation. > Jacqueline > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:10 PM, <salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> >> Subject: Request >> From: salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com >> >> Formally ask the authorities of the LACRALO is prompted Mr. >> Carlton Samuels to moderate their language when addressing the members >> of the community. >> >> >> - >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> JosÃ© Ovidio Salgueiro A. >> salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com >> >> >> [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/33fd2e3168.html --]]

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Re: Aplicaci�n
by chris.lahatte＠icann.org July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Aplicación De: chris.lahatte(a)icann.org Me doy cuenta de que hay diferencias entre los miembros de LACRALO y te puse necesita recordar sobre las reglas de combate en sus discusiones. Yo necesito aconsejarle que se me ha pedido que investigue formalmente, y que lo haré lo hacen para ver si hay problemas de equidad y procedimientos que deben ser examinado y si es necesario, cambiado o ajustado. Voy a llegar a aquellos que tienen problemas específicos, sino también la bienvenida a contacto directo, que puede ser confidencial si es necesario, Saludos Chris LaHatte Defensor del Pueblo Blog https://omblog.icann.org/ Http://www.icann.org/en/help/ombudsman página web Confidencialidad Todos los asuntos presentados ante el Defensor del Pueblo serán tratados de forma confidencial. El Defensor del Pueblo también adoptará todas las medidas razonables necesarias para preservar la la privacidad de, y para evitar daños a, esas partes no involucradas en la queja siendo investigado por el Defensor del Pueblo Ombudsman.The solamente hará preguntas sobre, o personal consejos o miembros de la Junta de la existencia y identidad, un demandante con el fin de avanzar en la resolución de la queja. El Defensor del Pueblo adoptará todas las medidas razonables necesarias para asegurar que si los miembros del personal y de la Junta son conscientes de la existencia y identidad del denunciante, que se compromete a mantener la confidencialidad de dicha información, salvo que sea necesario para promover la resolución de un queja -----Mensaje original----- Desde: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [Mailto: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre del asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Enviado el: Jueves, 30 de julio 2015 15:02 Para: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Aplicación [[--Translated Texto (es -> es) -]] Asunto: Re: Aplicación Desde: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Estimado José, tenemos estándares éticos para intervenir. Atentamente Alberto Soto Desde: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] En el nombre de José Ovidio Salgueiro Enviado el: Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 19:09 Para: LACRALO Español <lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Asunto: [lac-discuss-es] Solicitud Se pide formalmente a las autoridades de la LACRALO se le solicite el Sr. Carlton Samuels al dirigirse a los miembros de la comunidad a moderar su lenguaje. - JosOvidio Salgueiro A. salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com <mailto:salgueiro.jo@gmail.com> --- Software antivirus Avast exploró este correo electrónico en busca de virus. http://www.avast.com [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/019e426af8.html --]]

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Solicitud
by José Ovidio Salgueiro July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

Pido formalmente a las autoridades del LACRALO se le solicite al Sr. Carlton Samuels a moderar su lenguaje a la hora de dirigirse a los miembros de la comunidad. -- José Ovidio Salgueiro A. salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Solicitud
by jam＠jacquelinemorris.com July 30, 2015

July 30, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Solicitud De: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Carlton? Me parece que hay otros que son mucho más "intenso" en su lenguaje de Carlton. Por lo menos parece que lo que en Inglés. Tal vez el traducción falla como lo hace escribir a menudo a un nivel muy alto de Inglés. ¿Puedes enviar el texto que era ofensivo? Todos podemos mirar y ver si el original era ofensiva en la intención o la palabra, vs la traducción. Jacqueline Jacqueline A. Morris La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicuo, necesario, invisible y Gratis. (Después de que Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 6:10 de la tarde, <salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com> escribió: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Request > From: salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > Formally ask the authorities of the LACRALO is prompted Mr. > Carlton Samuels to moderate their language when addressing the members > of the community. > > > - > > > > > > > > > JosÃ© Ovidio Salgueiro A. > salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/848779fba9.html --]]

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Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votaci�n sobre Moci�n Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moci�n Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votación sobre Moción Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moción Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty De: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Con respecto Dev, al comentar sobre el movimiento ahora sería lo peor que hacer. La convocatoria de la votación es lo que la ley juzgaría como "ultra vires". Ese es decir la Secretaría ofende las reglas para llevar este movimiento a la voto, ya que está más allá de su autoridad legal. Si no se detiene el voto, estamos bien aconsejaron a ignorarlo. y el movimiento sigue siendo un desconocido hasta que se expone a debate. Otros remedios también están abiertos a los agraviados. -Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton Un Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * ============================= El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 5:56 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com> escribió: > I'm continue to be very disappointed at Alberto Soto and Humberto Carassco > in the performance of their duties as chair and secretariat. > > As per Rule 11.2 As a general rule, no draft resolution or amendment shall > be discussed or put to the vote unless it has been circulated sufficiently > in advance, but in no case less than two weeks, to all participants in the > working languages of the Assembly. > > THIS WAS NOT DONE. > > Can be motion be put on the wiki for comment? I'll comment on the motion > there, since there is an amendment I'll suggest. > > Kind Regards, > > Dev Anand > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:00 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff < > staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: > >> == EN == >> >> Dear All, >> >> Do you support Mr. Alejandro Pisantyâs motion? Formal Motion from >> Alejandro Pisanty: >> >> a. LACRALOâs Chair and Secretariat shall do an Agenda with policy issues >> for discussion. >> b. The first 30 minutes of each monthly call shall be focused on debate >> of current ICANN public consultations. >> >> * Yes >> * No >> * Abstain >> >> == ES == >> >> Hola a todos, >> >> Â¿Usted apoya la mociÃ³n de Alejandro Pisanty? >> >> a. que la Presidencia y la SecretarÃa hagan una agenda de temas de >> polÃticas para su discusiÃ³n >> b. que los primeros 30' de cada sesiÃ³n mensual se dediquen a temas >> sustantivos de debate de polÃticas en curso en consultas pÃºblicas de ICANN >> >> *Si >> *No >> *AbstenciÃ³n >> >> Regards, >> >> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie >> Peregrine and Terri Agnew >> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >> E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >> Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> >> atlarge <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> >> Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge >> <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/82ad456ce5.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Solicitud
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Solicitud De: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com José Ovidio: Supongo que está llamando para la protección de mi uso de Inglés por el Defensor del Pueblo de la ICANN, sí? Ahora, entiendo que el chico es de Nueva Zelanda, pero creo que tiene instalaciones con el Idioma Inglés. Yo soy el experto en el uso de Inglés donde importa ahora, aquí mismo. Así que yo le puedo ayudar adecuadamente según sea necesario, nos harías un favor y señalar específicamente EN INGLÉS la construcción lenguaje que utilicé ofende a su alteza? Con amabilidad, -Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton Un Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * ============================= 07.29.2015 17:09 GMT-05: 00 José Ovidio Salgueiro <salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com> : > Pido formalmente a las autoridades del LACRALO se le solicite al Sr. > Carlton Samuels a moderar su lenguaje a la hora de dirigirse a los miembros > de la comunidad. > > -- > > > > > JosÃ© Ovidio Salgueiro A. > salgueiro.jo(a)gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-es mailing list > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > http://www.lacralo.org > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b3dc01bf3f.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] = iso-8859-1 Proceso_elecci q = F3n_ALAC_Member = ????
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: = iso-8859-1 Proceso_elecci q = F3n_ALAC_Member = ???? De: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com No, eso no importa. Nota lugar la terminología ahora introducido; un '* percibida conflicto de intereses*'. Sé que las palabras comadreja cuando los veo, en Inglés o Español. Así que ahora, uno se queda preguntar quién era el agente de esta percepción? Cómo fue ¿se desarrollo? ¿Y qué medidas se utilizaron para calificar la percepción? Y teniendo en cuenta los hechos tal como los conocemos ahora, ¿qué medidas se emplearon para desengañar a la 'percepción'? -Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton Un Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * ============================= El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 2:57 de la tarde, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com > wrote: > Hi > I think there's some confusion. We have had a couple of consensus polls, > in 2008 it was an objection to a single nomination, as it is here. > In the other cases, it was because the teleconference was not quorate, and > the list is a quorum, so the consensus poll was done to ensure that the > decision was quorate. These cases are different on the face, and so should > not serve as precedent for this case. > The only precedent to be considered should be the 2008 one. > Sincerely > Jacqueline Morris > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM, <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> wrote: > >> >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> >> Subject: = iso-8859-1 Proceso_elecci q = F3n_ALAC_Member =???? >> From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org >> >> >> Dear, this is part of the mail where porqudel process explicel >> Voting: >> >> >> Now I want to remind you that last year we were Humberto and I, mechanics >> applicants. We should do votaciny accept the result. There were those who >> voted no, others abstained and others voted yes. >> >> >> The other case was particularly Natalia Enciso, unique candidate for ALAC >> Member. And it was the case that we take as a precedent. >> >> >> Mentioning the case of Sylvia Leite Herlen is not correct, we need >> make choice for that position. >> >> >> We pre-meeting with the staff and then taken the decision >> Lance was advised that the ballot will be made, taking as a precedent >> the case >> Natalia Enciso. >> >> >> ARE ongoing process and finalizarcon the ballot. >> >> >> This is the mail sent before the end of the votaciny on which >> no prior knowledge recibiningn comment is the result: >> >> >> Before the results of the current survey on whether or not >> Lance Hinds should be confirmed as the ALAC Representative 2015-2017 >> LACRALO would like us to establish the methodology to be utilizarpara >> determine the results. >> >> >> Whether a majority (over 50%) of the respondents to the >> survey, not counting abstentions indicated NO, then the process >> of selection of the seat currently occupied by Ftima ALAC Cambronero >> reiniciarcon a new call for applications. >> >> >> Otherwise, the appointment of Lance Hinds is confirmed as LACRALO >> ALAC member for 2015-2017. >> >> >> Remember that each RALO ALAC should choose its Member; thus >> we have made a choice according explained, taking three background >> Similar and applications for several members that were conducted in the >> meeting in Buenos Aires, who felt that the process was >> incomplete. >> >> >> In the interest of transparency, we reported before the result of the >> Voting next steps. >> >> >> In this regard we believe that it has complied with the report and why >> It corresponds to open a new period of postulacin, presentaciny ballot. >> >> >> It is worth remembering that there are many situations that do not >> expressly estn >> regulated as quisiramos. We must adopt a position basndonos >> in the rules and precedents that have. When there is a situation >> expressly regulated, we must choose one of the alternatives, reporting >> prior to the community. >> >> >> This is rational only solution we have found to solve this >> such drawbacks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> best regards >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Alberto Soto >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> Avast antivirus software has analyzed this e-mail for viruses. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c181ca6f90.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Regla 11.2
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Regla 11.2 De: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Roosevelt: Asuntos de ICANN lleva con Inglés, pero se ha recorrido un largo camino para incluir otros idiomas en sus operaciones. Algunos de nosotros luchó largo y duro para ese. Con respecto a las RALO, cada uno opera por reglas que desarrolla. Así que a partir de su creación, nos pusimos de acuerdo LACRALO sería multilingüe. Yo era un papel decisivo en esa decisión porque en principio, creo que uno debe tener el derecho a comunicar y defender el interés de uno en el idioma se habla mejor. Mis principios no mutan para mayor comodidad. Así por ejemplo, me animé que no hablan inglés a presentarse para el liderazgo en las mismas condiciones que los angloparlantes. Y en los primeros días nos en realidad los representantes electos que no hablan Inglés en el momento. Mirando hacia atrás, tal vez nos equivocamos con las operaciones multilingües campeón. Comparando LACRALO a los demás, utilice AFRALO Inglés y Francés, y APRALO EURALO, simplemente Inglés.Ellos no parecen tener los problemas que hacemos. -Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton Un Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * ============================= El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 2:34 de la tarde, BANGO <admin(a)bango.org.bb> escribió: > My! My! The official language of ICANN is English. Is it different in the > regions? Of course if you deem the official language to be Spanish in > LACRALO, Long live the Emperor. > > ROK > > -----Original Message----- > From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: > lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Humberto > Carrasco > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:30 > To: rok(a)bango.org.bb; 'Bartlett Morgan' > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Rule 11.2 > > Dear Roosvelt, > > Why do you think the official language is English in LACRALO? > > Regards > > El 29/07/2015 a las 08:27 p.m., Roosevelt King escribiÃ³: > > "In no case" means "under any circumstances", even if you say there are > exceptions, the exceptions would be one case/circumstance... the rule says, > "in no case". I am not sure what is so difficult about that to understand > or is it a case of unwillingness to understand? The English version does > not confirm your interpretation and hence there is no way that the Spanish > version could. Using language as a Red Herring? Is not the official > language English? The Spanish translators need to get it right? You > questioning the translation? That does not make you right??? > > > > ROK > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:49 > > To: rok(a)bango.org.bb; 'Bartlett Morgan' > > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Rule 11.2 > > > > I disagree. > > > > Furthermore, if you read the Spanish version, the wording confirms our > interpretation. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > El 29/07/2015 a las 07:23 p.m., Roosevelt King escribiÃ³: > >> Bartlett is correct. > >> > >> ROK > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of > >> Bartlett Morgan > >> Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 10:31 > >> To: Humberto Carrasco > >> Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Rule 11.2 > >> > >> Hi Humberto, > >> The controlling phrase in the rule is "in no case less than two weeks". > >> Therefore even in the case of exceptions, that requirement would have > to be complied with. > >> > >> I don't think your interpretation is faithful to the plain literal > meaning of the rule. > >> > >> $.02 > >> > >> -- > >> Bartlett Morgan > >> > >> Sent from my Cyanogen phone > >> > >> On Jul 29, 2015 9:33 AM, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>> Dear Dev, > >>> > >>> There is no misunderstanding. > >>> > >>> The rule says "As a general rule", in spanish "Como regla General". > This wording means, that there could be some exceptions. We used this > exception. > >>> > >>> I explained the reasons before. > >>> > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> > >>> El 29/07/2015 a las 02:06 p.m., Dev Anand Teelucksingh escribiÃ³: > >>>> I'll repost Rule 11.2 since there seems to be a misunderstanding. > >>>> > >>>> 11.2 As a general rule, no draft resolution or amendment shall be > discussed or put to the vote unless it has been circulated sufficiently in > advance, but in no case less than two weeks, to all participants in the > working languages of the Assembly. > >>>> > >>>> 11.2 Como regla general. sÃ³lo se tratarÃ¡n y se someterÃ¡n a votaciÃ³n > las resoluciones o enmiendas que se hayan distribuido con al menos dos > semanas de anticipaciÃ³n, a todos los participantes de la Asamblea, en todos > los idiomas con los que Ã©sta trabaje. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dev Anand > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> lac-discuss-en mailing list > >>>> > >>>> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >>>> > >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > >>>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> lac-discuss-en mailing list > >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > >> > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/b62db86bea.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Regla 11.2
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Regla 11.2 De: carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com Um, bueno, aquí vamos de nuevo. La ignorancia de LACRALO institucional arreglos ya está pasado problemático. Una vez más, insto a los dirigentes a tomar y estudiar los instrumentos. Usted no están haciendo a ti mismo orgullosa en estos episodios. Y peor aún, hay una cierta arrogancia toparse con la ignorancia. El lenguaje se define en los Principios de funcionamiento, una lectura obligada para el Secretaría. Aquí está la sección correspondiente, en Inglés: Principios de funcionamiento: * "El LacRALO será multilingüe desde su inicio. Todos los documentos * * Serán escritos y todos los debates se llevarán a cabo en Inglés y Español. Ello* * Se planea añadir el portugués y el francés en un futuro próximo y hasta * * Reevaluar periódicamente la necesidad de añadir otros idiomas utilizados en la región. "* Esa es una definición de funcionario como podamos. -Carlton Samuels ============================== Carlton Un Samuels Móvil: 876-818-1799 * Estrategia, Planeación, Gobierno, Evaluación y plazos de entrega * ============================= El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 2:43 de la tarde, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> escribió: > Well, > > I am not saying that Spanish is the official language. I say that we have > no official language in LACRALO because our Operative principles and RoP > say nothing about that. > > Regards > > El 29/07/2015 a las 08:34 p.m., BANGO escribiÃ³: > >> My! My! The official language of ICANN is English. Is it different in the >> regions? Of course if you deem the official language to be Spanish in >> LACRALO, Long live the Emperor. >> >> ROK >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto: >> lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Humberto >> Carrasco >> Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:30 >> To: rok(a)bango.org.bb; 'Bartlett Morgan' >> Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Rule 11.2 >> >> Dear Roosvelt, >> >> Why do you think the official language is English in LACRALO? >> >> Regards >> >> El 29/07/2015 a las 08:27 p.m., Roosevelt King escribiÃ³: >> >>> "In no case" means "under any circumstances", even if you say there are >>> exceptions, the exceptions would be one case/circumstance... the rule says, >>> "in no case". I am not sure what is so difficult about that to understand >>> or is it a case of unwillingness to understand? The English version does >>> not confirm your interpretation and hence there is no way that the Spanish >>> version could. Using language as a Red Herring? Is not the official >>> language English? The Spanish translators need to get it right? You >>> questioning the translation? That does not make you right??? >>> >>> ROK >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Humberto Carrasco [mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:49 >>> To: rok(a)bango.org.bb; 'Bartlett Morgan' >>> Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Rule 11.2 >>> >>> I disagree. >>> >>> Furthermore, if you read the Spanish version, the wording confirms our >>> interpretation. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> El 29/07/2015 a las 07:23 p.m., Roosevelt King escribiÃ³: >>> >>>> Bartlett is correct. >>>> >>>> ROK >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> [mailto:lac-discuss-en-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of >>>> Bartlett Morgan >>>> Sent: Wednesday, 29 July 2015 10:31 >>>> To: Humberto Carrasco >>>> Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Rule 11.2 >>>> >>>> Hi Humberto, >>>> The controlling phrase in the rule is "in no case less than two weeks". >>>> Therefore even in the case of exceptions, that requirement would have >>>> to be complied with. >>>> >>>> I don't think your interpretation is faithful to the plain literal >>>> meaning of the rule. >>>> >>>> $.02 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bartlett Morgan >>>> >>>> Sent from my Cyanogen phone >>>> >>>> On Jul 29, 2015 9:33 AM, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Dev, >>>>> >>>>> There is no misunderstanding. >>>>> >>>>> The rule says "As a general rule", in spanish "Como regla General". >>>>> This wording means, that there could be some exceptions. We used this >>>>> exception. >>>>> >>>>> I explained the reasons before. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> El 29/07/2015 a las 02:06 p.m., Dev Anand Teelucksingh escribiÃ³: >>>>> >>>>>> I'll repost Rule 11.2 since there seems to be a misunderstanding. >>>>>> >>>>>> 11.2 As a general rule, no draft resolution or amendment shall be >>>>>> discussed or put to the vote unless it has been circulated sufficiently in >>>>>> advance, but in no case less than two weeks, to all participants in the >>>>>> working languages of the Assembly. >>>>>> >>>>>> 11.2 Como regla general. sÃ³lo se tratarÃ¡n y se someterÃ¡n a votaciÃ³n >>>>>> las resoluciones o enmiendas que se hayan distribuido con al menos dos >>>>>> semanas de anticipaciÃ³n, a todos los participantes de la Asamblea, en todos >>>>>> los idiomas con los que Ã©sta trabaje. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dev Anand >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> lac-discuss-en mailing list >>>>>> >>>>>> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>>>> >>>>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> lac-discuss-en mailing list >>>> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/3a455b0343.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] = iso-8859-1 Proceso_elecci q = F3n_ALAC_Member = ????
by crg＠isoc-cr.org July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: = iso-8859-1 Proceso_elecci q = F3n_ALAC_Member = ???? De: crg(a)isoc-cr.org Gracias Jacqueline, en beneficio de las generaciones futuras, deja para tener toda la historia bien documentada contra de las reglas y los acuerdos existentes en el momento de cada elección. Sería un ejercicio más útil en la discusión acerca de nuevas reglas si es necesario. Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez _____________________ correo electrónico: crg(a)isoc-cr.org Skype: carlos.raulg +506 8837 7173 (cel) +506 4000 2000 (casa) +506 2290 3678 (fax) _____________________ Apartado 1571-1000 San José, COSTA RICA > On Jul 29, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> wrote: > > Hi > I think there's some confusion. We have had a couple of consensus polls, in 2008 it was an objection to a single nomination, as it is here. > In the other cases, it was because the teleconference was not quorate, and the list is a quorum, so the consensus poll was done to ensure that the decision was quorate. These cases are different on the face, and so should not serve as precedent for this case. > The only precedent to be considered should be the 2008 one. > Sincerely > Jacqueline Morris > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 6:20 PM, <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org>> wrote: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: = iso-8859-1 Proceso_elecci q = F3n_ALAC_Member =???? > From: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org <mailto:asoto@ibero-americano.org> > > Dear, this is part of the mail where porqudel process explicel > Voting: > > > Now I want to remind you that last year we were Humberto and I, mechanics > applicants. We should do votaciny accept the result. There were those who > voted no, others abstained and others voted yes. > > > The other case was particularly Natalia Enciso, unique candidate for ALAC > Member. And it was the case that we take as a precedent. > > > Mentioning the case of Sylvia Leite Herlen is not correct, we need > make choice for that position. > > > We pre-meeting with the staff and then taken the decision > Lance was advised that the ballot will be made, taking as a precedent the case > Natalia Enciso. > > > ARE ongoing process and finalizarcon the ballot. > > > This is the mail sent before the end of the votaciny on which > no prior knowledge recibiningn comment is the result: > > > Before the results of the current survey on whether or not > Lance Hinds should be confirmed as the ALAC Representative 2015-2017 > LACRALO would like us to establish the methodology to be utilizarpara > determine the results. > > > Whether a majority (over 50%) of the respondents to the > survey, not counting abstentions indicated NO, then the process > of selection of the seat currently occupied by Ftima ALAC Cambronero > reiniciarcon a new call for applications. > > > Otherwise, the appointment of Lance Hinds is confirmed as LACRALO > ALAC member for 2015-2017. > > > Remember that each RALO ALAC should choose its Member; thus > we have made a choice according explained, taking three background > Similar and applications for several members that were conducted in the > meeting in Buenos Aires, who felt that the process was > incomplete. > > > In the interest of transparency, we reported before the result of the > Voting next steps. > > > In this regard we believe that it has complied with the report and why > It corresponds to open a new period of postulacin, presentaciny ballot. > > > It is worth remembering that there are many situations that do not expressly estn > regulated as quisiramos. We must adopt a position basndonos > in the rules and precedents that have. When there is a situation > expressly regulated, we must choose one of the alternatives, reporting > prior to the community. > > > This is rational only solution we have found to solve this > such drawbacks. > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > --- > Avast antivirus software has analyzed this e-mail for viruses. > http://www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/> > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/1a333e9d44.html --]]

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Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votaci�n sobre Moci�n Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moci�n Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty
by hcarrascob＠gmail.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votación sobre Moción Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moción Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty De: hcarrascob(a)gmail.com Querida Jacqueline, Alberto y yo hablamos de su propuesta y creemos que este es un buen solución para el problema al que nos enfrentamos ahora. Creo que Alejandro Pisanty no tiene ningún problema con esto. Vamos a celebrar las elecciones para las 2 semanas. Saludos El 29/07/2015 a las 20:48, Jacqueline Morris escribio: > Dear all > If it was proposed on July 20th in the meeting, why was it only posted > to the list as a motion over a week later? Some of us work and cannot > attend the meetings at the proposed time. The list acts as the virtual > GA. > I'd like to request a hold on the poll for the 2 weeks per rule 11.2 > so that all of us have the requisite 2 weeks to consider the motion, > and any points of order thereof. > Sincerely > Jacqueline Morris > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Humberto Carrasco > <hcarrascob(a)gmail.com <mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Dear Dev, > > Your quotation is right. However, the same rule says, "As a > general rule", which means that there is an exception. It is true > that we did not wait 2 weeks. The reason is because Alejandro > Pisanty proposed this resolution the 20th of July in our general > meeting with translation in English, Spanish and Portuguese. We > understood that the proposal had been known for a significant > number of members of LACRALO on day 20th of July. Also, the > proposal does not seem to be a complex motion that requires > detailed analysis. Therefore, we used the exceptional power to > vote on this motion without waiting the two weeks period. > > In any case, we will put the motion for comments as you requested > on the wiki. > > Regards > > > El 29/07/2015 a las 11:56 a.m., Dev Anand Teelucksingh escribiÃ³: >> I'm continue to be very disappointed at Alberto Soto and Humberto >> Carassco in the performance of their duties as chair and secretariat. >> >> As per Rule 11.2 As a general rule, no draft resolution or >> amendment shall be discussed or put to the vote unless it has >> been circulated sufficiently in advance, but in no case less than >> two weeks, to all participants in the working languages of the >> Assembly. >> >> THIS WAS NOT DONE. >> >> Can be motion be put on the wiki for comment? I'll comment on the >> motion there, since there is an amendment I'll suggest. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Dev Anand >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:00 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff >> <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>> wrote: >> >> == EN == >> >> Dear All, >> >> Do you support Mr. Alejandro Pisantyâs motion? Formal Motion >> from Alejandro Pisanty: >> >> a. LACRALOâs Chair and Secretariat shall do an Agenda with >> policy issues for discussion. >> b. The first 30 minutes of each monthly call shall be focused >> on debate of current ICANN public consultations. >> * Yes >> * No >> * Abstain >> >> == ES == >> >> Hola a todos, >> >> Â¿Usted apoya la mociÃ³n de Alejandro Pisanty? >> >> a. que la Presidencia y la SecretarÃa hagan una agenda de >> temas de polÃticas para su discusiÃ³n >> b. que los primeros 30' de cada sesiÃ³n mensual se dediquen a >> temas sustantivos de debate de polÃticas en curso en >> consultas pÃºblicas de ICANN >> >> *Si >> *No >> *AbstenciÃ³n >> >> Regards, >> >> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, >> Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew >> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >> E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> >> Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann >> <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge >> <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> >> Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge >> <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> <mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > <mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/3d4bb4da5c.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Regla 11.2
by rok＠bango.org.bb July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Regla 11.2 De: rok(a)bango.org.bb Hablé de la lengua oficial en la ICANN, que es el Inglés. Humberto introdujo LACRALO que es cuando le pregunté si él está considerando español siendo la lengua oficial de LACRALO. No estoy seguro de cómo que se suma a no leer las reglas? República de Corea Desde: Jacqueline Morris [mailto: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com] Enviado: Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 16:18 Para: Humberto Carrasco Cc: Roosvelt O. Rey; Webmaster; Bartlett Morgan; lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Regla 11.2 Pienso que cada uno debe parar y leer los Principios de funcionamiento. LACRALO comenzó como un grupo bilingüe. La primera en ICANN. Los planes eran para aumentar el número de idiomas de funcionamiento, según sea necesario. Fue el primero que se decidió en la primera reunión de planificación para crear LACRALO. Así que la República de Corea y Humberto, ambos están equivocados. Sinceramente, y conseguir bastante harto de la gente que no lee las reglas antes de discutir como si saben hechos. Jacqueline [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/5a81c9ab99.html --]]

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Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votaci�n sobre Moci�n Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moci�n Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty
by jam＠jacquelinemorris.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votación sobre Moción Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moción Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty De: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Gracias Jacqueline A. Morris La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicuo, necesario, invisible y Gratis. (Después de que Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 4:41 de la tarde, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> escribió: > Dear Jacqueline, > Alberto and I discussed your proposal and we believe this is a good > solution for the problem that we face now. > I believe Alejandro Pisanty does not have any problem with this. > We are going to hold the poll for the 2 weeks. > Regards > > > > > El 29/07/2015 a las 08:48 p.m., Jacqueline Morris escribiÃ³: > > Dear all > If it was proposed on July 20th in the meeting, why was it only posted to > the list as a motion over a week later? Some of us work and cannot attend > the meetings at the proposed time. The list acts as the virtual GA. > I'd like to request a hold on the poll for the 2 weeks per rule 11.2 so > that all of us have the requisite 2 weeks to consider the motion, and any > points of order thereof. > Sincerely > Jacqueline Morris > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Dev, >> >> Your quotation is right. However, the same rule says, "As a general >> rule", which means that there is an exception. It is true that we did not >> wait 2 weeks. The reason is because Alejandro Pisanty proposed this >> resolution the 20th of July in our general meeting with translation in >> English, Spanish and Portuguese. We understood that the proposal had been >> known for a significant number of members of LACRALO on day 20th of July. >> Also, the proposal does not seem to be a complex motion that requires >> detailed analysis. Therefore, we used the exceptional power to vote on this >> motion without waiting the two weeks period. >> >> In any case, we will put the motion for comments as you requested on the >> wiki. >> >> Regards >> >> >> El 29/07/2015 a las 11:56 a.m., Dev Anand Teelucksingh escribiÃ³: >> >> I'm continue to be very disappointed at Alberto Soto and Humberto >> Carassco in the performance of their duties as chair and secretariat. >> >> As per Rule 11.2 As a general rule, no draft resolution or amendment >> shall be discussed or put to the vote unless it has been circulated >> sufficiently in advance, but in no case less than two weeks, to all >> participants in the working languages of the Assembly. >> >> THIS WAS NOT DONE. >> >> Can be motion be put on the wiki for comment? I'll comment on the motion >> there, since there is an amendment I'll suggest. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Dev Anand >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:00 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff < >> staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> wrote: >> >>> == EN == >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Do you support Mr. Alejandro Pisantyâs motion? Formal Motion from >>> Alejandro Pisanty: >>> >>> a. LACRALOâs Chair and Secretariat shall do an Agenda with policy >>> issues for discussion. >>> b. The first 30 minutes of each monthly call shall be focused on debate >>> of current ICANN public consultations. >>> >>> * Yes >>> * No >>> * Abstain >>> >>> == ES == >>> >>> Hola a todos, >>> >>> Â¿Usted apoya la mociÃ³n de Alejandro Pisanty? >>> >>> a. que la Presidencia y la SecretarÃa hagan una agenda de temas de >>> polÃticas para su discusiÃ³n >>> b. que los primeros 30' de cada sesiÃ³n mensual se dediquen a temas >>> sustantivos de debate de polÃticas en curso en consultas pÃºblicas de ICANN >>> >>> *Si >>> *No >>> *AbstenciÃ³n >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie >>> Peregrine and Terri Agnew >>> ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC >>> E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org >>> Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> >>> atlarge <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> >>> Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge >>> <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> lac-discuss-en mailing list >>> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing listlac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.orghttps://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/746f397bf4.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Regla 11.2
by jam＠jacquelinemorris.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Regla 11.2 De: jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com Es cierto, Lance, que eran una de esas almas incondicionales ultimando texto que significaba lo mismo en varios idiomas, con demasiados abogados en el ¡habitación! Ustedes hicieron increíble. Lástima que los primeros trabajos está tan olvidado. Jacqueline A. Morris La tecnología debe ser como el oxígeno: Ubicuo, necesario, invisible y Gratis. (Después de que Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 4:39 de la tarde, en Lance Hinds <brainstreetceo(a)gmail.com> escribió: > Long days as I recall. All in order to ensure there was balance, fairness > and clarity on both sides > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Jacqueline Morris < > jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> wrote: > >> BTW - the documents were written in both Spanish and English at the same >> time. Neither was a simple translation from the other. Ask Carlton about >> that process. >> JAM >> >> Jacqueline A. Morris >> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and >> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Jacqueline Morris < >> jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Roosevelt >>> You wrote and I quote: >>> "Is not the official language English? The Spanish translators need to >>> get it right? You questioning the translation? " >>> >>> Unfortunately you didn't refer to the official language of who or what >>> here. >>> >>> Given that LACRALO is the topic of discussion, I think it only >>> reasonable for the reader to assume that you meant the official language of >>> LACRALO. I certainly read it as such. >>> We try our best to function in a bi- and tri-lingual way. It helps to be >>> extremely clear and be sure to clearly spell out subject and object when >>> writing in this sort of environment. >>> >>> My $0.02 >>> >>> Jacqueline A. Morris >>> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and >>> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Roosevelt King <rok(a)bango.org.bb> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I spoke of the official language in ICANN, which is English. Humberto >>>> introduced LACRALO which is when I asked him if he is deeming Spanish to be >>>> the official language of LACRALO. I am not sure how that adds up to not >>>> reading the rules? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ROK >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Jacqueline Morris [mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com] >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:18 >>>> *To:* Humberto Carrasco >>>> *Cc:* Roosvelt O. King; Webmaster; Bartlett Morgan; >>>> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] Rule 11.2 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I think EVERYONE should stop and read the Operating Principles. LACRALO >>>> started as a BILINGUAL group. The first in ICANN. The plans were to >>>> increase the number of operating languages as necessary. It was the first >>>> thing decided at the first planning meeting to create LACRALO. >>>> >>>> So ROK and Humberto, you are both wrong. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, and getting quite fed up with people who do not read the >>>> rules before discussing them as if they know facts. >>>> >>>> Jacqueline >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> > > > -- > Lance Hinds > Chief Technology Officer > BrainStreet Group > 287 'C' Albert St. > Georgetown Guyana > > > > > This message contains information that may be privileged and/or > confidential and is the property of BrainStreet Technologies or BrainStreet > Learning. The information contained herein is intended only for the > individual or entity to whom it is addressed and others authorized to > receive it . If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized > to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or take any action > in reliance to the contents of this information or any part thereof and it > may be unlawful to do so. If you receive this message in error, please > notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message from > your system. BrainStreet Technologies or BrainStreet Learning are neither > liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information > contained in this communication nor any delay in its receipt. > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/15465bb6b5.html --]]

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] Regla 11.2
by brainstreetceo＠gmail.com July 29, 2015

July 29, 2015

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Regla 11.2 De: brainstreetceo(a)gmail.com Largos días por lo que recuerdo. Todo con el fin de asegurarse de que no era el equilibrio, la equidad y claridad en ambos lados El Miércoles, 29 de julio 2015 a las 4:36 de la tarde, Jacqueline Morris <jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com > wrote: > BTW - the documents were written in both Spanish and English at the same > time. Neither was a simple translation from the other. Ask Carlton about > that process. > JAM > > Jacqueline A. Morris > Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and > Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Jacqueline Morris < > jam(a)jacquelinemorris.com> wrote: > >> Dear Roosevelt >> You wrote and I quote: >> "Is not the official language English? The Spanish translators need to >> get it right? You questioning the translation? " >> >> Unfortunately you didn't refer to the official language of who or what >> here. >> >> Given that LACRALO is the topic of discussion, I think it only reasonable >> for the reader to assume that you meant the official language of LACRALO. I >> certainly read it as such. >> We try our best to function in a bi- and tri-lingual way. It helps to be >> extremely clear and be sure to clearly spell out subject and object when >> writing in this sort of environment. >> >> My $0.02 >> >> Jacqueline A. Morris >> Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and >> Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> ) >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Roosevelt King <rok(a)bango.org.bb> wrote: >> >>> I spoke of the official language in ICANN, which is English. Humberto >>> introduced LACRALO which is when I asked him if he is deeming Spanish to be >>> the official language of LACRALO. I am not sure how that adds up to not >>> reading the rules? >>> >>> >>> >>> ROK >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Jacqueline Morris [mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com] >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:18 >>> *To:* Humberto Carrasco >>> *Cc:* Roosvelt O. King; Webmaster; Bartlett Morgan; >>> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> *Subject:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] Rule 11.2 >>> >>> >>> >>> I think EVERYONE should stop and read the Operating Principles. LACRALO >>> started as a BILINGUAL group. The first in ICANN. The plans were to >>> increase the number of operating languages as necessary. It was the first >>> thing decided at the first planning meeting to create LACRALO. >>> >>> So ROK and Humberto, you are both wrong. >>> >>> Sincerely, and getting quite fed up with people who do not read the >>> rules before discussing them as if they know facts. >>> >>> Jacqueline >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > Lanza Hinds Jefe De Tecnología BrainStreet Grupo 287 'C' Albert St. Georgetown Guyana Este mensaje contiene información que puede contener información privilegiada y / o confidencial y es propiedad de Tecnologías BrainStreet o BrainStreet Aprender. La información contenida en este documento está destinado sólo para la persona o entidad a quien va dirigida y otros autorizado para recíbelo .Si usted no es el destinatario previsto, no está autorizado para leer, imprimir, retener, copiar, divulgar, distribuir o tomar cualquier acción confiando al contenido de esta información o parte de ella y puede ser ilegal hacerlo. Si recibe este mensaje por error, por favor notifique inmediatamente al remitente y elimine todas las copias de este mensaje su sistema. Tecnologías BrainStreet o BrainStreet aprendizaje son ni responsable de la transmisión adecuada y completa de la información contenida en esta comunicación ni ningún retraso en su recepción. [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/330824c5cd.html --]]

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