Hello Paul, On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:48:11PM -0800, Paul Eggert wrote:
Thanks for your careful analyis. Some comments:
the term "Eastern Turkestan" refers to the historic name of the region, as a country, when it was outside China's rule for brief periods in history.
OK, sorry, then I misunderstood the boundaries. As far as I know, though, the region was not controlled by China until after the Manchus conquered it in 1759, so it was independent (or anarchic :-) for more than just "brief periods".
To be honest, I didn't know the boundaries either until I came across sites like: http://www.unpo.org/member/eturk/eturk.html on which Eastern Turkestan and Tibet are both shown as individual countries separate from China, and Eastern Turkestan appears to cover the entire Xinjiang. And than I discovered that Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region is the entire Xinjiang, not just part of it. (I didn't know that. :-) The region has been ruled by China in some previous dynasties AFAIK. Might have been part of China during the Tang Dynasty and Yuan (Mongol) Dynasty. But yes, I was oversimplifying when I wrote "outside China's rule for brief periods". I should go read it up when I have time. (My excuse is that I left for Canada to study from Grade 9 until graduating from university, so my knowledge in Chinese history and geography is lacking. :-)
west Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (Eastern Turkestan), China
Wow, that's quite a mouthful. How about just "southwest Xinjiang" instead? That's shorter.
Sure, that sounds good. :-)
I have also changed "Macao" to "Macau". Why? :-) 1. Macau is the official name (in both English and Portuguese). See www.macau.gov.mo, for example. 2. On recent trips to Macau, I can no longer find any signs that say "Macao". 3. ISO 3166 says MO = Macau in English; MO = Macao in French. 4. On Google, Macau: 810000 hits; Macao: 311000 hits.
Sounds good; thanks.
Thanks! :-)
+CN +3114+12128 Asia/Shanghai Beijing, Shanghai, Guangdong, and most eastern locations in China +CN +4545+12641 Asia/Harbin northeast China - Heilongjiang +CN +2934+10635 Asia/Chongqing central China - Gansu, Guangdong, Guizhou, Ningxia, Shaanxi, Sichuan, Yunnan, etc. +CN +4348+08735 Asia/Urumqi Tibet (Xizang) & most of Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Regions, China +CN +3929+07559 Asia/Kashgar west Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (Eastern Turkestan), China
Hmm, that can't be right: you've got Guangdong in two different zones.
Oops! Yes, I meant "Guangxi" (i.e. the "Guang West" instead of Guangdong for "Guang East". Mea culpa))
How about something like this instead? I'll try to see if I can come up with a more complete list of provinces, but I don't want the comments field to be so large that 'tzselect' produces confusing output.
That's true. :-)
CN +3114+12128 Asia/Shanghai east China - Beijing, Guangdong, Shanghai, etc. CN +4545+12641 Asia/Harbin Heilongjiang CN +2934+10635 Asia/Chongqing central China - Gansu, Guizhou, Sichuan, Yunnan, etc.
If you prefer, you could put Guangxi back in there, if not too long. :-)
CN +4348+08735 Asia/Urumqi Tibet & most of Xinjiang CN +3929+07559 Asia/Kashgar southwest Xinjiang
Thank you very much for your help! :-) Best regards, Anthony -- Anthony Fok Tung-Ling ThizLinux Laboratory <anthony@thizlinux.com> http://www.thizlinux.com/ Debian Chinese Project <foka@debian.org> http://www.debian.org/intl/zh/ Come visit Our Lady of Victory Camp! http://www.olvc.ab.ca/