Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votaci�n sobre Moci�n Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moci�n Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty
[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votación sobre Moción Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moción Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty De: hcarrascob@gmail.com Querida Jacqueline, Alberto y yo hablamos de su propuesta y creemos que este es un buen solución para el problema al que nos enfrentamos ahora. Creo que Alejandro Pisanty no tiene ningún problema con esto. Vamos a celebrar las elecciones para las 2 semanas. Saludos El 29/07/2015 a las 20:48, Jacqueline Morris escribio:
Dear all If it was proposed on July 20th in the meeting, why was it only posted to the list as a motion over a week later? Some of us work and cannot attend the meetings at the proposed time. The list acts as the virtual GA. I'd like to request a hold on the poll for the 2 weeks per rule 11.2 so that all of us have the requisite 2 weeks to consider the motion, and any points of order thereof. Sincerely Jacqueline Morris
Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob@gmail.com <mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Dev,
Your quotation is right. However, the same rule says, "As a general rule", which means that there is an exception. It is true that we did not wait 2 weeks. The reason is because Alejandro Pisanty proposed this resolution the 20th of July in our general meeting with translation in English, Spanish and Portuguese. We understood that the proposal had been known for a significant number of members of LACRALO on day 20th of July. Also, the proposal does not seem to be a complex motion that requires detailed analysis. Therefore, we used the exceptional power to vote on this motion without waiting the two weeks period.
In any case, we will put the motion for comments as you requested on the wiki.
Regards
El 29/07/2015 a las 11:56 a.m., Dev Anand Teelucksingh escribió:
I'm continue to be very disappointed at Alberto Soto and Humberto Carassco in the performance of their duties as chair and secretariat.
As per Rule 11.2 As a general rule, no draft resolution or amendment shall be discussed or put to the vote unless it has been circulated sufficiently in advance, but in no case less than two weeks, to all participants in the working languages of the Assembly.
THIS WAS NOT DONE.
Can be motion be put on the wiki for comment? I'll comment on the motion there, since there is an amendment I'll suggest.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:00 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>> wrote:
== EN ==
Dear All,
Do you support Mr. Alejandro Pisantyâs motion? Formal Motion from Alejandro Pisanty:
a. LACRALOâs Chair and Secretariat shall do an Agenda with policy issues for discussion. b. The first 30 minutes of each monthly call shall be focused on debate of current ICANN public consultations. * Yes * No * Abstain
== ES ==
Hola a todos,
¿Usted apoya la moción de Alejandro Pisanty?
a. que la Presidencia y la SecretarÃa hagan una agenda de temas de polÃticas para su discusión b. que los primeros 30' de cada sesión mensual se dediquen a temas sustantivos de debate de polÃticas en curso en consultas públicas de ICANN
*Si *No *Abstención
Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
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Humberto, todos, yo no tengo inconveniente en posponer la el voto de esta propuesta. Ud. y Alberto proceden con prudencia y los apoyo. Alejandro Pisanty On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 3:42 PM, <hcarrascob@gmail.com> wrote:
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Asunto: Re: ANUNCIO VOTO: LACRALO Votación sobre Moción Propuesta de Alejandro Pisanty / Voto de LACRALO Sobre la moción Propuesta por Alejandro Pisanty De: hcarrascob@gmail.com
Querida Jacqueline, Alberto y yo hablamos de su propuesta y creemos que este es un buen solución para el problema al que nos enfrentamos ahora. Creo que Alejandro Pisanty no tiene ningún problema con esto. Vamos a celebrar las elecciones para las 2 semanas. Saludos
El 29/07/2015 a las 20:48, Jacqueline Morris escribio:
Dear all If it was proposed on July 20th in the meeting, why was it only posted to the list as a motion over a week later? Some of us work and cannot attend the meetings at the proposed time. The list acts as the virtual GA. I'd like to request a hold on the poll for the 2 weeks per rule 11.2 so that all of us have the requisite 2 weeks to consider the motion, and any points of order thereof. Sincerely Jacqueline Morris
Jacqueline A. Morris Technology should be like oxygen: Ubiquitous, Necessary, Invisible and Free. (after Chris Lehmann <http://twitter.com/chrislehmann> )
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Humberto Carrasco <hcarrascob@gmail.com <mailto:hcarrascob@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Dev,
Your quotation is right. However, the same rule says, "As a general rule", which means that there is an exception. It is true that we did not wait 2 weeks. The reason is because Alejandro Pisanty proposed this resolution the 20th of July in our general meeting with translation in English, Spanish and Portuguese. We understood that the proposal had been known for a significant number of members of LACRALO on day 20th of July. Also, the proposal does not seem to be a complex motion that requires detailed analysis. Therefore, we used the exceptional power to vote on this motion without waiting the two weeks period.
In any case, we will put the motion for comments as you requested on the wiki.
Regards
El 29/07/2015 a las 11:56 a.m., Dev Anand Teelucksingh escribió:
I'm continue to be very disappointed at Alberto Soto and Humberto Carassco in the performance of their duties as chair and
secretariat.
As per Rule 11.2 As a general rule, no draft resolution or amendment shall be discussed or put to the vote unless it has been circulated sufficiently in advance, but in no case less than two weeks, to all participants in the working languages of the Assembly.
THIS WAS NOT DONE.
Can be motion be put on the wiki for comment? I'll comment on the motion there, since there is an amendment I'll suggest.
Kind Regards,
Dev Anand
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:00 PM, ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org>> wrote:
== EN ==
Dear All,
Do you support Mr. Alejandro Pisanty’s motion? Formal Motion from Alejandro Pisanty:
a. LACRALO’s Chair and Secretariat shall do an Agenda with policy issues for discussion. b. The first 30 minutes of each monthly call shall be focused on debate of current ICANN public consultations. * Yes * No * Abstain
== ES ==
Hola a todos,
¿Usted apoya la moción de Alejandro Pisanty?
a. que la Presidencia y la SecretarÃa hagan una agenda de temas de polÃticas para su discusión b. que los primeros 30' de cada sesión mensual se dediquen a temas sustantivos de debate de polÃticas en curso en consultas públicas de ICANN
*Si *No *Abstención
Regards,
Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff@atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org
Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>
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