Moscow MSK Time Zone in 2014 changed again

Hi Due to regulations of the Russian parliament, MSK timezone changed again. please update files. Your latest fix is regarding president Medvedev changes. But Putin returned it back Now MSK is UTC+3 timezone, not +4. News: http://news.yahoo.com/russia-turns-back-clocks-permanent-winter-time-1941482... http://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/russia-reintroduces-dst-2014.html In Russian: Moscow is returned to winter time: http://itar-tass.com/obschestvo/1333711 Kind regards Evgeni Makarov evgeni.makarov@gmail.com

Hi Paul Thanks for reply I yesterday downloaded a file from FTP (from wget --retr-symlinks ' ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tz*-latest.tar.gz') and there was no new line about this change. Where's possible to get a new release? Kind regards Evgeni 2014-10-29 13:34 GMT+08:00 Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>:
Evgeni Makarov wrote:
Putin returned it back
That change first appeared in tz release 2014f, dated 2014-08-05 17:42:36 -0700. It sounds like you have an old release and need to upgrade.

Evgeni Makarov wrote:
I yesterday downloaded a file from FTP (from wget --retr-symlinks ' ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tz*-latest.tar.gz') and there was no new line about this change.
It worked for me just now; please see below. Perhaps you have an old web cache? Or perhaps you're looking at the wrong lines? $ wget --retr-symlinks 'ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tz*-latest.tar.gz' --2014-10-29 00:37:19-- ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tz*-latest.tar.gz => ‘.listing’ Resolving ftp.iana.org (ftp.iana.org)... 192.0.32.8, 2620:0:2d0:200::8 Connecting to ftp.iana.org (ftp.iana.org)|192.0.32.8|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! ==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done. ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD (1) /tz ... done. ==> PASV ... done. ==> LIST ... done. [ <=> ] 1,003 --.-K/s in 0.002s 2014-10-29 00:37:19 (458 KB/s) - ‘.listing’ saved [1003] Removed ‘.listing’. --2014-10-29 00:37:19-- ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tzcode-latest.tar.gz => ‘tzcode-latest.tar.gz’ ==> CWD not required. ==> SIZE tzcode-latest.tar.gz ... 181815 ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR tzcode-latest.tar.gz ... done. Length: 181815 (178K) (unauthoritative) 100%[======================================>] 181,815 --.-K/s in 0.06s 2014-10-29 00:37:19 (2.67 MB/s) - ‘tzcode-latest.tar.gz’ saved [181815] --2014-10-29 00:37:19-- ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tzdata-latest.tar.gz => ‘tzdata-latest.tar.gz’ ==> CWD not required. ==> SIZE tzdata-latest.tar.gz ... 289312 ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR tzdata-latest.tar.gz ... done. Length: 289312 (283K) (unauthoritative) 100%[======================================>] 289,312 --.-K/s in 0.08s 2014-10-29 00:37:19 (3.47 MB/s) - ‘tzdata-latest.tar.gz’ saved [289312] $ tar xf tzdata-latest.tar.gz $ grep -n '2014 Oct 26' europe 746: 3:00 - FET 2014 Oct 26 1:00s 2250: 3:00 - FET 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2330: 4:00 - MSK 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2372: 4:00 - MSK 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2395: 4:00 - MSK 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2444: 6:00 - YEKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2461: 7:00 - OMST 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2479: 7:00 - NOVT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2519: 7:00 - NOVT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2539: 8:00 - KRAT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2561: 9:00 - IRKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2577: 10:00 - YAKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2622: 10:00 - YAKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2645: 11:00 - VLAT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2670: 10:00 - YAKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2688: 11:00 - SAKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2708: 12:00 - MAGT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2761: 12:00 - MAGT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2786: 11:00 - VLAT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s $

I see But does it correct that we have line 596: 596 Rule Russia 1996 2010 - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0 - And then no similar rule for 2014 when this rule was reverted? 2014-10-29 15:40 GMT+08:00 Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>:
Evgeni Makarov wrote:
I yesterday downloaded a file from FTP (from wget --retr-symlinks ' ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tz*-latest.tar.gz') and there was no new line about this change.
It worked for me just now; please see below. Perhaps you have an old web cache? Or perhaps you're looking at the wrong lines?
$ wget --retr-symlinks 'ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tz*-latest.tar.gz' --2014-10-29 00:37:19-- ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tz*-latest.tar.gz => '.listing' Resolving ftp.iana.org (ftp.iana.org)... 192.0.32.8, 2620:0:2d0:200::8 Connecting to ftp.iana.org (ftp.iana.org)|192.0.32.8|:21... connected. Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! ==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done. ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD (1) /tz ... done. ==> PASV ... done. ==> LIST ... done.
[ <=> ] 1,003 --.-K/s in 0.002s
2014-10-29 00:37:19 (458 KB/s) - '.listing' saved [1003]
Removed '.listing'. --2014-10-29 00:37:19-- ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tzcode-latest.tar.gz => 'tzcode-latest.tar.gz' ==> CWD not required. ==> SIZE tzcode-latest.tar.gz ... 181815 ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR tzcode-latest.tar.gz ... done. Length: 181815 (178K) (unauthoritative)
100%[======================================>] 181,815 --.-K/s in 0.06s
2014-10-29 00:37:19 (2.67 MB/s) - 'tzcode-latest.tar.gz' saved [181815]
--2014-10-29 00:37:19-- ftp://ftp.iana.org/tz/tzdata-latest.tar.gz => 'tzdata-latest.tar.gz' ==> CWD not required. ==> SIZE tzdata-latest.tar.gz ... 289312 ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR tzdata-latest.tar.gz ... done. Length: 289312 (283K) (unauthoritative)
100%[======================================>] 289,312 --.-K/s in 0.08s
2014-10-29 00:37:19 (3.47 MB/s) - 'tzdata-latest.tar.gz' saved [289312]
$ tar xf tzdata-latest.tar.gz $ grep -n '2014 Oct 26' europe 746: 3:00 - FET 2014 Oct 26 1:00s 2250: 3:00 - FET 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2330: 4:00 - MSK 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2372: 4:00 - MSK 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2395: 4:00 - MSK 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2444: 6:00 - YEKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2461: 7:00 - OMST 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2479: 7:00 - NOVT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2519: 7:00 - NOVT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2539: 8:00 - KRAT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2561: 9:00 - IRKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2577: 10:00 - YAKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2622: 10:00 - YAKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2645: 11:00 - VLAT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2670: 10:00 - YAKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2688: 11:00 - SAKT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2708: 12:00 - MAGT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2761: 12:00 - MAGT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s 2786: 11:00 - VLAT 2014 Oct 26 2:00s $

Evgeni Makarov wrote:
But does it correct that we have line 596:
596 Rule Russia 1996 2010 - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0 -
And then no similar rule for 2014 when this rule was reverted?
Rules are about daylight saving time, and last weekend's change is about standard time. Although the Russian popular press may have described the change as an abolition of "perpetual" daylight saving time, from the tz database point of view "perpetual" daylight saving time is just another name for standard time, and therefore the tz database modeled the recent Russian change as being a change to standard time. Another way to put it is that although governments may set standards, standards change and nothing is perpetual....

Thank you for clarification! 2014-10-29 12:01 GMT+04:00 Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>:
Evgeni Makarov wrote:
But does it correct that we have line 596:
596 Rule Russia 1996 2010 - Oct lastSun 2:00s 0 -
And then no similar rule for 2014 when this rule was reverted?
Rules are about daylight saving time, and last weekend's change is about standard time. Although the Russian popular press may have described the change as an abolition of "perpetual" daylight saving time, from the tz database point of view "perpetual" daylight saving time is just another name for standard time, and therefore the tz database modeled the recent Russian change as being a change to standard time.
Another way to put it is that although governments may set standards, standards change and nothing is perpetual....
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