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Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] New Public Comment: Draft Framework of Principles for Cross Community Working Groups
by Alejandro Pisanty Feb. 23, 2016

Feb. 23, 2016

Colegas, llega este anuncio de apertura de un período de comentarios públicos sobre los grupos de trabajo trans-comunitarios en ICANN. Es posible que sea de interés e importancia estudiar el documento y en su caso que LACRALO se manifieste al respecto. Los CCWGs tienen entre sus principales virtudes el interconectar componentes de ICANN que estarían aislados dentro del diseño matricial de la organización (en SOs y ACs), y entre sus principales problemas el constituir nuevos centros de poder y oportunidades de captura, crear interferencias sobre mecanismos de las entidades establecidas, lentitud y dificultades para alcanzar consenso, y, como en otras estructuras, los riesgos de falta de transparencia sobre los intereses de los participantes. Hay en esta comunidad algunos miembros con experiencia en distintos CCWGs o bien con experiencia fuera de los CCWGs que permite formar opiniones informadas. Ojalá sea un tema de interés. Alejandro Pisanty ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ICANN At-Large Staff <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Date: Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 9:38 PM Subject: [ALAC-Announce] New Public Comment: Draft Framework of Principles for Cross Community Working Groups To: "alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" < alac-announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org>, "at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org" < at-large(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> Dear All, This is to let you know that the Public Comment on the Draft Framework of Principles for Cross Community Working Groups has now gone live: https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ccwg-framework-principles-draft-2016-… . Public comment will end on 2 April 2016 23:59 UTC. During this period, anyone can submit comment via comments-ccwg-framework-principles-22feb16(a)icann.org. As an advisory committee of ICANN, the ALAC submits Statements on Public Comment and advises on policy matters related to the interest of Internet users worldwide. Not just limited to the 15 ALAC members, members from the wider At-Large community are welcome to draft a Statement on behalf of the ALAC. If you are interested in drafting an ALAC Statement on this Public Comment, kindly contact staff(a)atlarge.icann.org. At-Large Staff will follow up and help you understand the procedure. Additionally, the wiki workspace for developing a potential ALAC Statement is here: https://community.icann.org/x/ZxaAAw. All pertinent resources for this public comment can also be found there. Regards, Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine and Terri Agnew ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> atlarge <https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @ <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge <https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> _______________________________________________ ALAC-Announce mailing list ALAC-Announce(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-announce At-Large Official Site: http://www.atlarge.icann.org -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico +52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD +525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Re: Proyecci�n y Participaci�n SC
by ariel.liang＠icann.org Feb. 23, 2016

Feb. 23, 2016

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Proyección y Participación SC De: ariel.liang(a)icann.org Gracias Alberto, Karlene se ha eliminado de la lista de correo. Mejor, Ariel De: Alberto Soto <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> Fecha: Lunes, 22 de febrero de, 2016 a 20:47 A: personal de ICANN At-Large <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> Cc: 'lista de LACRALO' <lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> , 'Karlene Francis ' <karlenef(a)gmail.com> Asunto: RE: [lac-discuss-es] Proyección y Participación SC Estimado, por favor, se puede eliminar una lista de correo para Karlene Francisco [Mailto: karlenef(a)gmail.com] La ELA es la Universidad de las Indias Occidentales. ¡Gracias! Saludos cordiales Alberto De: Karlene Francis [mailto: karlenef(a)gmail.com] Enviado EL: lunes, 22 de febrero de 2016 22:27 Para: Alberto Soto CC: lista de LACRALO Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Proyección y Participación SC Estimado Alberto, Pertenezco a la UWI. Gracias por adelantado. Sinceramente, karlene Francisco > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> > Date: Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC > To: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC > from: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > In order to complete the order Karlene, you would be so kind as to tell me to > ALS belong? > Thank you. > Alberto Soto > > > Sent from my ASUS > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: karlenef(a)gmail.com > Posted: Thu, February 18, 2016 8:37:55 -0300 > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC >> > >> > [[- Translated text (es -> en) -]] >> > >> > Asunto: Re: Alcance y Compromiso SC >> > De: karlenef(a)gmail.com >> > >> > Estimado Alberto, >> > >> > >> > Es lamentable que todavÃa existen tan enorme nivel de desconfianza en >> LACRALO. La situaciÃ³n es ahora insostenible. Por favor retire mi nombre de >> todas las listas de correo. No deseo ser un miembro de este grupo. >> > >> > >> > Saludos, >> > karlene Francisco >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> >> On 17 Feb 2016, at 7:48 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Dear Alberto, >>> >> > >>> >> I will comment on the issues of the Outreach and Engagement and CROPP >>> issues separately. Despite the two groups being chaired by the same person, >>> they operate under different rules and processes. >>> >> >>> >> Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement >>> >> >>> >> The Subcommittee (SC) is composed of two members named by each RALO plus >>> any other people that chose to participate. Operationally, the SC does not >>> distinguish between the two types of participants. The SC leadership is >>> selected by the SC itself. See ( >>> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outreach+an >>> d+Engagement ) for further details. >>> >> >>> >> There are 14 members from LACRALO, more than from any other region. >>> >> >>> >> Any work product of the SC should be a product of the entire SC, or at >>> least those who choose to be active and participate. That certainly should >>> include the official members selected by the region. The SC may decide to >>> ask RALOs for input, but even if it doesnÃ¢â¬â¢t, it is the responsibility of >>> the regional members to ensure that the region is involved. In a >>> multistakeholder environment, every participant cannot get exactly what they >>> want, but every participant should have an opportunity to be heard. If a >>> work product is about a particular region (as it is for the CROPP >>> strategies), that region clearly has a very important role to play. In the >>> case of LACRALO, we go to great efforts to ensure that the SC has Spanish >>> interpretation to ensure that your members can participate equitably. >>> >> >>> >> To the best of my knowledge, there has been no major complaint from >>> within the SC that people are not being listened to. >>> >> >>> >> The Independence of RALOs, like most things in life, is not absolute. In >>> many cases, an ALAC SC or WG carries out work on behalf of ALAC and >>> At-Large. They do this with the participation of people from all regions. >>> Generally these decisions or documents do not impact what a RALO can do, but >>> occasionally the ALAC gives a SC explicit responsibility to take action on >>> behalf of ALAC and At-Large even if the results do not go back to the ALAC >>> for ratification. >>> >> >>> >> In the specific case of the CROPP strategy document, I am not an expert, >>> but I do not see a wide difference between the resultant document and what I >>> have heard is of specific interest to LACRALO. The exact words may be >>> different, but the intent seems the same. But regardless of how I read it, >>> IF the region has a problem, it should be dealt with within the SC and by >>> those appointed by LACRALO to work on the SC. If there is a situation where >>> the SC members and the Chair and Co-Chairs cannot resolve an issue, I expect >>> it to be presented to me or the ALAC Leadership Team, ensuring that the ALT >>> Member from the region is aware of the issue. >>> >> >>> >> You mention that the internal LACRALO document had more concrete details. >>> That is quite reasonable. As I understand the situation, the plans to be >>> submitted to GSE did not require that level of detail and implementation. As >>> long as the two were complementary and did not conflict, there is no >>> problem. >>> >> >>> >> CROPP Program >>> >> >>> >> Last year, the CROPP program within At-Large was carried out by the CROPP >>> Review Team (RT) from the previous year. The current RT is composed of two >>> people from each region, one appointed by the Members of the Finance and >>> Budget Subcommittee, and one by the Members of the Outreach and Engagement >>> SC. >>> >> >>> >> A requests for use of CROPP funds goes from the originator to the RALO >>> and then to the CROPP RT. Exactly how the RALO approves a project is up to >>> the RALO. I suspect that most RALOs do this with their leadership team and >>> perhaps a few others. Once the CROPP RT is notified by RALO leadership that >>> a request is approved by the RALO, the CROPP RT must review it. They have >>> the duty to ensure that the request meets the regional strategy and is in >>> all ways a good request. If they are not satisfied, they can either reject >>> the request or refer it back to the originator or RALO for modification. My >>> understanding is that the LACRALO trip to Haiti and the Dominican Republic >>> was satisfactory and I do not see the need to review the process it followed >>> at this time. >>> >> >>> >> For the record, Dev Anand Teelucksingh did not travel to Buenos Aires on >>> CROPP funds. His trip was funded by GSE under a completely different >>> program. >>> >> >>> >> I hope that this addresses all of your issues. >>> >> >>> >> Regards, Alan >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>> >>> TRANSLATION BY SILVIA VIVANCO: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Dear Alan, I am obliged as President of LACRALO to get in touch about >>>> this issue: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The insistence of the Chairman of a Subcommittee of the ALAC (Outreach >>>> and Engagement SC ) in making decisions which should, by regulation be >>>> made inside of LACRALO and with full participation of its members ALSs, >>>> compels me to do so. >>>> >>> Repeated clarifications do not justify such a decision. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Comments from Pisanty and myself have been cited as if they were an >>>> approval of the Plan generated in the O/E Subcommittee, which acted without >>>> previously consulting the document which we already had prepared. Both >>>> mine, and the opinion of Alejandro Pisanty were critical of such document. >>>> >>> Subsequently, and despite the bad procedure, we, in display of good >>>> will and seeking peace in our Region, accepted this plan, despite the fact >>>> that ours had more concrete details about the countries, according to the >>>> list that I promptly submitted, and long before this Strategic Plan. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The main detail was that the plan should take into account as a >>>> priority, those countries that had the lowest rate of Internet >>>> penetration, as a way to start that required greater support and major >>>> actions to coordinate with ICANN GSE. >>>> >>> I asked for clarifications to the Chairman of the Subcommittee on our >>>> last monthly meeting. At that meeting, he not only insisted on his mistake, >>>> but he confirmed that the persons forming such Subcommittee would be in >>>> charge of the implementation of such plan and they were also analyzing the >>>> alternatives of the CROPP Program for its implementation by of such >>>> Subcommittee. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> In summary: first an ALS presents a project, which shall be approved >>>> by consensus within LACRALO and then leadership of LACRALO sends it for >>>> approval through the CROPP program and then to GSE. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> They are assuming a power which does not correspond to them, even >>>> though I requested by email and at the last monthly meeting that they did >>>> not. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> He also insisted that the Sub-Committee was formed by members of >>>> LACRALO, erroneously understanding this validated such actions. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> The MOU that LACRALO has signed with ICANN, gives us the independence >>>> in decisions, which should be taken within the scope of our Region and >>>> within our normative discussions area, not within a Sub-Committee of ALAC, >>>> despite the fact that this is composed of members of LACRALO. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> In the links listed in the email below, you can see that a similar >>>> program for AFRALO was approved by the members of AFRALO on September 21, >>>> 2015; of APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; of NARALO by Glenn >>>> McKnight 4l 4 August 2015; of EURALO by Dev Anand Teelucksingh the 29th >>>> September 2015; and the LACRALO also by Dev Anand Teelucksingh on >>>> September 15, 2015. At least for LACRALO, he has taken a role which does >>>> not correspond to him. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> In the emails cited by the Chair of the Subcommittee, there are >>>> inconsistencies such as the exchange of emails for the proposal by Carlton >>>> Samuels to go to Surinam; this was only presented by Dev Anand Teelucksingh >>>> in the meeting which we had on the Haiti and Dominican Republic. There was >>>> such urgency that we did not have time to submit it to LACRALO and >>>> exceptionally we decided with Humberto at that meeting so as to avoid >>>> losing our CROPP trip allocation. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> In the meeting previous to the last meeting of ICANN in Buenos Aires, >>>> it is said that we agreed and published the names of who would travel to >>>> such meeting. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> CROPP?s Chair, Dev Anand Teelucksingh, published such names, but >>>> omitted in the list his own name, because he travelled to Argentina with a >>>> travel allocation of such program. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> To safeguard our decisions, our autonomy and hoping to avoid future >>>> inconvenient, I request that you proceed to issue the appropriate >>>> Directive to such Subcommittee. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> At 11/01/2016 07:16 AM, Alberto Soto wrote: >>>> >>> Estimado Alan, me veo obligado como Presidente de LACRALO a ponerme en >>>> >>> contacto por este tema. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> La insistencia del Presidente de un SubcomitÃÂ© de ALAC (Alcance y >>>> compromiso >>>> >>> SC) en tomar decisiones que por norma deben tomarse en el interior de >>>> >>> LACRALO y con participaciÃÂ³n de sus ALSs miembros, me obliga a ello. >>>> >>> Las repetidas aclaraciones no justifican esa decisiÃÂ³n. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Se ha citado comentarios de Alejando Pisanty y mÃÂos como si hubieran >>>> sido de >>>> >>> aprobaciÃÂ³n del Plan generado en ese subcomitÃÂ© sin haber consultado >>>> >>> previamente el documento con el que ya contÃÂ¡bamos. Tanto la opiniÃÂ³n >>>> >>> Alejandro Como la MAA, Eran crÃticas de tal documento. A posteriori y >>>> PESE una >>>> >>> ESE mal Procedimiento, Como la Muestra de Buena Voluntad y buscando la paz en >>>> >>> Nuestra RegiÃ³n, dimos Como Aceptado DICHO plan, PESE una Que El Nuestro >>>> tenÃa >>>> >>> Detalles MÃ¡s Concretos Sobre los paÃses, segÃºn La Lista Que Yo >>>> oportunamente >>>> >>> Presentara, los antes y Mucho of this Plan de Estrata © gico.El Detalle >>>> Era director >>>> >>> Que se debÃa Tener en Cuenta de Como priority, un paÃses Aquellos Que >>>> tuvieran >>>> >>> El Menor Andice de penetraciÃ³n de Internet, Como una forma de >>>> Por Comenzar >>>> >>> Los Que requerÃan alcalde Apoyo y mayores: acciones de una Coordinar con GSE Delaware >>>> >>> ICANN. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> PEDA aclaraciones al Presidente del SubcomitÃ © en Nuestra Ãºltima >>>> reuniÃ³n >>>> >>> Mensual; allÃ no solo de error insistiÃ³ en su, Que Sino Que confirmÃ³ Las >>>> >>> Personajes Integrante de DICHO SubcomitÃ © se harÃan de carga de la >>>> implementaciÃ³n >>>> >>> De Plan DICHO, y ademÃ¡s Estaban analizado las Alternativas del >>>> Programa >>>> >>> CROPP para su implementaciÃ³n por parte de DICHO SubcomitÃ ©.Como >>>> SÃntesis de >>>> >>> Este tema en particular: Primero Una ALS Presenta Proyecto de las Naciones Unidas, se >>>> Aprueba >>>> >>> Por consensus en LACRALO Y LUEGO EL Liderazgo de LACRALO lo envÃa párrafo Do >>>> >>> AprobaciÃ³n al Programa CROPP y de alla un GSE. Se estÃ¡n arrogando Una >>>> >>> AtribuciÃ³n Que No corresponde, PESE un Que se pidiÃ³ por mail y en la >>>> Ãºltima >>>> >>> ReuniÃ³n mensual Que No lo hicieran. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> TambiÃ © n insistiÃ³ En que DICHO subcomitÃ © ESTABA Conformado por Miembros de >>>> >>>> >>> LACRALO, Entendiendo errÃ³neamente Que Ello convalidaba cuentos: acciones. >>>> >>> El MOU Que Tiene LACRALO Firmado con la ICANN, nos da la Independencia en Las >>>> >>> Decisiones, Las Que Deben tomarse Dentro del Ã¡mbito de Nuestra RegiÃ³n >>>> Y EN >>>> >>> Nuestro Ã¡mbito normativo de discusiones, y sin within ONU SubcomitÃ © Delaware >>>> >>> ALAC, PESE un © Que esta Integrado por Miembros de LACRALO. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> En los une Que estÃ¡n indicados en el correo electrónico de abajo, Que Se Puede ver EL >>>> >>> Programa similares de AFRALO FUE Aprobado por los Miembros de AFRALO el >>>> 21 de >>>> >>> Septiembre de 2015; El de APRALO lÃderes Por Sus el 3 de julio de >>>> 2015; EL >>>> >>> De NARALO por Glenn McKnight 4l 4 de agosto de 2015; El de EURALO por dev >>>> >>> Anand Teelucksingh el 29de septiembre de 2015; y el de LACRALO >>>> TambiÃ © n por >>>> >>> Dev Anand Teelucksingh el 15 de septiembre de 2015.Al menos por >>>> LACRALO, se >>>> >>> Ha Tomado Una atribuciÃ³n Que No le corresponde. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> En los citados electrónico por el Presidente del subcomitÃ ©, heno >>>> inconsistencias >>>> >>> Cuentos Como el Intercambio de correos para la Propuesta de Carlton >>>> Samuels >>>> >>> To go una Suriname; ESTO FUE solitario Presentado por Dev Anand >>>> Teelucksingh linea >>>> >>> Una reuniÃ³n Que mantuvimos por el tema de Haita y RepÃºblica >>>> Dominica. Era >>>> >>> Con tal urgencia Que No tuvimos Tiempo de presentarlo ante LACRALO y >>>> >>> Excepcionalmente lo definimos con Humberto en ESA reuniÃ³n párrafo sin >>>> ONU perder >>>> >>> Viaje de CROPP. En la reuniÃ³n previa al Ãºltimo reunión de la ICANN en Buenos >>>> >>>> >>> Aires, se cita Que concordamos y were Publicados los Nombres de Quienes >>>> >>>> >>> ViajarÃan una reunión DICHO.El Presidente del CROPP, Dev Anand >>>> Teelucksingh >>>> >>> DICHOS publicÃ³ Nombres, Pero omitiÃ³ en tu lista rápida el suyo propio, Dado What >>>> >>> ViajÃ³ con Una vacante de DICHO Programa. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Por el resguardo de Nuestras Decisiones, Nuestra Autonomía, y >>>> esperando >>>> >>> Evitar inconvenientes Futuros, solicito tengas a bien dar la directiva >>>> >>> Correspondiente una ESE SubcomitÃ ©. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Saludos cordiales >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Alberto Soto >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Lac-discuss-en la lista de correo >>> >> Lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >>> >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >>> >>> >>> > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/835e6ec97a.html --]]

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Re: Proyecci�n y Participaci�n SC
by asoto＠ibero-americano.org Feb. 23, 2016

Feb. 23, 2016

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Proyección y Participación SC De: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Estimado, por favor, se puede eliminar una lista de correo para Karlene Francis [mailto: karlenef(a)gmail.com] La ELA es la Universidad de las Indias Occidentales. ¡Gracias! Saludos cordiales Alberto De: Karlene Francis [mailto: karlenef(a)gmail.com] Enviado EL: lunes, 22 de febrero de 2016 22:27 Para: Alberto Soto CC: lista de LACRALO Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Proyección y Participación SC Estimado Alberto, Pertenezco a la UWI. Gracias por adelantado. Sinceramente, karlene Francisco ---------- Mensaje reenviado ---------- De: <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> Fecha: Jue 18 Feb, 2016 a 24:08 Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Proyección y Participación SC Para: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org [[--Translated Texto (es -> es) -]] Asunto: Re: Proyección y Participación SC a partir de: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org Con el fin de completar el pedido Karlene, serías tan amable de decirme a la ELA pertenece? Gracias. Alberto Soto Enviado desde mi ASUS -------- Mensaje original -------- De: karlenef(a)gmail.com Publicado: Jue, 18 de Febrero, el año 2016 08:37:55 -0300 Para: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Cc: lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-es] Proyección y Participación SC > > [[- Translated text (es -> en) -]] > > Asunto: Re: Alcance y Compromiso SC > De: karlenef(a)gmail.com > > Estimado Alberto, > > > Es lamentable que todavÃa existen tan enorme nivel de desconfianza en LACRALO. La situaciÃ³n es ahora insostenible. Por favor retire mi nombre de todas las listas de correo. No deseo ser un miembro de este grupo. > > > Saludos, > karlene Francisco > > > > >> On 17 Feb 2016, at 7:48 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> wrote: >> >> Dear Alberto, >> >> I will comment on the issues of the Outreach and Engagement and CROPP issues separately. Despite the two groups being chaired by the same person, they operate under different rules and processes. >> >> Subcommittee on Outreach and Engagement >> >> The Subcommittee (SC) is composed of two members named by each RALO plus any other people that chose to participate. Operationally, the SC does not distinguish between the two types of participants. The SC leadership is selected by the SC itself. See ( https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outreach+a… ) for further details. >> >> There are 14 members from LACRALO, more than from any other region. >> >> Any work product of the SC should be a product of the entire SC, or at least those who choose to be active and participate. That certainly should include the official members selected by the region. The SC may decide to ask RALOs for input, but even if it doesnÃ¢â¬â¢t, it is the responsibility of the regional members to ensure that the region is involved. In a multistakeholder environment, every participant cannot get exactly what they want, but every participant should have an opportunity to be heard. If a work product is about a particular region (as it is for the CROPP strategies), that region clearly has a very important role to play. In the case of LACRALO, we go to great efforts to ensure that the SC has Spanish interpretation to ensure that your members can participate equitably. >> >> To the best of my knowledge, there has been no major complaint from within the SC that people are not being listened to. >> >> The Independence of RALOs, like most things in life, is not absolute. In many cases, an ALAC SC or WG carries out work on behalf of ALAC and At-Large. They do this with the participation of people from all regions. Generally these decisions or documents do not impact what a RALO can do, but occasionally the ALAC gives a SC explicit responsibility to take action on behalf of ALAC and At-Large even if the results do not go back to the ALAC for ratification. >> >> In the specific case of the CROPP strategy document, I am not an expert, but I do not see a wide difference between the resultant document and what I have heard is of specific interest to LACRALO. The exact words may be different, but the intent seems the same. But regardless of how I read it, IF the region has a problem, it should be dealt with within the SC and by those appointed by LACRALO to work on the SC. If there is a situation where the SC members and the Chair and Co-Chairs cannot resolve an issue, I expect it to be presented to me or the ALAC Leadership Team, ensuring that the ALT Member from the region is aware of the issue. >> >> You mention that the internal LACRALO document had more concrete details. That is quite reasonable. As I understand the situation, the plans to be submitted to GSE did not require that level of detail and implementation. As long as the two were complementary and did not conflict, there is no problem. >> >> CROPP Program >> >> Last year, the CROPP program within At-Large was carried out by the CROPP Review Team (RT) from the previous year. The current RT is composed of two people from each region, one appointed by the Members of the Finance and Budget Subcommittee, and one by the Members of the Outreach and Engagement SC. >> >> A requests for use of CROPP funds goes from the originator to the RALO and then to the CROPP RT. Exactly how the RALO approves a project is up to the RALO. I suspect that most RALOs do this with their leadership team and perhaps a few others. Once the CROPP RT is notified by RALO leadership that a request is approved by the RALO, the CROPP RT must review it. They have the duty to ensure that the request meets the regional strategy and is in all ways a good request. If they are not satisfied, they can either reject the request or refer it back to the originator or RALO for modification. My understanding is that the LACRALO trip to Haiti and the Dominican Republic was satisfactory and I do not see the need to review the process it followed at this time. >> >> For the record, Dev Anand Teelucksingh did not travel to Buenos Aires on CROPP funds. His trip was funded by GSE under a completely different program. >> >> I hope that this addresses all of your issues. >> >> Regards, Alan >> >> >> >> >> >>> TRANSLATION BY SILVIA VIVANCO: >>> >>> >>> Dear Alan, I am obliged as President of LACRALO to get in touch about this issue: >>> >>> The insistence of the Chairman of a Subcommittee of the ALAC (Outreach and Engagement SC ) in making decisions which should, by regulation be made inside of LACRALO and with full participation of its members ALSs, compels me to do so. >>> Repeated clarifications do not justify such a decision. >>> >>> Comments from Pisanty and myself have been cited as if they were an approval of the Plan generated in the O/E Subcommittee, which acted without previously consulting the document which we already had prepared. Both mine, and the opinion of Alejandro Pisanty were critical of such document. >>> Subsequently, and despite the bad procedure, we, in display of good will and seeking peace in our Region, accepted this plan, despite the fact that ours had more concrete details about the countries, according to the list that I promptly submitted, and long before this Strategic Plan. >>> >>> The main detail was that the plan should take into account as a priority, those countries that had the lowest rate of Internet penetration, as a way to start that required greater support and major actions to coordinate with ICANN GSE. >>> I asked for clarifications to the Chairman of the Subcommittee on our last monthly meeting. At that meeting, he not only insisted on his mistake, but he confirmed that the persons forming such Subcommittee would be in charge of the implementation of such plan and they were also analyzing the alternatives of the CROPP Program for its implementation by of such Subcommittee. >>> >>> In summary: first an ALS presents a project, which shall be approved by consensus within LACRALO and then leadership of LACRALO sends it for approval through the CROPP program and then to GSE. >>> >>> They are assuming a power which does not correspond to them, even though I requested by email and at the last monthly meeting that they did not. >>> >>> He also insisted that the Sub-Committee was formed by members of LACRALO, erroneously understanding this validated such actions. >>> >>> The MOU that LACRALO has signed with ICANN, gives us the independence in decisions, which should be taken within the scope of our Region and within our normative discussions area, not within a Sub-Committee of ALAC, despite the fact that this is composed of members of LACRALO. >>> >>> In the links listed in the email below, you can see that a similar program for AFRALO was approved by the members of AFRALO on September 21, 2015; of APRALO by their leaders on July 3, 2015; of NARALO by Glenn McKnight 4l 4 August 2015; of EURALO by Dev Anand Teelucksingh the 29th September 2015; and the LACRALO also by Dev Anand Teelucksingh on September 15, 2015. At least for LACRALO, he has taken a role which does not correspond to him. >>> >>> In the emails cited by the Chair of the Subcommittee, there are inconsistencies such as the exchange of emails for the proposal by Carlton Samuels to go to Surinam; this was only presented by Dev Anand Teelucksingh in the meeting which we had on the Haiti and Dominican Republic. There was such urgency that we did not have time to submit it to LACRALO and exceptionally we decided with Humberto at that meeting so as to avoid losing our CROPP trip allocation. >>> >>> In the meeting previous to the last meeting of ICANN in Buenos Aires, it is said that we agreed and published the names of who would travel to such meeting. >>> >>> CROPP?s Chair, Dev Anand Teelucksingh, published such names, but omitted in the list his own name, because he travelled to Argentina with a travel allocation of such program. >>> >>> To safeguard our decisions, our autonomy and hoping to avoid future inconvenient, I request that you proceed to issue the appropriate Directive to such Subcommittee. >> >> >> >> At 11/01/2016 07:16 AM, Alberto Soto wrote: >>> Estimado Alan, me veo obligado como Presidente de LACRALO a ponerme en >>> contacto por este tema. >>> >>> La insistencia del Presidente de un SubcomitÃÂ© de ALAC (Alcance y compromiso >>> SC) en tomar decisiones que por norma deben tomarse en el interior de >>> LACRALO y con participaciÃÂ³n de sus ALSs miembros, me obliga a ello. >>> Las repetidas aclaraciones no justifican esa decisiÃÂ³n. >>> >>> Se ha citado comentarios de Alejando Pisanty y mÃÂos como si hubieran sido de >>> aprobaciÃÂ³n del Plan generado en ese subcomitÃÂ© sin haber consultado >>> previamente el documento con el que ya contÃÂ¡bamos. Tanto la opiniÃÂ³n de >>> Alejandro como la mÃÂa, eran crÃÂticas de tal documento. A posteriori y pese a >>> ese mal procedimiento, como muestra de buena voluntad y buscando la paz en >>> nuestra RegiÃÂ³n, dimos como aceptado dicho Plan, pese a que el nuestro tenÃÂa >>> detalles mÃÂ¡s concretos sobre los paÃÂses, segÃÂºn la lista que yo oportunamente >>> presentara, y mucho antes de este Plan EstratÃÂ©gico. El detalle principal era >>> que se debÃÂa tener en cuenta como prioridad, a aquellos paÃÂses que tuvieran >>> el menor ÃÂndice de penetraciÃÂ³n de Internet, como una forma de comenzar por >>> los que requerÃÂan mayor apoyo y mayores acciones a coordinar con GSE de >>> ICANN. >>> >>> PedÃÂ aclaraciones al Presidente del SubcomitÃÂ© en nuestra ÃÂºltima reuniÃÂ³n >>> mensual; allÃÂ no solo insistiÃÂ³ en su error, sino que confirmÃÂ³ que las >>> personas integrante de dicho SubcomitÃÂ© se harÃÂan cargo de la implementaciÃÂ³n >>> de dicho plan, y ademÃÂ¡s estaban analizado las alternativas del programa >>> CROPP para su implementaciÃÂ³n por parte de dicho SubcomitÃÂ©. Como sÃÂntesis de >>> este tema en particular: primero una ALS presenta un proyecto, se aprueba >>> por consenso en LACRALO y luego el liderazgo de LACRALO lo envÃÂa para su >>> aprobaciÃÂ³n al programa CROPP y de allÃÂ a GSE. Se estÃÂ¡n arrogando una >>> atribuciÃÂ³n que no corresponde, pese a que se pidiÃÂ³ por mail y en la ÃÂºltima >>> reuniÃÂ³n mensual que no lo hicieran. >>> >>> TambiÃÂ©n insistiÃÂ³ en que dicho subcomitÃÂ© estaba conformado por miembros de >>> LACRALO, entendiendo errÃÂ³neamente que ello convalidaba tales acciones. >>> El MOU que LACRALO tiene firmado con ICANN, nos da la independencia en las >>> decisiones, las que deben tomarse dentro del ÃÂ¡mbito de nuestra RegiÃÂ³n y en >>> nuestro ÃÂ¡mbito normativo de discusiones, y no dentro de un SubcomitÃÂ© de >>> ALAC, pese a que estÃÂ© integrado por miembros de LACRALO. >>> >>> En los links que estÃÂ¡n indicados en el mail de abajo, se puede ver que el >>> programa similar de AFRALO fue aprobado por los miembros de AFRALO el 21 de >>> septiembre de 2015; el de APRALO por sus lÃÂderes el 3 de julio de 2015; el >>> de NARALO por Glenn McKnight 4l 4 de agosto de 2015; el de EURALO por Dev >>> Anand Teelucksingh el 29de septiembre de 2015; y el de LACRALO tambiÃÂ©n por >>> Dev Anand Teelucksingh el 15 de septiembre de 2015. Al menos por LACRALO, se >>> ha tomado una atribuciÃÂ³n que no le corresponde. >>> >>> En los mail citados por el Presidente del subcomitÃÂ©, hay inconsistencias >>> tales como el intercambio de correos para la propuesta de Carlton Samuels >>> para ir a Surinam; esto solo fue presentado por Dev Anand Teelucksingh en >>> una reuniÃÂ³n que mantuvimos por el tema de HaitÃÂ y RepÃÂºblica Dominica. Era >>> con tal urgencia que no tuvimos tiempo de presentarlo ante LACRALO y >>> excepcionalmente lo definimos con Humberto en esa reuniÃÂ³n para no perder un >>> viaje de CROPP. En la reuniÃÂ³n previa al ÃÂºltimo meeting de ICANN en Buenos >>> Aires, se cita que concordamos y fueron publicados los nombres de quienes >>> viajarÃÂan a dicho meeting. El Presidente del CROPP, Dev Anand Teelucksingh >>> publicÃÂ³ dichos nombres, pero omitiÃÂ³ en la lista el suyo propio, dado que >>> viajÃÂ³ con una vacante de dicho programa. >>> >>> Por el resguardo de nuestras decisiones, nuestra autonomÃÂa, y esperando >>> evitar futuros inconvenientes, solicito tengas a bien dar la directiva >>> correspondiente a ese SubcomitÃÂ©. >>> >>> Saludos cordiales >>> >>> Alberto Soto >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/03f04dd028.html --]]

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Re: Proyecci�n y Participaci�n SC
by devtee＠gmail.com Feb. 22, 2016

Feb. 22, 2016

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Proyección y Participación SC De: devtee(a)gmail.com Alberto, que continúa falsificando la situación, la cual es desgraciado. Ya he publicado información (Http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-en/2016-January/014205…) y volverá a tener los correos electrónicos de usted y Humberto sobre estos asuntos y Así, la evidencia que contradice sus declaraciones. Por desgracia, el At-Large no tiene mucho tiempo para tener llamadas con la interpretación, sino que va a pedir At-Large Personal si hay alguna oportunidades para una conferencia telefónica con la interpretación del jueves 25 Febrero o viernes 26 febrero y si es así, pida un garabato para ser enviado. Esta llamada sería con el miembros de LACRALO del Alcance y Participación SC, a sí mismo ya representantes de LACRALO y cualquier otra persona en LACRALO interesadas en la identificación de eventos de extensión en la región de ALC, lo que sería posible CROPP propuestas para enviar y los esfuerzos en curso para identificar posibles las partes interesadas en la región de ALC y otros pasos siguientes. dev Anand El Dom 17 Feb, 2016 a 21:28, <asoto(a)ibero-americano.org> escribió: > > [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] > > Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC > from: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org > > Dear Alan, I know in detail all these rules, so realicmi > order. > > > 1. Participation Subcomitde Proyecciny > > > LACRALO was not consulted on the Strategic Plan for the Region. It was > Chair approved by the SC, unlike other Ralos that could > prepare and approve its own Strategic Plan, habindolo treaty > internally. The Chair of the SC has no power to generally plan > strategic without consultation, and allow the entire region to achieve a consensus > thereon. > Nevertheless, to avoid interference or harm our region, we > forward with l. Again, the main point is that it has powers > for what that realized. But the main issue is not the difference > contents of the plan, but the procedure carried out. Dejde side to > LACRALO leadership and all its members, which considered > gravity. > > > 2. CROPP Program > > > The Chair of Subcomitde Proyecciny participation and is also Chair > the CROPP program after approving a strategic plan for our region > without authority they now decided to implement the plan > Strategic, and define who encargary who viajaren his > implementacin. But this time also without authority, has > Sern defined that members of Subcomitde Proyecciny > Those who harn participation. This without any involvement or consultation > with LACRALO. I must mention that there are SC members who long ago > have not engaged in any activity in LACRALO (meetings > monthly, ratings, webinars). > This procedure is not established by the program to determine CROPP > the trips. S, it required to be submitted the draft approved by consensus > and raised by regional leaders for approval by the program > CROPP. And this is what is not estcumpliendo. Spaces will be used > LACRALO not approved for this procedure, and there we found out. And that > I also think critically. > > > Regarding the trip Haity Dominican Republic, he was only cited for > a difference of procedure that made the Chair of CROPP with another > application was filed out of time and we solicital > President and Secretary, and to keep that square, it approved, assuming > the responsibility not to consult our Regin .. > > > For the record: about the trip he took the Lord Dev Anand > Teelucksingh, in the same meeting that would travel Buenos definiquien > Aires, the same authorization solicitla the President and Secretary > LACRALO to travel to Buenos Aires, which although it was not the > CROPP program hinted that from that moment it was. And the > We authorize. This is contained in the records of that meeting. > > > Best regards > > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > -----Original message----- > From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of > alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca > Posted on: wednesday, February 17, 2016 21:51 > To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Outreach and Engagement SC > > > > > [[Translated text (in -> en) -]] > > > Subject: Re: Outreach and Engagement SC > From: alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca > > > Dear Alberto, > > > > > I will comment on the issues of commitment and divulgaciny > CROPP issues separately. Although the two groups estn > chaired by the same person, operating under different rules and > processes. > > > > > Participation Proyecciny Subcomitde > > > > > The Subcommittee (SC) is composed of two members appointed by each RALO ms > any others who chose to participate.Operationally, the > SC does not distinguish between the two types of participants. Leadership SC > It is selected by the SC in s. View (< > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+on+Outreach+an > d + Engagement> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/ALAC+Subcommittee+o > n + + and + Engagement Outreach) > for more details. > > > > > There are 14 members of LACRALO, more than any other region. > > > > > Any work product of the SC should be a product of all the SC, > or at least those who choose to be active and should definitely participar.Que > officers include members selected by the region. The SC can > RALOS decide to ask for input, but even if it does not work, > responsibility of regional members to ensure that the region > is involved. In an environment of multiple stakeholders, each > participant can not get exactly what you want, but each > participant must have an opportunity to be heard. If a product of > is working on a particular region (as it is for the CROPP > strategies), which clearly has a very important role to region > to play.For LACRALO, we go to great efforts to ensure that > SC Spanish interpretation to ensure that its members can > participate equally. > > > > > To the best of my knowledge, there has been no major complaint within the > SC people estn not being heard. > > > > > Independence RALOS, like most things in > life is not absolute. In many cases, a ALAC SC > or GT carried out the work on behalf of ALAC and > In general. They do it with the participation of > people of all General regiones.En these > decisions or documents not affect what a RALO > you can do, but sometimes gives the ALAC SC > explicit responsibility to take action on behalf > ALAC and At-Large even if the results do not > return to the ALAC for ratification. > > > > > In the case of CROPP especfico strategy > document, I'm not an expert, but I see a > big difference between the resulting document > and what I've heard is of interest to especfico > LACRALO. The exact wording may be different, but > the intention seems to be the same. But regardless of how > I read, if the region has a problem, which should > be treated within the SC, and for those > LACRALO appointed to work on the SC. Shay > It is a situation in which members and ComitDirectivo > President > and co-chairs can not solve a problem, I hope > that leadership ALAC presentaramo > Team, ensuring that the ALT members of the region is aware of > problem. > > > > > You mention that the internal document LACRALO > tena more concrete details.That is > razonable.Como understand the situation, the > GSE plans someterna not exigique > level of detail and application. While > the two were complementary and did not conflict, no ningn > problem. > > > > > CROPP program > > > > > Last year, the CROPP program within At-Large was > conducted by the team of revision CROPP (RT) from > the previous year. The stream consists of RT > two people from each region, one appointed by the > Members of Subcomitde Finance and Budget, > and a member of the Scope and Participation SC. > > > > > A requests for use of funds ranging from CROPP > initiator for RALO and then the CROPP RT. > Exactly how sparse approved a project to > RALO. I suspect that most RALOS do this with > its leadership team and perhaps some others. > Once the CROPP RT is notified by the RALO leadership > the application is approved by the thinning, the CROPP > RT should review. They have a duty to ensure > that the application complies with the regional strategy and > It is in every way a good peticin.Si not estn > satisfied, they can reject the request or > send it back to the originator or to RALO > modification. My understanding is that the > LACRALO Haity trip to the Dominican Republic > It was satisfactory and I see no need for > NEXT review the process this time. > > > > > For the record, Dev Anand did not Teelucksingh > travel to Buenos Aires on CROPP funds. Your trip > It was funded by GSE under a completely different program. > > > > > I hope this is addressed to all their problems. > > > > > Regards, Alan > > TRADUCCIÃN POR SILVIA VIVANCO: > > > > > > Estimado Alan, estoy obligado como Presidente de LACRALO > > Estar en contacto sobre este tema: > > > > La insistencia del presidente de un SubcomitÃ© > > Del ALAC (Alcance y ParticipaciÃ³n SC) en > > Toma de decisiones, que deben, por reglamento serÃ¡ > > Hecho dentro de LACRALO y con pleno > > ParticipaciÃ³n de sus miembros ALSs, me obliga a hacerlo. > > > > Comentarios de Pisanty y yo se han citado > > Como si fueran una aprobaciÃ³n del Plan > > Generado en la O / E SubcomitÃ©, que actuÃ³ > > Sin consultar previamente el documento que > > Ya habÃamos preparado. Tanto la mÃa, y la > > OpiniÃ³n de Alejandro Pisanty eran crÃticos de dicho documento. > > Posteriormente, ya pesar de la mala procedimiento, que, > > En la pantalla de la buena voluntad y la bÃºsqueda de la paz en nuestra > > RegiÃ³n, aceptado este plan, a pesar del hecho > > Que la nuestra tenÃa detalles mÃ¡s concretos sobre la > > paÃses, de acuerdo con la lista que rÃ¡pidamente > > Presentada, y mucho antes de este Plan EstratÃ©gico. > > > > El detalle principal era que el plan debe tener > > en cuenta de forma prioritaria, los paÃses > > Que tuvo la tasa mÃ¡s baja de internet > > PenetraciÃ³n, como una manera para iniciar la requerida > > Mayor apoyo y las principales acciones de coordinaciÃ³n con ICANN GSE. > > PedÃ aclaraciones del Presidente de > > El SubcomitÃ© de nuestra Ãºltima reuniÃ³n mensual.A > > Esa reuniÃ³n, no sÃ³lo insistiÃ³ en su > > Error, pero confirmÃ³ que las personas > > FormaciÃ³n de tales SubcomitÃ© estarÃa a cargo de > > La ejecuciÃ³n de dicho proyecto y que eran > > TambiÃ©n el anÃ¡lisis de las alternativas de la CROPP > > Programa para su aplicaciÃ³n por parte de dicho SubcomitÃ©. > > > > En resumen: en primer lugar una ALS presenta una > > Proyecto, que deberÃ¡ ser aprobado por consenso > > Dentro de LACRALO y luego direcciÃ³n del LACRALO > > Lo envÃa para su aprobaciÃ³n a travÃ©s del programa CROPP y luego a GSE. > > > > Ellos estÃ¡n asumiendo un poder que no lo hace > > Corresponderles, a pesar de que habÃamos pedido por > > Correo electrÃ³nico y en la Ãºltima reuniÃ³n mensual que no lo hicieron. > > > > TambiÃ©n insistiÃ³ en que el SubcomitÃ© > > Formado por miembros de LACRALO, errÃ³neamente > > La comprensiÃ³n de este tipo de acciones validadas. > > > > El MOU que LACRALO ha firmado con la ICANN, > > Nos da la independencia en las decisiones, lo cual > > Debe tomarse dentro del Ã¡mbito de nuestra RegiÃ³n > > Y dentro de nuestra Ã¡rea de discusiÃ³n normativa, no se > > Dentro de un SubcomitÃ© de ALAC, a pesar del hecho > > Que este se compone de miembros de LACRALO. > > > > En los enlaces que aparecen en el correo electrÃ³nico a continuaciÃ³n, se > > Ver que un programa similar para AFRALO era > > Aprobado por los miembros de AFRALO de Septiembre > > 21, 2015; de APRALO por sus lÃderes el 3 de julio, > > 2015; de NARALO por Glenn McKnight 4l 4 de agosto de > > 2015; de EURALO por Dev Anand Teelucksingh la > > 29 de de septiembre de 2015; y la LACRALO tambiÃ©n por > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh el 15 de septiembre de 2015. En > > Menos para LACRALO, que ha tomado un papel que no le corresponde. > > > > En los correos electrÃ³nicos citados por el Presidente de la > > SubcomitÃ©, existen inconsistencias tales como > > El intercambio de correos electrÃ³nicos a la propuesta de > > Carlton Samuels para ir a Surinam; esto sÃ³lo fue > > Presentada por Dev Anand Teelucksingh en el > > Encuentro que tuvimos en el HaitÃ y Dominicana > > RepÃºblica.HabÃa tal urgencia que no lo hicimos > > Tener tiempo para enviarlo a LACRALO y > > Excepcionalmente decidimos con Humberto en > > Esa reuniÃ³n a fin de evitar la pÃ©rdida de nuestra asignaciÃ³n de viaje > > > > En la reuniÃ³n previa a la Ãºltima reuniÃ³n de > > ICANN en Buenos Aires, se dice que estamos de acuerdo > > Y publicado los nombres de los que viajarÃa a dicha reuniÃ³n. > > > > CROPP? S Silla, Dev Anand Teelucksingh, > > Publicado tales nombres, pero omitidas en el > > Listar su propio nombre, porque viajÃ³ a > > Argentina con una asignaciÃ³n de viaje del programa de este tipo. > > > > Para salvaguardar nuestras decisiones, nuestra autonomÃa y > > La esperanza de evitar inconvenientes futuros, solicito > > Que se procede a emitir la Directiva correspondiente a dicho SubcomitÃ©. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Estimado Alan, me veo Obligado Como Presidente de LACRALO un Ponerme en > > Contacto por este tema. > > > > La insistencia del Presidente de la ONU Subcomitde ALAC (Alcance y > > SC) en Tomar Decisiones Que por norma Deben tomarse en el interior de > > LACRALO y con participacin de Sus Miembros ALS, me obli un Ello. > > Las repetidas aclaraciones ninguna decisin ESA justifican. > > > > Se ha Citado comentarios de Alejando Pisanty ymos Como Si hubieran Sido > > Aprobacin del Plan de Generado en ESE subcomitsin Haber consultado > > Previamente el documento con El que ya contbamos. Tanto la opinin de > > Alejandro Como la ma, Eran crticas de tal documento. A posteriori y una > > ESE mal Procedimiento, Como la Muestra de Buena Voluntad y buscando la > > Nuestra Regin, dimos Como Aceptado DICHO plan, PESE una cola el nuestro > > Detalles ms Concretos Sobre los paSES, segn La Lista Que Yo oportunamente > > Presentara, los antes y Mucho of this Plan de Estratgico. El detalle era > > > > Que se deba Tener en Cuenta de Como priority, un paSES Aquellos Que > > El menor ndice de penetracin de Internet, Como una forma de Comenzar por > > Los Que requeran alcalde Apoyo y mayores: acciones de una Coordinar con > > ICANN. > > > > Pedaclaraciones al Presidente del Subcomiten Nuestra ltima reunin > > Mensual; allno en solitario insistien error Do, Sino Que las confirmque > > Personas Integrante de DICHO Subcomitse haran cargo de la IMPLEMENTACIÃN > > Plan de DICHO, y adems Estaban analizado las Alternativas del Programa > > CROPP para su IMPLEMENTACIÃN por parte de Subcomit DICHO. Como sntesis de > > Tema this en particular: Primero Una ALS Presenta Proyecto de las > > > > Por consensus en LACRALO Y LUEGO EL Liderazgo de LACRALO lo ENVA pÃ¡rrafo > > Aprobacin al Programa CROPP y de alla GSE. Se estn arrogando Una > > Atribucin Que No corresponde, PESE un Que se pidipor electrÃ³nico y en la > > Reunin mensual Que No lo hicieran. > > > > Tambin insistien Que DICHO subcomitestaba Conformado por Miembros de > > LACRALO, Entendiendo errneamente Que Ello convalidaba cuentos: acciones. > > El MOU Que Tiene LACRALO Firmado con la ICANN, nos da la Independencia en > > Decisiones, Las Que Deben tomarse DENTRO DEL Ã mbito de Nuestra Reginy > > Nuestro Ã mbito normativo de discusiones, y sin within ONU Subcomitde > > ALAC, PESE una cola estintegrado por Miembros de LACRALO. > > > > En los une Que estn indicados en el correo electrÃ³nico de abajo, Se Puede > > Programa similares de AFRALO FUE Aprobado por los Miembros de AFRALO el > > Septiembre de 2015; El de APRALO Por Sus lderes el 3 de julio de 2015; EL > > De NARALO por Glenn McKnight 4l 4 de agosto de 2015; El de EURALO por Dev > > Anand Teelucksingh el 29de septiembre de 2015; y el de LACRALO tambin por > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh el 15 de septiembre de 2015. Al menos por LACRALO, > > > > > > > > Ha Tomado Una atribucin Que No le corresponde. > > > > En los citados electrÃ³nico Por El Presidente Del subcomit, > > Cuentos Como el Intercambio de correos para la Propuesta de Carlton > > To go una Suriname; ESTO FUE solitario Presentado por Dev Anand > > Una reunin Que mantuvimos por el tema de Haity Repblica Dominica.Era > > Con tal urgencia Que No tuvimos Tiempo de presentarlo ante LACRALO y > > Excepcionalmente lo definimos con Humberto en ESA reunin para no perder > > Viaje de CROPP. En la reunin previa al ltimo reuniÃ³n de la ICANN en > > Aires, se cita Que concordamos y were Publicados los Nombres de Quienes > > Viajaran una reuniÃ³n DICHO. El Presidente del CROPP, Dev Anand > > Nombres publicdichos, Pero omitien La Lista el suyo propio, dado Que > > Viajcon Una vacante de DICHO Programa. > > > > Por el resguardo de Nuestras Decisiones, Nuestra AutÃ³noma, y > > Evitar Futuros inconvenientes, solicito tengas a bien dar la directiva > > Correspondiente una ESE Subcomit. > > > > Saludos cordiales > > > > Alberto Soto > > > > > > > > > [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/c61eb65b17.html --]]

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Webinar "2da Actualización del Plan Estratégico LAC"
by Rodrigo Saucedo Feb. 22, 2016

Feb. 22, 2016

Estimados miembros de LACRALO, LAC GSE de ICANN tiene el agrado de invitarlos al Seminario en Línea "2da Actualización del Plan Estratégico LAC" que se llevará a cabo el 25 de enero 2016 a las 23:00 UTC durante 60 minutos. Expositores: Alexandra Dans - Gerente de Comunicaciones para America Latina y el Caribe ICANN Daniel Fink - Gerente de Relacionamiento para Brasil ICANN Rodrigo Saucedo - Gerente de Proyectos para América Latina y el Caribe de ICANN Agenda: Proyectos * Estudio de la Industria del DNS en America Latina y el Caribe. * Comunicaciones para America Latina y el Caribe * Información de Alto Nivel * Guía de especificaciones Técnica para convertirse en un registrador acreditado de ICANN. Q&A Adobe Connect (con audio en español): https://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacstrategy Adigo ID de conferencia: ES: 9001 ES: 9003 PT: 9007 Números de Adigo: http://adigo.com/icann/ Esté webinar tendrá interpretación al Inglés, portugués y español. Saludos, ________________ Rodrigo Saucedo rodrigo.saucedo(a)icann.org<mailto:rodrigo.delaparra@icann.org> Project Manager, Latin America and the Caribbean ICANN One World, One Internet

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Webinar "2da Actualización del Plan Estratégico LAC"
by Rodrigo Saucedo Feb. 22, 2016

Feb. 22, 2016

Estimados miembros de LACRALO, LAC GSE de ICANN tiene el agrado de invitarlos al Seminario en Línea "2da Actualización del Plan Estratégico LAC" que se llevará a cabo el 25 de Febrero 2016 a las 23:00 UTC durante 60 minutos. Expositores: Alexandra Dans - Gerente de Comunicaciones para America Latina y el Caribe ICANN Daniel Fink - Gerente de Relacionamiento para Brasil ICANN Rodrigo Saucedo - Gerente de Proyectos para América Latina y el Caribe de ICANN Agenda: Proyectos * Estudio de la Industria del DNS en America Latina y el Caribe. * Comunicaciones para America Latina y el Caribe * Información de Alto Nivel * Guía de especificaciones Técnica para convertirse en un registrador acreditado de ICANN. Q&A Adobe Connect (con audio en español): https://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacstrategy Adigo ID de conferencia: ES: 9001 ES: 9003 PT: 9007 Números de Adigo: http://adigo.com/icann/ Esté webinar tendrá interpretación al Inglés, portugués y español. Saludos, ________________ Rodrigo Saucedo rodrigo.saucedo(a)icann.org<mailto:rodrigo.delaparra@icann.org> Project Manager, Latin America and the Caribbean ICANN One World, One Internet

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2� LAC Actualizaci�n de la Estrategia Webinar
by rodrigo.saucedo＠icann.org Feb. 22, 2016

Feb. 22, 2016

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: 2ª LAC Actualización de la Estrategia Webinar De: rodrigo.saucedo(a)icann.org Estimados miembros de LACRALO, de la ICANN ALC GSE le invita a la Webinar "segunda actualización de la estrategia de ALC", que tendrá lugar el 25 de febrero 2016 a 23:00 GMT durante 60 minutos. Intervienen: Alexandra Dans - América Latina y el Caribe Principal de Comunicaciones del Administrador de la ICANN Daniel Fink - grupos de interés, Sr Director de la ICANN Rodrigo Saucedo - Gerente de Proyecto América Latina y el Caribe de la ICANN Orden del día: proyectos * Estudio sobre el mercado de DNS en América Latina y el Caribe * Plan de Comunicación para América Latina y el Caribe * Reunión de Alto Nivel * Guía de Especificaciones Técnicas para convertirse en un registrador acreditado ICANN Q & A Adobe Connect (con audio bidireccional en español): https://icann.adobeconnect.com/lacstrategy Adigo ID de conferencia: ES: 9001 ES: 9003 PT: 9007 Adigo números de marcado: http://adigo.com/icann/ Este webinar tendrá Inglés, interpretación en portugués y español. Saludos, Rodrigo Saucedo rodrigo.saucedo(a)icann.org <mailto:rodrigo.delaparra@icann.org> Administrador de proyectos, América Latina y el Caribe ICANN Un mundo, una Internet [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/3b1adecf85.html --]]

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VOTE ANNOUNCEMENT: MOU with LACNIC | MOU con LACNIC
by ICANN At-Large Staff Feb. 22, 2016

Feb. 22, 2016

[EN] Dear All, Do you approve the signature of the MOU with LACNIC? *Yes *No *Abstain In case the option YES wins, we will inform LACNIC. However this does not guarantee that the agreement will be signed, because this requires the acceptance by LACNIC. The voting process is regulated by articles 12,19 and 20 of LACRALO Rules of Procedure. The vote will be open from 16 February 2016 at 23:00 UTC until 23 February 2016 at 23:00 UTC. See the link with the MOU text: https://community.icann.org/x/PrdYAw. == [ES] Hola a todos, ¿Esta de acuerdo en aprobar la firma del MOU con LACNIC? *Si *No *Abstención En caso de que gane la opción Si, se informará de este hecho a LACNIC. Sin embargo, esto no garantiza que el acuerdo será firmado ya que se requiere de la aceptación por parte de LACNIC. El proceso de votación estará regulado por los arts 12,19 y 20 de la Reglas de Procedimiento de LACRALO. El voto estará abierto desde el 16 de Febrero del 2016 a las 23:00 UTC hasta el 23 de Febrero del 2016 a las 23:00 UTC. El link de este documento: https://community.icann.org/x/PrdYAw. Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie Peregrine, Terri Agnew and Yesim Nazlar ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> [unknown.png]

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VOTO AVISO: MOU con LACNIC | MOU con LACNIC
by staff＠atlarge.icann.org Feb. 19, 2016

Feb. 19, 2016

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: VOTO AVISO: MOU con LACNIC | MOU con LACNIC De: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org [ES] Queridos todos, ¿Usted aprueba la firma del memorando de entendimiento con LACNIC? *Sí *No *Abstenerse En el caso de la opción SÍ gana, vamos a informar a LACNIC. Sin embargo, esto no garantiza que se firmó el acuerdo, porque esto requiere la aceptación por parte de LACNIC. El proceso de votación está regulada por los artículos 12,19 y 20 de las Reglas de Procedimiento de LACRALO. La votación estará abierta del 16 de febrero 2016 a 23:00 GMT hasta el 23 de febrero de 2016 a 23:00 GMT. Vea el enlace con el texto MOU: https://community.icann.org/x/PrdYAw. == [ES] Hola a todos, Está De Acuerdo es aprobar la firma del memorando de entendimiento con LACNIC? *Si *No * Abstencin En Caso De que gane la opcin SI, SE informarde Este Hecho a LACNIC. Sin embargo, Esto No Garantiza Que El Acuerdo serfirmado ya Que se Requiere de la aceptacin por parte de LACNIC. El Proceso de votacin estarregulado Por los artes 12,19 y 20 de la Reglas de Procedimiento de LACRALO. El voto estarabierto Desde el 16 de Febrero del 2016 a las 23:00 GMT Hasta el 23 de Febrero del 2016 a las 23:00 GMT. El enlace of this document: https://community.icann.org/x/PrdYAw. Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Ariel Liang, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie peregrino, Terri Agnew y Yesim Nazlar El personal de políticas de ICANN en apoyo de la comunidad de alcance E-mail: staff(a)atlarge.icann.org <mailto:staff@atlarge.icann.org> Facebook: www.facebook.com/icann < https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge>atlarge<https://www.facebook.com/icannatlarge> Twitter: @ < https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge>ICANNAtLarge<https://twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge> [Unknown.png] [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/15258e7be9.html --]]

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Re: Las cuestiones relativas a la falta de rendici�n de cuentas y la transparencia en LACRALO
by hcarrascob＠gmail.com Feb. 19, 2016

Feb. 19, 2016

[[--Translated text (en -> es)--]] Asunto: Re: Las cuestiones relativas a la falta de rendición de cuentas y la transparencia en LACRALO De: hcarrascob(a)gmail.com Gracias Alan, Creo que es importante que todo el mundo puede entender la «Declaración». Saludos Enviado desde mi iPhone > El 19-02-2016, a las 2:51 a.m., Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca> escribiÃ³: > > Yes, I will. Alan > > At 19/02/2016 12:46 AM, asoto(a)ibero-americano.org wrote: > >> [[--Translated text (es -> en)--]] >> >> Subject: Re: Questions concerning the lack of accountability and transparency in LACRALO >> from: asoto(a)ibero-americano.org >> >> Dear Alan, please, can make the document translated into Spanish >> sent by Dev, and put at the disposal of the list? >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> Alberto Soto >> >> >> >> >> -----Original message----- >> From: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> [Mailto: lac-discuss-es-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org] On behalf of >> alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca >> Posted on: Thursday, February 18, 2016 16:27 >> To: lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> Subject: Re: [lac-discuss-en] Matters relating to the lack of >> accountability and transparency in LACRALO >> >> >> >> >> [[Translated text (in -> en) -]] >> >> >> Subject: Re: Questions concerning the lack of accountability and >> transparency in LACRALO >> From: alan.greenberg(a)mcgill.ca >> >> >> dev, >> >> >> >> >> Two brief comments. >> >> >> >> >> 1. I understand that there is a process in place to address and hopefully fix >> some of the root causes of the problems that you refer. >> I fear that this has been carried out currently on the staff >> ICANN can not give more details other than to say that something estpasando. >> >> >> >> >> 2. I am not in a position to predict the outcome, but I plan >> include the problem raised in the second bullet, the ability to >> address disputes RALO ALAC level, plantearn during a prxima >> revisiny upgrade of the Rules of Procedure of ALAC. >> >> >> >> >> Alan >> >> >> >> >> On 02/18/2016 13:27 Teelucksingh Dev Anand wrote: >> > Se adjunta una declaraciÃ³n de varias estructuras de alcance en la > >> LACRALO> Which makes some suggestions on the way forward. >> > >> > En la declaraciÃ³n tambiÃ©n se puede ver en > >> ility-and-Transparency-in-LACRALO.pdf >> > >> > Esta declaraciÃ³n fue enviado durante la reuniÃ³n ICANN54 DublÃn en octubre >> > 2015 para el GSE regional, el personal, la silla de ALAC, el Defensor del >> > EstÃ¡ siendo hecha pÃºblica ahora antes de la reuniÃ³n de la ICANN en >> any> Debates in Marrakech, and so that no distortion occurs. >> > >> > >> > Saludos cordiales, >> > >> > Dev Anand Teelucksingh >> > >> > Content-Type: application / pdf; name = >> > >> >"Issues-regarding-Lack-of-Accountability-and-Transparency-in-LACRALO.pdf" >> >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename= >> > >> >"Issues-regarding-Lack-of-Accountability-and-Transparency-in-LACRALO.pdf" >> >X-Attachment-Id: f_iksbf8tl0 >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >lac-discuss-en mailing list >> >lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> >https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [[--Original text (en) http://mm.icann.org/transbot_archive/4ce39591c8.html --]]

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