Folks, Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet: [cid:image001.png@01D6B1C9.9C3721D0] So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less. I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars. Jonathan Jonathan Zuck | Executive Director | Innovators Network jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck | [cid:image002.png@01D6B1C9.9C3721D0]
Welcome to my world.. thats the speed I normally get. On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 7:14 AM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Folks,
Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet:
So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less.
I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars.
Jonathan
Jonathan Zuck *|* Executive Director *|* Innovators Network
jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck |
I certainly got a dose of empathy here, right in the middle of IGF! The KEY takeaway, however is that YT streaming allowed me to participate in an event that otherwise would have been impossible for me to attend. Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org> ________________________________ From: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 10:19:07 AM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ICANN At-Large Staff <staff@atlarge.icann.org>; icann69-pc <icann69-pc-bounces@icann.org>; León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx> Subject: Re: Youtube streaming Welcome to my world.. thats the speed I normally get. On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 7:14 AM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: Folks, Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet: [cid:1758f1cb04e4cff311] So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less. I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars. Jonathan Jonathan Zuck | Executive Director | Innovators Network jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck | [cid:1758f1cb04f5b16b22]
Dear Jonathan, my understanding of the technology leads me to believe that YouTube indeed has a Quality of Service algorithm that lowers the bitrate when it detects lower speed connections, thus, as you said, the resolution of the video is lowered. Add with this, some caching taking place at your ISP, which is probable, you've got a more stable connection through YT. Part of the reason why it is very hard for other video delivery services to compete on quality with YT. Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/11/2020 18:14, Jonathan Zuck wrote:
Folks,
Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet:
So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less.
I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars.
Jonathan
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The other useful aspect about YouTube streaming is the availability of the recording afterwards. With At-Large/ICANN Zoom recordings (and previously Adobe Connect) , its additional work and therefore a delay to extract Zoom recordings. Also such recordings have to be uploaded somewhere and put at a new URL which has to be circulated afterwards and added to a wiki, leading to more email clutter and more busy work. Zoom does allow for streaming a Zoom Meeting to YouTube https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360028478292-Streaming-a-Meeting-o... . It's worth experimenting with having YouTube streaming At-Large regular calls . Dev Anand On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 1:14 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Folks,
Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet:
So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less.
I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars.
Jonathan
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Dear Dev, during the recent ICANN YT streaming trial, for some reason the recording was not available. I do not know whether it was done on purpose or not. Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/11/2020 19:03, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
The other useful aspect about YouTube streaming is the availability of the recording afterwards. With At-Large/ICANN Zoom recordings (and previously Adobe Connect) , its additional work and therefore a delay to extract Zoom recordings. Also such recordings have to be uploaded somewhere and put at a new URL which has to be circulated afterwards and added to a wiki, leading to more email clutter and more busy work.
Zoom does allow for streaming a Zoom Meeting to YouTube https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360028478292-Streaming-a-Meeting-o... . It's worth experimenting with having YouTube streaming At-Large regular calls .
Dev Anand
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 1:14 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
Folks,
Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet:
So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less.
I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars.
Jonathan
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Who made that decision? On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 8:52 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Dev,
during the recent ICANN YT streaming trial, for some reason the recording was not available. I do not know whether it was done on purpose or not. Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 03/11/2020 19:03, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
The other useful aspect about YouTube streaming is the availability of the recording afterwards. With At-Large/ICANN Zoom recordings (and previously Adobe Connect) , its additional work and therefore a delay to extract Zoom recordings. Also such recordings have to be uploaded somewhere and put at a new URL which has to be circulated afterwards and added to a wiki, leading to more email clutter and more busy work.
Zoom does allow for streaming a Zoom Meeting to YouTube https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360028478292-Streaming-a-Meeting-o... . It's worth experimenting with having YouTube streaming At-Large regular calls .
Dev Anand
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 1:14 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Folks,
Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet:
So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less.
I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars.
Jonathan
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Dear Maureen, I do not know - but I can speculate that the immediate archiving on YT was removed so as to keep a single point of source for the session recordings. For example, the public forum: https://69.schedule.icann.org/meetings/MysjMmkPbQELaLFar#/?limit=10&sortByFields[0]=isPinned&sortByFields[1]=lastActivityAt&sortByOrders[0]=-1&sortByOrders[1]=-1&uid=a6ijir8iemBHYWRru Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/11/2020 20:03, Maureen Hilyard wrote:
Who made that decision?
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 8:52 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote:
Dear Dev,
during the recent ICANN YT streaming trial, for some reason the recording was not available. I do not know whether it was done on purpose or not. Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 03/11/2020 19:03, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote:
The other useful aspect about YouTube streaming is the availability of the recording afterwards. With At-Large/ICANN Zoom recordings (and previously Adobe Connect) , its additional work and therefore a delay to extract Zoom recordings. Also such recordings have to be uploaded somewhere and put at a new URL which has to be circulated afterwards and added to a wiki, leading to more email clutter and more busy work.
Zoom does allow for streaming a Zoom Meeting to YouTube https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360028478292-Streaming-a-Meeting-o... . It's worth experimenting with having YouTube streaming At-Large regular calls .
Dev Anand
On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 1:14 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
Folks,
Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet:
So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less.
I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars.
Jonathan
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Perhaps. ICANN legal may regard it as some kind of liability. Who knows. Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org> ________________________________ From: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2020 1:32:02 PM To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> Cc: León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe@sanchez.mx>; Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [technology taskforce] Youtube streaming Dear Maureen, I do not know - but I can speculate that the immediate archiving on YT was removed so as to keep a single point of source for the session recordings. For example, the public forum: https://69.schedule.icann.org/meetings/MysjMmkPbQELaLFar#/?limit=10&sortByFields[0]=isPinned&sortByFields[1]=lastActivityAt&sortByOrders[0]=-1&sortByOrders[1]=-1&uid=a6ijir8iemBHYWRru Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/11/2020 20:03, Maureen Hilyard wrote: Who made that decision? On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 8:52 AM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote: Dear Dev, during the recent ICANN YT streaming trial, for some reason the recording was not available. I do not know whether it was done on purpose or not. Kindest regards, Olivier On 03/11/2020 19:03, Dev Anand Teelucksingh wrote: The other useful aspect about YouTube streaming is the availability of the recording afterwards. With At-Large/ICANN Zoom recordings (and previously Adobe Connect) , its additional work and therefore a delay to extract Zoom recordings. Also such recordings have to be uploaded somewhere and put at a new URL which has to be circulated afterwards and added to a wiki, leading to more email clutter and more busy work. Zoom does allow for streaming a Zoom Meeting to YouTube https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/360028478292-Streaming-a-Meeting-o... . It's worth experimenting with having YouTube streaming At-Large regular calls . Dev Anand On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 1:14 PM Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote: Folks, Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet: So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less. I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars. Jonathan Jonathan Zuck | Executive Director | Innovators Network jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck | [cid:part5.8D6F5176.B8C8E528@gih.com] _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Jonathan, that "so slow connection" is in fact one of the best speeds you can get in my country. Most times it is less than half of that. :( El mar., 3 nov. 2020 a las 18:14, Jonathan Zuck (< JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>) escribió:
Folks,
Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet:
So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less.
I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars.
Jonathan
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I fully admit to being spoiled! My POINT, however, is that I WAS able to view the YouTube stream! Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org> ________________________________ From: Ricardo Holmquist <rihogris@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2020 9:00:49 AM To: Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> Cc: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [technology taskforce] Youtube streaming Jonathan, that "so slow connection" is in fact one of the best speeds you can get in my country. Most times it is less than half of that. :( El mar., 3 nov. 2020 a las 18:14, Jonathan Zuck (<JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>>) escribió: Folks, Until today my advocacy for Youtube streaming was based largely on research and supposition but my wife and I are currently staying in an AirBnB in Tucson with incredibly slow internet: [cid:17593f7d8e84cff311] So slow, in fact, that I’m having difficulties maintaining Zoom calls which never happens for me. I’m blessed to live in areas in DC and LA where internet speeds are fast! Last night we attempted to participate in a virtual ritual for Dia de Los Muertos that took place over Zoom and we simply were unable to maintain the connection. Luckily, the event was simultaneously streamed to Youtube which we were able to watch just fine, albeit at a lower resolution than normal. I’ve heard a rumor that the meeting staff didn’t find much difference between the Zoom bandwidth consumption and the Youtube consumption but I’m here to tell you definitively, the difference can be staggering. It’s possible that video use on the plenaries are sharply limited so as to minimize bandwidth usage but that’s NOT the direction we want our meetings to go. We want MORE video participation in our virtual meetings, not less. I say this all to say that regardless of the reports we receive from the meetings team, we need to keep pushing for more widespread streaming to Youtube of both ICANN meetings and our capacity building webinars. Jonathan Jonathan Zuck | Executive Director | Innovators Network jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org<mailto:jzuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> | O 202.420.7497 | S jvzuck | [cid:17593f7d8e95b16b22] _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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Dev Anand Teelucksingh -
Jonathan Zuck -
Judith Hellerstein -
Maureen Hilyard -
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond -
Ricardo Holmquist