Arabic Letters and Punycode Conversion
Dears, I hope that you have a good day, I am doing a sample application about getting systems UA ready for my presentation "Accept Criteria" , I got something strange which is - For Arabic letters, conversion to Punycode is limited to 57 letters only Do you have an idea about that !! Thnx All the Best, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry, Operation Sector. [NTRA Logo 2016] National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile] Mobile: +2 010 00049068 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: ICON] Fax : +2 02 35370537 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE] Website : http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila@mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg> : atharwat@tra.gov.eg<mailto:atharwat@tra.gov.eg> [Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila [Description: static_qr_code_without_logo] [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify your system support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) . Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email.
Hi, do you mean limited to a string of length 57, or that there are 57 characters that can be converted to punycode (I am not sure how many different Arabic letters are possible when counting all the possible combinations of diacritics...) cheers Chaals On Mon, 04 Jun 2018 10:01:58 +0200, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg> wrote:
Dears,
I hope that you have a good day, I am doing a sample application about getting systems UA ready for my presentation “Accept Criteria” , I got something strange which is
- For Arabic letters, conversion to Punycode is limited to 57 letters only Do you have an idea about that !!
Thnx
All the Best, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,
Operation Sector.
National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority
Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300
Mobile: +2 010 00049068 Fax : +2 02 35370537
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On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:54:55PM +0200, Chaals Nevile wrote:
Hi,
do you mean limited to a string of length 57, or that there are 57 characters that can be converted to punycode (I am not sure how many different Arabic letters are possible when counting all the possible combinations of diacritics...)
In any case, Punycode can represent all of Unicode, because of the way it is designed, so it is not true that only 57 characters "can be converted to punycode". It might be that some zone's policies, however, are sufficiently restrictive that only 57 Arabic code points are permitted. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
Could you try this Punycode converter ? https://www.verisign.com/en_US/channel-resources/domain-registry-products/id... -----Original Message----- From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 9:35 PM To: ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Arabic Letters and Punycode Conversion On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 02:54:55PM +0200, Chaals Nevile wrote:
Hi,
do you mean limited to a string of length 57, or that there are 57 characters that can be converted to punycode (I am not sure how many different Arabic letters are possible when counting all the possible combinations of diacritics...)
In any case, Punycode can represent all of Unicode, because of the way it is designed, so it is not true that only 57 characters "can be converted to punycode". It might be that some zone's policies, however, are sufficiently restrictive that only 57 Arabic code points are permitted. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
Yes, limited to 57 characters “Punycode converters only converts this number of Arabic characters”, Mr. Raed “Saudi NIC” replied that 57+4 or 6 “xn—or xn----” so the total will be 61 or 63 . Thnx All the Best, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry, Operation Sector. 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From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Chaals Nevile Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 2:55 PM To: ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Arabic Letters and Punycode Conversion Hi, do you mean limited to a string of length 57, or that there are 57 characters that can be converted to punycode (I am not sure how many different Arabic letters are possible when counting all the possible combinations of diacritics...) cheers Chaals On Mon, 04 Jun 2018 10:01:58 +0200, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg>> wrote: Dears, I hope that you have a good day, I am doing a sample application about getting systems UA ready for my presentation “Accept Criteria” , I got something strange which is - For Arabic letters, conversion to Punycode is limited to 57 letters only Do you have an idea about that !! Thnx All the Best, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry, Operation Sector. [NTRA Logo 2016] National Telecommunication Regulatory Authority [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523405_telephone] Office Tel.: +2 02 35341582 - +2 02 35341300 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Mobile] Mobile: +2 010 00049068 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: ICON] Fax : +2 02 35370537 [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: oNLINE] Website : http:\\www.mcit.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> : http:\\www.tra.gov.eg<http://www.mcit.gov.eg/> [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523294_email] E-mail : agalila@mcit.gov.eg<mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg> : atharwat@tra.gov.eg<mailto:atharwat@tra.gov.eg> [Description: 1447802547_skype] Skype : abdalmonem.galila [Description: static_qr_code_without_logo] [Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: Description: 1365523469_error]DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. 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On 6/4/2018 1:01 AM, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila wrote:
Dears,
I hope that you have a good day, I am doing a sample application about getting systems UA ready for my presentation
“Accept Criteria” , I got something strange which is
-For Arabic letters, conversion to Punycode is limited to 57 letters only
Do you have an idea about that !!
There is a limit 63 ASCII characters for the punycode label, including the xn-- prefix. Compressing 57 Arabic characters into 59 ASCII codes would seem to be impressive. Am I missing anything? A./
Thnx
All the Best,
Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila
Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry,
Operation Sector.
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Finally I got the answer for my below question :- If you tried to convert xn—hhbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa “64 Character” to it’s Unicode version, it will works and you will get “ممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممم” which is 57 Character which is less than 65 characters. If you tried to convert “مممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممممم” which is 64 character to it’s Punycode version, it will not works as the result of the conversion will be more than 64 characters. You could try this https://www.verisign.com/en_US/channel-resources/domain-registry-products/id... Thnx All the Best, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry, Operation Sector. 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If you have received this email in error please notify your system support manager. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the National Telecom Regulatory Authority (NTRA) . Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The NTRA accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 10:02 AM To: ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: [UA-discuss] Arabic Letters and Punycode Conversion Importance: High Dears, I hope that you have a good day, I am doing a sample application about getting systems UA ready for my presentation “Accept Criteria” , I got something strange which is - For Arabic letters, conversion to Punycode is limited to 57 letters only Do you have an idea about that !! Thnx All the Best, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila Deputy Manager, Dot Masr Registry, Operation Sector. 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Asmus Freytag -
Chaals Nevile