Its me and Ariel who was the co-admin and the latter who is now super busy. Invite coming soon. On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 1:05 PM, Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> wrote:
What you say makes sense, Dev.
By the way, who does one contact to get an invite for an account to https://icannatlarge.slack.com/?
Regards,
Justine Chew -----
On Mar 14, 2017 12:54 AM, "Dev Anand Teelucksingh" <devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
I've been thinking (and tinkering) about group chat.
I'm suggesting that the At-Large Community use the free tier Slack version that we have at https://icannatlarge.slack.com/
Key reasons why:
- Its very unlikely that ICANN will offer support (server resources, tech support) in the short term to deploy a self hosted solution like mattermost or Rocket.chat for ICANN At-Large Community. ICANN may be considering group chat solutions but given Slack export capabilities, it can be quite likely that - The challenge of a volunteer to deploy an open source solution for a large number of users using their resources without payment and support it to configure or fix things is too much and runs the risk of a volunteer unable to fulfil such a task after valiantly starting and the self hosted version goes down. - from an end user perspective, Slack works. It has the key features we want in group chat - threaded conversations, mobile apps, ability to create public channels, private rooms, and direct messages, search across channels. - the free tier offers 10 integrations - I've integrated Twitter, Skype, a translation tool, and an archive tool bot and was able to do this using the browser. Just like any other cloud service.
here's a screenshot of the Slack channels https://www.dropbox.com/s/xgka1gpxnhpwv24/ttf-icann58-slack-channels.png
The approach I've done is to create channels for interests and wgs that didn't neatly fit the interests - I've used the Key Policy issues of the At-Large Community https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1f81kugty0hulh/Policy-Issues-of-Interest-to-ICANN... (this screenshot was from the O&E Community Onboarding presentations https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/At-Large+Community+Onboarding)
- Slack content can be exported on a regular basis as a backup and also for importing in any future group chat solution that could be deployed/supported by ICANN - I've also installed and configured this service which creates a public archive of the Slack room - http://icannatlarge.slackarchive.io/ so we can make our conversations public facing We can link to the conversations in a channel, for eg http://icannatlarge.slackarchive.io/technologytaskforce or http://icannatlarge.slackarchive.io/idn/page-1 to a specific message. And in theory, I think it means that the search limit can be overcome.
Thoughts? The TTF session is Wednesday
Dev Anand
On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Chris Gift <chris.gift@icann.org> wrote:
Dev
Thanks for this. It’s great stuff. I would also look at visibility, archiving, and data access – all core to our transparency and accountability mandates.
Chris Gift
On 3/9/17, 6:45 AM, "ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Dev Anand Teelucksingh" <ttf-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of devtee@gmail.com> wrote:
;-) which is what happens when I try to have too many drafts onscreen.
As I was saying, I do need feedback on what this group wants regarding group chat applications
Some of my thoughts
- we use Skype for At-Large chat However there are disadvantages of using Skype - chat history is not preserved - a lot of At-Large discussions over the years have already been lost as persons upgrade their machines - conversations on various topics happens in one group so as multiple persons chime in at different times, potential conversations/insights on a particular topic/issue are lost in the one stream. - no ability to search messages across all skype groups - one has to remember what skype group a potential message was in to find it
QUESTION : Any other disadvantages to note?
- there are a myriad of group chat applications - Slack, Hipchat, Rocket.chat, Mattermost
- all share common features - creating public rooms or channels for groups and/or topics - creating private groups not visible to persons outside of such groups - mobile apps to get push notifications and to respond to messages via mobile more effectively - ability to search across all channels and rooms - can be administered by staff to create/archive/delete rooms/channels - staff/admins have more control to add/remove/invite persons - allows for extensions/integrations so that different services can be integrated (eg Twitter notifications to a channel, email to a channel)
QUESTION: Any other core features to note?
Based on these core features, Group chat offers significant benefits than Skype - potential for At-large community members to be added by Staff and added to channels of their interest - potential to reduce email overload - ability to find messages and conversations when they have time and new found interest to learn/participate more
QUESTION: Any other core benefits?
QUESTION - Are there any specific feature that makes a specific group chat stand out in terms of which one should be picked?
QUESTION - What do we want to recommend for ALAC/ICANN as next steps?
Looking forward to comments
Dev Anand
On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > Here's the slides for the TTF session at ICANN58 > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_present... > (editing link, no Google login required) > > Still have work on Policy tracking and how At-Large should use group > chat applications > > Whilst I put together the policy tracking slides, I do need feedback > on what this group wants > regarding group chat applications > > Some of my thoughts > > - there are a myriad of group chat applications - Slack, Hipchat, > Rocket.chat, Mattermost > - all share common features > - creating public rooms or channels for groups and/or topics > - creating private groups not visible to persons outside of such groups > - > > > - Group chat applications have signf > > Re: Group chat applications, _______________________________________________ ttf mailing list ttf@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ttf
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