Question for UASG Chair candidates: what are strategic obstacles blocking UA?
Dear Jim and all UASG Community Members Jim, thank you for your email and for putting this question. Since you already mentioned that I am committed to Universal Acceptance and have a track record of working diligently to attain that objective, I will not place my words here to share more on this to you and the rest of the community about this; rather, I will respond directly to your question. Because identifying and addressing difficulties and hurdles requires work and coordination among many stakeholder groups, the response below is entirely in my individual capacity. According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are: Feeling of Urgency : I believe we need to "generate a sense of urgency," which means motivating stakeholders to take appropriate independent action. UASG and ICANN's activities should be educational and proactive, advocating for the necessary activity to attain universal acceptance. The primary goal of ICANN will be to connect those who have impediments with those who can eliminate them, an action on this has already been initiated, and we will soon see some development on it. Clear Goal : The requirement of the hour is that domain names in a TLD be used in applications independent of the written script, length, or newness of the TLD. Name registration must function, protocols must function, and services/applications affecting the user must function; function also in the sense that domain names and the identifiers constructed on them are usable in administratively permissible ways. This goal includes the usefulness of Internationalised email addresses, an action on this has already been initiated, and if you will see that today all IDN domains which we from NIXI provides are completely usable from day one as we are providing email with every IDN domain name and also other services required around that. Not just that we also have a dedicated UA desk to listen the concerns form the registrants and try to provide them support. UA's demand-side characteristics: Universal Acceptance is a crucial technical prerequisite for an Internet that is truly multilingual and inclusive. It is also essential for realising the full potential of Internationalized Domain Names, Email Address Internationalization, and new generic Top-Level Domains. Application developers and service providers are delaying making their systems UA-ready due to the demand-side components of UA, which must be addressed. Governments and the technical community will be essential in creating demand. To get a sense of the importance of Universal Acceptance, consider India. It has one of the fastest growing internet user populations on the planet and provides an illuminating case study on adoptions of universal acceptance. Since 2014 NIXI is managing 22 IDNs of India and I am CEO of NIXI. I am pleased to share with you that as per the directives of government a committee was formed under my chairmanship here in India to prepare an India Roadmap on Universal Acceptance and Multilingual Internet, and that the Phase 1 report of that committee is now being under implementation in India. [ https://registry.in/system/files/ua-and-multilingual-internet-india.pdf | https://registry.in/system/files/ua-and-multilingual-internet-india.pdf ] To summarise, I am confident that we will all recognise that, aside from the founding visionaries of the UASG, the current leadership of the UASG has carried forward the UA work from their successors in a significant way in the last four years, we have significant participation and contributions from the community in the universal acceptance steering group by nearly 700 volunteers, significant technological development has occurred in recent years, and there is still much to be done to achieve universal acceptance. Even the present leadership team came up with the idea for UA Day, which will be celebrated for the first time on March 28, 2023. Current UASG leadership has done a wonderful work to bring all the stakeholders together to celebrate UA day including all SO/AC of ICANN. With my experience as Communication Chair of UASG , we were successful to raise the awareness of importance that's why 42 countries are celebrating UA day on 28th March. We must continue the good work started by Ram Mohan & team and wings provided by Dr. Ajay Data and team. With kind regards, Anil Kumar Jain
Jim, thank you for asking this question from Anil and Satish, who offered their names as suitable candidates to be the UASG's next chair. Anil, I must say that your response is outstanding. It was well stated and explained, and it gives the impression that you are a very seasoned expert. The India Roadmap on Universal Acceptance and Multilingual Internet report that you shared in your response is truly remarkable, and it's an excellent document that can be shared globally, especially in GAG, so that many nations can follow suit or adopt. Absolutely yes, it’s our clear expectations from new leadership that must continue the good work started by Ram Mohan & team and wings provided by Dr. Ajay Data and team. You have won my support thanks to your wonderful answer, which firmly convinced me to do so. 😊 Best wishes Maxim On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 12:56, Anil Jain via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Jim and all UASG Community Members
Jim, thank you for your email and for putting this question.
Since you already mentioned that I am committed to Universal Acceptance and have a track record of working diligently to attain that objective, I will not place my words here to share more on this to you and the rest of the community about this; rather, I will respond directly to your question.
Because identifying and addressing difficulties and hurdles requires work and coordination among many stakeholder groups, the response below is entirely in my individual capacity.
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:
*Feeling of Urgency*: I believe we need to "generate a sense of urgency," which means motivating stakeholders to take appropriate independent action. UASG and ICANN's activities should be educational and proactive, advocating for the necessary activity to attain universal acceptance. The primary goal of ICANN will be to connect those who have impediments with those who can eliminate them, an action on this has already been initiated, and we will soon see some development on it.
*Clear Goal*: The requirement of the hour is that domain names in a TLD be used in applications independent of the written script, length, or newness of the TLD. Name registration must function, protocols must function, and services/applications affecting the user must function; function also in the sense that domain names and the identifiers constructed on them are usable in administratively permissible ways. This goal includes the usefulness of Internationalised email addresses, an action on this has already been initiated, and if you will see that today all IDN domains which we from NIXI provides are completely usable from day one as we are providing email with every IDN domain name and also other services required around that. Not just that we also have a dedicated UA desk to listen the concerns form the registrants and try to provide them support.
*UA's demand-side characteristics:* Universal Acceptance is a crucial technical prerequisite for an Internet that is truly multilingual and inclusive. It is also essential for realising the full potential of Internationalized Domain Names, Email Address Internationalization, and new generic Top-Level Domains. Application developers and service providers are delaying making their systems UA-ready due to the demand-side components of UA, which must be addressed. Governments and the technical community will be essential in creating demand. To get a sense of the importance of Universal Acceptance, consider India. It has one of the fastest growing internet user populations on the planet and provides an illuminating case study on adoptions of universal acceptance. Since 2014 NIXI is managing 22 IDNs of India and I am CEO of NIXI. I am pleased to share with you that as per the directives of government a committee was formed under my chairmanship here in India to prepare an India Roadmap on Universal Acceptance and Multilingual Internet, and that the Phase 1 report of that committee is now being under implementation in India. https://registry.in/system/files/ua-and-multilingual-internet-india.pdf
To summarise, I am confident that we will all recognise that, aside from the founding visionaries of the UASG, the current leadership of the UASG has carried forward the UA work from their successors in a significant way in the last four years, we have significant participation and contributions from the community in the universal acceptance steering group by nearly 700 volunteers, significant technological development has occurred in recent years, and there is still much to be done to achieve universal acceptance. Even the present leadership team came up with the idea for UA Day, which will be celebrated for the first time on March 28, 2023. Current UASG leadership has done a wonderful work to bring all the stakeholders together to celebrate UA day including all SO/AC of ICANN. With my experience as Communication Chair of UASG , we were successful to raise the awareness of importance that's why 42 countries are celebrating UA day on 28th March. We must continue the good work started by Ram Mohan & team and wings provided by Dr. Ajay Data and team.
With kind regards,
Anil Kumar Jain
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It's been rewarding and informative so far reading through the replies here. Mutegeki Cliff Agaba Digital Entrepreneur +256 701 800 679 +256 776 800 679 www.mutegekicliff.com [image: facebook icon] <http://www.facebook.com/mutegekicliffagaba> [image: linkedin icon] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mutegekicliff/> [image: instagram icon] <http://www.instagram.com/mutegekicliff> On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 13:06, Anil NIXI via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
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On 23-Mar-2023, at 2:55 PM, maximskvortsova@gmail.com wrote:
Jim, thank you for asking this question from Anil and Satish, who offered their names as suitable candidates to be the UASG's next chair.
Anil, I must say that your response is outstanding. It was well stated and explained, and it gives the impression that you are a very seasoned expert. The India Roadmap on Universal Acceptance and Multilingual Internet report that you shared in your response is truly remarkable, and it's an excellent document that can be shared globally, especially in GAG, so that many nations can follow suit or adopt.
Absolutely yes, it’s our clear expectations from new leadership that must continue the good work started by Ram Mohan & team and wings provided by Dr. Ajay Data and team.
You have won my support thanks to your wonderful answer, which firmly convinced me to do so. 😊
Best wishes
Maxim
On Thu, 23 Mar 2023 at 12:56, Anil Jain via UA-discuss < ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Jim and all UASG Community Members
Jim, thank you for your email and for putting this question.
Since you already mentioned that I am committed to Universal Acceptance and have a track record of working diligently to attain that objective, I will not place my words here to share more on this to you and the rest of the community about this; rather, I will respond directly to your question.
Because identifying and addressing difficulties and hurdles requires work and coordination among many stakeholder groups, the response below is entirely in my individual capacity.
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:
*Feeling of Urgency*: I believe we need to "generate a sense of urgency," which means motivating stakeholders to take appropriate independent action. UASG and ICANN's activities should be educational and proactive, advocating for the necessary activity to attain universal acceptance. The primary goal of ICANN will be to connect those who have impediments with those who can eliminate them, an action on this has already been initiated, and we will soon see some development on it.
*Clear Goal*: The requirement of the hour is that domain names in a TLD be used in applications independent of the written script, length, or newness of the TLD. Name registration must function, protocols must function, and services/applications affecting the user must function; function also in the sense that domain names and the identifiers constructed on them are usable in administratively permissible ways. This goal includes the usefulness of Internationalised email addresses, an action on this has already been initiated, and if you will see that today all IDN domains which we from NIXI provides are completely usable from day one as we are providing email with every IDN domain name and also other services required around that. Not just that we also have a dedicated UA desk to listen the concerns form the registrants and try to provide them support.
*UA's demand-side characteristics:* Universal Acceptance is a crucial technical prerequisite for an Internet that is truly multilingual and inclusive. It is also essential for realising the full potential of Internationalized Domain Names, Email Address Internationalization, and new generic Top-Level Domains. Application developers and service providers are delaying making their systems UA-ready due to the demand-side components of UA, which must be addressed. Governments and the technical community will be essential in creating demand. To get a sense of the importance of Universal Acceptance, consider India. It has one of the fastest growing internet user populations on the planet and provides an illuminating case study on adoptions of universal acceptance. Since 2014 NIXI is managing 22 IDNs of India and I am CEO of NIXI. I am pleased to share with you that as per the directives of government a committee was formed under my chairmanship here in India to prepare an India Roadmap on Universal Acceptance and Multilingual Internet, and that the Phase 1 report of that committee is now being under implementation in India. https://registry.in/system/files/ua-and-multilingual-internet-india.pdf
To summarise, I am confident that we will all recognise that, aside from the founding visionaries of the UASG, the current leadership of the UASG has carried forward the UA work from their successors in a significant way in the last four years, we have significant participation and contributions from the community in the universal acceptance steering group by nearly 700 volunteers, significant technological development has occurred in recent years, and there is still much to be done to achieve universal acceptance. Even the present leadership team came up with the idea for UA Day, which will be celebrated for the first time on March 28, 2023. Current UASG leadership has done a wonderful work to bring all the stakeholders together to celebrate UA day including all SO/AC of ICANN. With my experience as Communication Chair of UASG , we were successful to raise the awareness of importance that's why 42 countries are celebrating UA day on 28th March. We must continue the good work started by Ram Mohan & team and wings provided by Dr. Ajay Data and team.
With kind regards,
Anil Kumar Jain
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Thank you, Satish Babu and Anil Jain, for your thoughtful answers to the question. On 2023-03-22 20:45, Satish Babu wrote:
Here are my thoughts on the strategic obstacles that are inhibiting the goal of Universal Acceptance.… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
On 2023-03-23 00:25, Anil Jain via UA-discuss wrote:
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
I am glad to see replies from other people. I would be happy if this developed into a discussion among all of us. Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt, from Canada -- --Jim DeLaHunt, jdlh@jdlh.com http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/) multilingual websites consultant, Vancouver, Canada
I appreciate Anil and Satish's perspective and comments, and I concur with Jim that this conversation needs to continue. Also, I would like the UASG community to start a real discussion about having leaders from other regions rather than having the leadership of the UASG be dominated and influenced by people from a single region. As we are well aware, the first four years were spent solely in Latin America, followed by the following four years in India. As a result, all of the working group members and ambassadors were created accordingly. I think it's time, it's enough, and the UASG community needs some serious thinking and discussion about having seats set out for each of the five ICANN regions, much like we do in other working groups and nom com. We can't do that for the chair, but can certainly do it for vice chairs, working group chairs, vice chairs, ambassadors, etc. There should only be room for one vice chair, working group chair &vice chair from each region. Even if they nominate, they must do so for the one seat that ought to be set aside for that area. By doing so, we can encourage engagement from all of ICANN's regions and have representatives from those regions inspire and entice others in their area to work on the UA mission. Also, it is clear at the moment that several regions have nominated UA ambassadors just for prestige, particularly in India; they have not added anything to the UASG objective. There shouldn't be any permanent positions, and those who don't contribute should be asked to go so that there is room for others. I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but a change is necessary if we actually want the UASG to function well after eight years. If not, we run the risk of having either only Americans or only Indians for another four years. The most notable example is the fact that there are only two Indian candidates running for chair and that no one else even dared to enter the race. If this trend continues in all other posts, the UASG will be dominated by individuals from a certain region. Thank you very much! Wijayawardhana ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 at 15:22, Jim DeLaHunt via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Thank you, Satish Babu and Anil Jain, for your thoughtful answers to the question.
On 2023-03-22 20:45, Satish Babu wrote:
Here are my thoughts on the strategic obstacles that are inhibiting the goal of Universal Acceptance.… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
On 2023-03-23 00:25, Anil Jain via UA-discuss wrote:
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
I am glad to see replies from other people. I would be happy if this developed into a discussion among all of us.
Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt, from Canada
-- --Jim DeLaHunt, jdlh@jdlh.com http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/) multilingual websites consultant, Vancouver, Canada
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Well said Wijayawardhana, but I think India has played their parts in fostering the mission and vision of UA. Also, when the nomination was opened it was free for anyone to contest. We can't blame other regions for the inability of some regions who chose not to contest for roles. But I support your call that we should possibly look for vice chair from each region, if only people will still come forward for those roles. Nice weekend. Raymond Mamattah [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymond-selorm-mamattah-02637610/> [image: facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/selorm.mamattah> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/RMamattah> Accra, Ghana On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 6:28 PM Wijayawardhana via UA-discuss < ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
I appreciate Anil and Satish's perspective and comments, and I concur with Jim that this conversation needs to continue.
Also, I would like the UASG community to start a real discussion about having leaders from other regions rather than having the leadership of the UASG be dominated and influenced by people from a single region. As we are well aware, the first four years were spent solely in Latin America, followed by the following four years in India. As a result, all of the working group members and ambassadors were created accordingly. I think it's time, it's enough, and the UASG community needs some serious thinking and discussion about having seats set out for each of the five ICANN regions, much like we do in other working groups and nom com. We can't do that for the chair, but can certainly do it for vice chairs, working group chairs, vice chairs, ambassadors, etc. There should only be room for one vice chair, working group chair &vice chair from each region. Even if they nominate, they must do so for the one seat that ought to be set aside for that area. By doing so, we can encourage engagement from all of ICANN's regions and have representatives from those regions inspire and entice others in their area to work on the UA mission.
Also, it is clear at the moment that several regions have nominated UA ambassadors just for prestige, particularly in India; they have not added anything to the UASG objective. There shouldn't be any permanent positions, and those who don't contribute should be asked to go so that there is room for others.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but a change is necessary if we actually want the UASG to function well after eight years. If not, we run the risk of having either only Americans or only Indians for another four years. The most notable example is the fact that there are only two Indian candidates running for chair and that no one else even dared to enter the race. If this trend continues in all other posts, the UASG will be dominated by individuals from a certain region.
Thank you very much! Wijayawardhana
------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 at 15:22, Jim DeLaHunt via UA-discuss < ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Thank you, Satish Babu and Anil Jain, for your thoughtful answers to the question.
On 2023-03-22 20:45, Satish Babu wrote:
Here are my thoughts on the strategic obstacles that are inhibiting the goal of Universal Acceptance.… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
On 2023-03-23 00:25, Anil Jain via UA-discuss wrote:
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
I am glad to see replies from other people. I would be happy if this developed into a discussion among all of us.
Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt, from Canada
-- --Jim DeLaHunt, jdlh@jdlh.com http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/) multilingual websites consultant, Vancouver, Canada
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Wijayawardhana you really put it well, but I agree with Raymond that India has contributed to advancing the goals and objectives of UA. Everyone who wanted to volunteer their time for the UASG may stand and run for leadership positions; there were no restrictions. Indeed, we can’t hold other areas accountable for some regions' failure to compete for roles. Yet, I also support your recommendation that we take into account selecting a vice chair from each region. If more than one individual from that region runs for position or puts themselves up, then they must only compete against each other. This means that all three VC cannot be made from the same region. People from the five geographical regions that ICANN has divided into the three Vice Chair positions must be filled from them to bring true diversity and equality in decisions. Let's hope that first-nominees for the position come forward from all five ICANN regions and first nominate. Happy weekend. Pongpen Sutharoj Singapore ------- Original Message ------- On Saturday, March 25th, 2023 at 12:11 AM, Raymond Mamattah via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Well said Wijayawardhana, but I think India has played their parts in fostering the mission and vision of UA.
Also, when the nomination was opened it was free for anyone to contest. We can't blame other regions for the inability of some regions who chose not to contest for roles.
But I support your call that we should possibly look for vice chair from each region, if only people will still come forward for those roles.
Nice weekend.
Raymond Mamattah [linkedin](https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymond-selorm-mamattah-02637610/) [facebook](https://www.facebook.com/selorm.mamattah) [twitter](https://twitter.com/RMamattah) Accra, Ghana
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 6:28 PM Wijayawardhana via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
I appreciate Anil and Satish's perspective and comments, and I concur with Jim that this conversation needs to continue.
Also, I would like the UASG community to start a real discussion about having leaders from other regions rather than having the leadership of the UASG be dominated and influenced by people from a single region. As we are well aware, the first four years were spent solely in Latin America, followed by the following four years in India. As a result, all of the working group members and ambassadors were created accordingly. I think it's time, it's enough, and the UASG community needs some serious thinking and discussion about having seats set out for each of the five ICANN regions, much like we do in other working groups and nom com. We can't do that for the chair, but can certainly do it for vice chairs, working group chairs, vice chairs, ambassadors, etc. There should only be room for one vice chair, working group chair &vice chair from each region. Even if they nominate, they must do so for the one seat that ought to be set aside for that area. By doing so, we can encourage engagement from all of ICANN's regions and have representatives from those regions inspire and entice others in their area to work on the UA mission.
Also, it is clear at the moment that several regions have nominated UA ambassadors just for prestige, particularly in India; they have not added anything to the UASG objective. There shouldn't be any permanent positions, and those who don't contribute should be asked to go so that there is room for others.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but a change is necessary if we actually want the UASG to function well after eight years. If not, we run the risk of having either only Americans or only Indians for another four years. The most notable example is the fact that there are only two Indian candidates running for chair and that no one else even dared to enter the race. If this trend continues in all other posts, the UASG will be dominated by individuals from a certain region.
Thank you very much! Wijayawardhana
------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 at 15:22, Jim DeLaHunt via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Thank you, Satish Babu and Anil Jain, for your thoughtful answers to the question.
On 2023-03-22 20:45, Satish Babu wrote:
Here are my thoughts on the strategic obstacles that are inhibiting the goal of Universal Acceptance.… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
On 2023-03-23 00:25, Anil Jain via UA-discuss wrote:
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
I am glad to see replies from other people. I would be happy if this developed into a discussion among all of us.
Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt, from Canada
-- --Jim DeLaHunt, jdlh@jdlh.com http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/) multilingual websites consultant, Vancouver, Canada
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Well appreciated thoughts of Wijayawardhana and supported by Raymond. I think UASG is for all regions and contribution by all is appreciated. Best regards, Anil Kumar Jain CEO, NIXI From: ua-discuss@icann.org To: wijayawardhana@proton.me Cc: ua-discuss@icann.org, sbabu@ieee.org Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 12:11:34 AM Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Question for UASG Chair candidates: what are strategic obstacles blocking UA? Well said Wijayawardhana, but I think India has played their parts in fostering the mission and vision of UA. Also, when the nomination was opened it was free for anyone to contest. We can't blame other regions for the inability of some regions who chose not to contest for roles. But I support your call that we should possibly look for vice chair from each region, if only people will still come forward for those roles. Nice weekend. Raymond Mamattah [ https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymond-selorm-mamattah-02637610/ ] [ https://www.facebook.com/selorm.mamattah ] [ https://twitter.com/RMamattah ] Accra, Ghana On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 6:28 PM Wijayawardhana via UA-discuss < [ mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org | ua-discuss@icann.org ] > wrote: I appreciate Anil and Satish's perspective and comments, and I concur with Jim that this conversation needs to continue. Also, I would like the UASG community to start a real discussion about having leaders from other regions rather than having the leadership of the UASG be dominated and influenced by people from a single region. As we are well aware, the first four years were spent solely in Latin America, followed by the following four years in India. As a result, all of the working group members and ambassadors were created accordingly. I think it's time, it's enough, and the UASG community needs some serious thinking and discussion about having seats set out for each of the five ICANN regions, much like we do in other working groups and nom com. We can't do that for the chair, but can certainly do it for vice chairs, working group chairs, vice chairs, ambassadors, etc. There should only be room for one vice chair, working group chair &vice chair from each region. Even if they nominate, they must do so for the one seat that ought to be set aside for that area. By doing so, we can encourage engagement from all of ICANN's regions and have representatives from those regions inspire and entice others in their area to work on the UA mission. Also, it is clear at the moment that several regions have nominated UA ambassadors just for prestige, particularly in India; they have not added anything to the UASG objective. There shouldn't be any permanent positions, and those who don't contribute should be asked to go so that there is room for others. I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but a change is necessary if we actually want the UASG to function well after eight years. If not, we run the risk of having either only Americans or only Indians for another four years. The most notable example is the fact that there are only two Indian candidates running for chair and that no one else even dared to enter the race. If this trend continues in all other posts, the UASG will be dominated by individuals from a certain region. Thank you very much! Wijayawardhana ------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 at 15:22, Jim DeLaHunt via UA-discuss < [ mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org | ua-discuss@icann.org ] > wrote:
Thank you, Satish Babu and Anil Jain, for your thoughtful answers to the question.
On 2023-03-22 20:45, Satish Babu wrote:
Here are my thoughts on the strategic obstacles that are inhibiting the goal of Universal Acceptance.… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
On 2023-03-23 00:25, Anil Jain via UA-discuss wrote:
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
I am glad to see replies from other people. I would be happy if this developed into a discussion among all of us.
Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt, from Canada
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Thank you, Anil, for sharing your thoughts with other community members about giving everyone from all different regions an equal chance and space and not forming a cartel of same region members in UASG leadership. As we have restrictions for the same organisation, we must also have restrictions that for the same position, we will not select more than one person from that region. There should be no restrictions for contesting in the election or nominating, but voting should be such that one person only from that region is selected, and all nominated from the same region should be put in one zone and compete among themselves. We must ensure that we execute and properly implement this in the upcoming Vice Chair elections this time, and send a clear message of equality and engagement for all regions in UASG leadership. Azhar ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, March 26th, 2023 at 14:19, Anil Jain via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Well appreciated thoughts of Wijayawardhana and supported by Raymond. I think UASG is for all regions and contribution by all is appreciated.
Best regards,
Anil Kumar Jain CEO, NIXI
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From: ua-discuss@icann.org To: wijayawardhana@proton.me Cc: ua-discuss@icann.org, sbabu@ieee.org Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2023 12:11:34 AM Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Question for UASG Chair candidates: what are strategic obstacles blocking UA?
Well said Wijayawardhana, but I think India has played their parts in fostering the mission and vision of UA.
Also, when the nomination was opened it was free for anyone to contest. We can't blame other regions for the inability of some regions who chose not to contest for roles.
But I support your call that we should possibly look for vice chair from each region, if only people will still come forward for those roles.
Nice weekend.
Raymond Mamattah [linkedin](https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymond-selorm-mamattah-02637610/) [facebook](https://www.facebook.com/selorm.mamattah) [twitter](https://twitter.com/RMamattah) Accra, Ghana
On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 6:28 PM Wijayawardhana via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
I appreciate Anil and Satish's perspective and comments, and I concur with Jim that this conversation needs to continue.
Also, I would like the UASG community to start a real discussion about having leaders from other regions rather than having the leadership of the UASG be dominated and influenced by people from a single region. As we are well aware, the first four years were spent solely in Latin America, followed by the following four years in India. As a result, all of the working group members and ambassadors were created accordingly. I think it's time, it's enough, and the UASG community needs some serious thinking and discussion about having seats set out for each of the five ICANN regions, much like we do in other working groups and nom com. We can't do that for the chair, but can certainly do it for vice chairs, working group chairs, vice chairs, ambassadors, etc. There should only be room for one vice chair, working group chair &vice chair from each region. Even if they nominate, they must do so for the one seat that ought to be set aside for that area. By doing so, we can encourage engagement from all of ICANN's regions and have representatives from those regions inspire and entice others in their area to work on the UA mission.
Also, it is clear at the moment that several regions have nominated UA ambassadors just for prestige, particularly in India; they have not added anything to the UASG objective. There shouldn't be any permanent positions, and those who don't contribute should be asked to go so that there is room for others.
I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but a change is necessary if we actually want the UASG to function well after eight years. If not, we run the risk of having either only Americans or only Indians for another four years. The most notable example is the fact that there are only two Indian candidates running for chair and that no one else even dared to enter the race. If this trend continues in all other posts, the UASG will be dominated by individuals from a certain region.
Thank you very much! Wijayawardhana
------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 at 15:22, Jim DeLaHunt via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Thank you, Satish Babu and Anil Jain, for your thoughtful answers to the question.
On 2023-03-22 20:45, Satish Babu wrote:
Here are my thoughts on the strategic obstacles that are inhibiting the goal of Universal Acceptance.… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
On 2023-03-23 00:25, Anil Jain via UA-discuss wrote:
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
I am glad to see replies from other people. I would be happy if this developed into a discussion among all of us.
Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt, from Canada
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Hello, Wijayawardhana: Thank you for your fearless comments about how the UASG operates. This kind of discussion is important for any grass-roots group to function well. I have various responses to your various comments, which I will interleave below. On 2023-03-24 11:27, Wijayawardhana wrote:
…I would like the UASG community to start a real discussion about having leaders from other regions… …some serious thinking and discussion about having seats set out for each of the five ICANN regions, much like we do in other working groups and nom com. We can't do that for the chair, but can certainly do it for vice chairs, working group chairs, vice chairs, ambassadors, etc. There should only be room for one vice chair, working group chair &vice chair from each region. Even if they nominate, they must do so for the one seat that ought to be set aside for that area.…
I am not in favour of having UASG leaders selected on the basis of coming from regions. I am in favour of selecting the leaders who will be most effective is achieving UA, especially by activating the engagement of all the UASG participants. It seems to me that placing regions as the primary criterion leads to patronage, and placeholder do-nothings, rather than action. This especially applies to working group chairs. I participate actively in three working groups, and monitor the email list of a fourth. To my mind the working group chairs have the most crucial leadership roles in UASG. Their leadership determines how well new members get welcomed and encouraged to contribute more. They also guide the writing of Statements of Work. That in turn determines how effective our funding for vendors multiplies into impact on universal acceptance in the world. I really want each working group to have multiple strong leaders that care about that group's objectives and are skilled at encouraging efficient participation.
…By doing so, we can encourage engagement from all of ICANN's regions and have representatives from those regions inspire and entice others in their area to work on the UA mission.… This seems exactly backwards to me. We should not install leaders from a region first and encourage engagement in that region second. We should encourage engagement in a region first, identify the leaders that emerge from that engagement, and persuade a few of them to lead UASG. And I expect all leaders of UASG to be encouraging engagement in all regions of the world, not limiting themselves their own region.
…The most notable example is the fact that there are only two Indian candidates running for chair and that no one else even dared to enter the race.… The fact you state is correct, both candidates for chair were Indian. But what are you trying to say with, "dared to enter the race"? If you are saying that there were other willing candidates, and someone in UASG or ICANN prevented or threatened them into not running, then that is a scandal and it should be corrected. But if in fact the nominations were open, and nobody apart from these two people nominated themselves, then I think the word "dared" is misleading, and "bothered" would be more accurate.
…Also, it is clear at the moment that several regions have nominated UA ambassadors just for prestige, particularly in India; they have not added anything to the UASG objective. There shouldn't be any permanent positions, and those who don't contribute should be asked to go so that there is room for others.…
I do not follow the work of UA ambassadors closely. But I agree wholeheartedly that UA ambassadors who don't contribute should make way for others who will. All this by way of saying: if you want regional diversity of vice-chairs, the important next step is to have candidates. By my clock, there are just over 24 hours for people from the various regions of the world to step forward. If you know of someone you think would be a good UASG vice-chair, encourage them to nominate themselves! If you care enough that your region is under-represented, step forward! The deadline is 23:00 UTC, 31 March 2023. Something is better than nothing. This North American will cheer everyone who shows that leadership. Best regards, —Jim "80% of life is just showing up" DeLaHunt
…I'm sorry if I sound harsh, but a change is necessary if we actually want the UASG to function well after eight years. If not, we run the risk of having either only Americans or only Indians for another four years. The most notable example is the fact that there are only two Indian candidates running for chair and that no one else even dared to enter the race. If this trend continues in all other posts, the UASG will be dominated by individuals from a certain region.
Thank you very much! Wijayawardhana
------- Original Message ------- On Thursday, March 23rd, 2023 at 15:22, Jim DeLaHunt via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
Thank you, Satish Babu and Anil Jain, for your thoughtful answers to the question.
On 2023-03-22 20:45, Satish Babu wrote:
Here are my thoughts on the strategic obstacles that are inhibiting the goal of Universal Acceptance.… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
On 2023-03-23 00:25, Anil Jain via UA-discuss wrote:
According to me, the most significant strategic hurdles currently impeding Universal Acceptance are:… …[thoughtful answer omitted]…
I am glad to see replies from other people. I would be happy if this developed into a discussion among all of us.
Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt, from Canada
-- --Jim DeLaHunt, jdlh@jdlh.com http://blog.jdlh.com/ (http://jdlh.com/) multilingual websites consultant, Vancouver, Canada
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