+1 -----Original Message----- From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Richard Merdinger Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:23 AM To: Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org>; Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com>; ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UA and phishiness Thanks Don; was about to reply similarly (but without all the detail). --Rich Richard Merdinger VP, Domains rmerdinger@godaddy.com On 4/26/18, 1:22 PM, "Don Hollander" <don.hollander@icann.org> wrote: We see the anti-abuse community as part of our target audience 1) They should be aware of all the TLDs, the dynamic nature of the root zone population, and shouldn't be blocking an entire TLD because their systems are not aware of them. 2) If they block an entire TLD because it is a 'shady' TLD, that's NOT a UA Issue. 3) The bulk mail operators in the Anti-Abuse community should be aware of EAI Addresses. Based on a M3WAAG meeting earlier this year, I'm not convinced that's the case. To start addressing this, John Levine will be running a session at the M3WAAG meeting in Munich in June. WE've had discussion about this during our face-to-face meeting in Seattle last year and again on a subsequent conference call. Our role is not to advocate for TLDs to not be blocked at the top level, but to ensure that those blocking entire TLDs are doing so consciously. D -----Original Message----- From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan Sent: Friday, 27 April 2018 6:09 AM To: Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger@godaddy.com>; ua-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] UA and phishiness Well, to be clear, the point of the discussion I'm in is around automatic blacklisting of everything in a "shady" TLD. -- Please excuse my clumbsy thums ---------- On April 26, 2018 11:36:44 Richard Merdinger <rmerdinger@godaddy.com> wrote: > Andrew, > I get the connection, but I think that this is adjacent to our remit > as opposed to part of it. > > Other thoughts on this? > > Richard Merdinger > VP, Domains > rmerdinger@godaddy.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: UA-discuss [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Sullivan > Sent: April 26, 2018 12:34 PM > To: ua-discuss@icann.org > Subject: [UA-discuss] UA and phishiness > > Hi, > > I'm in a meeting about the web PKI and there's a discussion about how > poor the anti-abuse stance is of some new TLDs. Does UASG have a view > about this? Should it? > > A > > -- > Please excuse my clumbsy thums