How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Dear Colleagues, in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful? Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards, Olivier
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ________________________________ From: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM To: ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions? Dear Colleagues, in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful? Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards, Olivier
Dear Friends and Colleagues, I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas. A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented. Daniel On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
Olivier _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario. The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table. I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish. - Recording breakout sessions, - Multimedia capabilities, - Bandwidth and interoperability standards, - equipment requirements and accessibility, - among a few. It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies. [image: photo] *Alfredo Calderon* eLearning Consultant calderon.alfredo@gmail.com http://aprendizajedistancia.blogspot.com | Skype: Alfredo_1212 <#SignatureSanitizer_SafeHtmlFilter_> | wiseintro.co/alfredocalderon <http://facebook.com/calderon.alfredo> <http://pr.linkedin.com/in/acalderon52> <http://twitter.com/acalderon52> <http://plus.google.com/u/0/103289446075444313762/posts> <http://www.pinterest.com/acalderon/> <http://www.slideshare.net/acalderon> <http://klout.com/#/acalderon52> <http://wiseintro.co/alfredocalderon> IMPORTANT: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. They are intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies thereof. Get your own email signature <https://www.wisestamp.com/signature-in-email?utm_source=promotion&utm_medium...> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
Olivier _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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Greetings to everyone On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons - It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum). - requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most. However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations. The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video) https://gather.town/features Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly. If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it. Best regards Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon ( calderon.alfredo@gmail.com) escribió:
Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.
The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
- Recording breakout sessions, - Multimedia capabilities, - Bandwidth and interoperability standards, - equipment requirements and accessibility, - among a few.
It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
Olivier _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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Dear Judith, this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards, Olivier On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Raitme,
Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
Best,
Judith
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On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
Greetings to everyone
On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum).
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.
However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing
They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations.
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video)
Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.
If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it.
Best regards Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp
El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (calderon.alfredo@gmail.com <mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com>) escribió:
Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.
The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
* Recording breakout sessions, * Multimedia capabilities, * Bandwidth and interoperability standards, * equipment requirements and accessibility, * among a few.
It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com <mailto:dndannang@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions? Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y <https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y>
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
Olivier _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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I am happy to get on the testing . On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 10:56, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Judith,
this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Raitme,
Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
Best,
Judith
_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
Greetings to everyone
On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum).
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.
However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing
They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations.
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video)
Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.
If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it.
Best regards
Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp
El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon ( calderon.alfredo@gmail.com) escribió:
Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.
The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
- Recording breakout sessions, - Multimedia capabilities, - Bandwidth and interoperability standards, - equipment requirements and accessibility, - among a few.
It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
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Yep, we can't make a good case to ICANN IT, if we don't really know the platform. ________________________________ From: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 4:06 AM To: Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> Cc: Technology Taskforce WG <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions? I am happy to get on the testing . On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 10:56, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote: Dear Judith, this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards, Olivier On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote: HI Raitme, Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com<http://www.jhellerstein.com> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/<http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote: Greetings to everyone On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons - It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum). - requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most. However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations. The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video) https://gather.town/features Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly. If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it. Best regards Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (calderon.alfredo@gmail.com<mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com>) escribió: Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario. The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table. I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish. * Recording breakout sessions, * Multimedia capabilities, * Bandwidth and interoperability standards, * equipment requirements and accessibility, * among a few. It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies. 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I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ________________________________ From: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM To: ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions? Dear Colleagues, in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful? Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? 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Hi Olivier, OK you make a good point. we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the January meeting. Best. Judith Sent from my iPad judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Judith,
this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Raitme,
Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
Best,
Judith
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On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
Greetings to everyone
On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum).
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.
However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing
They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations.
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video)
Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.
If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it.
Best regards
Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp
El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (calderon.alfredo@gmail.com) escribió:
Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.
The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish. Recording breakout sessions, Multimedia capabilities, Bandwidth and interoperability standards, equipment requirements and accessibility, among a few. It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! From: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM To: ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
Olivier _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one : Hopin https://hopin.to/ Here's the short 85 second teaser video https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4 I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and it had several features which to me would fit well with ICANN meetings : - Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared, resources - like the lobby of the ICANN meeting - main stage where the main sessions will take place - so things like welcome session and key plenary sessions, webinars - Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions with NPOC, GAC, SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout sessions ; each session can have its own chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ; you can have "special" sessions so only certain persons will see it and not publicised, so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could have their room to strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal staff coordination - networking - you can directly video chat with any person attending the event so when you go for a "coffee" break or want to follow up or meet someone, you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly (or set it up like Fellows will be paired with mentors or SMEs) - Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can network , you click on the booth and participate in the live session with the vendor (so you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have a on demand video played and a vendor chat with participants - all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but then also participate in so there's no separate chat channel ; Organisers and Hosts messages in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the staff responses faster - live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the room" Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser of the one I attended https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features : https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122 So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which I didn't see before. So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF -- Dev Anand On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Hi Olivier,
OK you make a good point. we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the January meeting.
Best. Judith
Sent from my iPad judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Judith,
this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Raitme,
Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
Best,
Judith
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On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
Greetings to everyone
On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum).
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.
However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing
They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations.
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video)
Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.
If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it.
Best regards
Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp
El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon ( calderon.alfredo@gmail.com) escribió:
Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.
The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
- Recording breakout sessions, - Multimedia capabilities, - Bandwidth and interoperability standards, - equipment requirements and accessibility, - among a few.
It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
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Hello all, Chris Buckridge from RIPE has mentioned that RIPE 81 used a software called "SpacialChat". In his words: And one final point - we’ve been using Spatialchat during the breaks (and for the “virtual dinner”) at RIPE 81 this week, and it’s been a huge success from my perspective (and what I’ve heard from others) - rock solid system, and a lovely chance to actually “run into” people and chat… it’s not the same as in-person, but it’s a definite step in that direction: https://spatial.chat It would therefore be good to add this to the shortlist of software that TTF could test out. Kindest regards, Olivier On 21/10/2020 19:24, Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society wrote:
Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one : Hopin https://hopin.to/ Here's the short 85 second teaser video https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4
I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and it had several features which to me would fit well with ICANN meetings :
- Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared, resources - like the lobby of the ICANN meeting - main stage where the main sessions will take place - so things like welcome session and key plenary sessions, webinars - Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions with NPOC, GAC, SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout sessions ; each session can have its own chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ; you can have "special" sessions so only certain persons will see it and not publicised, so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could have their room to strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal staff coordination - networking - you can directly video chat with any person attending the event so when you go for a "coffee" break or want to follow up or meet someone, you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly (or set it up like Fellows will be paired with mentors or SMEs) - Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can network , you click on the booth and participate in the live session with the vendor (so you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have a on demand video played and a vendor chat with participants - all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but then also participate in so there's no separate chat channel ; Organisers and Hosts messages in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the staff responses faster - live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the room"
Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser of the one I attended https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features : https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122
So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which I didn't see before.
So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF
-- Dev Anand
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
Hi Olivier,
OK you make a good point. we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the January meeting.
Best. Judith
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On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote:
Dear Judith,
this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Raitme,
Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
Best,
Judith
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On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
Greetings to everyone
On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum).
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.
However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing
They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations.
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video)
Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.
If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it.
Best regards Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp
El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (calderon.alfredo@gmail.com <mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com>) escribió:
Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.
The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
* Recording breakout sessions, * Multimedia capabilities, * Bandwidth and interoperability standards, * equipment requirements and accessibility, * among a few.
It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies.
photo
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com <mailto:dndannang@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions? Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y <https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y>
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
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Dear all SpatialChat seems to be good, but appears to have an upper limit of 50 participants. With kind regards, satish On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 6:15 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Hello all,
Chris Buckridge from RIPE has mentioned that RIPE 81 used a software called "SpacialChat". In his words:
And one final point - we’ve been using Spatialchat during the breaks (and for the “virtual dinner”) at RIPE 81 this week, and it’s been a huge success from my perspective (and what I’ve heard from others) - rock solid system, and a lovely chance to actually “run into” people and chat… it’s not the same as in-person, but it’s a definite step in that direction: https://spatial.chat
It would therefore be good to add this to the shortlist of software that TTF could test out. Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 21/10/2020 19:24, Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society wrote:
Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one : Hopin https://hopin.to/ Here's the short 85 second teaser video https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4
I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and it had several features which to me would fit well with ICANN meetings :
- Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared, resources - like the lobby of the ICANN meeting - main stage where the main sessions will take place - so things like welcome session and key plenary sessions, webinars - Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions with NPOC, GAC, SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout sessions ; each session can have its own chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ; you can have "special" sessions so only certain persons will see it and not publicised, so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could have their room to strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal staff coordination - networking - you can directly video chat with any person attending the event so when you go for a "coffee" break or want to follow up or meet someone, you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly (or set it up like Fellows will be paired with mentors or SMEs) - Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can network , you click on the booth and participate in the live session with the vendor (so you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have a on demand video played and a vendor chat with participants - all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but then also participate in so there's no separate chat channel ; Organisers and Hosts messages in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the staff responses faster - live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the room"
Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser of the one I attended https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features : https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122
So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which I didn't see before.
So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF
-- Dev Anand
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:
Hi Olivier,
OK you make a good point. we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the January meeting.
Best. Judith
Sent from my iPad judith@jhellerstein.com Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> wrote:
Dear Judith,
this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Raitme,
Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
Best,
Judith
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On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
Greetings to everyone
On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum).
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.
However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing
They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations.
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video)
Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.
If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it.
Best regards
Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp
El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon ( calderon.alfredo@gmail.com) escribió:
Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.
The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
- Recording breakout sessions, - Multimedia capabilities, - Bandwidth and interoperability standards, - equipment requirements and accessibility, - among a few.
It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck < JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?
Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
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Those are all the ones I've heard of. That said, I'd like to flex Zoom as well and get into breakout rooms for comparison and Google Jamboards as those are actually in our future Jonathan Zuck Executive Director Innovators Network Foundation www.InnovatorsNetwork.org<http://www.InnovatorsNetwork.org> ________________________________ From: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2020 1:05:59 PM To: ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Subject: Re: [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions? HI All, These are all great tools. I am in the process of scheduling the next TTF meeting and aiming for the week of December 7 . ICANN meeting, IGF and others have been taking up much of the time so that is why the long wait since our last meeting. So far, I have the tools of Spacial Chat. I have used this at the Brazilian IGF Party and it is very cool. Remo, Gather.town, Hopin.to Any other networking tools we should put on the list? Jonathan Zuck, any other tools to add to test them out ITI will have given their demos a week earlier so would love to have them on and then I would love to reschedule the Open data talk Also on the agenda is a talk about the YouTube Pilot and what ICANN learned from there and whether this is going to be expanded and continued from last time So It looks like a full agenda, but still interested in hearing your thoughts on what should be on the agenda for the December Call Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com<http://www.jhellerstein.com> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/<http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 10/30/2020 9:04 AM, Satish Babu wrote: Dear all SpatialChat seems to be good, but appears to have an upper limit of 50 participants. With kind regards, satish On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 6:15 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote: Hello all, Chris Buckridge from RIPE has mentioned that RIPE 81 used a software called "SpacialChat". In his words: And one final point - we’ve been using Spatialchat during the breaks (and for the “virtual dinner”) at RIPE 81 this week, and it’s been a huge success from my perspective (and what I’ve heard from others) - rock solid system, and a lovely chance to actually “run into” people and chat… it’s not the same as in-person, but it’s a definite step in that direction: https://spatial.chat It would therefore be good to add this to the shortlist of software that TTF could test out. Kindest regards, Olivier On 21/10/2020 19:24, Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society wrote: Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one : Hopin https://hopin.to/ Here's the short 85 second teaser video https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4 I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and it had several features which to me would fit well with ICANN meetings : - Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared, resources - like the lobby of the ICANN meeting - main stage where the main sessions will take place - so things like welcome session and key plenary sessions, webinars - Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions with NPOC, GAC, SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout sessions ; each session can have its own chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ; you can have "special" sessions so only certain persons will see it and not publicised, so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could have their room to strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal staff coordination - networking - you can directly video chat with any person attending the event so when you go for a "coffee" break or want to follow up or meet someone, you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly (or set it up like Fellows will be paired with mentors or SMEs) - Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can network , you click on the booth and participate in the live session with the vendor (so you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have a on demand video played and a vendor chat with participants - all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but then also participate in so there's no separate chat channel ; Organisers and Hosts messages in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the staff responses faster - live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the room" Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser of the one I attended https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features : https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122 So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which I didn't see before. So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF -- Dev Anand On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote: Hi Olivier, OK you make a good point. we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the January meeting. Best. Judith Sent from my iPad judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com> Skype ID:JudithHellerstein On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote: Dear Judith, this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards, Olivier On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote: HI Raitme, Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517 E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com<mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com<http://www.jhellerstein.com> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/<http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote: Greetings to everyone On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons - It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum). - requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most. However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations. The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video) https://gather.town/features Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly. If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it. Best regards Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (calderon.alfredo@gmail.com<mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com>) escribió: Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario. The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table. I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish. * Recording breakout sessions, * Multimedia capabilities, * Bandwidth and interoperability standards, * equipment requirements and accessibility, * among a few. 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I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ________________________________ From: ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com<mailto:ocl@gih.com>> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM To: ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> Subject: [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions? Dear Colleagues, in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful? Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? 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Dear Judith, this all sounds like enough material to cover several TTF calls. Perhaps putting together a schedule of testing, trying not to cram too many products in one test, starting with a priority list? I agree that Zoom might be a priority, as this is already in use in ICANN. Kindest regards, Olivier On 31/10/2020 06:40, Jonathan Zuck wrote:
Those are all the ones I've heard of. That said, I'd like to flex Zoom as well and get into breakout rooms for comparison and Google Jamboards as those are actually in our future
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HI All,
These are all great tools. I am in the process of scheduling the next TTF meeting and aiming for the week of December 7 . ICANN meeting, IGF and others have been taking up much of the time so that is why the long wait since our last meeting.
So far, I have the tools of Spacial Chat. I have used this at the Brazilian IGF Party and it is very cool.
Remo, Gather.town, Hopin.to Any other networking tools we should put on the list?
Jonathan Zuck, any other tools to add to test them out
ITI will have given their demos a week earlier so would love to have them on and then I would love to reschedule the Open data talk
Also on the agenda is a talk about the YouTube Pilot and what ICANN learned from there and whether this is going to be expanded and continued from last time
So It looks like a full agenda, but still interested in hearing your thoughts on what should be on the agenda for the December Call
Best,
Judith
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On 10/30/2020 9:04 AM, Satish Babu wrote:
Dear all
SpatialChat seems to be good, but appears to have an upper limit of 50 participants.
With kind regards,
satish
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 6:15 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote:
Hello all,
Chris Buckridge from RIPE has mentioned that RIPE 81 used a software called "SpacialChat". In his words:
And one final point - we’ve been using Spatialchat during the breaks (and for the “virtual dinner”) at RIPE 81 this week, and it’s been a huge success from my perspective (and what I’ve heard from others) - rock solid system, and a lovely chance to actually “run into” people and chat… it’s not the same as in-person, but it’s a definite step in that direction: https://spatial.chat
It would therefore be good to add this to the shortlist of software that TTF could test out. Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 21/10/2020 19:24, Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society wrote:
Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one : Hopin https://hopin.to/ Here's the short 85 second teaser video https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4
I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and it had several features which to me would fit well with ICANN meetings :
- Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared, resources - like the lobby of the ICANN meeting - main stage where the main sessions will take place - so things like welcome session and key plenary sessions, webinars - Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions with NPOC, GAC, SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout sessions ; each session can have its own chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ; you can have "special" sessions so only certain persons will see it and not publicised, so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could have their room to strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal staff coordination - networking - you can directly video chat with any person attending the event so when you go for a "coffee" break or want to follow up or meet someone, you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly (or set it up like Fellows will be paired with mentors or SMEs) - Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can network , you click on the booth and participate in the live session with the vendor (so you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have a on demand video played and a vendor chat with participants - all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but then also participate in so there's no separate chat channel ; Organisers and Hosts messages in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the staff responses faster - live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the room"
Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser of the one I attended https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features : https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122
So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which I didn't see before.
So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF
-- Dev Anand
On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
Hi Olivier,
OK you make a good point. we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN says. I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the January meeting.
Best. Judith
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On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> wrote:
Dear Judith,
this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test them out on future TTF meetings? Kindest regards,
Olivier
On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
HI Raitme,
Thanks so much for your comments. I have heard good things about REMO. However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved. We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within the system and hopefully we will succeed. We did succeed in getting this YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
Best,
Judith
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On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
Greetings to everyone
On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my experience in some virtual socialization environments
A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly inclusive for the following reasons
- It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the world where they do not even have half this minimum).
- requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration that is usually quite expensive for most.
However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in terms of the amount of time per participant connected. https://gather.town/pricing
They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create their own configurations.
The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings chat, audio, video)
Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people for free as long as they are used regularly.
If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter and test it.
Best regards Raitme Citterio 4FE7 B994 C1CF 2815@pgp
El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (calderon.alfredo@gmail.com <mailto:calderon.alfredo@gmail.com>) escribió:
Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/ <https://www.virbela.com/>, as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social networking scenario.
The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements, and user- friendly issues are on the table.
I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best? Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
* Recording breakout sessions, * Multimedia capabilities, * Bandwidth and interoperability standards, * equipment requirements and accessibility, * among a few.
It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some demos with these companies.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang@gmail.com <mailto:dndannang@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being tested and implemented.
Daniel
On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org <mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org>> wrote:
Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative tool! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> on behalf of Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl@gih.com <mailto:ocl@gih.com>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM *To:* ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org> <ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org <mailto:ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org>> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions? Dear Colleagues,
in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting. In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on https://remo.co/ A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table. I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others? Kindest regards,
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Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond -
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Satish Babu -
Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society