Hello, Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table. thanks. Jiankang Yao
Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though. --andrei Отправлено с iPad
Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn> написал(а):
Hello,
Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table.
thanks.
Jiankang Yao
yes, outlook 7.0 supports and recognizes idn@idn.idn, which also receives IDN@idn via pop3. But it can not support the sending of idn@idn.idn via SMTP. Jiankang Yao From: Andrei Kolesnikov Date: 2015-02-12 17:38 To: yaojk CC: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though. --andrei Отправлено с iPad Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn> написал(а): Hello, Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table. thanks. Jiankang Yao
Yes, there are *many* various customer configurations that we support :) stay tuned as we determine how best to express our progress and commitment without over-promising to anyone. Thanks for your patience. /marksv From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jiankang Yao Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:06 PM To: andrei Cc: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email yes, outlook 7.0 supports and recognizes idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn>, which also receives IDN@idn<mailto:IDN@idn> via pop3. But it can not support the sending of idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn> via SMTP. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Andrei Kolesnikov<mailto:andrei@cctld.ru> Date: 2015-02-12 17:38 To: yaojk<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn> CC: ua-discuss<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn> Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though. --andrei Отправлено с iPad Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn>> написал(а): Hello, Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table. thanks. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao
Dear Mark, Thanks for your kind information. Many companies and organizations' systems in China have been upgraded to support EAI (The wording Brent suggests. :)). Our customer service centers get many complains about their email clients which can not support EAI. So many customers are waiting for outlook's upgrading to support EAI because outlook are very popular in China and the world. Jiankang Yao From: Mark Svancarek Date: 2015-02-13 09:11 To: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Yes, there are *many* various customer configurations that we support J stay tuned as we determine how best to express our progress and commitment without over-promising to anyone. Thanks for your patience. /marksv From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jiankang Yao Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:06 PM To: andrei Cc: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email yes, outlook 7.0 supports and recognizes idn@idn.idn, which also receives IDN@idn via pop3. But it can not support the sending of idn@idn.idn via SMTP. Jiankang Yao From: Andrei Kolesnikov Date: 2015-02-12 17:38 To: yaojk CC: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though. --andrei Отправлено с iPad Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn> написал(а): Hello, Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table. thanks. Jiankang Yao
At this time, when clarity is scarce and so needed, I'll take pedantic emails every time. Thanks for the clarification Brent. --Rich Richard Merdinger VP, Domains e: rmerdinger@godaddy.com<mailto:rmerdinger@godaddy.com> s: richard.merdinger m: 319.530.4100 From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jiankang Yao Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:32 PM To: Mark Svancarek; ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Dear Mark, Thanks for your kind information. Many companies and organizations' systems in China have been upgraded to support EAI (The wording Brent suggests. :)). Our customer service centers get many complains about their email clients which can not support EAI. So many customers are waiting for outlook's upgrading to support EAI because outlook are very popular in China and the world. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Mark Svancarek<mailto:marksv@microsoft.com> Date: 2015-02-13 09:11 To: ua-discuss<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Yes, there are *many* various customer configurations that we support :) stay tuned as we determine how best to express our progress and commitment without over-promising to anyone. Thanks for your patience. /marksv From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jiankang Yao Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:06 PM To: andrei Cc: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email yes, outlook 7.0 supports and recognizes idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn>, which also receives IDN@idn<mailto:IDN@idn> via pop3. But it can not support the sending of idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn> via SMTP. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Andrei Kolesnikov<mailto:andrei@cctld.ru> Date: 2015-02-12 17:38 To: yaojk<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn> CC: ua-discuss<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn> Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though. --andrei Отправлено с iPad Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn>> написал(а): Hello, Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table. thanks. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao
I think it would be good for us to share information about customer demand for EAI and IDN, or related support calls. Do you have any statistics you can share? From: Jiankang Yao [mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:32 PM To: Mark Svancarek; ua-discuss Subject: Re: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Dear Mark, Thanks for your kind information. Many companies and organizations' systems in China have been upgraded to support EAI (The wording Brent suggests. :)). Our customer service centers get many complains about their email clients which can not support EAI. So many customers are waiting for outlook's upgrading to support EAI because outlook are very popular in China and the world. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Mark Svancarek<mailto:marksv@microsoft.com> Date: 2015-02-13 09:11 To: ua-discuss<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Yes, there are *many* various customer configurations that we support :) stay tuned as we determine how best to express our progress and commitment without over-promising to anyone. Thanks for your patience. /marksv From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jiankang Yao Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:06 PM To: andrei Cc: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email yes, outlook 7.0 supports and recognizes idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn>, which also receives IDN@idn<mailto:IDN@idn> via pop3. But it can not support the sending of idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn> via SMTP. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Andrei Kolesnikov<mailto:andrei@cctld.ru> Date: 2015-02-12 17:38 To: yaojk<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn> CC: ua-discuss<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn> Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though. --andrei Отправлено с iPad Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn>> написал(а): Hello, Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table. thanks. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao
here is some simple information: Coremail is the first one in china which supports EAI. Coremail has sold many EAI systems, which has supported almost one million users. for example, cnnic's email system have been upgraded to support eai. One of the top email service providers (163.com or neteasy) with around 400 Million users has updated his basic email system to support EAI. In the near future, 163.com will porvide public eai service. So around 1 million users in China has already enjoyed the eai service. So our customer service center normally have the following questions from users: 1, Where can I apply the eai account? 2, why does my email client not support eai? 3, which software does support eai? 4, When will the non-eai email service provider support EAI? Jiankang Yao From: Mark Svancarek Date: 2015-02-14 01:01 To: yaojk; ua-discuss Subject: RE: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email I think it would be good for us to share information about customer demand for EAI and IDN, or related support calls. Do you have any statistics you can share? From: Jiankang Yao [mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:32 PM To: Mark Svancarek; ua-discuss Subject: Re: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Dear Mark, Thanks for your kind information. Many companies and organizations' systems in China have been upgraded to support EAI (The wording Brent suggests. :)). Our customer service centers get many complains about their email clients which can not support EAI. So many customers are waiting for outlook's upgrading to support EAI because outlook are very popular in China and the world. Jiankang Yao From: Mark Svancarek Date: 2015-02-13 09:11 To: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Yes, there are *many* various customer configurations that we support J stay tuned as we determine how best to express our progress and commitment without over-promising to anyone. Thanks for your patience. /marksv From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jiankang Yao Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:06 PM To: andrei Cc: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email yes, outlook 7.0 supports and recognizes idn@idn.idn, which also receives IDN@idn via pop3. But it can not support the sending of idn@idn.idn via SMTP. Jiankang Yao From: Andrei Kolesnikov Date: 2015-02-12 17:38 To: yaojk CC: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though. --andrei Отправлено с iPad Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn> написал(а): Hello, Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table. thanks. Jiankang Yao
Sorry for delay responding. Thank you, that is helpful. Is there any way to measure · How many users of Coremail or 163 or Neteasy have actually tried to use EAI? · How many support calls Coremail receives regarding EAI? At Microsoft I have seen less than a dozen business escalations in 4 years for IDN and EAI combined. That's not necessarily indicative of overall demand, it's just an indication of how many managed commercial customers were motivated to file an escalation. It would be good to get some real end user statistics if possible. Do you think Coremail would be willing to share some of this information with this group? /marksv From: Jiankang Yao [mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 6:49 PM To: Mark Svancarek; ua-discuss Subject: Re: RE: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email here is some simple information: Coremail is the first one in china which supports EAI. Coremail has sold many EAI systems, which has supported almost one million users. for example, cnnic's email system have been upgraded to support eai. One of the top email service providers (163.com or neteasy) with around 400 Million users has updated his basic email system to support EAI. In the near future, 163.com will porvide public eai service. So around 1 million users in China has already enjoyed the eai service. So our customer service center normally have the following questions from users: 1, Where can I apply the eai account? 2, why does my email client not support eai? 3, which software does support eai? 4, When will the non-eai email service provider support EAI? ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Mark Svancarek<mailto:marksv@microsoft.com> Date: 2015-02-14 01:01 To: yaojk<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn>; ua-discuss<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: RE: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email I think it would be good for us to share information about customer demand for EAI and IDN, or related support calls. Do you have any statistics you can share? From: Jiankang Yao [mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:32 PM To: Mark Svancarek; ua-discuss Subject: Re: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Dear Mark, Thanks for your kind information. Many companies and organizations' systems in China have been upgraded to support EAI (The wording Brent suggests. :)). Our customer service centers get many complains about their email clients which can not support EAI. So many customers are waiting for outlook's upgrading to support EAI because outlook are very popular in China and the world. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Mark Svancarek<mailto:marksv@microsoft.com> Date: 2015-02-13 09:11 To: ua-discuss<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Yes, there are *many* various customer configurations that we support :) stay tuned as we determine how best to express our progress and commitment without over-promising to anyone. Thanks for your patience. /marksv From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Jiankang Yao Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 5:06 PM To: andrei Cc: ua-discuss Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email yes, outlook 7.0 supports and recognizes idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn>, which also receives IDN@idn<mailto:IDN@idn> via pop3. But it can not support the sending of idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn> via SMTP. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao From: Andrei Kolesnikov<mailto:andrei@cctld.ru> Date: 2015-02-12 17:38 To: yaojk<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn> CC: ua-discuss<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn<mailto:idn@idn.idn> Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though. --andrei Отправлено с iPad Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn<mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn>> написал(а): Hello, Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table. thanks. ________________________________ Jiankang Yao
This is a pedantic point, but I've noticed it cause confusion in casual conversation, which is why I'm mentioning it. "IDN" means "internationalized domain name", so "IDN email" should mean "email address with an internationalized domain name in it." For example: ASCII@IDN.IDN In the context of universal acceptance, we are talking about "email address internationalization" (EAI), which has a broader scope---an internationalized local-part---and different RFCs than "IDN email": Non-ASCII@IDN.IDN On Feb 13, 2015 9:07 AM, "Jiankang Yao" <yaojk@cnnic.cn> wrote:
yes, outlook 7.0 supports and recognizes idn@idn.idn, which also receives IDN@idn via pop3. But it can not support the sending of idn@idn.idn via SMTP.
------------------------------ Jiankang Yao
*From:* Andrei Kolesnikov <andrei@cctld.ru> *Date:* 2015-02-12 17:38 *To:* yaojk <yaojk@cnnic.cn> *CC:* ua-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] Microsoft outlook's support of idn email Outlook client for windows does support and recognize idn@idn.idn Cyrillic email It doesn't fly with hotmail / outlook web email though.
--andrei
Отправлено с iPad
Feb 12, 2015, в 2:43 PM, Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn> написал(а):
Hello,
Is there any news about Microsoft outlook's support of idn email ? I heard that Microsoft will support it, but do not know the time table.
thanks.
------------------------------ Jiankang Yao
participants (5)
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Andrei Kolesnikov -
Brent London -
Jiankang Yao -
Mark Svancarek -
Richard Merdinger