Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教
The Catholic Church new IDN gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 are now live! http://nic.католик<http://nic.%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA> (Russian) http://nic.كاثوليك (Arabic) http://nic.天主教<http://nic.%E5%A4%A9%E4%B8%BB%E6%95%99> (Chinese) This could be big. Anyone have contacts in the Vatican? André Schappo
These are Cyrillic and are for the Russian orthodox catholic church, not the Roman catholic church ☺ I think the patriarch resides in Moscow ? From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:04 AM To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 The Catholic Church new IDN gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 are now live! http://nic.католик<http://nic.%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BA> (Russian) http://nic.كاثوليك (Arabic) http://nic.天主教<http://nic.%E5%A4%A9%E4%B8%BB%E6%95%99> (Chinese) This could be big. Anyone have contacts in the Vatican? André Schappo
Andre: All three TLDs were applied for by the Vatican (plus .catholic, of course). In the application process, they were assisted by AusRegistry (ARI), which is now part of Neustar. Andre: were there specific questions you wanted to pose to or about the experiences or experiences-to-be of these TLDs? Regards, Kurt Pritz --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 From: "Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss" <ua-discuss@icann.org> Date: 12/1/16 11:10 am To: "Andre Schappo" <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>, "ua-discuss" <UA-discuss@icann.org> These are Cyrillic and are for the Russian orthodox catholic church, not the Roman catholic church J I think the patriarch resides in Moscow ? From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:04 AM To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 The Catholic Church new IDN gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 are now live! http://nic.католик (Russian) http://nic.كاثوليك (Arabic) http://nic.天主教 (Chinese) This could be big. Anyone have contacts in the Vatican? André Schappo
Kurt Mainly, I am interested in updates on Vatican progress in rolling out .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 IDNs, especially the first batch. André Schappo On 1 Dec 2016, at 20:20, kurt@kjpritz.com<mailto:kurt@kjpritz.com> wrote: Andre: All three TLDs were applied for by the Vatican (plus .catholic, of course). In the application process, they were assisted by AusRegistry (ARI), which is now part of Neustar. Andre: were there specific questions you wanted to pose to or about the experiences or experiences-to-be of these TLDs? Regards, Kurt Pritz --------- Original Message --------- Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 From: "Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss" <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>> Date: 12/1/16 11:10 am To: "Andre Schappo" <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>>, "ua-discuss" <UA-discuss@icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org>> These are Cyrillic and are for the Russian orthodox catholic church, not the Roman catholic church ☺ I think the patriarch resides in Moscow ? From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:04 AM To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org>> Subject: [UA-discuss] Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 The Catholic Church new IDN gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 are now live! http://nic.католик<http://nic.%d0%ba%d0%b0%d1%82%d0%be%d0%bb%d0%b8%d0%ba/> (Russian) http://nic<http://nic/>.كاثوليك (Arabic) http://nic.天主教<http://nic.%e5%a4%a9%e4%b8%bb%e6%95%99/> (Chinese) This could be big. Anyone have contacts in the Vatican? André Schappo
Hello Mark, The Russian Orthodox Church and Vatican went different paths quite long ago (few hundred years), so Russian word for Catholic represents ideas of Vatican, and If you have not plans to insult representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate, do not congratulate them with the TLD. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID m. +7 916 6761580 skype oldfrogger Current UTC offset: +3.00 (Moscow)
On Dec 1, 2016, at 22:10, Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
These are Cyrillic and are for the Russian orthodox catholic church, not the Roman catholic church J I think the patriarch resides in Moscow ?
From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:04 AM To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教
The Catholic Church new IDN gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 are now live!
http://nic.католик (Russian) http://nic.كاثوليك (Arabic) http://nic.天主教 (Chinese)
This could be big. Anyone have contacts in the Vatican?
André Schappo
There are both a Russian Orthodox Church and a Russian Catholic Church; they are very different. I believe the American terms would be Eastern Orthodox (of which there are more than one) and Catholic. Do we know which this is for? The smaller keyboard and use of voice recognition may increase my incoherence. Apologies. Feel free to ask for clarification of my word choices. Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:41 AM -0800, "Maxim Alzoba" <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello Mark, The Russian Orthodox Church and Vatican went different paths quite long ago (few hundred years), so Russian word for Catholic represents ideas of Vatican, and If you have not plans to insult representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate, do not congratulate them with the TLD. Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID m. +7 916 6761580 skype oldfrogger Current UTC offset: +3.00 (Moscow)
On Dec 1, 2016, at 22:10, Mark Svancarek via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote:
These are Cyrillic and are for the Russian orthodox catholic church, not the Roman catholic church J I think the patriarch resides in Moscow ?
From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Andre Schappo Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:04 AM To: ua-discuss <UA-discuss@icann.org> Subject: [UA-discuss] Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教
The Catholic Church new IDN gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 are now live!
http://nic.католик (Russian) http://nic.كاثوليك (Arabic) http://nic.天主教 (Chinese)
This could be big. Anyone have contacts in the Vatican?
André Schappo
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:46:38PM +0000, Stuart Stuple wrote:
Do we know which this is for?
Surely this is the sort of thing registration data services are for? It's the Vatican. e.g. http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/xn--80aqecdr1a.html -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
Dear all, Ok, word Catholic on different script (not only Russian Cyrillic). You have Catholic religion in Cyrillic part of the world. Orthodox religion is majority, yes, but please - don't make the problem without one. Leave the religion out of these. Please. They have this idea, and noone stops orthodox church to open new g on Latin with word orthodox. What I can take from this is that Orthodox church can use Old Church Cyrillic in domain names, and we should stick to our mission and technology. Cheers Dusan ---- Andrew Sullivan je napisao/la ----
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:46:38PM +0000, Stuart Stuple wrote:
Do we know which this is for?
Surely this is the sort of thing registration data services are for?
It's the Vatican. e.g.
http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/xn--80aqecdr1a.html
-- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
Hi Dusan, I completely agree with you, just wanted to note that it is better to check with http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/catholic.html Technical Contact Piazza Pia 3 Città del Vaticano 00120 Holy See (vatican City State) Email: technical.catholictld@spc.va Voice: 00390669884002 Fax: 00390669885173 instead of going to Moscow for that ... Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID m. +7 916 6761580 skype oldfrogger Current UTC offset: +3.00 (Moscow)
On Dec 2, 2016, at 23:10, Dusan <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
Ok, word Catholic on different script (not only Russian Cyrillic). You have Catholic religion in Cyrillic part of the world. Orthodox religion is majority, yes, but please - don't make the problem without one. Leave the religion out of these. Please. They have this idea, and noone stops orthodox church to open new g on Latin with word orthodox.
What I can take from this is that Orthodox church can use Old Church Cyrillic in domain names, and we should stick to our mission and technology.
Cheers Dusan
---- Andrew Sullivan je napisao/la ----
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:46:38PM +0000, Stuart Stuple wrote:
Do we know which this is for?
Surely this is the sort of thing registration data services are for?
It's the Vatican. e.g.
http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/xn--80aqecdr1a.html
-- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
For some of us on this discussion, our mission is enabling global experience rather than solely technology. So understanding the different perspectives of the conversation is important. It is also relevant from my perspective to understand whether there are any restrictions on how a domain name would be assigned when two organizations have equal societal claim to it. For example, gov.us is constrained - I believe- on who can use it. -Stuart The smaller keyboard and use of voice recognition may increase my incoherence. Apologies. Feel free to ask for clarification of my word choices. Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 12:24 PM -0800, "Maxim Alzoba" <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Dusan, I completely agree with you, just wanted to note that it is better to check with https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org... Technical Contact Piazza Pia 3 Città del Vaticano 00120 Holy See (vatican City State) Email: technical.catholictld@spc.va Voice: 00390669884002 Fax: 00390669885173 instead of going to Moscow for that ... Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID m. +7 916 6761580 skype oldfrogger Current UTC offset: +3.00 (Moscow)
On Dec 2, 2016, at 23:10, Dusan <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
Ok, word Catholic on different script (not only Russian Cyrillic). You have Catholic religion in Cyrillic part of the world. Orthodox religion is majority, yes, but please - don't make the problem without one. Leave the religion out of these. Please. They have this idea, and noone stops orthodox church to open new g on Latin with word orthodox.
What I can take from this is that Orthodox church can use Old Church Cyrillic in domain names, and we should stick to our mission and technology.
Cheers Dusan
---- Andrew Sullivan je napisao/la ----
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:46:38PM +0000, Stuart Stuple wrote:
Do we know which this is for?
Surely this is the sort of thing registration data services are for?
It's the Vatican. e.g.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org...
-- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
---- Stuart Stuple je napisao/la ----
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For some of us on this discussion, our mission is enabling global experience rather than solely
technology. So understanding the different perspectives of the conversation is important.
It is also relevant from my perspective to understand whether there are any restrictions on how a domain name would be assigned when two organizations have equal societal claim to it. For example, gov.us is constrained - I believe- on who can use it.
-Stuart
The smaller keyboard and use of voice recognition may increase my incoherence. Apologies. Feel free to ask for clarification of my word choices.
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On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 12:24 PM -0800, "Maxim Alzoba" <m.alzoba@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dusan,
I completely agree with you, just wanted to note that it is better to check with
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org...
Technical Contact Piazza Pia 3 Città del Vaticano 00120 Holy See (vatican City State) Email: technical.catholictld@spc.va Voice: 00390669884002 Fax: 00390669885173
instead of going to Moscow for that ...
Sincerely Yours,
Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID
m. +7 916 6761580 skype oldfrogger
Current UTC offset: +3.00 (Moscow)
On Dec 2, 2016, at 23:10, Dusan <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
Ok, word Catholic on different script (not only Russian Cyrillic). You have Catholic religion in Cyrillic part of the world. Orthodox religion is majority, yes, but please - don't make the problem without one. Leave the religion out of these. Please. They have this idea, and noone stops orthodox church to open new g on Latin with word orthodox.
What I can take from this is that Orthodox church can use Old Church Cyrillic in domain names, and we should stick to our mission and technology.
Cheers Dusan
---- Andrew Sullivan je napisao/la ----
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:46:38PM +0000, Stuart Stuple wrote:
Do we know which this is for?
Surely this is the sort of thing registration data services are for?
It's the Vatican. e.g.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org...
-- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
All, We have an engagement manager that is assigned to the Vatican and are pursuing a case history with them. They have been very cooperative thus far including sending people from the Vatican for their signing ceremony and participating on a panel. I suggest if you have specific questions you need answer that we work with ICANN engagement manner on this as he’ll know the best contacts. G Gwen Carlson ICANN/GDD Sr. Communications Director Mobile: +1 619 322 3188 Work: +1 310 578 8653 From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Dusan Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 1:36 PM To: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com>; Stuart Stuple <stuartst@exchange.microsoft.com> Cc: ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: [UA-discuss] ODG: Re: ODG: Re: Catholic Church new gTLDs .католик .كاثوليك .天主教 ---- Stuart Stuple je napisao/la ---- For some of us on this discussion, our mission is enabling global experience rather than solely technology. So understanding the different perspectives of the conversation is important. It is also relevant from my perspective to understand whether there are any restrictions on how a domain name would be assigned when two organizations have equal societal claim to it. For example, gov.us is constrained - I believe- on who can use it. -Stuart The smaller keyboard and use of voice recognition may increase my incoherence. Apologies. Feel free to ask for clarification of my word choices. Get Outlook<https://aka.ms/qtex0l> for iOS On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 12:24 PM -0800, "Maxim Alzoba" <m.alzoba@gmail.com<mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Dusan, I completely agree with you, just wanted to note that it is better to check with https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org... Technical Contact Piazza Pia 3 Città del Vaticano 00120 Holy See (vatican City State) Email: technical.catholictld@spc.va<mailto:technical.catholictld@spc.va> Voice: 00390669884002 Fax: 00390669885173 instead of going to Moscow for that ... Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID m. +7 916 6761580 skype oldfrogger Current UTC offset: +3.00 (Moscow)
On Dec 2, 2016, at 23:10, Dusan <dusan@dukes.in.rs<mailto:dusan@dukes.in.rs>> wrote:
Dear all,
Ok, word Catholic on different script (not only Russian Cyrillic). You have Catholic religion in Cyrillic part of the world. Orthodox religion is majority, yes, but please - don't make the problem without one. Leave the religion out of these. Please. They have this idea, and noone stops orthodox church to open new g on Latin with word orthodox.
What I can take from this is that Orthodox church can use Old Church Cyrillic in domain names, and we should stick to our mission and technology.
Cheers Dusan
---- Andrew Sullivan je napisao/la ----
On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 07:46:38PM +0000, Stuart Stuple wrote:
Do we know which this is for?
Surely this is the sort of thing registration data services are for?
It's the Vatican. e.g.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iana.org...
-- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>
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