June 2023 - lac-discuss-es

[lac-discuss-en] M3AAWG resources as input to LACRALO policy work
by apisanty＠gmail.com June 6, 2023

June 6, 2023

[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] En https://www.m3aawg.org/M3AAWG58_HighlightsandSampling encontrarás una breve descripción del trabajo que se presenta en la reunión del M3AAWG. Relevante para LACRALO: 1. la oportunidad de dimensionar cuán importante o no es el Abuso del DNS en el comunidad anti-abuso de mensajería/correo; 2. referencias a direcciones de correo electrónico internacionalizadas, relevantes para UA e IDN trabajar 3. referencia al DNS en el panorama de abuso, de manera más general. Sería muy saludable que cada ALS designara una persona técnicamente informada persona para hacer un seguimiento de la reunión y ayudar a retroalimentar ese conocimiento al comunidad LACRALO con enfoque en lo que es más relevante para la región. Este es verdaderamente una fuente excepcional. Es posible que alguno de vosotros o vuestros miembros estéis participando activamente y podría hacer aún más para ayudar al próximo ciclo de política con este información relevante y actualizada. Alejandro Pisanty -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Facultad de Química UNAM AV. Universidad 3000, 04510 México DF México +525541444475 Blog: http://pisanty.blogspot.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614 Twitter: http://twitter.com/apisanty ---->> Únase a ISOC México, http://www.isoc.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Announcement - LACRALO Secretariat elect- election 2023
by carlton.samuels＠gmail.com June 6, 2023

June 6, 2023

[[-- Sorry, this message could not be translated. --]] Dear All, Dev and details go hand in hand so I defer to his expertise and wholly support his analysis, conclusion and recommendations. While we are here, take notice that I shall seek amendment to the 2020 version of the LACRALO RoP, specifically to *Title IV Section 13* to strike out and remove the reference* "**there will always be an option to vote anonymously."* I have already given the reasons why the secret vote is untenable and cannot be applied in advancing the end user interests in LACRALO's processes pursuant to ICANN's names policy development and implementation. Ditto the anonymous vote. Qualification to vote requires unerring identification. Thus a qualified anonymous vote, in either the face to face or virtual mode is, well, counterintuitive. There is also an internal inconsistency in the logic of Title IV. Anonymity is a mortal blow to the transparency principle to which the clause is subscribed. Carlton Samuels The University of the West Indies ============================== *Carlton A Samuels* *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround* ============================= On Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 14:17, Dev Anand Teelucksingh <devtee(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > > I also concur with Carlton's analysis. However the Tally vote summary at > https://tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc3 highlights very serious > issues in how the vote was done. > > Instead of the expected 3 vote options, there were 6 vote options, with 3 > vote options in English and 3 vote options duplicated in Spanish. > > The vote summary showed that several people voted for two options while > some (like me) voted for only one option. > > Having 6 vote options with 3 duplicate options raises several concerns : > - Because some persons voted twice, the summary totals provided by Tally > are misleading because these are not unique count totals. > - If someone had voted for two completely different options (e.g. for a > candidate and then an abstain option or for two different candidates), how > would this be handled? > - More critically, were the vote weights calculated correctly if a person > only voted one option or if a person voted two options ? > > Having multiple duplicate options only serves to undermine the confidence > of the vote and underscores the need to have open votes so that voting is > transparent and auditable. > > Any vote should only have unique, distinct options and never duplicates. > > Furthermore, Tally was either configured to allow (or Tally is unable to > prevent) persons to vote multiple times. > There is mention in the summary that such votes are noted as duplicated > (and hopefully discarded) but multiple votes using the same ID should not > be allowed at all. > > Kind Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 10:38 AM <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> wrote: > >> [[-- Sorry, this message could not be translated. --]] >> >> Coincido con Carlton, las elecciones deben de ser a mano alzada, como si >> fuese una votación en una asamblea >> Saludos cordiales >> >> *Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN >> <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de >> Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA >> <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet >> de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto >> <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas >> <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá >> podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan >> nuestra * >> >> * conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano* >> >> >> >> El sáb, 27 may 2023 a las 14:58, <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> escribió: >> >> > [[-- Sorry, this message could not be translated. --]] >> > >> > Dear Staff: >> > >> > A secret ballot is a change in the procedure for LACRALO. There cannot >> be >> > a secret vote in LACRALO. >> > >> > The central idea is for decision by consensus. And every other thing >> > follows from this principle. >> > >> > A vote event is considered a general assembly. In a face-to-face >> assembly, >> > the entire membership will see who is nominated and who votes. >> > >> > It is also the right of every member to directly audit any vote. This >> is >> > especially significant in a process with weighted votes. >> > >> > So with respect, LACLARO may not have a secret ballot or vote. >> > >> > Best, >> > Carlton >> > ============================== >> > *Carlton A Samuels* >> > >> > *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & >> > Turnaround* >> > ============================= >> > >> > >> > On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 17:01, Staff @ AtLarge <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > *EN: * >> > > >> > > Dear all, >> > > >> > > The Secretary Elect vote 2023 has closed. The results of the vote are >> > > quorate, having participated in the vote more than 50% of LACRALO ALS >> > (46 >> > > ALS). >> > > >> > > On behalf of Augusto Ho, LACRALO's Chair and Claire Craig, LACRALO >> > > Secretariat, we are pleased to announce the following candidate has >> been >> > > elected by vote in 2023: >> > > >> > > *Sandra Rodriguez* , LACRALO Secretariat Elect (Term: AGM 2023 - AGM >> > > 2025; designated by elections ) >> > > >> > > *2023 LACRALO Secretariat Elect - Results * >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *Election* >> > > >> > > *Options * >> > > >> > > *Sum of weighted votes * >> > > >> > > *% of weighted Votes* >> > > >> > > *number of voters* >> > > >> > > *% of voters * >> > > >> > > 1 >> > > >> > > Sandra Rodriguez >> > > >> > > 46.012 >> > > >> > > 68.82% >> > > >> > > 33 >> > > >> > > 71.74% >> > > >> > > 2 >> > > >> > > Jan Alvarado >> > > >> > > 21.164 >> > > >> > > 30.28% >> > > >> > > 10 >> > > >> > > 21.74% >> > > >> > > 3 >> > > >> > > Abstain >> > > >> > > 2.727 >> > > >> > > 3.90% >> > > >> > > 3 >> > > >> > > 6.52% >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *To access the poll data see : >> > > https://tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc3 [tally.icann.org >> ] >> > > < >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc… >> > >* >> > > >> > > *Participants in LACRALO Elections ALS 2023 : LACRALO Voting weights >> 2023 >> > > /LACRALO Voto ponderado 2023 >> > > <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=240617564>* >> > > >> > > *Explanation: * >> > > >> > > In these votes, electorates can only choose one candidate, or to >> abstain. >> > > The vote electorate is anonymous. >> > > >> > > All results have been posted on the wiki page 2023 LACRALO Regional >> > > Selections >> > > < >> > >> https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2023+LACRALO+Regional+Selections >> > > >> > > >> > > At-Large staff would like to congratulate Sandra Rodriguez ! >> > > >> > > Kind Regards, >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > At-Large Staff >> > > >> > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community >> > > >> > > Website: atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org] >> > > < >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/atlarge.icann.org/__;!!PtGJab4!tDPXhqVOR… >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Facebook: facebook.com/icann [facebook.com] >> > > < >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/icannatlarge__;!!PtGJab… >> > >atlarge >> > > [facebook.com] >> > > < >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/icannatlarge__;!!PtGJab… >> > > >> > > >> > > Twitter: @ [twitter.com] >> > > < >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge__;!!PtGJab4!tDP… >> > >ICANNAtLarge >> > > [twitter.com] >> > > < >> > >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge__;!!PtGJab4!tDP… >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > lac-discuss-en mailing list >> > > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of >> your >> > > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >> accordance >> > > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) >> and >> > > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You >> > can >> > > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or >> > > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery >> or >> > > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > lac-discuss-es mailing list >> > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es >> > >> > http://www.lacralo.org >> > _______________________________________________ >> > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your >> > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list >> accordance >> > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) >> and >> > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You >> can >> > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or >> > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or >> > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> _______________________________________________ >> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your >> personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance >> with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and >> the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You >> can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or >> configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or >> disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] [Ext] LACRALO email Translation tool- noted
by silvia.vivanco＠icann.org June 5, 2023

June 5, 2023

[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] Estimado Dev, Hemos elevado un ticket con soporte técnico para investigar estos errores. ¡Muchas gracias por marcar! Atentamente Silvia De: Dev Teelucksingh<devtee(a)gmail.com> Fecha: lunes 5 de junio de 2023 a las 16:52 Para: Personal general<staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> , LAC-Discutir-es<lac-discuss-en(a)icann.org> Asunto: [Ext] Herramienta de traducción de correo electrónico de LACRALO Estimado personal, todos He detectado que parece haber más errores en la herramienta de traducción de correo electrónico, lo que hace que los correos electrónicos no se traduzcan de una lista a otra. Confío en que el personal de TI de la ICANN sea consciente de esto. Saludos, Dev Anand Teelucksingh

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[lac-discuss-en] LACRALO email Translation tool
by devtee＠gmail.com June 5, 2023

June 5, 2023

[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] Estimado personal, todos He detectado que parece haber más errores en el correo electrónico. herramienta de traducción que hace que los correos electrónicos no se traduzcan de una lista a la otra lista de correo. Confío en que el personal de TI de la ICANN sea consciente de esto. Saludos, Dev Anand Teelucksingh

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
by apisan＠unam.mx June 5, 2023

June 5, 2023

[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] Laura, gracias por la declaración Varios de nosotros hemos propuesto con insistencia que todas las ALS deben ser reacreditadas desde cero. Es la única forma de avanzar. Los criterios para ello ya se han puesto sobre la mesa. Nos ahorrará mucha vergüenza en el futuro. Con respecto a la financiación de CROP, hay una solicitud más que ya hemos hecho y que no ha sido cumplida. Dado que el liderazgo de LACRALO filtrará las propuestas, debe presentar una propuesta de criterios, procesos y plazos para dicha aprobación, y hacer que se vote. Con respecto a la propuesta de Dev de enfocarse en extender la membresía de ALS a países que actualmente no tienen ALS, sí, pero continúa reforzando la tendencia para evitar dividir el monopolio indiscutible que cada ALS actual disfruta en países pequeños cuando se trata de votación ponderada. Alejandro Pisanty ________________________________ De: lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> en nombre de Laura Margolis <margolisl(a)gmail.com> Enviado: lunes, 5 de junio de 2023 11:43 a. m. Para: Dev Anand Teelucksingh CC: LAC-Discuss-en Asunto: Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement Dear Dev, Excellent observations and suggestions. Of course our region should reach out to all the countries where there is still no presence, as a priority. I guess that will be part of the O&E strategy. I agree with your view regarding CROP fundings. Also I think we should also work to discredit all ALS which are not more engaged with ICANN for different reasons, so we can have an updated and real list of LACRALO's ALS. I understand Lilian De Luque is our regional's liaison with O&E, but do we have a group working on this? If not, how is our region going to take action on the plan? Best, Laura Margolis El lun, 5 jun 2023 a las 12:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh (<devtee(a)gmail.com<mailto:devtee@gmail.com>>) escribió: Dear Claire, According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST) there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large Structures. These are : Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) Bahamas (.bs) Belize (.bz) Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) Grenada (.gd) Guatemala (.gt) Saint Barthélemy (.bl) Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) Republic of Suriname (.sr) Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in these 12 countries to join At-Large. Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be used for such outreach. However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application process: https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+P… 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot" This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event. Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig(a)gmail.com<mailto:claireccraig@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. Claire C. Craig LACRALO Secretariat _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ lac-discuss-en mailing list lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:lac-discuss-en@atlarge-lists.icann.org> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Laura Margolis margolisl(a)gmail.com<mailto:margolisl@gmail.com> Office: ++598 27066044 Mobile / Whatsapp ++598 99690992 skype: lauri.margolis

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] Announcement - LACRALO Secretariat elect- election 2023
by devtee＠gmail.com June 5, 2023

June 5, 2023

[[-- Sorry, this message could not be translated. --]] Dear All, I also concur with Carlton's analysis. However the Tally vote summary at https://tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc3 highlights very serious issues in how the vote was done. Instead of the expected 3 vote options, there were 6 vote options, with 3 vote options in English and 3 vote options duplicated in Spanish. The vote summary showed that several people voted for two options while some (like me) voted for only one option. Having 6 vote options with 3 duplicate options raises several concerns : - Because some persons voted twice, the summary totals provided by Tally are misleading because these are not unique count totals. - If someone had voted for two completely different options (e.g. for a candidate and then an abstain option or for two different candidates), how would this be handled? - More critically, were the vote weights calculated correctly if a person only voted one option or if a person voted two options ? Having multiple duplicate options only serves to undermine the confidence of the vote and underscores the need to have open votes so that voting is transparent and auditable. Any vote should only have unique, distinct options and never duplicates. Furthermore, Tally was either configured to allow (or Tally is unable to prevent) persons to vote multiple times. There is mention in the summary that such votes are noted as duplicated (and hopefully discarded) but multiple votes using the same ID should not be allowed at all. Kind Regards, Dev Anand Teelucksingh Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt On Thu, Jun 1, 2023 at 10:38 AM <presidencia(a)internauta.org.ar> wrote: > [[-- Sorry, this message could not be translated. --]] > > Coincido con Carlton, las elecciones deben de ser a mano alzada, como si > fuese una votación en una asamblea > Saludos cordiales > > *Sergio Salinas Porto**Presidente Internauta Argentina - LACRALO/ICANN > <https://atlarge.icann.org/ralos/lacralo>**Asociación Argentina de > Usuarios de Internet <http://www.internauta.org.ar/>/FeTIA > <http://www.fetia.org.ar/>**FUILAC- Federación de Usuarios de Internet > de LAC <https://fuilac.org>**facebook: salinasporto > <http://www.facebook.com/salinasporto> **twitter: sergiosalinas > <http://twitter.com/sergiosalinas>**Mobi:+54 9 223 5 215819**"Ojalá > podamos ser desobedientes, cada vez que recibimos órdenes que humillan > nuestra * > > * conciencia o violan nuestro sentido común" Eduardo Galeano* > > > > El sáb, 27 may 2023 a las 14:58, <carlton.samuels(a)gmail.com> escribió: > > > [[-- Sorry, this message could not be translated. --]] > > > > Dear Staff: > > > > A secret ballot is a change in the procedure for LACRALO. There cannot > be > > a secret vote in LACRALO. > > > > The central idea is for decision by consensus. And every other thing > > follows from this principle. > > > > A vote event is considered a general assembly. In a face-to-face > assembly, > > the entire membership will see who is nominated and who votes. > > > > It is also the right of every member to directly audit any vote. This is > > especially significant in a process with weighted votes. > > > > So with respect, LACLARO may not have a secret ballot or vote. > > > > Best, > > Carlton > > ============================== > > *Carlton A Samuels* > > > > *Mobile: 876-818-1799Strategy, Process, Governance, Assessment & > > Turnaround* > > ============================= > > > > > > On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 17:01, Staff @ AtLarge <staff(a)atlarge.icann.org> > > wrote: > > > > > *EN: * > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > The Secretary Elect vote 2023 has closed. The results of the vote are > > > quorate, having participated in the vote more than 50% of LACRALO ALS > > (46 > > > ALS). > > > > > > On behalf of Augusto Ho, LACRALO's Chair and Claire Craig, LACRALO > > > Secretariat, we are pleased to announce the following candidate has > been > > > elected by vote in 2023: > > > > > > *Sandra Rodriguez* , LACRALO Secretariat Elect (Term: AGM 2023 - AGM > > > 2025; designated by elections ) > > > > > > *2023 LACRALO Secretariat Elect - Results * > > > > > > > > > > > > *Election* > > > > > > *Options * > > > > > > *Sum of weighted votes * > > > > > > *% of weighted Votes* > > > > > > *number of voters* > > > > > > *% of voters * > > > > > > 1 > > > > > > Sandra Rodriguez > > > > > > 46.012 > > > > > > 68.82% > > > > > > 33 > > > > > > 71.74% > > > > > > 2 > > > > > > Jan Alvarado > > > > > > 21.164 > > > > > > 30.28% > > > > > > 10 > > > > > > 21.74% > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > Abstain > > > > > > 2.727 > > > > > > 3.90% > > > > > > 3 > > > > > > 6.52% > > > > > > > > > > > > *To access the poll data see : > > > https://tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc3 [tally.icann.org] > > > < > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/tally.icann.org/cgi/results?e=be9dd5eafc… > > >* > > > > > > *Participants in LACRALO Elections ALS 2023 : LACRALO Voting weights > 2023 > > > /LACRALO Voto ponderado 2023 > > > <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=240617564>* > > > > > > *Explanation: * > > > > > > In these votes, electorates can only choose one candidate, or to > abstain. > > > The vote electorate is anonymous. > > > > > > All results have been posted on the wiki page 2023 LACRALO Regional > > > Selections > > > < > > > https://community.icann.org/display/atlarge/2023+LACRALO+Regional+Selections > > > > > > > > > At-Large staff would like to congratulate Sandra Rodriguez ! > > > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > At-Large Staff > > > > > > ICANN Policy Staff in support of the At-Large Community > > > > > > Website: atlarge.icann.org [atlarge.icann.org] > > > < > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/atlarge.icann.org/__;!!PtGJab4!tDPXhqVOR… > > > > > > > > > > > > Facebook: facebook.com/icann [facebook.com] > > > < > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/icannatlarge__;!!PtGJab… > > >atlarge > > > [facebook.com] > > > < > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.facebook.com/icannatlarge__;!!PtGJab… > > > > > > > > > Twitter: @ [twitter.com] > > > < > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge__;!!PtGJab4!tDP… > > >ICANNAtLarge > > > [twitter.com] > > > < > > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/twitter.com/ICANNAtLarge__;!!PtGJab4!tDP… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > lac-discuss-en mailing list > > > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > > > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list > accordance > > > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) > and > > > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You > > can > > > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > > > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery > or > > > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > lac-discuss-es mailing list > > lac-discuss-es(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-es > > > > http://www.lacralo.org > > _______________________________________________ > > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You > can > > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
by margolisl＠gmail.com June 5, 2023

June 5, 2023

[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] Estimado Dev, Excelentes observaciones y sugerencias. Por supuesto que nuestra región debe llegar a todos los países donde hay Todavía no hay presencia, como prioridad. Supongo que eso será parte del O&E. estrategia. Estoy de acuerdo con su punto de vista sobre los fondos de CROP. También creo que también deberíamos trabajar para desacreditar a todas las ALS que no son más comprometido con la ICANN por diferentes razones, para que podamos tener una información actualizada y lista real de ALS de LACRALO. Entiendo que Lilian De Luque es el enlace de nuestra regional con O&E, pero ¿podemos ¿Tienes un grupo trabajando en esto? Si no, ¿cómo va a tomar nuestra región acción sobre el plan? Mejor, Laura Margólis El lun, 5 jun 2023 a las 12:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh (<devtee(a)gmail.com> ) escribió: > Dear Claire, > > According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST) > there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large > Structures. These are : > > Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) > Bahamas (.bs) > Belize (.bz) > Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) > The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) > Grenada (.gd) > Guatemala (.gt) > Saint Barthélemy (.bl) > Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) > Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) > Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) > Republic of Suriname (.sr) > > Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in > these 12 countries to join At-Large. > > Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be > used for such outreach. > > However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says > "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO > leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the > opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. > 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. > 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application > process: > https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+P… > 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP > opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on > the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot" > > This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a > successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit > and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event. > > Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the > LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the > subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the > subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO. > > > Kind Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear All >> Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was >> discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. >> >> Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be >> approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be >> considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, >> >> I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. >> >> Claire C. Craig >> LACRALO Secretariat >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> _______________________________________________ >> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your >> personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance >> with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and >> the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You >> can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or >> configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or >> disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > > _______________________________________________ > lac-discuss-en mailing list > lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org > https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your > personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance > with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and > the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can > visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or > configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or > disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Laura Margólis margolisl(a)gmail.com Oficina: ++598 27066044 Móvil / Whatsapp ++598 99690992 skype: lauri.margolis

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
by claireccraig＠gmail.com June 5, 2023

June 5, 2023

[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] Estimado desarrollador Gracias por sus comentarios muy prácticos y proactivos. Estos serán revisado e incorporado en el documento si es posible y recirculado. CCC El lunes 5 de junio de 2023 a las 11:53, Dev Anand Teelucksingh<devtee(a)gmail.com> escribió: > Dear Claire, > > According to the ICANN Stakeholder Tool (https://bitly.com/ICANNST) > there are 12 countries in the LAC region that do not have At-Large > Structures. These are : > > Antigua and Barbuda (.ag) > Bahamas (.bs) > Belize (.bz) > Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba (.bq) > The Commonwealth of Dominica (.dm) > Grenada (.gd) > Guatemala (.gt) > Saint Barthélemy (.bl) > Saint Kitts and Nevis (.kn) > Saint Martin (French part) (.mf) > Sint Maarten (Dutch part) (.sx) > Republic of Suriname (.sr) > > Outreach should therefore be targeted to get suitable organisations in > these 12 countries to join At-Large. > > Initiatives such as Community Regional Outreach Program (CROP) could be > used for such outreach. > > However, the proposed CROP strategy in the draft document says > "1. Whenever a new outreach opportunity becomes available, the LACRALO > leadership will send an email to the community, informing them about the > opportunity, and inviting members to apply to the CROP. > 2. All LACRALO members are eligible to apply for the CROP program. > 3. To apply for a CROP opportunity, members should follow the application > process: > https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+P… > 4, If there are more than two LACRALO members applying for the same CROP > opportunity, the LACRALO leadership will invite the community to vote on > the selection of the candidate who will be granted the CROP slot" > > This proposed strategy can unnecessarily create delays in filing a > successful CROP application to an outreach event given the need to submit > and get approved a CROP application 6-8 weeks before the outreach event. > > Given that LACRALO leadership will advertise a CROP opportunity, the > LACRALO leadership should first reach out to ALS members that are in the > subregion of the CROP outreach event to attend. Only if persons from the > subregion are not able to attend, then it goes out to the wider LACRALO. > > > Kind Regards, > > Dev Anand Teelucksingh > Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society at https://ttcs.tt > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 1:33 PM Claire Craig <claireccraig(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear All >> Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was >> discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. >> >> Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be >> approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be >> considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, >> >> I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. >> >> Claire C. Craig >> LACRALO Secretariat >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lac-discuss-en mailing list >> lac-discuss-en(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org >> https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/lac-discuss-en >> >> _______________________________________________ >> By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your >> personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance >> with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and >> the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You >> can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or >> configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or >> disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > >

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
by claireccraig＠gmail.com June 5, 2023

June 5, 2023

[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] Hola Dr. Pisanty Gracias por tus comentarios. Espero comentarios como usted ha sugerido. Cualquier comentario recibido será incorporado y circulado, antes de que el documento sea enviado hacia adelante. Saludos El lun 5 jun 2023 a las 11:07 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch<apisan(a)unam.mx> escribió: > Claire, > > > no, no, no, this should be pretty clear. You sent out a draft for > comments, got comments. Now it is incumbent on the drafting team to absorb > all comments and send a new draft, with at least 24 hours advance to the > deadline of June 7. This is a basic process issue which should merit no > further discussion. If you as Secretary are not involved the only step left > is to pass it on to those who were, and follow up requiring a new version > on time and circulating it. > > > It is not only my observations that need to be absorbed. The statement > that the plan may be overly ambitious should also generate a cycle of > review, so that the drafters can wirte what the goals are, what happens if > not all are met, so also if not all resources (people, money, availability > of timeslots for meetings, admission into meetings, etc.) come together, > the community knows what the fallback plan is. This is basic planning and > again I don't see why it would merit further discussion. > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > ------------------------------ > *De:* Claire C. Craig <claireccraig(a)gmail.com> > *Enviado:* lunes, 5 de junio de 2023 05:46 a. m. > *Para:* Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch > *CC:* LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares > *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement > > Dear Dr. Pisanty > Thanks for those observations. Your feedback is duly noted and well > articulated. > > As such, please fill in the gaps in the document as you identified or send > me your contribution to the important LACRALO Strategy with the appropriate > language based on your feedback as soon as possible, so that the document > can be updated and recirculated. > > Thanks for taking the time to review, and I look forward to receiving your > valuable and timely input. > > CCC > > On 4 Jun 2023, at 11:17 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan(a)unam.mx> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > some observations: > > > > 1. The plan as presented is not framed within either LACRALO's > Strategic Plan for the same period nor (at least not explicitly) to any > other ICANN plans, whether At Large or ICANN-org. This should be remedied > ASAP for a second round of comments. > 2. There are no quantitative, measurable goals (remember the acronym > SMART); this should be remedied by the drafting party. > 3. The plan does not clearly link actions to the "Policy First" Agenda > agreed in the General Assembly of 2023 as well as in the process of > 2014-2016. Every action by LACRALO has to be explained, measured, and > assessed according to its clear causal linkage to policy production in > formal PDPs. Which leads to the next: > 4. There is no clear Theory of Change between the proposed actions and > their effects for the above mentioned. > 5. One goal that must be included is a quantitative goal of bringing > in new organizations as ALSs. There is a perverse incentive for each > country's presently existing ALS to avoid recruiting new organizations as > ALS, as this would divide the weight of their votes by half. It will be > argued that this is particularly difficult to achieve in countries with > small populations, to the disadvantage of those with a rich, thriving > technical and social community around the Internet; still the goal must be > to add at least one ALS per country in the following 12 months. > 6. There is no measure of transparency and accountability for the > participants, as to actually taking up the activity agreed, assessing its > quality, relevance, and impact with the intended audience, and feedback > from said audience. This reinforces the impression that LACRALO refuses any > measure of accountability. So be it as long as it is thought that LACRALO > is an isolated entity. However, this reflects badly on the perception of > the At-Large in general, and of ICANN in a broader sense, and even more > impactfully, on the multistakeholder processes in general. In the year that > the GDC and related UN SG and AG processes are being launced LACRALO would > be doing a great disservice to the Internet governance community by not > being scrupulously disciplined in this respect. So, the plan must include > such measures as well in the next draft to be circulated with time enough > for comments before the June 7 deadline. > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > ------------------------------ > *De:* lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> en > nombre de Claire Craig <claireccraig(a)gmail.com> > *Enviado:* viernes, 2 de junio de 2023 11:31 a. m. > *Para:* LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement > > Dear All > Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was > discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. > > Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be > approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be > considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, > > I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. > > Claire C. Craig > LACRALO Secretariat > > >

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Re: [lac-discuss-es] [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement
by claireccraig＠gmail.com June 5, 2023

June 5, 2023

[[-- Translated text (en -> es) --]] Hola Dr. Pisanty Gracias por tus comentarios. Espero comentarios como usted ha sugerido. Cualquier comentario recibido será incorporado y circulado, antes de que el documento sea enviado hacia adelante. Saludos El lun 5 jun 2023 a las 11:07 Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch<apisan(a)unam.mx> escribió: > Claire, > > > no, no, no, this should be pretty clear. You sent out a draft for > comments, got comments. Now it is incumbent on the drafting team to absorb > all comments and send a new draft, with at least 24 hours advance to the > deadline of June 7. This is a basic process issue which should merit no > further discussion. If you as Secretary are not involved the only step left > is to pass it on to those who were, and follow up requiring a new version > on time and circulating it. > > > It is not only my observations that need to be absorbed. The statement > that the plan may be overly ambitious should also generate a cycle of > review, so that the drafters can wirte what the goals are, what happens if > not all are met, so also if not all resources (people, money, availability > of timeslots for meetings, admission into meetings, etc.) come together, > the community knows what the fallback plan is. This is basic planning and > again I don't see why it would merit further discussion. > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > ------------------------------ > *De:* Claire C. Craig <claireccraig(a)gmail.com> > *Enviado:* lunes, 5 de junio de 2023 05:46 a. m. > *Para:* Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch > *CC:* LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares > *Asunto:* Re: [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement > > Dear Dr. Pisanty > Thanks for those observations. Your feedback is duly noted and well > articulated. > > As such, please fill in the gaps in the document as you identified or send > me your contribution to the important LACRALO Strategy with the appropriate > language based on your feedback as soon as possible, so that the document > can be updated and recirculated. > > Thanks for taking the time to review, and I look forward to receiving your > valuable and timely input. > > CCC > > On 4 Jun 2023, at 11:17 PM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <apisan(a)unam.mx> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > some observations: > > > > 1. The plan as presented is not framed within either LACRALO's > Strategic Plan for the same period nor (at least not explicitly) to any > other ICANN plans, whether At Large or ICANN-org. This should be remedied > ASAP for a second round of comments. > 2. There are no quantitative, measurable goals (remember the acronym > SMART); this should be remedied by the drafting party. > 3. The plan does not clearly link actions to the "Policy First" Agenda > agreed in the General Assembly of 2023 as well as in the process of > 2014-2016. Every action by LACRALO has to be explained, measured, and > assessed according to its clear causal linkage to policy production in > formal PDPs. Which leads to the next: > 4. There is no clear Theory of Change between the proposed actions and > their effects for the above mentioned. > 5. One goal that must be included is a quantitative goal of bringing > in new organizations as ALSs. There is a perverse incentive for each > country's presently existing ALS to avoid recruiting new organizations as > ALS, as this would divide the weight of their votes by half. It will be > argued that this is particularly difficult to achieve in countries with > small populations, to the disadvantage of those with a rich, thriving > technical and social community around the Internet; still the goal must be > to add at least one ALS per country in the following 12 months. > 6. There is no measure of transparency and accountability for the > participants, as to actually taking up the activity agreed, assessing its > quality, relevance, and impact with the intended audience, and feedback > from said audience. This reinforces the impression that LACRALO refuses any > measure of accountability. So be it as long as it is thought that LACRALO > is an isolated entity. However, this reflects badly on the perception of > the At-Large in general, and of ICANN in a broader sense, and even more > impactfully, on the multistakeholder processes in general. In the year that > the GDC and related UN SG and AG processes are being launced LACRALO would > be doing a great disservice to the Internet governance community by not > being scrupulously disciplined in this respect. So, the plan must include > such measures as well in the next draft to be circulated with time enough > for comments before the June 7 deadline. > > > Alejandro Pisanty > > > > ------------------------------ > *De:* lac-discuss-en <lac-discuss-en-bounces(a)atlarge-lists.icann.org> en > nombre de Claire Craig <claireccraig(a)gmail.com> > *Enviado:* viernes, 2 de junio de 2023 11:31 a. m. > *Para:* LAC-Discuss-en; Rodrigo de la Parra; Rodrigo Saucedo Linares > *Asunto:* [lac-discuss-en] LAC Strategy for Outreach and Engagement > > Dear All > Please see attached the LACRALO Outreach and Engagement Plan which was > discussed at the last LACRALO Monthly Call. > > Please provide your comments by Wednesday 7 June, 2023 so that it can be > approved for FY 24. If not comments are received, the plan would be > considered as final and forwarded to the ICANN org staff, > > I look forward to your feedback as soon as possible. > > Claire C. Craig > LACRALO Secretariat > > >

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