Just a heads up for whoever is interested: There is a proposal in the works in the Unicode Consortium to deprecate the "deviation" mappings in UTS#46 and to declare the transitional period to be over. This recognizes the fact that some registries are no longer compatible with the deviation mappings and some browsers have stopped supporting them. Four characters are affected, including ß and final sigma. A./
Asmus: This is interesting! Could you please give a link to the proposal — a document number, a URL, a link to an email thread? From what I have seen of software developers wanting to stick with IDNA 2003 instead of moving to IDNA 2008, the declarations of UTS #46 do not seem to be a major factor. UTS #46 talks of a transition, but I don't hear developers talking about being mid-transition. The use using IDNA 2003 seem to want to stay with IDNA 2003 until some other factor — like a library, or a more important piece of software in their ecosystem — changes to adopt IDNA 2008. Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt On 2023-02-23 14:16, Asmus Freytag via UA-discuss wrote:
Just a heads up for whoever is interested:
There is a proposal in the works in the Unicode Consortium to deprecate the "deviation" mappings in UTS#46 and to declare the transitional period to be over. This recognizes the fact that some registries are no longer compatible with the deviation mappings and some browsers have stopped supporting them.
Four characters are affected, including ß and final sigma.
A./
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On 3/1/2023 3:52 PM, Jim DeLaHunt via UA-discuss wrote:
Asmus:
This is interesting! Could you please give a link to the proposal — a document number, a URL, a link to an email thread?
This discussion is internal to the relevant sub-group in Unicode, for the moment. A publicly visible document may show up for the agenda of the next UTC meeting. (Until then, you'd have to be a collaborator or member to access the details, and if you are, you know where to look).
From what I have seen of software developers wanting to stick with IDNA 2003 instead of moving to IDNA 2008, the declarations of UTS #46 do not seem to be a major factor. UTS #46 talks of a transition, but I don't hear developers talking about being mid-transition. The use using IDNA 2003 seem to want to stay with IDNA 2003 until some other factor — like a library, or a more important piece of software in their ecosystem — changes to adopt IDNA 2008.
Yeah, my impression as well, but this would be a small step to mark the beginning of the end. The proposal deliberately chooses to "deprecate", not remove, at this point. Hoping that sends a signal. A./
Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt
On 2023-02-23 14:16, Asmus Freytag via UA-discuss wrote:
Just a heads up for whoever is interested:
There is a proposal in the works in the Unicode Consortium to deprecate the "deviation" mappings in UTS#46 and to declare the transitional period to be over. This recognizes the fact that some registries are no longer compatible with the deviation mappings and some browsers have stopped supporting them.
Four characters are affected, including ß and final sigma.
A./
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